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Killzone 3 - Controls Are Everything Developer Diary

Get painfully unfriendly with your adversaries, whether you're up close or far away with the totally revamped control scheme of Killzone 3!

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himdeel5261d ago

...then jumping over cover and over a rocket to stab a dude in the face is EPIC!

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zgoldenlionz5261d ago

Totally! slide cover looks great.

HellzAssassin5261d ago

I AGREE! That was the coolest thing in the entire video. My mouth went like :O. Seriously! KZ3 FTW!!!! \m/^,..,^\m/

beavis4play5261d ago

using thumbs to gouge out an enemies eyes is pretty sweet too!

this game is going to pack SO much awesomeness!

karl5261d ago

i just saw that .. it was GODLIKE!!

hahaha.. i went =OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

ugabugaz5261d ago

OMG OMG OMG OMG!
Can't wait to try it, Bubbles for you.

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MarcusFenixITA5261d ago

after seeing this I can say that the step from KZ2 to KZ3 is like UC1 to UC2 according to nearly every aspects.

DarkSpawnClone5261d ago

I think it may be bigger then that! at least game play wise but yeah my thoughts exactly.this looks amazing i can't wait to pick up my copy!.can't wait to get killzowned on the 22nd!

Cupid_Viper_35261d ago

In all Honesty, can someone please find me an in-game compilation of another FPS that comes close KZ3?

All the other FPS I have played, the gun is basically your head, as in, the only time your head moves independent from the gun, is when you're runing. But in KZ3, it feels like someone attached a camera to a real soldier's helmet and called it a game, as in, the animations is so close to the real thing, just wow.

And please, I'm serious about the question I ask, I really want to see if there are any other shooters out there doing this type of stuff, because if they're not, they need to implement that asap, it immerses you that much deeper into the action going on.

BlackKnight5261d ago (Edited 5261d ago )

Crysis 1 and 2, Bad company 1 and 2, Operation flashpoint 1, Chronicles of Riddick EFBB and AODA.

All these, similar to KZ 2 and 3, have the camera literally attached to the player models head (Crysis 1 and 2 give you the option of making it more old school ala COD, Halo and so on or attaching to the character model). That's all I can remember for now.

And I agree, I LOVE camera attached to the head of the player model, much more immersive, even if it makes it harder to play.

EDIT: Thief 3 and Mirror's Edge are others.

Crysis 1 death cam (which stays on your ragdoll head)on some sort of custom map:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Mirror's Edge, first level:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Chronicles of Riddick AODA:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Cupid_Viper_35261d ago (Edited 5261d ago )

but the crysis vid you put up there is not the best representation of it, I thought the thing was glitching out for a sec, lol. And that's also where KZ3 tops them as well, not only does it uses the camera well, but gives you extras on top of that, like new meles, cover system, (fine tuned it as well) rag doll animation(ballet of death), jetpacks, you're own metal gear (kinda), and the bleeding edge graphics as far as consoles are concerned. And the lighting is improved upon as well.

I remember in another thread, you asked why people thought that KZ3 (looks/or is) better than Crysis 2 on consoles, I know I'm kinda late, but here's my answer, take everything I said up there, and add it to the fact that you can now get all this in 3d, and buy an actual gun for it and play it with Move.

Not trying to start anything, just thought I'd give you my answer to a legitimate question you asked.

BlackKnight5261d ago (Edited 5261d ago )

@Cupid_Viper_3

Yea, that video was crap, that was a 15 second search on youtube. I just wanted to prove the point about the cam-attached-to-head was all. I also mention it was a modded/custom map of some sort, hence the glitch. I have my own video for crysis which I didn't want to peddle. I think it shows how the gun is close to the face when ADS and bobs and even has lean that shows the gun moving around (and the reticule) quite a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And what I was talking about with Crysis 2 vs KZ was graphics in that other discussion. Crysis also has 3D, on all 3 platforms. I was trying to ask what specifically is better. AA method? texture resolution? Real time ambient occlusion? (which KZ2 and 3 do not have) Global Illumination? Motion blur/Object motion blur? HDR?(KZ 2 and 3 does not) Depth of field? (KZ2 and 3 fake it in gameplay, only real in cutscenes, similar to Halo 2/3/Reach). Anyways, that's what I was getting at.

Back to your discussion. Crysis 2 has the grapple melee when cloaked, I don't think it is as varied as KZ3 though. Crysis 1 also had the ability to pick up and carry soldiers as human shields and could throw them as weapons, don't know if that's still possible in Crysis 2.

And the ragdoll animation (similar to any game that uses Euphoria like GTA or Red Dead and so on), jetpacks (Tribes, Halo Reach, Red Faction, etc), and the KZ Exo Mechs (Red faction, FEAR) are not original but do look like they are executed very well. But that's gameplay, which I was just talking about graphics in the other discussion, and here I thought we were talking about how the camera is attached and the character body animation is not "stabilized" as much as other games like COD or Halo.

Thank you for being civil. Highly appreciated in N4G.

Laika5261d ago

@blackknight

sure all those games do it too. but i dont think any of them do it better than kz.

BlackKnight5261d ago (Edited 5261d ago )

@Laika

You don't think? Have you played them? Everything I listed, I have played/own. I own KZ2 as well. Plus, how does a game attach a camera to a player model head better than another?

Oh and Another game that seems to do it well is Brink.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

alphakennybody5261d ago (Edited 5261d ago )

@black knight
the thing is most of the game you mentioned they felt floaty, however in kz you feel the weight of each step. Immersion is I believe is KZ greatest weapon( graphics comes in second), and GG reigns in that department.

Inside_out5261d ago (Edited 5261d ago )

I would say Brink, which was suppose to launch in fall 2010, has the FPS game play dynamic described here down. It helps that it looks incredible as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I think most would say Brink has some interesting game play and looks every bit as good as anything out there right now. It's using the same engine as Rage.

Bulletstorm, while not on the same graphical level as KZ3, still looks great and has the same type of FPS game play mechanic seen in this E3 live SP demo...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

None of this matters if the game play is not tight and KZ3 looks tight. I think they should of went with a third person perspective for the melee attacks to better show off what is happening, like Bungie did with Halo but no biggie. The point is Guerrilla had to make some changes and they did...wait for the release of the game to see if they pulled it off.

I think games that try to diversify there core game play are the games that will bring in the most players. Worth mentioning is Gears trying to bring in some FPS type of mechanics to the TPS genre...like iron sights for the multi-player...looks great as well...NOBODY does melee kills better than Gears...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Laika5261d ago

@ blackknight
i have played all the games you listed except
bad company 1, chronicles of riddick snd theif. and i have seen enough videos of the others to say that, no, i dont think they are better than killzone in regards to animations and being in the first person perspective. mirrors edge is the only one that might be better, but thats debatable

Knuxxx5261d ago

I think you guys are losing sight of the topic. They didn't say graphics were everything, they said CONTROLS(and indirectly gameplay) are everything. The controls on KZ3 IMHO so far are the top of the genera, given they work as good as they look.

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RussDeBuss5261d ago

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

erm, yes. cannot wait :D

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ThatCanadianGuy5261d ago

mmmm..Not long to go now!
2011 has been great for PS3 owners so far.

theonlylolking5261d ago

Dont forget about 2009 and 2010 =)

redsquad5261d ago

Oh lordy, those 'Brutal Melee' kills are going to be a blast!
And, three weapon slots... Way HAAAYYYY!!!

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piroh212d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic211d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23211d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger202d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar778d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor778d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar778d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg777d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149777d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138778d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim777d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC777d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138777d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle777d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76777d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM777d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger777d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca777d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy777d ago (Edited 777d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain777d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright777d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

DSOGaming writes: "While Sony does not plan to release Killzone 3 on the PC, Yahfz shared a video that gives us a glimpse at what such a PC version could look like."

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bouzebbal1528d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1528d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1528d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1528d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1528d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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Vegamyster1528d ago

jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1528d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1528d ago (Edited 1528d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1528d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1528d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1528d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1528d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1528d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1528d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1528d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1528d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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