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3 things Zipper should add to SOCOM 4

The SOCOM 4 beta is in full swing and expected to be available soon to people with codes from Killzone 3.

So the Gamer Sheep website decided to give away two of those codes and post three things Zipper should add to the retail version of the game.

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dizlaoboi9165197d ago

They need to add this thing called decent graphics. That is all

nnotdead5197d ago

whether true or not, im just sick of hearing this phrase.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I5195d ago

I wonder if they will be able to patch SOCOM into this "socom 4" disc. I smell a 3 gb download on release day in order to be able to even think about jumping online with this mess.

Crossing the fingers til release day.

Trroy5197d ago (Edited 5197d ago )

You're in luck then. SOCOM 4's graphics are already miles ahead of Black Ops, and decently on par with MW2. Maybe you should play it before commenting on it.

Sanii5197d ago

Yea right. Mw2 destroys socom 4 visually right now. Socom is only in beta though...

Trroy5197d ago (Edited 5197d ago )

@Sanii:

Dead guys in MW2 drop straight down to the ground (or nearly), and sometimes flop around like whacked-out fish, whereas they look great, and very dynamic in SOCOM 4. The characters in SOCOM 4 are also better looking than MW2 -- the skin shader is definitely way better. SOCOM 4 is also full 720p, and MW2 is ~600p. MW2 is 60 fps, so there's that. The holo sights are cooler in MW2, as well, but the explosions, smoke, and ragdolls I'd have to give to SOCOM.

Its a tough comparison, but overall I'd have to say SOCOM 4 has a slight edge, at least in multiplayer, because its better at the core aspects of making the game look good. CoD has always had amazing SP (due to all the cool mocap animations.. but you don't have that in MP), so I wouldn't be surprised if the tables were turned outside of MP.

What makes you think MW2 looks better?

HolyOrangeCows5197d ago

1) Add SOCOM gameplay
2) Fix grenades so that they don't travel across the entire map for insane grenade spamming kills
3) Bring back the camera a bit

kaveti66165197d ago

Bring back the camera?

I think the camera is a little too far out.

They should make an option to change the camera distance.

ThanatosDMC5196d ago (Edited 5196d ago )

I'd rather play it in first person actually.

1. Make the clan interface better. Queuing up with your clan and trying to cancel makes the group leader drop out of the group.

2. Let the clans talk to each other or the leader of the created clan group.

3. Change the idea that weapons need to gain experience and instead have a ton more customization for all the guns like in all the old Socom games. Instead upgrade the characters capabilities like hold more nades, more hp, resistances... err... like MAG.

4. Gas grenades need to kill faster. It only tickles the nose.

5. Let players make group invites like in MAG so it's not just clan launching so we can play randoms since waiting for a clan challenge takes forever.

6. Let there be voice activation to speak instead of needing to press Up on the d-pad. Glad there's proxy chat so you can hear the enemy when they wont stfu.

I have more complains as well as other people in the Socom forums.

ksoto5197d ago

lol are u serious im in the Socom Beta and the graphics are better than MAG and as good as most FPS out there to date except for KZ of course but thats just an exception to superb graphics.

sickbird5197d ago

SOCOM 4's graphics are great what hell are you looking at?

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renegade5197d ago

what bunch of crying babies.

dizlaoboi9165197d ago

Lol what a bunch of biting fishies

dizlaoboi9165197d ago (Edited 5197d ago )

Socom sucks get over it. Slant 6 were sorry!!!!

gamersheep5197d ago

Slant 6 almost killed SOCOM. Zipper had to rescue it from the electric chair.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I5195d ago

lmao...."they saved it from the electric chair"
ONLY TO PUT IT ON THE LETHAL INJECTION TABLE

HeavenlySnipes5197d ago

The original creators of the game are making the next one. Its like saying Halo is dead after that random company made Halo Wars.

sickbird5197d ago

Yea but they have taken out everything that made the series unique. Its just a generic cover shooter now.

kaveti66165197d ago

Ensemble was not a random company.

Ensemble made Age of Empires.

HeavenlySnipes5197d ago

Age of Empires, that name brings a lot of memories
/s

I honestly have no idea what that game is.

GodofSackboy5196d ago

@HeavenlySnipes

WTF?? you don't know age of empires?? It's the best strategy game EVER...I'm not even biased it was made by Microsoft which I hate but I'll admit that it is the king of strategy games...

ThanatosDMC5196d ago

^It was sarcasm. Note the "/s" he added in the end.

Marquis_de_Sade5196d ago

Yes, by saying he remembered the game in a sarcastic manner, implying he hadn't heard of it.

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Winning5197d ago

Maybe pull the camera back just a little? It can be hard to see when you're inside up against a wall.

I would say add a grenade arc, but surprisingly they usually go where I want them to.

RedPawn5197d ago

I would like an aim swiche, for left & Right sides.

Game is awesome anyways.

ThanatosDMC5196d ago

I dont understand why people complain about wanting a grenade arc either... it's like they've never played another game other than the old Socom.

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SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4 and MAG servers shutting down in January 2014

Original-Gamer.com: "Sony has decided to shutdown the servers for SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4, and MAG in January 2014. SOCOM 4 and MAG were developed by Zipper Interactive while SOCOM Confrontation was developed by Slant Six Games."

Abash4356d ago

Very sad to hear, hopefully Sony continues SOCOM and MAG on PS4

BiggCMan4356d ago

MAG is not even too old yet, this doesn't make any sense. It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans, even one of my friends recently got back into it. Hell even Confrontation has a pretty decent sized dedicated player base, I think only 4 is pretty deserted.

This really makes no sense, the games aren't old. They better be making new games in the future at least.

HammadTheBeast4356d ago

Come on now, MAG's pretty old, their new console is coming out, and there's only about 5000 individual players coming on every month, if that.

It's run its course, a fantastic game while it lasted. Hopefully, we can get a few massive battles in before the servers close, knowing the community, I expect it.

Also, a lot of MAG is on Dust 514 now, which isn't amazing, but is still alright.

kwyjibo4356d ago

It makes sense.

MAG is no longer selling, so Sony is making no money from it. In fact, it's costing them money to keep it alive.

Maybe with PS4 pay-for-online and microtransactions (read: ongoing support), you'll get a better service.

decrypt4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

@HammadTheBeast

"Come on now, MAG's pretty old"

No it isnt, you want really old check out:

Warcraft 3, Starcraft 1, Counter strike. Then tell me why those games are still running?

Sony closing servers to older games is just a tactic to force users on board their next console.

Its the nature of console gaming, too controlled with console gamers having little to no rights at all. Hell if Sony closes PS3 online services after PS4 launch there is nothing console gamers can do about it.

JAMurida4356d ago

MAG is barely alive now these days. Domination is only playable early AM hours (CST) when the JP players get on and that only last a few hours. Only thing going on is Sabo or Suppression.

Lucky to get an Interdiction or Acquisition going.

Utalkin2me4356d ago

Kind of ironic i recently put mag back in and got all the updates and restored all my skill points. And OMG i could not kill anybody for nothing, it was quite weird. I used to be beast at that game and i went negative for a few games before finally i quit. Felt like i was doing worse for the team then helping.

It wasn't very populated then, but hate to hear that.

BattleAxe4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

H-Hour is the new Socom. You can still support the development studio by way of Paypal, and you still get access to all of the Kickstarter rewards, but only until the end of the month.

http://sofstudios.com/index...

H-Hour is set to come out on PS4 and PC.

Corpser4356d ago

@all

MAG was released in 2010, just 3 years ago! You're telling me I should expect online servers to be around for just 3 years?

GasTankKiller4355d ago (Edited 4355d ago )

"It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans."

You only see one side of this. Sony sees the stats of how many players are playing on average. No reason to waste server power for a handle full of people. Yes that handle full could be a few thousand but still.

From what I remember during MAGs development. Zipper was given a blank check and setup a server farm for MAG.

No reason to let all those servers go to waste. They will most likely use them for the PS4.

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GameCents4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

Where's the outrage? They effectively saying that you've been renting MAG all this time. Online only games shouldn't have their servers shut so soon.

HammadTheBeast4356d ago

There's about 200 people on at any time now.... and most from the free demo.

Corpser4356d ago

^^

So? You're perfectly fine an online-only game that people are still playing will be shut down

JAMurida4356d ago

#Corpser

Yes there is a community, but a very small one. It's the same case with White Knight Chronicles 1/2. Both MAG and WKC I've played heavy enough to say they had a very small community that most likely didn't warrant Sony paying the money to keep the servers going for any longer. It sucks, but it happens when it's a case like this.

If anything, I'm more surprised that MAG is being shutdown much later than WKC was. IMO, it should of been the other way around.

Sitdown4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

Haha, some have no clue of exactly what you just did there. Or am I reading too much into it?

No_Limit4356d ago

In other news, the 2007 X360 online only game, Shadowrun, is still playable on its online server. This show where the priority is for both companies when it comes to online gaming.

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Corpser4356d ago

MAG community is far from dead, why?

And no wonder GameStop has been selling the game used for $0.99. It's an online-only game too

fr0sty4356d ago

It's a shame, I enjoy playing MAG more than just about any other shooter out there. I know many do not agree, as it does have some very obvious flaws, but it's a gem of a game beneath them.

MidnytRain4356d ago

Whoa, a dollar?? Are you serious?

Gridloc4356d ago

That's the only problem I have with digital downloads and multiplayer only games. If they shut the servers down your screwed...

Ray1864356d ago

If it has a lan option you can always use x-link.

fr0sty4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

I would hope such a service would work for a game like MAG, enough of the community (that is already dwindling) would need to know about that capability, and actually be bothered to want to try using it in order for it to work. I think it's just going to kill the community enough to make the game unplayable, as MAG relies on very large matches.

SIRHC134356d ago

H-Hour. We need you. Deliver the tactical third person shooter goods that we deserve!

MoonConquistador4356d ago

And in a run up to a sequel they should be giving this game away free on PS+ at least, or just make it a free to play game. Its a game I always wanted to platinum but there are never enough people on for domination games etc

Great game though

MidnytRain4356d ago

I do think Sony is expecting PlanetSide 2 to fill the massive shooter niche.

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Former Sony Devs Join New Team

Announced yesterday, a couple of former Zipper developers are lacing up their boots again in preparation to begin working on new tactical shooter, Takedown.

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astroanthony4754d ago

Thoughts of new development team?

SilentNegotiator4753d ago

They're former Zipper employees.

Expectations at minimal, Captain!

SuperBeast8114754d ago

I was looking forward to that game but now that zipper is touching it? I dont know they been making crap for almost 10 years now Socom 1 and 2 are the only thing good they have done

JoeReno4754d ago (Edited 4754d ago )

i really disagree, Unit13 is still my most enjoyed Vita game yet. it was quite good, and I for one am glad to hear this news.

Sithlord-Gamble4754d ago

My thoughts exactly.

Unit 13 is awesome, and IMO MAG is underrated.

fei-hung4754d ago

I bought Unit13 on release but only started playing it yesterday. I cannot believe how underrated and under appreciated this game is.

This game is not only better than the likes of COD in terms of military shooter, but the stealth gameplay is beautiful! It's like MGS but with a more military feel.

SuperBeast8114754d ago

I dont have a Vita yet so I havnt tried it maybe I spoke too soon I was just really burnt by Socom 4 but Ill try Unit 13 when I have the cash.

ExposingLames4754d ago

i've learned this site is nothing but kiss asses and fanboys so I usually don't even comment anymore. I read the news and leave. Although your comment will be "disagreed" into oblivion it is 100% fact. Its also the reason ZIPPER GOT CLOSED DOWN. I'm sure the lower level workers aren't really to blame, but there is no denying their games and how bad they were and what they did to SOCOM. What a joke. Glad Zipper is gone.

dead_eye4754d ago

opinion can never be 100% fact.

ExposingLames4754d ago

@ dead eye. its not opinion it is fact. go search "sony closes Zipper interactive" it didnt happen because they were making great games.

xursz4753d ago

"Big Huge Games" got shut down as well (I hope they get picked up by a worthy publisher), yet KoA was greatly received. I personally think MAG is definitely underrated too.

t0mmyb0y4754d ago

There's a reason you have so many disagrees XD

doctorstrange4754d ago

"TAKEDOWN will be developed on PC as the lead platform, and then brought to consoles afterwards"

NYC_Gamer4754d ago (Edited 4754d ago )

I'm happy that Zipper developers found new jobs...

GamingPerson4754d ago (Edited 4754d ago )

PC is lead platform then consoles coming after.
so the tags are messed up.

I can't wait to see what David Jaffe does on pc unless it's a facebook game.

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UFreqTV's Episode 13 - 2011 Season Wrap up, Newb Tube and Ghost Recon Bullet Points

In this Episode, Jack is joined by Commander Claymore Fury via SatCom as they discuss the 2011 Tournament Season and what is in store for 2012. The Nuketown Hooligans bring a little Modern Warfare 3 Spec Ops tips and Lt. Leadhead brings us Ghost Recon: Future Soldier