Guerrilla Not Bothered by Killzone vs. Halo Comparisons

As the PlayStation 3's premier first-person-shooter franchise, Killzone invariably finds itself at the vanguard of the console wars, often compared with Xbox 360 exclusive Halo. Curious as to how this affects developer Guerrilla, Destructoid asked Steven Ter Heide how he feels about the comparisons, and found out that the producer doesn't feel much at all.

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NewsForMe2895d ago

One has better graphics. The other everything else.

WaggleLOL2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

With Bungie having left Microsoft I don't think any really cares anymore. You can see this with the almost complete lack of Halo avatars anymore. It use to be almost every Xbox fan would have one a few years ago.

Killzone 2 enraged 2 Xbox fans because it was a double threat:

1. The first Xbox was often called the Halo box because people said Halo was the only game worth buying the system for. With a console so dependent on a single genre it is obvious its fans would feel compelled to lash out at any game from the same genre on a competing platform to try to justify their own platform.

2. Killzone 2's graphics are running an engine that isn't even possible on the Xbox 360. The gimped 10 megs of EDRAM, the lack of the massive power of the SPUs, the tiny last gen DVD storage format, etc. The game's graphics made a mockery of all the lies and silly claims about the Xbox 360 being in the same league as the PS3 graphically.

I guess after the humiliation of Killzone 2's actual in game PS3 graphics surpassing what the so called 'graphics experts' at silly sites like beyond3d claimed were 'impossible CGI level graphics':


that trying to claim the game is 'just graphics' is a natural reaction.

Despite the rage and unprecedented attempts at trashing the game from Xbox fans in the gaming media, Killzone 2 got its amazing reactions and reviews from:

1. The innovative cover system

2. The incredible enemy AI

3. The immersive gun action - no more arcady Call of Duty style 'weightless gun on stick' action

As far as Halo, what can one say about a game that Bungie and Microsoft had so little confidence in they resorted to giving reviewers 800 dollar 'gift bags'.

Nariko-20112895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

and nonsensical. Thank you
Ps, one can say something else about HALO, can get one's head out of one's rear end and look at the facts. Highest selling and most played exclusive game not on wii.
Best online community.
Killer App
Lastest installment currently holds fastest selling game on a single platform.
Also latest installment outsold rival's highest selling exclusive of the year in less than a day. . .
Oh and Killzone 2 2million or so...Reach 6 million and counting.

units2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

halo reach has both

DigitalRaptor2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

Killzone 2 was pretty much Guerilla's first venture into this generation with a brand new powerhouse of an engine, and the game performed amazingly, but the gameplay was a bit rough and there was definite room for improvement.

Killzone 3 is gonna have improved since then. Yeah sure Bungie have perfected the formula within their own game series, but Killzone still has had room to grow and I guarantee you will be surprised by KZ3 when it ships next year. Heck, KZ2 had better tech than Reach, so right there KZ3 already does. Gameplay wise, don't go underestimating GG.

Just think of it like this. Guerilla had finished KZ2 by February 2009. Since then they have been refining it, building levels, adding features, improving gameplay dramatically, even improving the ground-breaking visuals. Also improving their Multiplayer segment dramatically. Check the MP Beta for more info. They even outsourced a professional writer for their writing (story, dialogue etc.) Everything will be improved. So that's gonna be 24 months of work refining an engine, reworking and improving their gameplay.

Like I said, look to KZ3 in Feb 2011.

dragonelite2895d ago

From what i heard killzone 3 has lost the soul that killzone 2 had with it's unique gun models and behavior.

And i heard the beta kind of clusterfuck no recoil on guns lmg out performing snipers in long distant shots.
it's all i heard.

The beauty of halo is that weapons have roles pistol and AR are close to medium weapons dmr is a allrounder but shines in medium to long range and then the sniper which is the long range weapon.
And halo feels incredible balanced if you get killed close range while using a sniper or dmr it's your mistake should have packed a pistol or Ar with you.

ShinMaster2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

I'm reading your post, but all I see is "HALO has teh sales...blah blah..."

Best online community??? LMFAO xD

(On topic)
GAMEPLAY is different on both.
Even though they're both FPSs, the overall feel is different.
One is has a more realistic feel and gameplay, while the other is somewhat more... light, pick-up and play, arcade-ish.

N4WAH2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

All I have been hearing for the past year plus is how N4G is completely over run by PS3 fanboys. Yet under every PS3 article all I see is trolls and fanboys that have zero interest in the PS3. All I see under Kinect articles is members blowing a gasket and calling you a PS3 fanboy if you have anything but positive opinions about MS's shiny new camera.

I think it's time people stop playing the victim card on this site and realize there are a even amount of disgruntle fans to go around from all sides.

Why must every single shooter article turn into a debate vs Halo? Killzone is not Halo nor is it trying to be or do I want it to be. Personally I am a HUGE shooter fan and I don't care for Halo. Apparently I am not the only one because my friends list is a ghost town for Halo Reach fans yet all of them, like myself, are shooter fans. Halo isn't even the most popular or best selling shooter any more, COD is.

Killzone is unlike most other shooters. I honestly think, although some are not a fan for them doing so, that the new controls will appeal to a wider audience and KZ3 will do a lot better on the sales charts. <- Personally I couldn't give a damn about sales but I am sure GG and Sony will. Plus it gives the nitwits here at N4G another thing to argue over.

There are so many titles coming out for PS3 next year I wont have time to play them all. Now all I have to do is pick up a 3D display and get ready for 2011. Once November 24th hits I don't see myself looking back.

MeatPopsicle2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

"I think it's time people stop playing the victim card on this site and realize there are a even amount of disgruntle fans to go around from all sides"

Oh please...

A good example of just how threatened Xbox/Halo fans are of Killzone 2/3 just look at this post from someone who finally had enough of the Xbox fans at GamesRadar who had spent the entire year leading up to the release of Killzone 2 trying to trash the game in the eyes of the gaming public:

That's just one major gaming website. Similar crap went and still does go on at other gaming sites like eurograme,1up,etc. filled with angry, frightened, and threatened Xbox fans lashing out at Killzone. No major gaming site has ever done anything remotely close to what sites like gamesradar tried to do to Killzone 2. So let's give this everyone does it crap a rest.

The real killer2895d ago

Well said, look at those disagree clicking by 360 fanboys :):):)

bananlol2895d ago

The siper works excellent as a close range weapon as long as you got the nerves and know when to reload. How else would i have gotten a overkill in a tight corridor on the rats nest level with a sniper? And compared to those i usually play halo with im pretty lousy. Havent really played much rach so i dont really know if this has changed but iin halo 3 the sniper was legendary!

DigitalAnalog2895d ago

I just read that neogaf post, and it came to the point I almost vomited to how sickening gamesradar went with their bullsh*t.

-End statement

ShinMaster2895d ago

You're right. That was was disgusting.

nix2895d ago

gamesradar n n4g are same group. fyi.

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N4WAH2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

Your opinion is about as valid as VGChartz numbers.
Why are there so many people like yourself on this site? You obviously have very little interest in gaming and are basically here just to get attention and make an *** out of yourself.

Killzone 2 was a phenomenal sequel considering their first title didn't appeal to me. There are some minor complaints I had about the KZ2 and the new one appears to be not only be addressing all those minor gripes but making additional adjustments I didn't even think about.

I just got into the KZ3 beta a couple days ago and it's fantastic. Graphics, sound, controls, jetpacks, etc... Everything flows so nice. This is easily one of my most anticipated titles of 2011. Then again there are so many titles I am anticipating next year for my PS3's I don't know if I will have time to play them all. I am definitely purchasing all of them though. Starting with GT5 11/24.

iPad2895d ago

One has sales. The other one has everything else.

Motorola2895d ago

very true. Graphics and Good Gameplay ftw.

Hoje03082895d ago

One has a gay green guy shotting purple things with a pink gun. The other one has great atmosphere, interesting antagonists and unique gameplay.
Halo is like COD for ages 3 and up.

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Red_Orange_Juice2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

Killzone 3 is my 2011 FPS, also Resistance and Socom look fantastic. So many top-notch exclusive shooters on ps3.

Neckbear2895d ago

...But don't we have enough Shooters already?

Fishy Fingers2895d ago

If you like shooters, like me, then nope :)

There's plenty of scope within one genre for different experiences and styles.

DigitalRaptor2895d ago

Killzone and Resistance are the only 2 shooters I'm looking forward to next year. I mean actual core shooters.

There are games like RAGE and Deus Ex 3 (which I will be getting) that you can call shooters, but there's something more to them than just shooting.

As for Killzone 3. It's gonna be an absolutely killer game. Sony's highlight of early 2011 alongside LittleBigPlanet 2. Most of, if not all of the faults from KZ2 will be amended, improved and the story will be better with lots more variation. And based on the Multiplayer Beta, it's going to be an absolutely solid MP, to go along with the epic campaign.

It won't have something like Forge World (Halo) but I doubt that would be possible, since the textures are specifically modelled, and I doubt they could be used to create full-on dynamic MP maps.

But I think as a whole package Killzone 3 can certainly compete with and surpass Halo Reach, but both games are completely different, in both look and feel!

AKA2895d ago

you can't miss SOCOM4
it will be a epic game MP.
just make sure to get in a cool clan, it means a lot if you are in one it changes everything.

Chuk52895d ago

Why would they be bothered? Halo is one of the best Fps in the last 10 years. It simply means KZ is that good

M4ndat0ry_1nstall2895d ago

I think a comparison between Killzone and Halo is an insult to Halo. How can you compare a franchise that has virtually no fanbase, no longevity, no real hype, no identity and needed to re-invent it's self because the first game flopped. How can you compare that to a cult classic like Halo?

I mean seriously, it's like using Uwe Boll and Steven Spielberg in the same sentence.

sashimi2895d ago

More like a insult to Killzone, Just cause mostly Americans love Halo doesn't mean its the best game ever.

kaveti66162895d ago

Halo is a good game. Leave it at that. Comparing Killzone to Halo is a compliment to Killzone because Halo is a good game.

duplissi2895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

halo 1,2 and reach are good games... now 3 and odst on the other hand... ugh

as far as the first killzone it was a good game, but what held it back was that it was too technically ambitious for the ps2 and that the enemy dialog was far too repetitive. i loved it but even i can admit that it was a little undercooked.

dead_eye2895d ago

Cult classic. You don't even know what that means. Halo isn't a cult classic. It's a summer blockbuster if anything. It appeals to the masses.

Odin7772895d ago

Killzone 2 didn't really flop, ya know.

ComboBreaker2894d ago (Edited 2894d ago )

Killzone 2 flopped? You're an idiot. Killzone 2 won so many Game of the Year/FPS Game of the Year awards from so many sites and magazines.

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MGRogue20172895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

They aren't bothered because they know that K3 looks 10x better than Halo: Reach, That's why. :)


Zachmo1822895d ago

Yes we all know it looks better....But does that make it the better game NO!!!!

R2D22895d ago

while I snipe a missile in the air and kill some one with a ricochet shot of the bank wall.

ComboBreaker2894d ago

Then you have just wasted hundreds of dollars on your next gen 360 systesm. You spent so much money on your 360 for last gen graphics? Why would you want bad graphics? Might as well played Halo 1 on the Xbox then, and save some money. Halo on the Xbox still have the best gameplay of all Halo games and the graphics of Halo 1 already matched the graphics of Halo 3 anyway.

You're just wasting your money dude.

Anyway, I am going to go look at the grogeous graphics of Killzone 3 while also enjoying the great gameplay that it provides.

Weaksauce11382895d ago (Edited 2895d ago )

Kz2 does have some great detailed generic landscapes and some of the highest textured playable douche bags this gen!

jarrod19812895d ago

but doesnt gameplay matter as well. why all the defensive halo bashing. if halo games were on ps3 it bet it would sell millons and we wouldnt be having these arguments. this fanboy bullshit is so annoying. if kz is so much better why dont near as many people buy it seeing as both consoles are around the same in sales. let me guess, there is so much to play on ps3. well there is about the same on 360. you can only play so much gow3 and uc2.

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