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Destructoid Review: SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs

SOCOM: Confrontation caused quite a stir due to its mixed reviews. Many praised the potential it had, but lamented its notorious network problems and glitches. Now that series creator Zipper Interactive is back in the driving seat, SOCOM has a chance at some crucial redemption.

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LOGICWINS4854d ago

Uh oh indeed. People aren't going to like this.

solideagle14854d ago

can we say SOCOM has no chance now to be franchise? zipper should have made MAG 2 with story?

thanks

Imtey4854d ago

Jim Sterling at it again!

MAJ0R4854d ago

hmm this game may be bad but I would say that is an unfair score

JohnnyMann4204854d ago

People have to remember that 3/10 is a horrible game, whether you like Jim Sterling or not.

Does this game deserve more than a 3/10?

Would you rate this a 3/10 if you were a reviewer?

I am sorry I don't really like Socom and I played the beta and to be honest a 3/10 score is just completely rediculous. Even I would give this game nothing less than a 6 and 6 is NOT a good score.

Jim Sterling is an idiot that likes rating things he doesn't like as low as possible.

Talk about throwing your weight around (pun intended)

SageHonor4854d ago

Holy Crap!!. I dont ever look at destructoid but 3/10 seems a little too harsh. This looks like one of those games with some serious mixed opinions.. The highest score ive seen so far is 8.5 and this is the lowes

So far all of the scores ive seen are 3, 7.9, 8.5, 8.5 and a 6...

Lets see what IGN and Gamepot says

Ju4854d ago (Edited 4854d ago )

Sterling is bi-polar. :) LOL KZ3 10/10, Socom4 3/10. Not brave enough to give it a 1. Just for the controversy. That would imply at least some joke factor.

captain-obvious4854d ago

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

oh boy the shit just hit the fan

rockleex4854d ago (Edited 4854d ago )

He's a bi-polar attention seeking reviewer with a holier-than-thou act.

Just move along.

captain-obvious4854d ago

you know what
i want this to get bigger

i hope Sony black list destructoid so we could have some drama fun internet thingy lol

baodeus4854d ago

Sony is not affiliated w/ any reviewer sites right, so does it matter if Sony black listed destructoid? What is that gonna do?

ComboBreaker4854d ago

Knowing Destructoid, I am pretty sure it's just a joke article.

Pixel_Pusher4854d ago

"In my short time with the online (and it was short, because I couldn't keep playing what was, essentially, unplayable), I saw grenades hovering in mid-air, never moving or activating. I saw bodies floating five feet off the ground. I saw people dying from explosions that didn't actually happen. I've seen disconnections and game kicks of every description."

Wow this guy is completely full of shit. Thank god Sony released the beta to all otherwise this scumbag review might been taken seriously.

HolyOrangeCows4854d ago

An exceptional franchise conforms to the Call of Duty crowd and gets a 3/10, as opposed to all of the new COD rip offs getting 7/8s and COD games getting 9s.

Oh YEEEAAAH, that's fair.
/s

Commander_TK4854d ago

Holy shit.

I would've understood a 6 or 7, but 3 is going too far.

Pixel_Pusher4854d ago

http://www.computerandvideo...

"It's tough to draw too many definitive conclusions while a game's still in beta as there's still some final tweaking , balancing and finessing to be done. However, subjective as these things are, SOCOM 4's online games are smooth, lag-free with plenty of players ready to do battle in a pleasingly slick experience that's every bit as compelling as the best of the FPS breed. With a wealth of game modes and styles, a decent progression system, plenty of rewards and perks to choose from and some satisfyingly hearty tactical shooting action, there's every sign that SOCOM 4 will not only live up to, but exceed the series' finest multiplayer traditions."

badz1494854d ago

Crazy Jim Sterling is at it again! if he's reviewing the game for himself, better don't post the score at all because 3/10 for SOCOM is showing that he's a TROLL! just like how he gave 10/10 as opposed to the average 6/10 to Deadly Premonition and I realized that he was always a TROLL!

kancerkid4854d ago

Hi, I am a Sony fanboy. Instead of arguing against the points the reviewer brought up in his written piece, I will ignore every single word written and instead focus on the score at the end and comment on how ludicrous the score is, even though I most likely did not even play the game.

I also ignore the fact that reviews are opinions, because, you know, sometimes people hate even the best games ever released.

Biggest4854d ago

Hi! I'm a 360 fanboy. Instead of arguing against the points the posters brought up in their comments, I will ignore every single word written and instead focus on something totally different, even though I most likely did not even play the game.

Pixel_Pusher spelled it out for you with quotes and links. Please continue to ignore it. . . But go elsewhere to do so.

Anon19744853d ago

It's to the point now when I see medium to high reviews and then a 2 or a 3 I ask myself "was it Jim Sterling"? And it is, again.

Destructoid again continues it's descent into mediocrity. First he's mad because the game needs to load and for some reason splash screens, which every freaking game has, is somehow an annoyance that warrants a lower score now. Then he bitches that the story is generic, with a bunch of angry guys running around with guns. This is a shooter, right?

The Gameplay he claims is "standard". So tell me, dear Jim, does that mean all shooters should get a 3 if that's the "standard"? Then he bitches about lag as if Socom 4 is the first game to suffer from laggy servers right out of the gate. My experience has been that Call of Duty games you might as well not even pop in for the first 2 months for online play.

Then he claims the online is actually fairly decent. Bi-polar much?

Perhaps in the future you might consider taking your meds before reviewing games. Either that or leave it to the reviewers that don't have a history of assigning good games low scores for hits.

roguewarrior4853d ago

Played the PSN beta for 5 hours straight full 32 player suppression. No lag, no gliches( never fell through floor, never saw grenades float in air, ect. guess i got real lucky,

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solideagle14854d ago

can we say SOCOM has no chance now to be franchise? zipper should have made MAG 2 with story?

thanks

Danielmccue4854d ago

I think its more of a third person MAG than SOCOM judging from the beta.

gamerzBEreal174854d ago

did u play it with move? cuz thats probably why it felt like MAG to u without it it doesnt

thief4854d ago

I think we can say Jim Sterling has no chance of being taken seiously as a reviewer.

Reviews be damned, to me this game is a must-buy because of two reasons: to experience the famed socom multiplayer community (never played the PS2 socoms) and enjoy some unique team-based gameplay, and also to enjoy a game that shares some of the gameplay that MAG has, any game that comes from the developers of MAG has to rock.

Ju4854d ago

It is no MAG. I don't know. People comparing that with MAG haven't played either. The art style resembles to MAG somewhat but is much more improved in Socom4. The playstyle is completely different; 3rd and 1st person just play differently all together. Tactics is different. Maybe hit response is the only one which might be similar (1-2-3 shot kills).

SageHonor4854d ago

Socom is already a franchise

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Noble Spartan4854d ago

well pretty much absolute just like MAG.

nolifeking4854d ago

I keep hearing people saying this, but
i remember people saying MAG was a first person Socom. So if Mag was Socom in first person and S4 is Mag in third person, don't we hava a paradox or something?

chidori6664854d ago (Edited 4854d ago )

*inba Jim Sterling generic coments of fanboys*

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saladthieves4854d ago (Edited 4854d ago )

You have to remember: there are people out there who will not like this game or think that it is not good enough. I'm loving the beta. You can be sure that I'll get the game once it gets out. 3/10 is a really low score man.

chase1674854d ago

this site needs the hits
ign is killing them

chase1674854d ago

i think its time to hire a younger guy to do these reviews
this guy must be too old or caught his boyfriend with another guy because his is out of touch with games

DrFUD4854d ago

"People have to remember that 3/10 is a horrible game, whether you like Jim Sterling or not. "

Unless you're in the know and search for SOCOM reviews online.
Destructoid shows up on page 28 of a game review search right.
and I don't care if you use Destructoid's own search it's still on page 33 of the results.
Destructoids review means nothing

Joni-Ice4854d ago (Edited 4854d ago )

I think Zipper deserves every score they receive. They did not stay true to the past Socom formula and because of it, will frustrate a lot of fans that enjoyed past Socoms for what it was. I think if this game was called something else people perception of the game would have been different but when its the 4th game of the series and Zipper decides to change EVERYTHING that made past games amazing, wont sit well with the fans. Its not a bad game, its just not what people expected Socom 4 to be. It went in the opposite direction. Imagine when Modern Warfare 3 releases and it plays like Socom Confrontation. Everything that made Modern Warfare awesome in the past was remove, all the COD fans would be bitching that its not what they are use to. Thats Socom 4.

arika4854d ago

it must be a really late april fools day joke. it's really funny though...lol!

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redwolf4854d ago

this review is just a joke, although the game may be a little outdates it doesn't make it as bad game as the auther makes out it to be

Ju4854d ago

How is the game outdated? Because it isn't the usual generic 1st person diet we are usually getting these days? Yeah, if this defines what is modern these days, yep, than it's outdated. Glad it is, in that case.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4854d ago

Haha, lol.

Let me guess...Jim Sterling.

GameTavern4854d ago

I don't necessarily disagree with the review, but I have a blanket dislike of Jim Sterling's reviews in general.

Danielmccue4854d ago

n my short time with the online (and it was short, because I couldn't keep playing what was, essentially, unplayable), I saw grenades hovering in mid-air, never moving or activating. I saw bodies floating five feet off the ground. I saw people dying from explosions that didn't actually happen. I've seen disconnections and game kicks of every description. In short, I've seen every major problem an online game could have, all magnified to absurd levels. "

WOW i didn't experience any of this at all, he must have a horrid internet connection.

MysticStrummer4854d ago

Yeah my time with the beta has seen few glitches. It's been more like a final release than a beta in every way. Sadly, I expect this from this generation's "journalists", especially concerning a PS3 exclusive. Initial reviews for Warhawk, MAG, and GT5 all contained BS of the highest order. Add Socom 4 to that list. I can't wait for the 19th.

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SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4 and MAG servers shutting down in January 2014

Original-Gamer.com: "Sony has decided to shutdown the servers for SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4, and MAG in January 2014. SOCOM 4 and MAG were developed by Zipper Interactive while SOCOM Confrontation was developed by Slant Six Games."

Abash4028d ago

Very sad to hear, hopefully Sony continues SOCOM and MAG on PS4

BiggCMan4028d ago

MAG is not even too old yet, this doesn't make any sense. It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans, even one of my friends recently got back into it. Hell even Confrontation has a pretty decent sized dedicated player base, I think only 4 is pretty deserted.

This really makes no sense, the games aren't old. They better be making new games in the future at least.

HammadTheBeast4028d ago

Come on now, MAG's pretty old, their new console is coming out, and there's only about 5000 individual players coming on every month, if that.

It's run its course, a fantastic game while it lasted. Hopefully, we can get a few massive battles in before the servers close, knowing the community, I expect it.

Also, a lot of MAG is on Dust 514 now, which isn't amazing, but is still alright.

kwyjibo4028d ago

It makes sense.

MAG is no longer selling, so Sony is making no money from it. In fact, it's costing them money to keep it alive.

Maybe with PS4 pay-for-online and microtransactions (read: ongoing support), you'll get a better service.

decrypt4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

@HammadTheBeast

"Come on now, MAG's pretty old"

No it isnt, you want really old check out:

Warcraft 3, Starcraft 1, Counter strike. Then tell me why those games are still running?

Sony closing servers to older games is just a tactic to force users on board their next console.

Its the nature of console gaming, too controlled with console gamers having little to no rights at all. Hell if Sony closes PS3 online services after PS4 launch there is nothing console gamers can do about it.

JAMurida4028d ago

MAG is barely alive now these days. Domination is only playable early AM hours (CST) when the JP players get on and that only last a few hours. Only thing going on is Sabo or Suppression.

Lucky to get an Interdiction or Acquisition going.

Utalkin2me4028d ago

Kind of ironic i recently put mag back in and got all the updates and restored all my skill points. And OMG i could not kill anybody for nothing, it was quite weird. I used to be beast at that game and i went negative for a few games before finally i quit. Felt like i was doing worse for the team then helping.

It wasn't very populated then, but hate to hear that.

BattleAxe4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

H-Hour is the new Socom. You can still support the development studio by way of Paypal, and you still get access to all of the Kickstarter rewards, but only until the end of the month.

http://sofstudios.com/index...

H-Hour is set to come out on PS4 and PC.

Corpser4028d ago

@all

MAG was released in 2010, just 3 years ago! You're telling me I should expect online servers to be around for just 3 years?

GasTankKiller4027d ago (Edited 4027d ago )

"It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans."

You only see one side of this. Sony sees the stats of how many players are playing on average. No reason to waste server power for a handle full of people. Yes that handle full could be a few thousand but still.

From what I remember during MAGs development. Zipper was given a blank check and setup a server farm for MAG.

No reason to let all those servers go to waste. They will most likely use them for the PS4.

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GameCents4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

Where's the outrage? They effectively saying that you've been renting MAG all this time. Online only games shouldn't have their servers shut so soon.

HammadTheBeast4028d ago

There's about 200 people on at any time now.... and most from the free demo.

Corpser4028d ago

^^

So? You're perfectly fine an online-only game that people are still playing will be shut down

JAMurida4028d ago

#Corpser

Yes there is a community, but a very small one. It's the same case with White Knight Chronicles 1/2. Both MAG and WKC I've played heavy enough to say they had a very small community that most likely didn't warrant Sony paying the money to keep the servers going for any longer. It sucks, but it happens when it's a case like this.

If anything, I'm more surprised that MAG is being shutdown much later than WKC was. IMO, it should of been the other way around.

Sitdown4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

Haha, some have no clue of exactly what you just did there. Or am I reading too much into it?

No_Limit4028d ago

In other news, the 2007 X360 online only game, Shadowrun, is still playable on its online server. This show where the priority is for both companies when it comes to online gaming.

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Corpser4028d ago

MAG community is far from dead, why?

And no wonder GameStop has been selling the game used for $0.99. It's an online-only game too

fr0sty4028d ago

It's a shame, I enjoy playing MAG more than just about any other shooter out there. I know many do not agree, as it does have some very obvious flaws, but it's a gem of a game beneath them.

MidnytRain4028d ago

Whoa, a dollar?? Are you serious?

Gridloc4028d ago

That's the only problem I have with digital downloads and multiplayer only games. If they shut the servers down your screwed...

Ray1864028d ago

If it has a lan option you can always use x-link.

fr0sty4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

I would hope such a service would work for a game like MAG, enough of the community (that is already dwindling) would need to know about that capability, and actually be bothered to want to try using it in order for it to work. I think it's just going to kill the community enough to make the game unplayable, as MAG relies on very large matches.

SIRHC134028d ago

H-Hour. We need you. Deliver the tactical third person shooter goods that we deserve!

MoonConquistador4028d ago

And in a run up to a sequel they should be giving this game away free on PS+ at least, or just make it a free to play game. Its a game I always wanted to platinum but there are never enough people on for domination games etc

Great game though

MidnytRain4028d ago

I do think Sony is expecting PlanetSide 2 to fill the massive shooter niche.

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Former Sony Devs Join New Team

Announced yesterday, a couple of former Zipper developers are lacing up their boots again in preparation to begin working on new tactical shooter, Takedown.

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astroanthony4426d ago

Thoughts of new development team?

SilentNegotiator4425d ago

They're former Zipper employees.

Expectations at minimal, Captain!

SuperBeast8114426d ago

I was looking forward to that game but now that zipper is touching it? I dont know they been making crap for almost 10 years now Socom 1 and 2 are the only thing good they have done

JoeReno4426d ago (Edited 4426d ago )

i really disagree, Unit13 is still my most enjoyed Vita game yet. it was quite good, and I for one am glad to hear this news.

Sithlord-Gamble4426d ago

My thoughts exactly.

Unit 13 is awesome, and IMO MAG is underrated.

fei-hung4426d ago

I bought Unit13 on release but only started playing it yesterday. I cannot believe how underrated and under appreciated this game is.

This game is not only better than the likes of COD in terms of military shooter, but the stealth gameplay is beautiful! It's like MGS but with a more military feel.

SuperBeast8114426d ago

I dont have a Vita yet so I havnt tried it maybe I spoke too soon I was just really burnt by Socom 4 but Ill try Unit 13 when I have the cash.

ExposingLames4426d ago

i've learned this site is nothing but kiss asses and fanboys so I usually don't even comment anymore. I read the news and leave. Although your comment will be "disagreed" into oblivion it is 100% fact. Its also the reason ZIPPER GOT CLOSED DOWN. I'm sure the lower level workers aren't really to blame, but there is no denying their games and how bad they were and what they did to SOCOM. What a joke. Glad Zipper is gone.

dead_eye4426d ago

opinion can never be 100% fact.

ExposingLames4426d ago

@ dead eye. its not opinion it is fact. go search "sony closes Zipper interactive" it didnt happen because they were making great games.

xursz4425d ago

"Big Huge Games" got shut down as well (I hope they get picked up by a worthy publisher), yet KoA was greatly received. I personally think MAG is definitely underrated too.

t0mmyb0y4426d ago

There's a reason you have so many disagrees XD

doctorstrange4426d ago

"TAKEDOWN will be developed on PC as the lead platform, and then brought to consoles afterwards"

NYC_Gamer4426d ago (Edited 4426d ago )

I'm happy that Zipper developers found new jobs...

GamingPerson4426d ago (Edited 4426d ago )

PC is lead platform then consoles coming after.
so the tags are messed up.

I can't wait to see what David Jaffe does on pc unless it's a facebook game.

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UFreqTV's Episode 13 - 2011 Season Wrap up, Newb Tube and Ghost Recon Bullet Points

In this Episode, Jack is joined by Commander Claymore Fury via SatCom as they discuss the 2011 Tournament Season and what is in store for 2012. The Nuketown Hooligans bring a little Modern Warfare 3 Spec Ops tips and Lt. Leadhead brings us Ghost Recon: Future Soldier