25 Needed Features for Killzone 3

The Killzone fans have spoken, and they feel as though Guerilla Games left out some key features that could have greatly improved the overall gameplay of Killzone 3. Here is a list of some essential features that we feel should be added or re-implemented into the game. If you feel like anything was left out , feel free to comment below and we’ll update it!

[Helghast1390]

I agree

[thegamefanatics]

Your profile..it's full of awesomeness!

[deafwing]

all great things missing from the MP

[-Alpha]

Wth, I wrote this!

http://community.killzone.c...

:O

This was just a forum post copied into an article. I was only trying to outline what KZ3 lost in translation and am trying to talk to the devs on the forum to see if any of those features can come back.

It wasn't meant to be a totally serious post either. I don't expect spawn grenades to return but I do think taking step backs with something like stat tracking, removing theater replay, etc was something illogical to do in a sequel.

The article doesn't even source the forum post. Time for a lawlsuit?

[cyborg6971]

You should be pissed alpha and you were spot on with the list. I can't believe they took out so much stuff in a sequel, aren't you suppose to ADD to a sequel. Tell em to take off hoser.

[theonlylolking]

HAHAHA you should sue them.

[Nitrowolf2]

lol dude i saw this and here i was thinking you submitted it as news

[4me2]

I can not find the source (it was somewhere in official blog) but they announced that custom games (exactly like KZ2) patch coming shortly after release. So at least some of the features missing in KZ3 should come back.

PS
Alpha-Male22- you having 8 bubbles makes me think twice about disagreeing with you (jk)

[Pixelated_Army]

What the fuck! Alpha I was the one who encouraged you to make this in the first place! No credit for me..?..that BS! haha

Oh god don't let the attention go to your head. :P lol Congrats dude!

[DoomeDx]

I agree. Except for the Squad Respawn Alpha-male.

I mean..there is a 5 second respawn time. The abillity to spawn on your squad leader will just make it even worse.

It worked with killzone 2, because the respawn toke 10 seconds

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

If this list is your I agree on almost everything.

I disagree on #25, Sniper Rifles are supposed to take enemies out with one shot, don't matter if it hit the leg or arm, with big enough bullet no one fights back... Every game I heard the same complain and I don't know if there is a post-release solution but lowering the damage on snipers make no sense. Better would be if while designing the game devs think twice about including sniper rifles, most multiplayer maps on practically all shooter don't fit it, they fit marksman rifles at the best.

EDIT: I would like to add (for the next Killzone) they could use a longer campaing and a better ending. KZ3 was a great single player game (I'm just starting the MP today, so I won't judge for now) but when you are just wanting more, out of nowhere, the game ends on a kind of lame battle, totally oposite to KZ2 Radec battle.

The game also felt way easier (beated it on hardest dificulty available on first playthrough and made it through same parts without dying not even once) although I wouldn't say it's a problem, it's still fun.

[HolyOrangeCows]

lol, they're making money off of it, too, thanks to their ads. That's BS.

[NeloAnjelo]

Great Post Alpha. I agree with everything on the list. These made KZ2 so unique!

[Dee_91]

ALPHA GET YOUR MONEY BRO !!

[ChronoJoe]

To be fair a list like this is kind of... dumb.

There are a few key problems that GG need to focus on. I don't want them getting caught up with crap like re-adding honor ranking.

That and asking for features which can't happen (Custom music consumes more system resources) so they won't be able to add it in without improving efficiency of all code. An absurd request at post development stages.

[killalot100]

LMAO as soon as I saw this I was like, they stoled this from a killzone 3 forum post I read a couple of days ago.

[Zydake]

Hey i think you should. But then again if a website gained attention of your post that might be a good thing makes you think probably a dev read it too

[hiredhelp]

25 Needed Features for Killzone 3

TOO LATE ITS OUT TUFF LUCK.
LOL na seriously biggest flaw i found with kz3 multiplayer wise. was the matchmaking. total BS' we choose EU servers. yet you get people all over joining americans too. not being funny or having ago cos americans join but EU servers are meant to make connection better. thoe i feel kz2 was better choose your lobby's for best pings. all games seem to take this cheap route these days.

[FinalSpartan]

man downgraded ks2 . what a shame.

[hiredhelp]

oohh we have a hater here.

[ChronoJoe]

He's never played a KZ game loll

[MintBerryCrunch]

why does the game give me the ability to make 4 turrets when it automatically destroys the one i have already set up...dumbest thing they did MP wise going from KZ2 to 3

[CaliGamer]

I think that only 4 turrets can be active at any given time. So if you and 3 other people have a turret active, then another person would have to wait for one to be destroyed before they could place one.

Seems like they were trying to balance the game by doing that, one person with like 4 turrets racking up kills.

[MintBerryCrunch]

i do realize that, but in KZ2 if 4 turrets arent active, you can set up a 2nd or 3rd turret if the slots are open, yet even if you level up your engineer in 3, the moment you try to place a 2nd turret to give you some support, your other turret blows up

[-Alpha]

I learned that the hard way. Placed my second turret next to my first one and committed suicide

[Soldierone]

And thats what was happening....lol. I stay alive long enough to earn a second turret and was wondering why my old one always disapeared. Thats just stupid

[thehitman]

I believe its so u can change the location of the turret instead of placing 1 and its stuck there.

[norman29]

Because if not it gives players the ability to camp and surround themselves with turrets, and if you have all 4 turrets active then your team mates cant activate any as its 4 turrets for the whole team not each player so GG had to give everyone a fair chance of using them, its just the same with the Drones, you call another one and the first one flys away.

[MintBerryCrunch]

plus with the games going down from 32 to 24, less players rely on that class, if lets say you are the only engineer on your team, why shouldnt you be able to set up more than one turret

[rdgneoz3]

You can make multiple turrets if you live long enough and your turret gets destroyed. Same thing with my medic being able to have 3 medi-droids or such, if one blows up, wait for the cooldown to end and you can pop another.
That's all taking into consideration that you're good enough to survive that time frame without being killed. The extra "lives" or such for your turret or such refill over time or such.
Also, if you want to move your placement of a turret, ta-da, you have the ability to place it somewhere else to get the right placement to hold off the enemy, but you can only do so as long as you have extra available.

[paintsville]

5 things
Color
More enemy variety
Color
Story
Color
Online Co-Op
Color
4 player split screen

Oh that's more than 5. Oh and did I mention color?

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Wasn't even funny

[XI_-Minty-_IX]

You haven't seen any footage of Kaznan Jungle or Blood Gracht, have you?

[nycredude]

^^^^^^^

See kids. This is your brain on Xbox 360.

[Nicaragua]

What the fuck does "more enemy variety" mean in an article that is discussing online gameplay?

Playing against human beings not good enough for you anymore?

[nightmarex121]

If everyone had 4 turrets you could just mass them which is really cheap. Also they to encourage people to hack other people turrets. But yeah i think their should be a least 2 turrets if its like a big map.

[RXL]

i tried playing online last night and couldn't find a game for the life of me...are the servers down?

someone please answer..

-in need of some kz mp!

[Paradise Lost]

Was working fine with me, got in a game within 10 seconds.

[NBT91]

Been working ever since launch (occasional disconnects though) that is here in the UK.

[KRATOS-PS3]

Well, I'm having connection problemes too sometimes. Maybe GG having problems with the servers, I don't know - but the MP is great. GG made an awesome job with this game.

[RXL]

bubbles to all who responded...thank you.

[ZombieAssassin]

The match making hasn't been that great for some, the devs are working on it though trying to figure out what's causing it. I think that's why they have been shutting down the servers lately for a couple of hours, to try and fix them.

@below
Lol thanks

[RXL]

bubble..

awesome name btw lol

[Soldierone]

You must be playing Black Ops instead, check the disc. :P Joking aside, a patch is coming out soon that should fix the issues. In the meantime just leave and come back and it should work.

[RXL]

that is no joke...ugh@ the connectivity issues of black ops..

i like playing but it's frustrating when all you want to do is play..and you get that stupid little disconnect sign..

i could stick my finger down a kittens throat every time that pops up

[the_kutaragi_baka]

Killzone 3 need more maps for operations mode.

[Silver_Faux]

They'l come man if you can wait, which sucks i know.

[Biggest]

I like that they added a mode similar to Rush. Now my two favorite multiplayer modes are in the same game! (Warzone and "Rush")

[ZombieAssassin]

Ha i think this guy just stole Alpha-Male22's list from the Killzone forums damn near word for word, still it's true it needs damn near all of them.

http://community.killzone.c...

@below
EDIT: Ha he doesn't seem to remember you him asking

[G3Titan_]

I talked to alpha male and got his permission ,and as you can see I'm not taking any credit whatsoever. It directly states "The Killzone Fans Have Spoken".

[-Alpha]

When did you get my permission?

Are you even aware I'm on both the KZ forums and on N4G?

[xjumpman23]

http://community.killzone.c...

here you can use my thread as long as you cite me as the source .

[rdgneoz3]

Yah, "The Killzone Fans Have Spoken", but you should give credit when its not your words. You never mentioned Alpha-Male22 at all in your editorial, so you saying fans have spoken can make it seem like you wrote those words and are speaking for all KZ fans.

[AssassinHD]

You don't technically need his permission, as Alpha-Male22 likely does not own a copyright for his forum post, but still, making an article centered around his forum post without affording him the simple courtesy of asking him gives me a very poor impression about your character. Of course then you lied about getting his permission so you look even worse.

[G3Titan_]

I messaged him via psn and the kz forums whether he got it or not I don't know but all I am trying to do is give it a chance to be seen. I never once tried to take credit as I said you can clearly see that it states "The Killzone fans have spoken, and they feel as though Guerilla Games left out some key features that could have greatly improved the overall gameplay of Killzone 3."

[Soldierone]

Its not correctly sourced either way. and saying "i dont know if he got it or not" is also another mistake. Either he allowed you to copy it or not.

If you were a big site like IGN you could of gotten in a lot more trouble than people telling you this.

Either re write it in your own words next time or source it correctly. Name of author, and link to website location, with article in quotes.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Lol you don't know if he got it or not. That's your case? All you have to do is cite the author and source. Even after people have called you out on it, you still have not. It's not that hard.

[G3Titan_]

All he wanted was his username and the forum link.

[AssassinHD]

So you don't know if he got your messages, but somehow that translates into "I got his permission"?

[gameguidedog]

I concur most wholeheartedly

[bwazy]

What the..... This article is a pretty much DIRECT copy and paste from a user on the KZ3 forums.... I seriously doubt its the same guy too...

Edit: Oh its been said above.... But still.

[Silver_Faux]

yeah but its a good list :)

[--------]

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I can understand a FEW of the points on that list, but you're essentially asking for Killzone 2 with improved graphics and new maps. That is not what the majority wants.

Sitting around and picking out every tiny little detail that you think is wrong with something completely takes all the fun away from it.

[-Alpha]

Is it so wrong to expect KZ2 with improved graphics? Besides, I'm OK with KZ3 being KZ3. I enjoy what makes it different to an extent, but that doesn't mean what made KZ2 great should have been ditched in KZ3.

The majority in this case are the casual, wider FPS fans (i.e. COD fans)

I don't think they should take priority over older Killzone fans, nor do I think they are even aware of what they are missing.

And like I said above, I wasn't expecting all of those to happen. However, it makes me wonder why instead of improving certain things they removed them completely.

Stat tracking, theater replay, squads, squad spawning, Weekly honors, clan messaging systems, clan scheduling, clan officer roles, ability to see medic on-screen, etc. Those sort of things have no excuse to be removed, it's as if they scrapped those great things completely. I just don't see why you would be OK with that or how you could say this isn't what people would want. I think those features are things any gamer could appreciate.

[CBaoth]

Didn't know if I appreciated the changes to KZ3 it made me a CoD fanboy! That's great to know. Or...

Or maybe I just hated the input lag.

And you list 25 reasons wall of text but fail to mention the paultry number of maps and the mind-boggling idiocy of the playlists? All maps should be playable in GW. All forthcoming DLC should contain 1 map for operations and 1 for warzone with both playable on team deathmatch.

[-Alpha]

I wasn't speaking on anyone's behalf, that's what the article said, not me. I solely spoke for myself and asked the forum for signatures, to which I got 27 pages worth. I never expected that to happen but I knew a lot of fans of K2 were upset with how much K3 left out

I never said liking KZ3 changes made anyone a COD fanboy, though I know lots of COD-only players like KZ3 being a more accessible game, despite the fact that they still complain about the game's controls and health, which is already tweaked from KZ2.

I agree that they should have designed the game for all modes to be playable in and I am disappointed that they are continuing the trend with their DLC. However, I can understand Operations being a little harder to incorporate.

@Goddess

The reason why the "repeat map" is happening is because it's a bug that will be fixed. It's not a big deal either. Just back out and change your filters to avoid the repeated map.

And while I do think GG made some bad moves I do not think that Killzone 3 is bullshit. It's still a fun game that I enjoy, the list was solely done to show GG what they left out and that those features can and have made the game exceptionally unique in the past. They left out too much and KZ3 feels barebones in terms of what Killzone 2 used to be. Thus, I made the list to open a discussion with fans/the devs in the hopes that they would respond/shed some light on what is going to happen with the game's future

[BABY-JEDI]

Any word back from GG? I think most of the points you have made are valid (also shooting spawn grenades, exceptional point). I'm just curious why GG felt soo much dis-belief in their product (KZ2), to warrant such asset stripping of an amazing franchise in-terms of online gameplay. Let's hope GG rectify some of these points.

[-Alpha]

One dev said they dont have the time to respond to every point and directed everybody to the patch list released a few days ago.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

False. There are many essential community and squad features that were removed from KZ2. The biggest problem people had with KZ2 was the controls. That "issue" had been resolved. There arte ask some questionable decisions by Guerilla, moving forward.

[9thGenHero]

So did Guerilla comment on whether you will play as helgast in a future sp DLC?

[Mr Tretton]

There is no future SP dlc

[knowledge4lfe]

i want to know why the hell everytime i go into warzone it puts me in the SAME DAMN MAP EVERYTIME. i shouldnt have to go to map selection and have it say ANY, yet i never play a different map. its supposed to roate. wtf is the deal with this???

[Silver_Faux]

Its a glitch that will be fixed in the next patch

[rdgneoz3]

Because its the most used map so you're getting thrown in since there's space for more players in it. Also, if you really want something different, go to map selection and pick something other than "ANY".

[Soldierone]

only issue is you get stuck on that map non stop. which sucks, hope they fix it soon. Tired of having to leave, change maps, then re join.

[Esena]

The only suggestion I have for GG is to make Guerrilla Warfare longer because right now it is wayyyyyy to short!

Do not bring Custom Matches back, it is only confusing to the average user. If you do bring them back, make them Unranked.

[Silver_Faux]

Yeah I thought they were too bloody short as well. However i think that GG said they were brining back custom games in the next patch or something.

[ZombieAssassin]

I believe they said they have a patch lined up to extend the time in GW, not sure if it's the next one or not but we'll find out sson as GG said the next patch should be out in under 2 weeks.

Custom games are also coming back, not sure if they'll be in the next patch or not either also not sure if they'll be ranked or not but i hope they are.

[dead_eye]

From what I've read custom matches are coming back but unranked and private. You'll have to invite people to play (bit shit really)

Should go back to K2 match making

[Esena]

The reason I wouldn't like custom matches to be ranked, is because it mitigates the universal ranked game system. People will just make certain game types to level up quickly and so on.

In a ranked setting, everyone should be bound by the same rules/format. I'm all for custom unranked games though. For those that wanna have extended bodycount session and whatnot.

[dead_eye]

I'm not bothered by the unranked think thats totally fair but if you can't have an open lobby then can see that been crap

[Der_Kommandant]

MORE OPERATIONS!

[Craptain_Steel]

I wouldn't complain if they brought the non scoped Sta14 back ,i hate the new scope :l

[BrianC6234]

Why does rubbish like this get posted as news? This isn't news. It's just a forum post if anything. Is this site going to start posting every forum post as news?

[fanatical_g]

Actually dicktit this was posted as an opinion piece :)

[BrianC6234]

Opinion piece? More like crap. All it is really is a forum post. This doesn't belong on this site. That's what is wrong with this site now. They let anyone post on here. It isn't news and it isn't even an opinion piece. Post it on a forum.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Rubbish? Care to expand on that?

[Helghast1390]

How is this rubbish? Seems to me that many people would like some of these things added including myself

[DevilishSix]

I feel KZ3 mp is a step back. Not sure what happened, shorter developement time? It's weird because KZ2 mp had an excellent foundation, but KZ3 feels like KZ2 was scrapped.

One of the best things was the option to swap out abilities. It was so fun taking an engineer and adding on a sentry drone, so you could have a turrent and a sentry drone going at the sametime, don't care if it was a balancing issue or not, it was a combination for defense in Warzone.

[GoldPS3]

I agree I feel the same way about the abilities. I thought GG would keep that in but sadly didn't.

[Barajas_201]

I WANT CUSTOM SOUNDTRACK!!!!!!!!

[KonohagakureFC]

DLC weapons would be great, thats one thing I'd like to see

[claterz]

Yes, but only to the medic and engineer, both those classes suck compared to all the others and they are two of the most important ones. I swear 80% of people on my team are infiltrator or marksman just so they can get some kills for themselves, really pisses me off, and I'm the one who is running around reviving them because I actually want us to win! so annoying!

[Esena]

Play with a static group of people. It helps and makes the game much much much more fun :)

[ShadowArchangel]

I play Medic all the time, and I'm most of the time on the top 3 in my group. I do not see the need for new weapons for the medic class. Never had problems with the Marksman and Infiltrator class either.

Guess everyone has different experiences though.

[claterz]

ShadowArchangel, I just don't see how it's fair that not only do they get invisibility and disguise, they also get the best weapons in the game, while medics and engineers have pretty average weapons. I just want the game to feel more balanced and team orientated which is what people keep going on about with this game, to me it's just another FPS geared towards KD ratios.

[tigertron]

I hope they patch all this stuff in.

A few more suggestions would be adding more, if not all of the KZ2 maps (my personal favourite being the Vektan cruiser). Also, some more KZ1 maps AND (as I've said before) giving us the option to turn burst mode off for the ISA assault rifle in the medic class.

[FAGOL]

I agree with everything accept for the custom music. Why would you want music playing while playing a fps? Anyway was it in Killzone 2? Because I did'nt play that. If it was I would understand why some people would want it back.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Yes it was in Killzone 2

[Helghast1390]

Looks to me as this was posted to help get some of these ideas passed. If some of you assholes would just open your freaking eyes and see that. Not everyone checks forums so you should be happy that someone even realized the potential of your post. I would like to see custom soundtrack in the game as well as more operation maps.

[fanatical_g]

Yeah the point of this was to get these ideas out there, we have a voice but if we're too busy jabbing at each other then our voices are useless.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

The proper place for these issues is the Killzone 3 official site forum: http://community.killzone.c...

Go whine there, according to the official forums: GG is listening to you.

[thegamefanatics]

OR if you have the ability you can shed light on the issue, and share it with the majority of gamers, who don't go on the official forums.

"The point of this was to get these ideas out there"

[FlashBack]

the only things I miss are costum games, squads and the whole stat tracking thing

[4me2]

According to official blog

"
Shortly after the game's release, you'll also see these changes patched in:

Support for color-blind players
Implement unranked custom games for players to create private or clan matches
Enhanced custom games functionality that will allow players to:
Control over games modes and settings
Secure games, allowing you to invite the players you want to play with
The ability to prevent abilities and weapons from being used
Toggling on and off functionality, such as ribbons, skills, explosives, etc.
Selecting which careers you want available to players
Allow friendly fire to be turned on or off
Faction switching enabled or disabled
The Clan Officer role will be added to clans
Separate turn speeds for hip-fire and ADS
Overly enthusiastic death screams will be toned down
Increased the amount of kills required to win a Guerrilla Warfare match
Increased Accuracy ribbon will have its effectiveness lowered
Likewise, the Bullet Damage ribbon will have its effectiveness lowered as well
Matches will end if the other team forfeits (i.e. too few, or no players on the enemy team)
Matchmaking enhancements that will close and merge games based on player count, which will keep games more full
Balance factions out by moving players to the other team at the end of the match if one team is lopsided
The ability to turn off HUD markers for point pop-ups and objectives
A menu option to allow squad-only chat
The addition of a Mute All button
Scoreboard flickering will be fixed
Clans will no longer get matched against other clans that have many more players than they do (i.e. 4 vs. 7, 5 vs. 8)
"

http://www.killzone.com/kz3...

[ScentlessApprentice7]

That was one of the features that REALLY made KZ2 stand out amongst its competition.

I loved it primarily because I mostly play as a Tactician and strategically using the spawn grenade (and not just throwing it in the middle of the freaking fire fight just for the sake of using it) was a highlight of KZ2 for me. Knowing that my well-placed spawn grenades helped turn the tide for my team really brought a sense of accomplishment.

I hope Guerrilla at least brings spawn grenades back to use in custom games.

[XxPURExX]

They wont come back due 2 the coding according 2 GG, but spawn grenades where just as bad or did you guys forget all the c4 at the spawn grenades. Can only hope 4 squad leader spawning to make it back now

[SockMaster]

Hey madvillainX,
The spawn system is fairly set in stone.
There will be no squad spawning and no spawn grenades in KZ3.

AllyH (One of the Devs) Wrote this

The spawning is horrible! WTH?! I cant belive they are not fixing this, TSP's are horrible people just camp outside and throw nades, or stand from a distance and spray inwards towards the spawn.

Does ANYONE agree?! :(

[OC_MurphysLaw]

LOL...up to 25 things now? Just a few days ago it was only 5 according to this article: http://n4g.com/news/708323/...

I hate these "Fix these issues now" articles. This belongs in the forums for that games tech issues...not a full on article on a gaming site. Total waste.

[Game0N]

definitely needs to improve the stats tracking system, sometimes i dont even know what my own rank is until i actually level up, i cant tell what other players levels are,never know what map im playin on cos it doesn't say it, it feels really incomplete at times in terms of presentation in comparison to Killzone 2 but i guess they will patch all these things soon!

[palaeomerus]

Mainly I want a totally customizable control scheme and online coop.

[ipconflict]

Hi all, I have gone ahead and added all of these ideas to www.bigady.com so we can vote on the best ones to have a clear understanding for the developers to see what we really one. The RSS feed for the most popular Killzone 3 ideas is here: http://www.bigady.com/popul...

[Pug]

My copy arrived yesterday and I'm loving it so far. 5 minutes in and I immediately want to kill Rico!! :)

On another note I have the Move as well.. boy was that a bit weird to begin with but I'm slowly getting into it and really enjoying it. I love the knife attack with the Move, its sweeet!