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The one game that PlayStation Move needs, but doesn't yet have

Child Of Eden might be coming to PlayStation, but Move is support is yet to be confirmed. Even if it were, will Move be able to convey the same experience as Kinect?

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Omega45079d ago

I think the main reason it isn't happening is it would just be too time consuming and the game has already been delayed once. They would need to make 3 separate control schemes for one game. They can't just make it a PSEye game cause it uses a lot of 3D tracking like clapping and pulling your arm back so making it a Move game would require a whole new approach.

And theres no way it would give the same experience as without using a controller.

NoBUDI5079d ago

Everything kinect can. . .if that is true, it cannot be a time thing, it would be very simple to port since this game works with kinect

Bigpappy5078d ago

I think it will come to the move eventually. They are just too focused on getting it right on Kinect at the moment. Kinect presents a lot of challenges and especially with all the updates they keep adding.

captain-obvious5078d ago

I dont know what are you PPL talke about
this game already on the PS3 but i sont know if its a move game or not

kneon5078d ago (Edited 5078d ago )

Well the PS Eye can do everything (except 3D) that Kinect can do

Kinect has better 3D tracking. With the PS Eye I expect the only way to detect 3D (without using Move) is to infer the relative position of body parts from the skeletal model and possibly from the relative sizes of body parts. But it will make more mistakes and be less accurate for the 3D positioning than Kinect.

anh_duong5078d ago

it will be coming to the ps3... it's a timed exclusive..

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Pillville5078d ago

"And theres no way it would give the same experience as without using a controller."

Thanks for summing up Kinect.

lightningsax5078d ago (Edited 5078d ago )

Wait, why are we talking about any type of motion control as if it's the main reason why Child of Eden exists? Mizuguchi says right here (edit: Pedrami91 pointed this out below earlier, albeit without the source) that this game wasn't created with Kinect in mind - it wasn't the "lead platform."

http://www.nowgamer.com/new...

Way further back in 2008, before the game was formally announced, James Mielke, special guest starring on The Oddcast, mentioned Project Eden by name. They wouldn't have been working with any 360/PS3 motion control schematics when they started the project.

It was marketed at E3 as a Kinect game due to a great subsidy by Microsoft, and it worked wonderfully if these comments are any indication. Guys, this is the sequel to Rez in all but name (Sega holds the rights to the title). The best gaming experience will be with a controller, just like in the original, as 1up pointed out months ago:

http://www.1up.com/do/previ...

drtyepic5078d ago (Edited 5078d ago )

The article does not. It refers to the fact that Kinect was implemented long after development commenced. The article is a piece about Child Of Eden with regards to new motion control technology as platforms, not just about the game's existence, and the fact that PlayStation Move is yet to have a game that's as well suited to it as Child Of Eden to Kinect. Child Of Eden almost seems created bespoke for Kinect, despite the fact it was not.

I agree with you, in that the game will be great no matter how you play it. I just think it happens to be one title that's very much suited to the Kinect platform.

Redempteur5078d ago

a ray of light ( informations ) in a thread that is bond to good into controllers wars

bananlol5078d ago (Edited 5078d ago )

How do you know its suited for kinect? I believe jumping around would break the amazing immersion that rez created. When i play that game i basically get cut off from the rest of the world, that wouldnt be too great if one was standing up while doing that.

That said implementing move would just require them to change some lines of code and use one of the code packages the ICE team made, so if it makes sense in the context of the game im pretty shure it will have move support.

Edit: Its basically a shooting gallery on lsd so i think moves a given.

lightningsax5078d ago (Edited 5078d ago )

@drtyepic

In the second article I mentioned, the whole "It's gonna be awesome with Kinect" thing is addressed after a gameplay session with both: if you like a theme-park esque music video ride, it's for you, and it'll be fun. If you like one of my favorite games of all time, Rez, and having precise controls that do what you want them to do, use a controller.

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fr0sty5078d ago

pseye picks up clapping and can track your arms a LOT better than you think it can. Use the mesmerize demos for it and you'll see what I mean. the clap can be accomplished by not only it tracking your hands but listening to them. PSeye is a lot more capable than people give it credit for.

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Pedantic915079d ago (Edited 5079d ago )

Strange, seeing as it's being listed for both the PS3 & 360 in several gaming websites.

Interesting tidbit: Kinect is not the lead platform.

NoBUDI5079d ago

You like how R.U.S.E is on PS3 and Xbox 360 but not on kinect even though it's on Move? Yeah, same thing only this time it's on kinect and not move. . .yet

Pedantic915079d ago (Edited 5079d ago )

But i still think it's going to work with the move, maybe not at first, but with a move patch later on.

Nicaragua5078d ago

theres no reason it cant be on move, if it works on a pad then it can work on move.

Kinect controls games games but movement in space across X, Y & Z axis, move can track movement in those axis - shouldnt be a problem at all.

Genecalypse5078d ago

I always assumed it would use both Move and Kinect, I dont mind using the controller, thats how it was in rez atleast

Quagmire5078d ago

Whilst I believe Kinect is a better suited experience for this game, not having Move integration is somewhat disturbing.

green5078d ago

According to some people on N4G who speak like they are actually game developers, the PSeye can do everything that Kinect can do. So it should not be a problem for Child of Eden not to have controller free support for the PS3 as well.

bananlol5078d ago

If its anything like rez controller free gaming would be a bad idea.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

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Knightofelemia975d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog974d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69974d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming974d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79974d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember974d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog974d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop974d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic974d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop973d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10974d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar974d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10974d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell974d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10974d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72974d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming974d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog974d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming974d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming974d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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