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Zipper calls SOCOM 4 'the real first SOCOM on the PS3'

Destructoid: Last week, I had some hands-on time with Zipper Interactive's SOCOM 4, the studio's first SOCOM game in four and a half years (the last entry in the franchise that the developer worked on was the 2006 PSP game SOCOM: Fireteam Bravo 2). This isn't the first iteration of the series on the PS3 -- Slant Six Games developed the online-only SOCOM: Confrontation, which launched in October 2008 to middling reviews.

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Dante1125244d ago

Hooyah indeed. I can't wait to play this out. Hopefully the beta opens up on Feb 22.

ilikestuff5244d ago

ugh, respawn ranked matches, killstreaks, and two primary guns. im not too sure how "real" of a socom this will be. might sound weird but thats not going to stop me from getting it though, i still think this will be the best shooter out for a long while

XI_-Minty-_IX5244d ago

That's why there's Classic mode.

DaTruth5244d ago (Edited 5244d ago )

Haven't really been into Socom since the first one, but this looks and sounds amazing!

5 player co-op... BOMBACLAT!!!

edit: Just remembered I own Confrontation and only played it twice! Barely any "Deathmatch" games and everyone just plays "Elimination" and waits around in a dark corner for hours!

crzyjackbauer5244d ago

@XI_-Minty-_IX
Classic mode is a kik in the ball sack to all the socom fans
zipper just made socom4 accesible to the COD kids
in the process they forgot what socom was all about

i got no proble with respawns but dont make them ranked maches, i do have a problem with health regeneration & killstreaks keep the COD crap out of Socom

morganfell5244d ago

I think this will be a blast but Zipper is ignoring the fact that one of their own, and Zipper proper oversaw and approved every feature in SOCOM Confrontation.

Also anyone that hasn't played SOCOM recently hasn't played it. The game is an entirely different animal with the improvements versus it's first 6 months.

DarkSpawnClone5244d ago

I'm actually one of the people that like where socom is going i am not sure what classic mode will have in it but i do like the option of being able to respawn when i just want to play around and then when i get down to it and get all serious hit up some classic mode..and as for 2 primary guns i played games that has 2 primary guns and its not as bad as you think i love that actually i use to always have 1.Assault rifle 2.Sniper rifle/or shot gun for close combat in the games that had this give it a shot before you bash it there is a beta coming up Give it a try!!

xAlmostPro5244d ago

classic mode isn't so classic to be honest..

No extraction or elimination gametypes, no pistols, no d-pad lean..

i mean really? the pistol thing ,makes absolutely zero sense..

Bits-N-Kibbles5234d ago

when I hear the phrase "Classic Mode". There should only be one mode, and that is what they are calling "Classic Mode"

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Ninver5244d ago

Never played a Socom game before but this one looks very promising. I may have to see what all the fuss is about :)

NukaCola5244d ago

SOCOM was good. SOCOM 2 was amazing. Confrontation was terrible. never played the PSP games. I have lots of faith that SOCOM 4 will be nothing short of excellent. But we'll see with the beta coming with KZ3.

Eskimodog5244d ago

Socom was good, Socom 2 was amazing, socom 3 was ok, Confrontation was alright when the expansion came out, it isnt terrible many worse games.
I hope socom 4 has that same feel as socom 2, i wont need another game for a long time.

xc7x5244d ago

Socom #1 was the best actually,#2 had more variety and features though and #3 was still very good too. I played them all until they all died by hacks apiece too. Confrontation was / is not terrible but it is obviously not a true Socom game so lacks in the gameplay dept.,however stands well as a third-person shooter if with a Socom name slapped on it,dev's did a decent job trying to mimmick the series but no one can copy the masters. i agree that likely Socom 4 will be excellent,ya can immediately tell just by viewing the videos. it may not meet everyone's desires because it's new and not a repeat of the past versions but i think it will set a new standard this gen.

BattleAxe5244d ago

Socom 4 should have been a priority over making MAG. Everyone that was still playing Socom: Combined Assault couldn't wait for Socom on PS3 because thats when they were going to go out and buy a PS3. Socom 2 and Combined Assault were my two favorite Socom games, and to of my favorite games of all time. I hope Socom 4 can bring the magic back.

Raider695244d ago (Edited 5244d ago )

Well if you like me are waiting for Socom 4 to be like the great Socom 2 i guess you are going to be disappointed like im already!For what i have seen the tactical approach is been left down by a more COD approach!Just like ilikestuff  stated above!Check the Socom forum to see the fans rage!

http://forums.socom.com/t5/...

voice_of_ reason5244d ago

Exactly... what they did to Socom is like if PD took Gran Turismo and added NOS, street racing, cop chases, and hookers... It would ruin it!

Trroy5244d ago

@voice_of_reason

Actually, if they added those things, you could just opt to not use them.

That's like saying Forza would be worse if they added more cars.

Dante1125244d ago (Edited 5244d ago )

I know I might get alot of heat for this but this whole "true socom fan" stuff reminds me of when Resident Evil 4 got announce/preview with the new camera view and features and how it's community came down hard on it. "It looks dumb, where's my old view, it's not gonna be in a city environment, grenades!!!" Long story short, RE4 ended up winning GOTY and the so called "true RE fans" ended up liking the game. It's even in some top three now.

BISHOP-BRASIL5244d ago

@Dante112

I think you missed the point where the old RE fans still hated the game after launch, the new fans which were responsible to the peak in sales abandomned the franchise in the sequel (RE5) and the old fans got some voice on the media again, as anywhere you type RE there'll be someone to ask old RE back. RE4 actually WAS the downfall of RE as every old fan called it before, and the camera was nothing new to RE old fans, it's the same camera from RE Dead Aim (which is a spin-off belonging to the Gun Survivor franchise, as in, a shooter, not a real RE, an survival horror game).

@deadlybrand

Although you are totally right and I would still add tactical strike to what likestuff said (from the description, it looks like MAG recon UAV, artillery, mortar barrage, cluster bombs, jammers, respawn time modfiers and stats modfiers options, but we don't know if it will be based off from killstreaks like in COD or from squad leader position like in MAG) but I believe in Zipper beyond that.

I'm sure they are trying to appeal to new players (specially KZ3 players) with all that stuff but, considering their track history, untimatelly they shall listen to their fanbase and settle for ranked modes that will please those people. Zipper is known by its great support, I don't think they'll quit it just yet, more likely all this options will be extensively tried on the beta (which, afterall, will have to please Killzone 3 buyers since those are the ones getting this beta) but not necessarily will be like that in the final game.

We'll have to wait and see, but I think in the worst case scenario, classic mode will still end up being the dominant game mode 3 months after release.

Dante1125244d ago (Edited 5244d ago )

@ bishop

"the new fans which were responsible to the peak in sales (RE4) abandomned the franchise in the sequel (RE5) and the old fans got some voice on the media again, as anywhere you type RE there'll be someone to ask old RE back. RE4 actually WAS the downfall of RE as every old fan called it before"

Lol, I would hardly call 4.97-5 million (maybe more since this article was back in 09) a downfall or say that it's "new" or old fans "abandoned" (forsake, leave behind) the sequel if they're hitting these numbers (RE5).

http://www.shacknews.com/on...

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GoldPS35244d ago

Preorder KZ3 and get the Socom beta.

mightyboot5244d ago

I already did that O_O ftw!

danmachine5244d ago

Were getting the beta through PS plus next month aswell

BISHOP-BRASIL5244d ago

Was this confirmed? Because I'll actually buy into that trap if that is the case.

I don't like any kind of subscription service, but I need to play this beta and I highly doubt pre-orders in Brazil will be including the beta (I'll get KZ3 regardless, love its single player).

_Q_5244d ago

Burn and yes I will probably agree once its out...

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SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4 and MAG servers shutting down in January 2014

Original-Gamer.com: "Sony has decided to shutdown the servers for SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4, and MAG in January 2014. SOCOM 4 and MAG were developed by Zipper Interactive while SOCOM Confrontation was developed by Slant Six Games."

Abash4357d ago

Very sad to hear, hopefully Sony continues SOCOM and MAG on PS4

BiggCMan4357d ago

MAG is not even too old yet, this doesn't make any sense. It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans, even one of my friends recently got back into it. Hell even Confrontation has a pretty decent sized dedicated player base, I think only 4 is pretty deserted.

This really makes no sense, the games aren't old. They better be making new games in the future at least.

HammadTheBeast4357d ago

Come on now, MAG's pretty old, their new console is coming out, and there's only about 5000 individual players coming on every month, if that.

It's run its course, a fantastic game while it lasted. Hopefully, we can get a few massive battles in before the servers close, knowing the community, I expect it.

Also, a lot of MAG is on Dust 514 now, which isn't amazing, but is still alright.

kwyjibo4357d ago

It makes sense.

MAG is no longer selling, so Sony is making no money from it. In fact, it's costing them money to keep it alive.

Maybe with PS4 pay-for-online and microtransactions (read: ongoing support), you'll get a better service.

decrypt4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )

@HammadTheBeast

"Come on now, MAG's pretty old"

No it isnt, you want really old check out:

Warcraft 3, Starcraft 1, Counter strike. Then tell me why those games are still running?

Sony closing servers to older games is just a tactic to force users on board their next console.

Its the nature of console gaming, too controlled with console gamers having little to no rights at all. Hell if Sony closes PS3 online services after PS4 launch there is nothing console gamers can do about it.

JAMurida4357d ago

MAG is barely alive now these days. Domination is only playable early AM hours (CST) when the JP players get on and that only last a few hours. Only thing going on is Sabo or Suppression.

Lucky to get an Interdiction or Acquisition going.

Utalkin2me4357d ago

Kind of ironic i recently put mag back in and got all the updates and restored all my skill points. And OMG i could not kill anybody for nothing, it was quite weird. I used to be beast at that game and i went negative for a few games before finally i quit. Felt like i was doing worse for the team then helping.

It wasn't very populated then, but hate to hear that.

BattleAxe4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )

H-Hour is the new Socom. You can still support the development studio by way of Paypal, and you still get access to all of the Kickstarter rewards, but only until the end of the month.

http://sofstudios.com/index...

H-Hour is set to come out on PS4 and PC.

Corpser4357d ago

@all

MAG was released in 2010, just 3 years ago! You're telling me I should expect online servers to be around for just 3 years?

GasTankKiller4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )

"It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans."

You only see one side of this. Sony sees the stats of how many players are playing on average. No reason to waste server power for a handle full of people. Yes that handle full could be a few thousand but still.

From what I remember during MAGs development. Zipper was given a blank check and setup a server farm for MAG.

No reason to let all those servers go to waste. They will most likely use them for the PS4.

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GameCents4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )

Where's the outrage? They effectively saying that you've been renting MAG all this time. Online only games shouldn't have their servers shut so soon.

HammadTheBeast4357d ago

There's about 200 people on at any time now.... and most from the free demo.

Corpser4357d ago

^^

So? You're perfectly fine an online-only game that people are still playing will be shut down

JAMurida4357d ago

#Corpser

Yes there is a community, but a very small one. It's the same case with White Knight Chronicles 1/2. Both MAG and WKC I've played heavy enough to say they had a very small community that most likely didn't warrant Sony paying the money to keep the servers going for any longer. It sucks, but it happens when it's a case like this.

If anything, I'm more surprised that MAG is being shutdown much later than WKC was. IMO, it should of been the other way around.

Sitdown4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )

Haha, some have no clue of exactly what you just did there. Or am I reading too much into it?

No_Limit4357d ago

In other news, the 2007 X360 online only game, Shadowrun, is still playable on its online server. This show where the priority is for both companies when it comes to online gaming.

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Corpser4357d ago

MAG community is far from dead, why?

And no wonder GameStop has been selling the game used for $0.99. It's an online-only game too

fr0sty4357d ago

It's a shame, I enjoy playing MAG more than just about any other shooter out there. I know many do not agree, as it does have some very obvious flaws, but it's a gem of a game beneath them.

MidnytRain4357d ago

Whoa, a dollar?? Are you serious?

Gridloc4357d ago

That's the only problem I have with digital downloads and multiplayer only games. If they shut the servers down your screwed...

Ray1864357d ago

If it has a lan option you can always use x-link.

fr0sty4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )

I would hope such a service would work for a game like MAG, enough of the community (that is already dwindling) would need to know about that capability, and actually be bothered to want to try using it in order for it to work. I think it's just going to kill the community enough to make the game unplayable, as MAG relies on very large matches.

SIRHC134357d ago

H-Hour. We need you. Deliver the tactical third person shooter goods that we deserve!

MoonConquistador4357d ago

And in a run up to a sequel they should be giving this game away free on PS+ at least, or just make it a free to play game. Its a game I always wanted to platinum but there are never enough people on for domination games etc

Great game though

MidnytRain4357d ago

I do think Sony is expecting PlanetSide 2 to fill the massive shooter niche.

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Former Sony Devs Join New Team

Announced yesterday, a couple of former Zipper developers are lacing up their boots again in preparation to begin working on new tactical shooter, Takedown.

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astroanthony4755d ago

Thoughts of new development team?

SilentNegotiator4754d ago

They're former Zipper employees.

Expectations at minimal, Captain!

SuperBeast8114755d ago

I was looking forward to that game but now that zipper is touching it? I dont know they been making crap for almost 10 years now Socom 1 and 2 are the only thing good they have done

JoeReno4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

i really disagree, Unit13 is still my most enjoyed Vita game yet. it was quite good, and I for one am glad to hear this news.

Sithlord-Gamble4755d ago

My thoughts exactly.

Unit 13 is awesome, and IMO MAG is underrated.

fei-hung4755d ago

I bought Unit13 on release but only started playing it yesterday. I cannot believe how underrated and under appreciated this game is.

This game is not only better than the likes of COD in terms of military shooter, but the stealth gameplay is beautiful! It's like MGS but with a more military feel.

SuperBeast8114755d ago

I dont have a Vita yet so I havnt tried it maybe I spoke too soon I was just really burnt by Socom 4 but Ill try Unit 13 when I have the cash.

ExposingLames4755d ago

i've learned this site is nothing but kiss asses and fanboys so I usually don't even comment anymore. I read the news and leave. Although your comment will be "disagreed" into oblivion it is 100% fact. Its also the reason ZIPPER GOT CLOSED DOWN. I'm sure the lower level workers aren't really to blame, but there is no denying their games and how bad they were and what they did to SOCOM. What a joke. Glad Zipper is gone.

dead_eye4755d ago

opinion can never be 100% fact.

ExposingLames4755d ago

@ dead eye. its not opinion it is fact. go search "sony closes Zipper interactive" it didnt happen because they were making great games.

xursz4755d ago

"Big Huge Games" got shut down as well (I hope they get picked up by a worthy publisher), yet KoA was greatly received. I personally think MAG is definitely underrated too.

t0mmyb0y4755d ago

There's a reason you have so many disagrees XD

doctorstrange4755d ago

"TAKEDOWN will be developed on PC as the lead platform, and then brought to consoles afterwards"

NYC_Gamer4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

I'm happy that Zipper developers found new jobs...

GamingPerson4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

PC is lead platform then consoles coming after.
so the tags are messed up.

I can't wait to see what David Jaffe does on pc unless it's a facebook game.

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UFreqTV's Episode 13 - 2011 Season Wrap up, Newb Tube and Ghost Recon Bullet Points

In this Episode, Jack is joined by Commander Claymore Fury via SatCom as they discuss the 2011 Tournament Season and what is in store for 2012. The Nuketown Hooligans bring a little Modern Warfare 3 Spec Ops tips and Lt. Leadhead brings us Ghost Recon: Future Soldier