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PSX Extreme: SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs Review

PSX Extreme writes: "Admittedly, I have never been a SOCOM fan, primarily because I’ve never been an avid online player. But I was excited to give SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs a try, primarily because it featured a full single-player campaign, one that even sports a bit of stealth. Of course, the game is still designed with multiplayer as the focus and for that reason, this game is best experienced with others; just make sure you have a headset so as to take advantage of the inherent strategy and tactics. On the one hand, the campaign doesn’t feel tacked on and the multiplayer is oodles of fun. On the other hand, the poor AI, iffy control in regards to commands, and uninspired level design drops the production down a few notches".

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MysticStrummer4777d ago (Edited 4777d ago )

It's crazy how some of these Socom reviews contradict each other. Here's another one that mentions poor AI. G4TV's review said it was some of the best AI they'd ever seen. This generation has been really weird, journalism wise. Oh well, my favorite online shooter by far of this generation has been MAG, made by these same people, and it certainly didn't get glowing reviews. The videos I've seen for Socom 4 and the fun I had with the beta are enough for me to be still excited.

MmaFan-Qc4777d ago (Edited 4777d ago )

Socom is all about the MP, the game shouldnt be reviewed with the SP in mind, the SP is only a small bonus, 99%of the reviews simply talk about the SP, while they skip the MP part since the real players arent playing the game yet, being stuck with noobish reviewers online would suck i guess.

cant wait to play with REAL players.

MidnytRain4776d ago

I agree, the recent Call of Duty campaigns have been skimpy, nonsensical, and filled in with explosions. No one is expecting the large majority of their enjoyment to come out of the campaign, but the multiplayer instead. I'm looking forward to the story mode, but I think many reviewers may be forgetting that SOCOM 4 is above anything a multiplayer game, so docking so many points over a single-player mode that they didn't like is going too far.

showtimefolks4777d ago

and both socom game one done by slant6 and other by zipper have be average

this game should have been given till q1 2012 and we could have had a master piece

Firstkn1ghT4777d ago

Socom is arguably Sony's Halo at least in the fanbase department. It has a huge following. It's surprising not seeing Sony putting more effort in this game. The amount of lag and horrible hit detection in the first few SOCOMS was notorious. The "pros" used these flaws to their advantage, like hiding inside boulders being able to shoot but not being able to get hit. Sony missed a giant opportunity on making SOCOM a next gen giant.

dougr4777d ago

Well, you sure don't know anything about the Playstation 2 Socoms, thanks for clearing that up.

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Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises

Alex S. from Link-Cable writes: "Gaming’s past is full of wonderful memories, many of which include some of our favorite moments in all of video games and helped shape our current gaming habits. And, thanks to the awesomeness that is the PlayStation, many of these memories can be found in Sony’s franchises. But what happens when a great franchise or IP just disappears? While sometimes its just forgotten, never to be heard from again that’s not something that we here at Link-Cable can bear the thought of. So for this week’s Top 10 we are taking a look at the Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises and also crossing our fingers that someone with the power to bring these back just happens to stumble across this list."

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PhoenixUp2283d ago

Don’t forget Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, Legend of Dragoon, Freedom Wars, Invisimals, Lemmings, Modnation Racers, Pursuit Force, Resistance, Siren, Soul Sacrifice, Mark of Kri, & Wild Arms

darthv722282d ago

To be fair, many of those are not forgotten. They just ran their course while others were not given the respect they deserved to garner a continuation. Games that are one-offs probably had no intention of making them into series but I do wish they would rethink that. Some deserve to be given a follow-up.

UltraNova2282d ago

Agreed. Maybe Sony can contract Bluepoint to remaster Heavenly Sword, see people's reaction to the game and decide wether to give the go for a sequel.

Also Lair can be remastered es as a PSVR game and take it from there.

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Michiel19892282d ago (Edited 2282d ago )

Legacy of Kain would fit right in there, although sony has no rights to that IP as far as I'm aware.

Ah later instalments were not sony exclusive, so dont mind me sir :p

Xenophon_York2282d ago

Remaking the very first Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen would be amazing.

MWH2282d ago (Edited 2282d ago )

Maybe one day the coin will land on its edge.

Michiel19892282d ago

I'd prefer Soul Reaver but Blood Omen would do just fine as well

Godmars2902282d ago

To be fair, Wild Arms did run its course, was effectively run into the ground, going by example of last entry using characters from all games. Being an STG title on the PSP.

Could always revive the western/steampunk setting.

_-EDMIX-_2282d ago

I know right! I'm still waiting for someone at Sony to make the Getaway 3 lol

I always wondered what the PlayStation 3 version was going to be like.

SuperSonic912282d ago

CTR Remake please. Best kart racer ever made by Naughty Dog

Rangerman12082281d ago

Finally someone mentioned Soul Sacrifice, Siren, Legend of Dragoon, and Freedom Wars. Those games are in desperate of a new installment. Especially with Folkore.

Sitdown2281d ago

Lemmings is a PlayStation franchise? I would say Battle Arena Toshinden.

frostypants2281d ago

Lemmings was a franchise waaaaay before even the PS1 saw the light of day. Nobody's forgotten it.

thisismyaccount2281d ago

and ALUNDRA .. dunno if it´s a Sony IP or not.

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GBG_Jason2282d ago

I'm not sure single games would be considered franchises. If you want to say Heavenly Sword is one, I'd also put Enslaved on the list. Loco Roco is in the same boat as Patapon. But things like Tomba are certainly missed.

GBG_Jason2282d ago

Never mind me, you are absolutely correct.

Kleptic2282d ago

yeah, it was the Ninja Theory (same dev as HS), just not a ps3 exclusive

Michiel19892282d ago

It was a good game though, I wouldnt mind seeing a sequel at some point

Yui_Suzumiya2282d ago

There was going to be a sequel to Enslaved. Unfortunately it never left the drawing board. Hopefully someday it will be realized.

jznrpg2282d ago

Enslaved was super undervalued, loved that game

UltraNova2281d ago

....and in dire need of a Remaster!

FallenAngel19842282d ago

How can you all something a franchise if it only has one installment?

At that point it’s just an IP. You can only call it a franchise when there’s multiple installments.

SamPao2282d ago

you should look up the definition of a franchise.
If there is more than just a game, say merchandise its already a franchise.

_-EDMIX-_2282d ago

I understand what the Fallen is trying to say, simply saying how could you suggest a game with only one installment as a franchise in regards to a series in terms of multiple games.

Even though, yes franchise can be considered what you stated in this context that's not really what's being talked about.

SamPao2281d ago

yet still its what he was talking about. Maybe nexttime you should say "series"...

SurgicalMenace2282d ago

Legend of Dragoon? Sly Cooper?

Araragifeels 2282d ago

Sly Cooper is not forgotten. They even making a TV show, I am hoping they Remake the first 3 games from scratch like Ratchet & Clank did.

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Araragifeels 2282d ago

@DJK1NG_Gaming I didn't mention the movie because probably got cancelled since Ratchet & Clank movie flop and Sony might not take another chance but Sly Cooper is having it own TV series.

FallenAngel19842282d ago

Sly Cooper is getting a television series. Sony hasn’t forgotten about it

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Games to Play if You Miss SOCOM

Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
new SOCOM game.

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LOOK_AT_THIS_I2459d ago

Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.

With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.

ONESHOTV22459d ago

the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC

USMC_POLICE2459d ago

You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour

Majin-vegeta2459d ago

Army training grounds its F2P.

ion6662459d ago

Insurgency Socom mod perfect adaption. Play it

C-H-E-F2458d ago

RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.

Also, in response to @lookatthisi

They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I2458d ago

No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.

FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.

(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)

C-H-E-F2458d ago

Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.

I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.

InTheZoneAC2457d ago

A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.

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Dear Sony – It’s time to revive SOCOM

Sean @ FG: "Dear Sony, We need to talk about SOCOM."

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Neonridr2498d ago

Aim Controller support too, heck just throw in VR while we are at it.

Neonridr2498d ago

to which one? You wouldn't like to be able to use the aim controller for socom? Using a dual shock is more believable?

And why can't VR be an option? I never said to make the game VR exclusive did I?

Silly gameAr2498d ago

No to both. If Socom comes back it needs to come back in all of it's old school glory.

Neonridr2498d ago

@Silly gameAr - so not giving people options is the way to go? I mean if you are so against the aim controller couldn't you just use a dual shock instead? Maybe I am asking too much to have choices to suit different play styles.

Kribwalker2498d ago

I agree liquid. Make it like old school socom. I wanna hide claymores in the grass again 😎

Silly gameAr2498d ago

It's good to have options, but those options just wouldn't suit a game like Socom.

XisThatKid2498d ago

Bring MAG back instead. Zippers last successful game

JackBNimble2498d ago

Not this shit again... you socom fans need to move on

morganfell2498d ago

I want the biggest challenge again - win Enowapi as a SEAL in Breach Mode.

Liqu1d2498d ago

@Neonridr No to both.

Socom 4 allowed you to use the PS Move, it was trash and a waste of development time. They could do a VR firing range or something and I'm sure it would be alright, but if Socom is going to return then they need to stick to basics and provide what fans of the franchise liked. Pointless additions like aim controller and VR support will only bloat development costs and make a revival more risky.

Skull5212498d ago

SOCOM was easily the best franchise on PlayStation, it is sad what has happened to it. I do however have a bad taste in my mouth after SOCOM 4 coming out then PSN immediately hacked and offline for a month... Still to this day I do not trust Sony with my credit card information.

sonarus2498d ago

Big yes to socom will pass on the vr tho

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USMC_POLICE2498d ago

They did that with move on ps3, it was absolutely horrible. Then again all of socom 4 was a train wreck.

Neonridr2498d ago

meh, would never hurt to give options. Move on PS3 was absolutely horrible because the camera sucked real bad. Fairpoint accuracy with the Aim Controller is picked up quite well.

Der_Kommandant2498d ago

No thanks, SOCOM 4 with move was the worst thing ever. The game was bad and that thing made it even worse.

SOCOM Confrontation was decent though.

XisThatKid2498d ago

Wasn't made by zipper it was a glitch mess and people hated on it until people didn't know what they had until it was gone. Then we got SOCOM 4. :(

madforaday2498d ago

Socom Confrontation was GREAT 6 months after the release of the game. Also, once they added the stupid Tilly that was when I quit. I tend to not complain about guns but the Tilly was a sniper rifle/shotgun. That gun was more broken than the IW-80 in Socom 2.

Liqu1d2498d ago

@madforaday That's when I quit as well. Pretty much everyone was using Tilly.

Movefasta19932498d ago

Confrontation was my first socom game and I loved it dearly...I would love a remaster of that if Sony aren't that bothered

madforaday2498d ago

@Liqu1d

Yeah, it was awful I remember in Blizzard you will have people camping with the Tilly and rushing with the TIlly, it was soo annoying.

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madforaday2498d ago

That is THE worst idea for a Socom type game. You can have the option of course, but no one will use it because a controller will take you down so easily.

WeAreLegion2498d ago

No, it won't. Even on Socom 4, the Move guys were owning the controller guys. It's much faster. Why would you think a controller is faster?

madforaday2498d ago

@WeAreLegion

HAHAH I really hope you are kidding I am sure the 20 people who were using it were owning with it lol ;)

madforaday2498d ago

Also, On VR I don't know how many 3rd person view games there are but I think that would be weird in VR having a guy right in front of you. If you make it 1st person you would be at an unfair advantage compared to the people who aren't.

WeAreLegion2498d ago

3rd person works really well in VR. Maybe games have it.

Movefasta19932498d ago

Socom is for the hardcore/competitive gamer,focus on making a great mp game first then add the bullshit for people who want it

LP-Eleven2498d ago

Yeah.....no.

OT: I'd be all for it! SOCOM is still one of those franchises that a "hidden gem" feel to it!

XanderZane2498d ago

Meh..
Dear Sony, it's time to revive Syphon Filter.

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Kribwalker2498d ago

One of my favourite games on the ps2. Socom 1/2 got a lot of playtime by me. This one, madden football and ssx3 were my first foray into online console gaming

81BX2498d ago

No sh!t. I was just looking up socom 4 videos last night lol

hit173882498d ago

Yes, slant six did better than them last time. Socom 4 was horrible. confrontation was the last good socom. Well after patches .

Sunny_D2498d ago

I remember that... the load times were haunting.

SolidDuck2498d ago

Not just normal patches. Like a year and half worth of patches. After that it was pretty good.

XisThatKid2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

Lol where you there during beta it was absolutely hilarious. GOD I miss that game.....i miss MAG too

81BX2498d ago

Confrontation had the best sounds in any shooter at the time.

luis_spartano2498d ago

Slant Six was shut down a while ago.

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SquidBuck2498d ago

Let's all write Sony that we want Mag 2! Let's make it happen!!! Come on people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hit173882498d ago

Yes to this. It's time look how well battlegrounds is doing. 3rd person shooters are doing a comeback and it's the only game PS4 is missing to make my dream list complete since monster Hunter already is coming and we have crash and a few other classics coming back.

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