What the hell is Microsoft up to?

In what is becoming a worrying trend from Microsoft, the company failed to announce any new exclusives for the Xbox 360 at Gamescom in Cologne last month. After a lacklusture and virtually entirely Kinect based E3 showing, it seemed Gamescom, the second largest gaming industry show in the West, would be the perfect place to announce a couple of new exclusives for 2011. However, it was not to be and with Tokyo Game Show being the last major gaming exhibition this year, many gamers are left wondering what the hell Microsoft is actually up to.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Fable III
Halo: Reach
Kinect Adventures
Kinect Animals
Kinect Joy Ride
Kinect Sports

[PS3XBOX360WII]

Gears of war 3

[Shadow Flare]

Gears is made by epic not microsoft

[gtsentry]

ownedd

[captain-obvious]

lol @ that pic

[DasBunker]

if sony had only KZ, resistance and WKC announced i bet teh sonyz doomed articles will be rolling all day.. but since this is MS its alright

[UltraNova]

@ ALFAxD

Oh , now I see why the price increase on Live, its because of MS's content overflow!

Yeah right..

In any case it looks that the xbox 3 is on its way a lot sooner than we think.

Well the lack of pretty much everything hardcore from MS only leads to the obvious, they are prepping for a new system launch.

[STIINGRAYS]

You might want to read the post again "announce any new exclusives for the Xbox 360", it didn't say anything about them coming directly from Microsoft. And besides that, All the 360 exclusives have already been announced, so why complain about it. They're already mentioned the major ones: Halo Reach, GoW3, Fable 3.
The majority of 360 gamers only care about halo and Black Ops. Its like when MW2 came out, games got pushed back and what not

[ReservoirDog316]

It was kinda an underwhelming list last year too. I only bought the GTA Episodes on a disk last year.

[pustulio]

I really would like that MS suddenly drops a bomb of exclusives or new IPs.

But as all of us already know is not gonna happen.

:/

[bjornbear]

not much apparently

=/

anybody disagree, please enlighten me

[FragMnTagM]

All great games. If you don't like them, well that is an opinion. Doesn't mean other people won't enjoy them.

Just like I will be playing Killzone 3 when it comes out. I don't care about Grant Turismo 5, not even in the slightest, but apparently that is a huge game to the rabid Playstation fans.

Why is it so hard to accept that people enjoy playing games on platforms that you guys don't? Does it really bother you that much that you have to spend nearly every waken moment bashing another system you don't happen to like?

I just found a friend on Facebook that I haven't talked to in around 7 years. Him and I both are true gamers. Over the course of the weekend, we have played on the PS3, Wii, XBOX, PC, and played some old school games via ROMS, MAME, Genisis, and SNES.

We had a blast. We would certainly not had as much fun if we had only stuck to one platform. Also, most of the games (especially the "AAA" games) on PS3 do not support two players on the same console.

I don't comprehend the fanboy mindset. You are the true losers that miss out on a lot of great game experiences.

[Shadow Flare]

That's a hell of a portfolio lol

[iPad]

Counting their money and ripping off their consumers.

Didn't Microsoft say that XBL will have more features later this year at NO EXTRA CHARGE?

[pippoppow]

MS hardly gives anything back to their gamers. They add apps and service though. They seemed to have lulled gamers into thinking apps and services are more important than games this gen. Amazing.

They have the gull to charge even more for an online service that should allow gamers to play for free. 360 gamers need to wake up. MS is fleecing you hard in so many ways.

[FragMnTagM]

maybe because just one game that is coming out this year will take up at least half a year to fully play and complete it until I get the slightest bit tired of it. Hell, when Killzone 3 comes out, I will still most likely be playing Reach. I will be doing the midnight launch thing for Killzone, but I doubt it will hold my attention as long as Reach will. Not a huge Gears fan, so we'll see on that. Also, there are a crapload of multiplat titles coming out that rival or surpass exclusive games.

You guys should find something else to do with your time, besides bashing a console you don't own or will never own because of your extreme hatred for no apparent reason. I, for one, will not let my dislike of a console or their practices from letting me play awesome games.

[FuturePerfect]

'Kinect Microsoft' (you got to collect as much money as you can within a minute just using your arms to wave about collecting Dollar signs) :D

[CaJuaLFeatPuFF]

Mini Games Don't Count.

[MikeGdaGod]

uh oh.....don't tell them that

[Cueil]

that's what they are up to... they're just trying to make money

[bustamove]

They're focusing on way too any Kinect games and not enough hardcore games. It's pretty sad actually.

Oh, and the whole ripping off consumers too.

[Denethor_II]

Can't believe you pulled the double face palm out.

[PeterGriffinSays]

It's still exclusive you twat.

[Mastodon]

Obviously it isn't as you got 16 disagrees... I love this site...

[ExplosionSauce]

I think he means that Epic is a third party studio, not first. So Gears doesn't exactly count.
I think it should probably count even so.

[Socrates]

Yeah, you are right, it's not exclusive because Microsoft isn't making it. /s

Why the fck would it not count? It can only be played on the 360 and it is a huge title. Microsoft is funding the game and it doesn't matter who is making it. All that matters is that it's exclusive to the 360.

[moparful99]

Well the title of the article does say "what the hell is microsoft up to" So technically speaking leaving off gears 3 is a legit move due to the fact that epic is a third party company..

[xAlmostPro]

you forgot increasing the price of live and selling the new amazing controller xD

[ingiomar]

The new controller is a great value you get a play and charge kit with it which is normaly $20

[dragon82]

It is a great deal for both but what about the people who want to buy ONLY the controller??? They are forced to pay a higher price because it comes with a P&C kit. It is just plain stupid how much Microsoft is ripping us off for this shit. I would gladly buy th enew controller but I don't need another P&C kit. I already have two of them.

[-SIXAXIS-]

The P & C kit is a ripoff in the first place. MS could've gone the same route as Sony, and just used a standard USB cable to play and charge.

[ExplosionSauce]

Play & Charge should be free. I didn't have to pay for my DS3 controller to recharge while playing.

[Socrates]

Yeah and when your battery dies in your PS3 controller it's a pain in the ass.

[moparful99]

Guess what pal my sixaxis that was included with my launch model ps3 60 gig is still holding a charge.. This "When your battery dies its a pain in the ass to change" excuse is weak sauce and you know it. Lithium batteries are very reliable and last for a long time especially if you charge them properly.. For example I have a pelican charge stand that I bought for 12 bucks that not only looks great but it has a smart charge feature that stops charging the battery when its fully charged as to not overcharge and harm the life of the battery.. Or those people can buy a 10 ft or even 15 charge cable for less then the play and charge kit and still never have to hassle with AA batteries ever.. You cant honestly sit here and tell me that having to use AA batteries in a controller is an advantage over an internal rechargeable battery.. If this is what you think then its obvious why you like the 360...

[FragMnTagM]

what do you do when your battery is no good? You have to take apart your controller and reinstall one. Most people don't know how to do that. Snapping a battery off and replacing it with a fresh one is pretty damn simple. Besides, who wants to be 3 ft. away from their TV when their controller is charging? I know, USB extension, but still sucks that Sony only gives a 3 ft. charging cable. WTF is up with that?

[FragMnTagM]

Look, you bought a charging station that normally costs thirty bucks compared to the 20 dollar PNC kit. The PNC kit that is being discussed, uses a rechargable battery pack, not AA batteries. Even if you did use AA battery pack, you could just use rechargeable AA batteries in it. This is a weak ass arguing point for both sides and should just be given up.

Both sides have to spend extra money to have an ideal charging solution. With the PS3 it is a longer cord or a charging station. With the 360 it is either rechargeable AA batteries, a charging station, or the PNC kit. I don't understand why this would be a huge deal unless you are a broke ass gamer.

[ExplosionSauce]

You're trying to hard. The battery hasn't died in 4 years and still going strong.

[lowcarb]

I hate getting into this debate but will the Sony fanboys seriously stfu. MS is obviously focused on the next couple of months and not ready to announce anything pre Kinect, Reach, and possibly gears3 releases. Just because Sony suckers you guys into believing the grass is greener does not and I repeat does not mean they have any better offerings. Year after year they announce a bunch of games and almost everything worth waiting for gets pushed back a couple of years. This has nothing to do with Sony but the fact that MS is attacked for not showing things until a more realistic time frame is given just goes to show how silly and biased it is here. What get's me as annoying is the fact that you always here the guys whining about something 360 related and none of you even want one or care for it to begin with. For once I would like to hear some people talking about games and not these people with hate agenda's who think there correct and smarter than people who don't share the same opinions. All of this hating and spitefulness (over the past)will not help Sony pass 360.

[Whoooop]

How many times have we heard/read the same crap about MS showing the games later??? MS has no commitment in offering content like they did when they released the console.

Every year is the same sh*t... Halo, Fable, Gears and Forza. All other games that defined the 360 went multi like Bioshock, GTA4 DLC, ME2 now... Bungie and Activision deal.

Every company's goal is to make money, but MS it doing it now without offering much content.

I understand that saying the same thing gets tiresome, but playing the "MS is waiting to show games later" card is laughable at best, because that BS is ridiculous already.

[Bell Boy]

Odd but when the ps3 1st launched the multitude of 360 gamers on this very site were in my face on practically every thread to inform ps3 owners it was a movie player, the waitstation, doomed etc, etc

Now of course as a ps3 owner my cup overflows with games that are out, launching and announced and what now of the 360 fanboys....they whine that all their threads are full of ps3 owners gloating at the lack of games MS are now announcing..lol

Why not listen to your last fm, while tweeting each other from your 360 that you are about to host a Kinect party and post video to your facebook...what fun you have to look forward to if your only console is a 360

[thewhoopimen]

I dunno man... MS can only run on empty news for so long. They've had 6 months to come up with new developments. I maybe wrong but I think they're really tapped out this gen.

[Makidian]

You have almost no idea how the game industry works do you? Microsoft focusing solely on Kinect is stupid because they are literally putting all of their eggs in one basket and banking on it to take off like the Wii. They are isolating their primary consumer and the ones that helped them take off this gen and if they continue to pursue that avenue they will fail hard. You say you want people to talk about the games and that's what people want to talk about, but the problem is Microsoft isn't announcing any. It's great that they have some good exclusives coming out for the rest of the year but what is there to look forward to next year for the gamers who helped give Microsoft an 'in' this gen? At this point the answer to that question is nothing at all.

[jessupj]

Well from where I'm sitting I'm swinging in so many games on my PS3 right now it's hard to breath, and if that wasn't enough there's about to be a tsunami of amazing exclusives headed my way.

I look over to the 360 camp and I can't help but feel sorry for you all, the hardcore players anyway. You bought the console to play amazing games but all microsoft is doing now is shoving the Kinect down as manyl throats as possible before the casuals release how limited it is. Microsoft have almost completely abondoned their hardcore customers. The ONLY decent exclusive you have coming any time soon is Reach. That's it! just one game!

How long can 360 fanboys keep making up excuses for micrsoft when it's dam obvious they've not only been thrown out but spat on as well? How long?

[The Lazy One]

You weren't a member here when the PS3 launched.

[insomnium]

MS has been touting "it's all about games" for the past 5 years. They have taken jabs and called out Sony on several occasions for whatever reason. Now they are going against their own word and making a total 180 degree turn by swiching to casual market and abandoning their 40+ million install base in the process. Where are the games now?

What in the world are the hc-supporters (the ones who laughed at Sony for years) to think when MS pulls this kind of a stunt on them. Well the jokes on you really. Noone forced you to bash Sony for "teh no games" and "teh delaystation". All these bitter tears just make the victory that much sweeter imo. I told you so.

@the lazy one

Neither were you right?

[Socrates]

Insomnium, you are full of crap. The PS3 fanboys were hating on the 360 before it was even released and the hate has been consistent ever since then.

This mythology about the innocent PS3 owners being ruthlessly attacked by 360 fanboys is so ridiculous because anybody can go and read the old articles and see for themselves that the PS3 fanboys were doing their fair share of hating on the 360.

Lowcarb is right anyway. PS3 fanboys always act like the PS3 lineup is so amazing, yet every year I look at the lineup and many of the games are mediocre and others are pushed back.

As for the games that actually get released I have been more satisfied with what the 360 has been offering than the PS3. For all the hype coming from PS3 fanboys very few PS3 games interested me this year. GOW3 and Heavy Rain are the only games that interested me on the PS3 this year.
The 360 has had a very solid lineup of great games this year.
Metro 2033
Mass Effect 2
Alan Wake
Splinter Cell Conviction
Fable 3
Halo Reach
There are other games too, but those are the ones that really interested me on the 360.

[insomnium]

Go back and check. Please do. It's ALWAYS been the x360 fanboys or MS themselves who has thrown the first stone. I know since I was here when it happened. Here's something for you to chew on:

It's all about the games --> here's Kinect.

HD-DVD is the future --> DDL is the future (before the addon was even 3 months old in europe iirc).

LOL PS3 has mandatory installs --> Here's Forza 3.

DVD is fine --> Here's Forza 3.

HDMI is irrelevant --> Here's a new sku for the same price WITH HDMI (FU early adopters).

100% experience with Arcade model --> Here's Forza 3.

Do you know who Aaron Greenberg is? Have you ever heard him talk? Before that it was the "you know things brake"-guy who went to EA.

There's nothing but bs that's been pouring down on Sony's neck by MS or the media for the first 4 years of PS3s lifecycle. Nothing you say can make that go away. If you find me an article where there was unjustified bashing of the x360 a few years back I could find you a dozen articles where PS3/Sony is bashed with unjustified claims to counter it. The timeframe is 2005-2008. OK....GO!

btw if you had games this year what about 2009 and 2011? You seem to forget about 2009 entirely and 2011 doesn't seem to be any better. Unless you change your ways and start telling me how you just love dance central. And to make matters worse your 2010 lineup is 99% multiplatforms. You get like what 3 exclusives? Pfft!

You can't tell people the x360 is good and back it up with multiplatform games. That's just pathetic.

You disagreed? OK then prove me wrong.

[Socrates]

The bias dripping from every line in your comment is astounding.

-"Go back and check..."

I HAVE checked. You are lying about what went down. It's all there recorded in the articles and in the forums for anybody to see for themselves. PS3 fanboys were not the innocent victims you make them out to be. Besides, this didn't start this generation. Last generation playstation fanboys bashed the Xbox like crazy.

"It's all about the games..."

As I already pointed out, the 360 has had a great lineup of games this year and has a huge library of games in general.

"HD-DVD is the future..."

Nobody knew whether HD-DVD or Blu-ray would win the format war, which is why it was the right choice to go with DVD at the time.

"LOL PS3 has mandatory installs..."

Are you really going to compare the extreme case of Forza 3 to the countless PS3 games that require mandatory installations?

First of all Forza 3 doesn't have a true "mandatory install" because it doesn't force you to install the game in order to boot and run the game.

The point is that mandatory installs are common on the PS3 and they are truly "mandatory" in the sense that you cannot even play the game until you complete the installation process.

"DVD is fine ..."

DVD IS fine for this generation. 99% of games fit just fine on a DVD, including huge games like Fallout 3 and Red Dead Redemption. The few exceptions to this rule can simply use multiple discs, which is really no big deal.

"HDMI is irrelevant..."

Component passes a HD signal just fine. When HDMI became more common Microsoft added it to every 360.

"100% experience with Arcade model..."

You can still play Forza 3 just fine with an arcade model. They could have just released that extra content as DLC and people that haven't bought a hard drive would still be unable to play it.

"Do you know who Aaron Greenbueg is?.."

Yep, I've read his statements and they sound exactly like the kinds of statements Sony execs make. All company spokespersons get paid to talk up their products. PS3 fanboys are either too immature or too naive to understand that. The things Sony spokespeople have said are no different than what Aaron Greenburg has said.

"There's nothing but bs that's been pouring down on Sony's neck..."

Yeah right. The 360 has received plenty of criticism from the media. What you call Sony bashing was in many cases legitimate criticism from journalists with justified concerns. Just as it was justified for Microsoft to receive criticism for the early hardware failures it was also justified for Sony to be criticized for the exorbitantly high price tag of the PS3 and other snafus. Of course since you are a Sony brand whore no criticism of the holy PS3 could ever possibly be justified.

"btw if you had games this year what about 2009 and 2011?..."

We don't know everything that will come out next year. I already know at least two big 360 games that I have my eye on: Gears of War 3 and Crytek's Project Kingdoms.
The 360's 2009 lineup wasn't as strong as its 2010 lineup is, just like the PS3's 2010 lineup isn't as good as its 2009 lineup was. Every console will have stronger and weaker years.

[moparful99]

OHH wow you are officially my new pet. You are so full of crap that i'm gonna get you a roll of toilet paper to hang off your chin. First of all I was here in the begining and yes it was brutal to be a ps3 fan. [url- http://n4g.com/news/31285/m...
That was an article about the ps3 launch in france. Not only did microsoft pull a rather childish stunt but the comment section is full of anti ps3 sentiment. Just look at mart@xboxkings post.. He was one of the first notorious trolls and he was about as anti ps3 as I have seen...
Next you claim the ps3 has countless mandatory installs.. [url= http://www.cheapassgamer.co...
35 games to date with mandatory installs.. Yea thats countless. FAIL.

EDIT: By the way sony has consistently announced exclusives.. Ever since 2007 there has never been a shortage of exclusive announcements out of sony. Your "only x amount of games are even remotely interesting to me on the ps3" BS does nothing to alter the fact that sony focuses on pumping out game after game.. Quality is relative, which sony has a high average metacritic score out of the big 3... So not only is sony churning out a larg number of games they have an average higher quality to them.. SO yet again you did nothing but expose your bias.. Nuff said.

[baodeus]

@moparful99

I don't get why you need to use AA batteries? Can't you buy like $20 worth of lithium rechargeable batteries (in a case of 10 or 20) for the controllers? You guys kick back and forth about the controllers, but never though of other solutions haven't you. Yes there are other available option that are cheap. It is almost like buying $60 monster cable when you can get a $6 cable that does the same thing. If you buy into what MS or Sony offers and getting rip off for not looking around first (please use the F#$#$#$ internet), then you guys deserved it.

Stop arguing about the controllers already, go talk about game instead. I swear, you dumb fanboy just have to find anything to argue over why your console is superior. Oh, sorry, i forgot i'm still on N4G. Nevermind, keep it up guys. You guys are doing great.

[gamer2010]

@moparful99

Yes it was supposedly so brutal to be a PS3 fan back then. Even though the article you linked to shows that to be completely false. That's like the best article you picked to make your point and it looks like there are a nearly equal number of PS3 fanboys and 360 fanboys going back and forth. In fact, the agree/disagree ratio on the comments seems to slightly favor the pro-PS3 point of view. It definitely doesn't look like it was hard to be a PS3 fan back then.

Ps3 fanboys are so delusional that to them unless the site is completely overrun and dominated by PS3 fanboys it is brutal to be a PS3 fan, hahaha. Nevermind the fact that there just as much anti-360 sentiment back then.

[shadyiswin]

The xbox doesn't need exclusives morons, sure it would great but to be honest the xbox outsells sony almost 2:1 on multi platforms games.On top of that the Halo gears fable and forza, your tired of hearing those same few but people aren't tired of buying them.Microsoft is focusing on Kinect and they should its a system seller.Just wait for the numbers on call of duty, or find the numbers for Madden, you fan boys like to make it like microsoft should be worried, they know what there doing, its there second console and there owning the Ps3 on older technology.You guys should be happy microsoft is playing it respectable just like my yankees they could buy any player they want but they sit back and relie on what has been working.Microsoft could buy any gaming studio and launch an assault

[outrageous]

Yeah M$, we know you KILLED it this year and made the PS3 look like the Wii with silly games like God of " no multi-player and DLC " War and Heavy " no gameplay " Rain. But what do you have next year. We don't want to talk about this year because...well...you kicked everyone in the A$$ and still have Halo Reach and Fable 3 still to come...lol.

I love these articles. There as bad as hearing about games that are coming in 2012...who cares. The first part of 2011 are top heavy with Crysis, Ghost Recon, Bodycount, Bulletstorm, KZ 3, and of course Gear Of War 3 leading to E3 2011 where the truth will be unveiled.

The only guys crying about this are the guys that have nothing to play right now....Hmmmm...who might that be.

[n4gno]

Denial donkeytroll spotted :)

Ps3 is dominating software and hardware since more than 2 years, and 2010/2011 is even worse for fanboyz like you, i'm not telling you have no game to play, like old xbox trolls in 2006 (you have multiplatforms), but don't live in your opposite world ("nothing to play" "look like wii", when we have all the goty, all the best exclusives, and even the best xbox's ones now), sony is kicking ms butt really hard, and it would have been a fact even with a working kinect (but with move delivering, 3d, and best exclusives : more variety, more games, and best graphics, the competition is dead, even worst than last year)

"Just because Sony suckers you guys into believing the grass is greener"

it's not sony, they are not spending money on marketing like ms (only chance to survive = brainwashing), it's just the reality, the grass is greener since a longtime now, hardware, software, free online, inovation : no competition.

"Looks like somebody doesn't like the fact the 360 is outselling the PS3"

oh my...hallmart (and all multi accounts, like the braindead low carb) are really incredible :) come on, what did you say when, months after months (since the beginning !), ps3 was outselling xbox worldwide (+4 millions last year !), it's not because xbox slim and rrod replacement for brainwashed us players give you the impression xbox is alive (in US !), that xbox will outsell ps3 next months/years..
By the way, even if the sells are great for bad stuff, it's not good for gamers, or even for you (perhaps for your self-estime : being always wrong it's probably hard to accept), so why are you expecting better sells for inferior hardware, motion controlers, games ? are you just dumb, or have you financial interest in ms failure ?

[madpuppy]

"The only guys crying about this are the guys that have nothing to play right now....Hmmmm...who might that be."

360 gamers?

[Jazz4108]

what. I find funny is the only ones complaining about ms's library are ps3 fans. Why should you even care. I have plenty to play on my 360 and have almost nothing to play on my ps3 but I don't yell it to everyone who will listen. Please go back to installing something and leave the 360 gamers alone as we are not the ones complaining about lack of games as I have plenty to play on my 360 and ps3 so please just leave and go back to your onesided hell.

[madpuppy]

complain about the 360 having no games? that would be an admission that MS has dropped the ball, and to a fanboy speaking badly of the object of their fanboyism is kryptonite.

[insomnium]

LOL that is so true. Bubbles for the laugh. I just love to watch people in denial. Even more so when it was THEM who started the entire pissing contest by trying to destroy Sony and PS3 with their bs articles and comments when the PS3 was launched. They had it coming for years and that's why this victory is so sweet!

@jazz

Were you here complaining about a "onesided hell" when x360 fanboys had a field day every day 3 years ago?

Additionally you cannot say you have nothing to play on your PS3. There is almost nothing as an exclusive on x360 and if you buy the multiplats on x360 then it really isn't the PS3s fault now is it? You would still need to be a blind fanboy if you can't find it's exclusives any good. That simply cannot be the truth otherwise.

[Cyrax_87]

"There is no victory you stupid moron. PS3 is in last place and the rest of the nonsense you spew is delusional crap."

Rofl, fanboy much? Unlike the original xbox, Sony won't suddenly stop supporting the PS3 and drop out of the "console war". The PS3 will go on and sell 100 million consoles just like the PS1 and PS2. You'd have to be high on horse tranquilisers if you don't think this is a victory for Sony.

"The 360 has lots of positives and doesn't deserve the constant hate. The 360 has a much, much larger library of games. It has more games rated above 90, above 80, and above 70."

And how much of these are mini arcade games or multiplats? For games rated 90 and above, I counted 6 xbox exclusives (Gears 1 and 2, Halo 3, ME1, Forza 2 and 3). For Sony I counted 7 exclusives (U2, LBP, MGS4, MLB10 and 11, KZ2 and GoW3).

[Karum]

Gears 1 wasn't a 360 exclusive.

[Redgehammer]

I know its off subject, but I am happy to see the proper subject-verb agreement in the title of the article.

[doa766]

I don't care about sales data, discounts, subscriptions, social networking with other gamers through a console, mini games aimed at kids, facebook on a console, visual chat thorugh a console or any of the other secondary stuff

and that's why Sony and Nintendo are miles ahead of Microsoft in regards to gaming

with games like Metroid Other M, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Goldeneye, Epic Mickey, The Conduit 2, Samuria Warrioirs and Zelda Skyward Sword the Wii has become more hardcore oriented than the 360

and that's just hilarious

[shadyiswin]

The Wii is ahead of xbox gaming wise? The Wii is garbage lol, no sport games worth buying, no racing games, no shooters.They will always have there Zelda, Mario and Metroid, that just isn't enough for me.This is gamecube part 2 boy did that suck watching games I wanted go to other systems.It's 10x worst on Wii.Also what's with idea that Sony is outselling Xbox on the software front? The last time sony had a number one game was god of war or final fantasy 13....months ago, madden or/and mafia 2 were number 1 just last week, only wii has better software sales because of it's huge install base, but don't get it twisted xbox is outselling ps3 almost 2:1 in software, this is just one website dominated by sony fan boys who start to believe each other after a while, despite all the numbers showing xbox is killing now, even outselling the DS month, and now the wii every week since the last week of july.The ps3 is in last lol not by much but last is last the xbox won't be in last till they ready a new console.No worries I will come back and taught these articles after you guys are proved wrong week after week.

[mcstorm]

M$ have stated that the end of this year is all about the lunch of kinect there are enough games coming out before the end of the year to keep the main xbox fans going until the first 3 months of next year so it will give them chance to push the first gen of games towards the none xbox owners then through out 2011 you will see a mix of games for both gamers and non gamers and they will both be on and off of kinect. Plus if you all remember m$ said that when they pulled xbox live 1 this was to make rom for more expansion on xbox live so this will happen too.if ms were going to release a new console soon we would not be seeing the new xboxs or the up dated controller. I think this move by ms is a smart one as they are opening the 360 up as a family and core gamer platform where sony are giving out mixed messages about the ps3 n move. I think 2011 will be a big year for ms and they will shock alot of people too

[Makidian]

How is the Move sending mixed messages? Seriously, that doesn't make any sense, please enlighten me.

[DatNJDom81]

Failing.

[insomnium]

Sure jazz. There is an optional install on GT5. So? You would be so right if the install was mandatory. Too bad for you it's not. Better luck next time mkay?

Come on jazz. You've been here since 2006 and you don't understand why bashing MS according to their latest stunts is justified. You must be pretending not to understand am I right? Either that or you are in denial. I'm sorry for you. You backed up the wrong horse. I bet you were among the first people to bash anything relating to Sony or PS3 3-4 years ago. Are you denying it? Do I have to go check your comment history for proof?

[nickjkl]

alfa yoiu just dont know

http://verydemotivational.f...

TIPLE FACE PALM

[Sarcasm]

What are they up to? Did the $10 price hike not tell you enough? They're up to nothing scratching their heads.

[kingdavid]

Microsoft's brain trust.

"Hmm somehow we arent making money anymore."

"Sir? Maybe its because we arent making any decent exclusives and we don't own any first party studios to make new games"

"Nope, definitely cant be that. Raise the prices of XBL by 10 dollars, thatll get em."

[rezzah]

Dont forget the next 10+ Halo games D=

[GMWPS3]

They've increased X-box live so now they need a way to increase games to something like their other software. If MS ever dominates the console business we would be looking at a game going for $100 - $200. Sadly only Sony seems to be pushing value in the game industry the rest are solely profit driven. I mean, come on, eve the Wii should have been in HD.

[Odin777]

@ Fragmntagm The problem isn't that their exclusives won't be good (except the Kinect games) the problem is that there isn't very many. I'll use the same argument you use. You say you're interested in Killzone 3 but not Gran Turismo (only for sony fanboys as you say ha ha) and I see nothing wrong with that but apply that to Microsoft. I personally don't give a rat's ass about Halo: reach, call me a fanboy or whatever, but I just have no interest. So now I don't have much else to choose from except Fable III and Gears. Not everyone is going to like those games so its good to have a plethora of exclusives to choose from.

[Hallmark Moment]

Looks like somebody doesn't like the fact the 360 is outselling the PS3. After 6 years the same exclusive drivel shows its ugly head yet the 360 always has great games. With Gears Of War releasing so early in 2011 I bet MSFT is going to have an Ace in the hole for late 2011 with Crytek's Kingdoms

[Shadow Flare]

You're not bothered that no new 360 games were announced at e3 or gamescon then? You seem quite happy that Microsoft is now fully focused on kinetc

[TheLeprachaun]

Why would I not like that fact? I have no commitment to either console neither do I have a personal preference of one over the other. I'm simply discussing the fact that Microsoft's line up of core exclusives for the next year is extremely poor and trying to figure out why that might be.

[kasasensei]

Looks like Hallmark Moment is totally broken and happy to buy only 2 brand new games for 2011. I can understand that, it is "recession" after all.

[Jazz4108]

based on every year so far ms always delivers as many exclusives as sony.quit worrying about ms as were not worried as gamers. The only ones that should care are the people that game on that console and they are not worried as ms always delivers and never announces there full lineup early. Quit trolling and padding your agrrees and disagrees for your boyz as you guyz look the trolls big time and guess what u are. I would be worried about the install station and its f inferior os. Also ms has the best windows ever created and they are looking rreally strong right now.

[gtsentry]

crytek kingdoms or AGENT hmmm...wile u THINK microsoft has aces in the hole for nex year sony has several n counting

[acky1]

just had to say that since some playstation idiot said gears is made by epic further up the comments list as if that means it doesnt count as an exclusive.

[Biggest]

The question isn't "Where are the 360 exclusives?" It's about what Microsoft is/isn't doing. Don't be sad about Playstation idiots. They'll start listing all of the PS3 exclusives and it'll only make you cry more.

[acky1]

Yeh, it really makes me cringe when fans start listing all the exclusives, even if they didn't like some of them...but then it's worse when they start listing and miss a great game out.

Everyone already know's what games have been released and what games are coming out so theres no real need to keep restating it... unless someones is being a douche and needs to be reminded that both systems have some fun games.

[Why o why]

sad sad lost little dude. Your comments harm the polk audio brand. Why dont you just have a picture of an xbox and some lube

OT

it seems MS are shifting their focus towards the super casual a little more than sony are. From the dashboard change to the miis to all this kinect stuff it seems the wii money has swayed their direction. Games and studios are meant to increase per year not decrease.

[pippoppow]

MS with the help of their media buddies has trumpeted sales figures due to how well MS has done this gen. I do not remember sales figures being thrown around like it has this gen.

MS is good at marketing. They even have their fanatics claiming sales are an exclusive.

[mrv321]

Especially on a sales argument Sony won this gen :P I mean just look at the PS2, 150 MILLION sold, sure it was released first but still.

Wouldn't it funny it PS2 outlasts the 360.

[lowcarb]

So if Sony were actually doing something other than announcing games this gen and winning in sales it would be relevant? You guys and all those that agree with you are sad and just can't accept Sony's fate this gen. For 5 years I've been hearing how PS3 will pass 360 but now it appears the reality has finally set in and now the argument is who can announce the most games even with nothing to show or being near ready. I expect silence from you guys every npd and only trash talk when Sony and the media deceive you.

[Why o why]

you make yourself look like a bit of a plonker with all of that gas. 1st of all the ps3 hasnt been out for five years and only a plonker would listen to somebody saying whatever youre claiming before it's release. Secondly what do you get for MS being in second....Kinect, less exclusives year on year, an xbl price hike and zero money/shares/stocks. Some 360 fans speak about sales more than ps3 fans...yourself included. I remember when you guys used to laud graphics and exclusives.......*shrugs* what happened...now you have sales and halo. Remember the gap that you prey shrinks less is actually closing....you know what Ill personally get if the ps3 does overtake the 360....Diddly squat because im just a punter to them and i actually know this. You need to get some of that spillage from around you mouth side as I'd have more respect for ya if you brought gaming talk like graphics and exclusives to the table instead of the fanboy holy grail of teh salez.....pretty pathetic

'I expect silence from you guys every npd' lol and i guess you'll be expecting a cheque too. Hope you enjoy your exclusive NPD's ...i hear its up for game of the year ¬_¬

[lowcarb]

I don't need to get hyped up and talk about exclusives two years away. Right now it's all about Reach and Kinect so go ahead and deny whats really going on. sales are important and what I find extremely funny is how now you guys all ignore them. Did I touch a sensitive spot lol? We've been over the graphics talk again and have different opinions on it. You can't force somebody to agree on graphics or best exclusives but you can rub in there faces sales and the fact that more people choose one over another for a reason. Some of you Sony guys are the definition of pathetic so watch your mouth.

[Why o why]

double

[Why o why]

triple

wtf....

[Shadow Flare]

X3 combo!!!

-level up!-

[TechnicalBS]

I hope you're right. After the release of Reach, the only other big exclusive title will be Gears, but even with such a big exclusive, the 360 is seriously lacking exclusive games.

I'd rather have games than Kinect or Move.

[NYC_Gamer]

why should non-stock holders care?we buy consoles for games not sales data

[Cueil]

the stock holders want Microsoft to dump the brand

[dragon82]

Thats because it doesn't make any money for them. If Xbox was in first place it might be different but getting ass raped by Nintendo probably isn't cutting it for them. And lets all be honest here, Xbox 360 will end up in last place by the end of this generation. There is no way Microsoft is going to keep the 360 on the market as long as Sony is going to keep the PS3 on the market. This means that no matter what the the gap is when Xbox 3 comes out the PS3 will eventually overtake it.

[Jazz4108]

Ard the same bs spewi heed from all sony boners last year at this time and the year before and guess what like always ms always comes out with games and next year when they announce them they will be no diffrent. Ms always has a game to match a sony exclusive every time and guess what ms has a bigger all around library more roleplaying games and no installs. Oh and live is so aweseme comaped to the childish sony dashboard that looks like someone thrw shit at the wall and hope it stuck.

[AuToFiRE]

Umm where do you get the "constantly outselling the ps3" bit? if im not mistaken its vise versa and has been for the past couple years except for a month or two after the release of the XboxS

[T3MPL3TON]

ERRRGHT! Incorrect sir.

[oldjadedgamer]

Do you really actually care about sales?

[mrmikew2018]

This what I don't understand with you kids, how are you hyping up a game (Crytek's Kingdoms) you know nothing about? Please explain how this game is "Ace in hole for Microsoft"?

It's pretty obvious bro that Microsoft needs to invest in first party studios, plain and simple. They have to stop paying these third party developers for these stupid exclusive DLC for multiplatform titles.

Also what point are you trying to make, that the 360 is outselling the PS3 for 6 years? If you don't have stock in Microsoft, you need shut up cause your making yourself sound like a fool.

[The Iron Sheik]

I am amazed by people like you who think sales trump exclusive games for console bragging rights. You don't see a nickel of that sales money so how does it make your gaming experience better?

[Cueil]

if he does hold stocks in those companies?

[Biggest]

He doesn't hold enough for it to matter. And if he did, he would be like the other large share holders and call for the end of Microsoft's gaming division.

[bustamove]

It's selling alright but the gaming catalog is running thin. Seriously, there is no need to defend Microsoft and the 360 at this point. They need first party games and fast. I've been waiting the LONGEST time for a sequel to Killer Instinct and I haven't seen NOTHING yet. That would have made me consider a 360.

[Denethor_II]

The sales nonsense was started by 360 fanboys, way back when, to counteract the fact that the PS3 is the superior machine. When the PS3 surpasses it in sales what will be the differce? You'll still have a boat load of great exclusives on the PS3, and you'll still have Gears on the Xbox. How does a few more units being sold of one console more than the other really affect your experience?

[PoorMansGT]

ps3 is outselling 360.why is the gap 3.6 then?

[xAlmostPro]

isnt it only STILL outselling ps3 in the US though?.. not worldwide?.. although i could be wrong ;)..

i know theres still more 360 consoles sold than ps3s but in terms of each months sales isnt ps3 now beating it worldwide?

[shadyiswin]

Problem is microsoft doesn't need japan sales just there developers.This is where the ps3 is making up ground but its not enough, the europe market is more important to xbox which it seems to have a good chunk of.

[Omega4]

Lets see how many trolls get reported in this article, I'm going with -14 (as in 14 people not trolling and own a 360 will be reported as trolls).

[hm0uzy]

u r not a troll?

[Chris399]

And I haven't bought a 360 game since Magna Carta 2. There's nothing on the system - currently - for my tastes (JRPGs that aren't multi).

Don't assume that just because people are critical of the business model and company that they don't own the system. Not everyone is as partisan and as much of a zealot as you, Omega. If Sony hadn't scooped up all the JRPG love lately, I'd be spending my hours on the 360, simple as that. Sure, I like the build of the PS3 better, but in the end, its about the GAMES. You can stick your fingers in your ears and go "la-la-la" all you want, doesn't change the fact that MS dropped the ball on 1st party studios this gen and seem to have abandoned the core market (which is the only reason why they exist) to court the Wii crowd.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. You're an angry person, we can tell, but put your anger in the right place. Give some of that rage to MS for squandering money on 3D cameras and flailing when they could have been making more successful franchises like Halo (at least you'll have that to play soon, first AAA exclusive of the year for the 360).

P.S. You're really in no position to be throwing around the "troll" moniker, either.

[pippoppow]

As a conscientious consumer and long time gamer who has spent thousands on gaming on many platforms, I have insight and experience enough to bemoan and criticize MS' tactics justly.

It is sad that what ever MS does they will continue to have fans that support them. Then again the worst people, companies, countries, etc will have their supporters. I'm sure Omega has his as well.

+ To the question. MS is up to fleecing their customers for all they have while giving back crumbs.

[Jdoki]

Good posts Chris and pippow.

I bought my 360 Day 1 in UK. Amazing console, but where Sony have gained momentum, Microsoft have lost it.

MS have succeeded in this gen because they've gained market share - but in terms of games, I have been very disappointed since '08.

[Jazz4108]

What rp games has sony had that's so good demon souls is the only good one and whit knight is crap and looks like a cartoon and vc is a stategy game like halo wars. Best rpgs are on live our the 360 and that's a fact but u would not know that until sony farts u out.

[Chris399]

- White Knight Chronicles
- Trinity Universe
- 3D Dot Heroes
- Last Rebellion

Coming later this year or beyond:
- Atelier Rorona
- Atelier Totori
- Ar Tonelico 3
- To be announced at TGS NIS RPG
- Trinty: Souls of Zill O'll
- Wizardry
- WKC 2
- Another World (Studio Gibli/ Level 5 game)
- Neptune
- Disgaea 4
- ONE EXCLUSIVE TALES GAME and TWO ports. THREE JRPGs.
- Final Fantasy VS (maybe multi, but with so many other JRPGs, who cares?)
- Wild Arms PS3 (Rumored, find out at TGS)
- FIVE INTERNAL titles from SCEJ from 2008

http://n4g.com/news/242579/...

Add the multis to the mix and that's well over 25 games. Now what exclusive JRPG content has MS released on their system since Magna Carta 2? Nothing. None at all. Being a typical fanboy, you're talking out your as$.

The development of the genre has shifted to the PS3, where the audience is. Look at Namco trying to scramble to recoup their fanbase. MS had a great run of JRPG content 2007, 2008, before almost every game not published by them went multi - Vesperia, Star Ocean, Eternal Sonata. Reality check.

[Hellsvacancy]

Listen 2 Omega lol "Pot callin the kettle black"

[Motorola]

Everyone that has one bubble and trolls is more likely to be reported. I wish there was such thing as NO BUBBLES. Of course you will disagree Omega since youd probably be the first to have no bubbles..

[Bell Boy]

A bit rich Sir your the biggest troll on this entire site!!

[PS3XBOX360WII]

The PS3 has. /////Xbox 360
Resistance 3. ///////Halo reach
Killzone 3. /////// Gears of war
Ratchet and clank all 4 one ///////Fable 3
GT5. ///////Kinect
Agent
Motorstorm Ap.
LBP2
Socom 4
Sly
Dead space extraction
PS Move
Start the party
The shoot
Sports champion
Pixel junk shooter 2

[Slimshadyn]

And The Last Guardian, Twisted Metal, Infamous 2, Journey. So many games!

[PS3XBOX360WII]

Many I can't even remember all of them

[zootang]

MLB the Show! always gets 10/10's!

[GigaGaia]

You forgot Final Fantasy Versus 13. The 360 isn't getting that one.

[dosgrtr]

yakuza 4 to the list

[SecretAgentHam]

dont forget sorcery! and eyepet for those that are interested.

imo it really does feel good having my ps3 since 2007... got to see it mature to what it is today.

now to play some games.

[Gamehead36]

sorcery, uncharted 3/naughty dog project

[gtsentry]

come on now,u cant jus come in the xbox home n own them like this..its not there fault microsoft charges them n wants them to play kinect

[pippoppow]

PS3XBO360WII..... THA WINNA.

[bustamove]

Good Lord, easy on that list. xD

I think Sony's sole mission is to kill every gamer's wallet, lol.

[twostep18]

no thats microsofts mission

[caffman]

and its a buggy mess. The card isn't recognised half the time

[Figboy]

but maybe it's why they held off releasing it in the US and are making it a MOVE title?

maybe they realized that just relying on the camera, and no other input devices wasn't as feasible as having some sort of tangible method of interacting with the EyePet?

Microsoft is putting a lot of eggs in their Kinect basket.

with Sony, even if MOVE and 3D fail to take off, their core market, the one that has supported the PlayStation brand for a long time now (for me, it's been since 1996), will still have ample reason to stick with PlayStation.

i won't list the games here, but Sony has all it's bases covered. All niches and genres. THAT'S how you represent the industry and show you are a leader.

Sony didn't lead the industry for nothing. they produced content that appealed to a wide demographic, and produced some of the most impressive first party games since Nintendo revitalized the industry in the 80s.

the level of quality that PlayStation 3 gamers are getting from Sony's first and second party studios is so far beyond what the competition is doing, as well as third party devs.

there are some FANTASTIC games from third parties, but they hardly have the level of polish and production values as the first and second party exclusives.

i didn't mean to go off a rant, but maybe this new edition of EyePet with MOVE support will be better, and your kid's may get more out of the title.

[phatak]

actually this is the list
ps3 in 2011 vs 360 exlusives or content

1. dead space 2 with extraction
2. portal 2 with steamworks
3. mortal combat 3d
4. killzone 3
5.motorstorm apocalypse
6.final fantasy 14
7. yakuza 4
8.socom 4
9. sorcery
10. journey
11. heroes on the move
12. final fantasy vs 13
13. infamous 2
14. twisted metak ps3
15. resistance 3
16. ratchet and clank 4 one
17. the last guardian
18. agent
VS
1. gears of war 3
2. forza with kinect
3. star wars kinect
4. codename kingdoms

wwwwwwooooooww

[Jonoc33]

forgot LittleBigPlanet 2 and Uncharted 3 as well.

You also forgot Fable 3 and all those Kinect games.
Looking at "lists of 360 exclusives in 2011" around the interwebz, it's funny how people put Mass Effect 3 in their dwindling list of 5 games. Quite sad, really.

not looking good for MS?

[shadyiswin]

Gt5 = kinect? You mean forza right? And all those Move games have got horrible reviews lol, ever single last one, the highest was the wii sports clone with like a 7 but its stated that you should wait on the Move cause it brings nothing new.Agent isn't an exclusive neither is dead space, its made by EA meaning it will perform better on the 360 lol.For the last time lbp2 is not a system seller....they have there's niche people who love to recreate things.It won't be a number 1 seller, it will sell but nothing spectacular under 150,000 in week one.What else is left, socom 4, I prefer tom clancy's future soldier, not an exclusive but will have kinect features that will make it unique, that leaves "sly"...I hope your not about talking sly cooper?...fail.That brings this so called epic list down to reality which isn't that great at all, oh and moto storm 3 looks fun but kinect joyride will out sell it lol, I've reduced this list to rubble.Sales do matter that's why xbox will continue to have the best multi platform experience and lazy developers.Any who I must return to bringing people back down to reality.

[Myst]

I do hope the third option isn't a reality. At least in the hopes that they aren't pumping ALL of their resources into a successor just yet, seems like something that should only take up at least 20% of their resources. If anything they should be looking into making new first parties, and looking back at their track record. As I said in some other articles, first few years of 360 are amazing. Majority of my games are from that time, now I can't really say I'm ex-tactic about turning on that console.

I don't know I think Microsoft just needs a new outlook, It's fine that they have some multiplatform games which is all well and good, but there just needs to be more from Microsoft. Something that makes people say "Yeah Xbox!" without having to think just about Halo, Gears, and Fable. I mean I hate to bring this up in a 360 article, but look at the PS3 you have to have at least a list to name some of the games on it. That is what I'd like to see from Microsoft and a bit from Nintendo. I must reiterate though sorry for bringing in another console but it was the easiest way to get my point across.

P.S. I still think they could do something good with Kinect, they just have to pool in resources to make something better than party games. There are already plenty of those.

[crck]

Problem is MS killed all their first party studios besides Lionhead, Rare and Turn10. How can you have first party games with no first party studios?

[Myst]

Yeah that's why I hope they are looking into acquiring some.

[OneShotThrill]

Scares me. That other 360 owners are too busy sticking up for MS and defending them from the PS3 fanboys than to be honest and demand we get our moneys worth. IDC how much MS has sold ..they're fucking up right now..

[T9X69]

No I'm to busy playing my 360 & PS3, while you're to busy complaining about people defending something they like, rather than playing your PS3. When you start earning and spending my money, you can tell me what I'm getting my moneys worth, until then STFU. I spend money on both my 360 and PS3, and I have no complaints. How about you start playing games, instead of bitching about how people spend their money. Does someone playing Halo or Gears for a few years at their house bother you that much? If I can get a game for $60 that will last me YEARS, I'll take that over a $60 game that will last me a month or two at most. Back in the PS2 days I bought SOCOM 1 & 2, those 2 games right there lasted me 5+ years, so does that make me a bad gamer or not getting my moneys worth because I can enjoy ONE game longer than you can enjoy 20?

[Why o why]

but you totally missed/ignored Thrills point

Anybody would think you guys/360 only guys would be up in arms. Remember when the ps3 had 'no games' Lets get this straight we are all smart enough to know what the 360 fans/fanboys were saying when they used to say that and that was that there wasnt that many games IE EXCLUSIVES.....fast forward to the present and most of ms's exclusives have become multiplats or timed at best...they have less studios than they started the gen with and the hopes of securing 3rd party exclusives like they used to has all but dried up. Of course its not the end of the world for xbox...thats silly but c'mon man...didnt it used to be about the exclusives way back when....wtf happened smh.

[Stealth20k]

Theres absolutrly no new xbox coming for another 5 years.....they even said as much

[GigaGaia]

The next one is coming soon. The 360 doesn't have a 10 years lifespan like the PS3. Impossible, since the hardware in the 360 was outdated since it was released.

It's still using dvd and the devs are having a serious problem with the space. This problem is getting worse as time pass.

[coolbeans]

You make it seem like the idea of multiple discs has never been used before. Don't see how you can convince yourself that dvd's are actually a problem.

[C0MPUT3R]

...................
.
It's not as simple as putting the game on 2 or more discs.
.
MS charges a licensing fee for every disc cutting into the publishers profits so basically games get shaved down to 6.8gb to fit on 1 disc and only pay the 1 licensing fee.
.
Also big open world games are effected, they have to take place in bland environments like the desert or the wasteland, so devs can recycle the assets to artificially generate more space.
.
......................

[shadyiswin]

The xbox is old tech yet games on both systems can hardly be distinguished, and its the xbox that always play better, maybe you guys should asking sony why aren't developers getting the power out the ps3, we all know is there, I haven't really seen it 4 years, the xbox life cycle is no where near over kinect just brought them 3 years at least, the whole dvd space thing is a rumor dating back to 2006 when bluray idiots thought sony games would be using 25-50 gigs, how many have so far? Dvd space is not an issue and I'm just fine swapping a disc if I have to, did it make resident evil 2 or final fantasy less great cause you have switch disc? I think not.The 360 will be around for at least 3 more years bringing it to 8 years.In 3 more years I'm ready for a new one to be honest.It's only money guys.

[Halo_Reach]

360 will have :

Forza MotorSport 4
Kingdoms or whatever the name is
Gears of War 3

Thats it.

[Stealth20k]

And that blows

[RememberThe357]

Those seem to always sell.

[Stealth20k]

Microsoft said that this console gen will last longer.....the article poster is quite the moron.

Theyve been quoted in saying there wont be another 360 for 5 years.

[RememberThe357]

Sony is still making the PS2. MS said that the 360 will have a 10 year life span not that they wont release a new console in that time.

[Stealth20k]

That would kill the 360 so they wont do that.

[RememberThe357]

The PS1 wasn't killed when the PS2 launched. History proves you wrong. By the time the new consoles come out there will be such a big pricing difference they will be different markets.

[Biggest]

Sony has a record of continuing with a product even after it's made "obsolete". Microsoft kills their old stuff. Just in a gaming sense. . . Where's your support for Xbox? It died immediately.

[gtsentry]

gt5 wil still own forza4 nex year
kingdoms=agent
gears3=killzone3

[CaptainPunch]

Uncharted 3 would been a better comparison to Gears of War 3 since it's a TPS. In that case Uncharted 3 owns Gears.

[Trroy]

MS is embracing the casual market, which coincides perfectly with the reason they entered the console market to begin with -- to keep Microsoft as an option in the average Joe's livingroom, thus protecting Windows and Office from serious competition from another angle.

This is not a strategic change for them -- they simply saw the light of Nintendo's blazing trail, and are now pursuing them, rather than the former market leader, Sony. They don't care about gamers -- they care about livingrooms. The good thing is that MS will probably do well with the casuals looking for a HD option over the Wii. The bad thing is that a significant portion of their current userbase will probably abandon ship and get themselves a PS3 in the next year or two.

Change is good. Or.. at least its entertaining.

[Stealth20k]

This console gen is longer.....

Microsoft doesnt have any exclusives just because developers dont want to make them for that system

We will be seeing new portables next year (3ds and psp 2)....and maybe new consoles in 5 years.

[iistuii]

Are great, however most of the games I play are multi format, the likes of Fifa, Tiger woods, NHL ,RDR, Mafia2, COD plus the upcoming Dirt and F1 etc etc, so if they never released another exclusive it wouldn't bother me, there's plenty to play. Of course the biggest release this year Halo Reach is also about to land on my mat, and Gears 3 next year, so don't fret about it, I'm not.

[MightyMatt101]

I know what they're doing! Slowly they're abandoning the 360! There's a few games coming out and connect to keep some quiet.... But it's obvious that the focus internally is on the next console.

[asyouburn]

theyre trying to make it so when you hand it down to your little sister, she has compelling "little sister"games to play on it

[MightyMatt101]

EXACTLY!!!!

[jack_burt0n]

I dont think so, they have decided the halo and cod fan will continue to buy the same product year after year and pay to do so in terms of buying new hardware, online fee's etc.

It was the same with snatching exclusives from sony, they obviously feel they have the share of the hardcore gamer and thats all they need.

They now just want to broaden their appeal to girls and other social demographics with kinect that is their main focus now.

[asyouburn]

but my theory is they do, just on the nextbox. the 360 has already lasted a year beyond its predecessor, and im sure msoft is itching to bring out new hardware

[acedoh]

your right... It seems as though Microsoft is focusing on their next console. Although I don't think it would be premature. Considering the 360 is hitting it's fifth year. I think we will be seeing a new console by the 7th year which is a pretty healthy lifespan for a console. Microsoft will once again be the first to release a console and have a slew of next gen games to release. I don't think SONY is that far behind. Resistance 3 and the next Uncharted will probably be their last on the PS3. It will be interesting to see how this generation unfolds over the next couple of years.

[AuToFiRE]

Microsoft really doesnt know how to run a console business

[Convas]

All I know is that I'm not weeping. There are too many Multiplatform games to be heartbroken. And what MS doesn't seem to realize is that they are pushing the core into the arms of Sony. Whilst Sony keeps on point, delivering hard hitting exclusive titles, MS is chasing Wii Money Skirts, and disgusting us, the Core, who put them in the position they are in now.

So really, I don't care anymore. They can do whatever the hell they want. Halo: Reach, Gears of War 3, Fable 3, and Codename: Kingdoms. If that's it, I'll take it and game on. The PS3 will come out on top this gen simply because MS lost the plot, and forced us over the the console with superior gaming choices over "Kinectimals". No other reason.

[yamzilla]

is gearing up for next gen, their new console will be arriving this time next year, they are slowing down production of in house games to allow for the new consoles in house games development. I would not be suprised if they have secretly formed some new first party studios that are, as we speak developing next gen goodness. If you are of the camp that believes we won't see next gen consoles for 3 or more years, you are foolish to say the least. This current gen of consoles is coming to a close, bungie have already stated they are hard at work on a next gen game, don't be suprised too, if games like RAGE, DOOM 4, Bulletstorm and other high profile games have a dual release of current and next gen platforms, this would spur the early adapters to dive in to some tasty next gen consoles.

I almost guarentee we will see a new xbox in 2011....I for one cannot wait, after REACH, which is a day one purchase, there is NOTHING for the 360 I want.

GEARS 3 looks pretty lame to me.

Bring on the freaking next gen!!

[MightyMatt101]

I agree 100% with you! We know all 3 are working on next gen hardware. I think microsoft will be the first to make the move! At E3 next year we will see the new xbox and it will probably get a holiday release.

[mrmikew2018]

Interesting, but I wonder what games will be available for the system at launch? It won't be Gears or War, Fable or Halo, seeing how all those titles are coming out for the 360 this year and next.

New IPs are always welcome in my book, but I hope they are good, but how many games are good on launch day? Plus how much is the system going to cost?

[Nathaniel_Drake]

It could be either or, they could be ready to shut down their gaming division all together, there were signs of the investors wanting to shut down this division reported this year. Kinect seems like their last chance to keep the gaming division alive. I don't see any evidence of them opening any new studios to keep their gaming division fresh instead being counterproductive and closing studios. They lose money by paying for timed exclusives and also paying for exclusive game for other companies. Only a few games they make in house. From all the important shows that have just passed and one coming up they haven't yet really shown what is in the future

[niceguyWii3]

sad microsoft has to bring up another console just to compete with the ps3.

[iistuii]

Are you on about. It's already shown it's capable. It's still ahead in sales over the playstation, which was a massive worldwide name. They took it on and after 5 years are still ahead, give credit, oh sorry blinkered Sony fans do no such thing.

[BrutallyBlunt]

It's no secret Microsoft has fewer studios than both Nintendo and Sony. It's also no secret they rely more on 3rd party support than anyone. They used to have 3 key areas going for them at the start of this generation. 1 was ease of development which the Playstation 3 has dramatically improved on so that's not much of a plus for Microsoft any longer. 2 is cheaper hardware and it still is cheaper to get started but compared to the Playstation 3 i still think there is less value. 3rd is XBOX Live which used to be their big difference. Yet PSN has grown substantially quicker. It is still not up to Live standards in some key areas but it's free and serves its purpose more than enough to many.

So what's left now for them is Kinect and it's exclusives. Well the exclusives seem to be getting less and less, not growing in IP's. Games like Mass Effect were never true exclusives but having it not on the Playstation 3 gave it some competitive edge to the platform closest to it. That's no longer the case. Bungie is no longer linked to Microsoft but the Halo name remains. Which basically means the heart of the series will most likely not be recaptured. It's kind of like Rare, one of the few exclusive studios Microsoft has, the heart of that team is not the same either since the Nintendo days.

What's clear is the XBOX 360 is on a downward trend. It's almost five years old so that's fine but what do they have going into next generation? This brings us to Kinect which Microsoft seems to be gambling on big time. Sony is not treating Move as such, they are playing it more safe. Kinect is almost a make or break product for them. If it fails then what? We have Gears of War 3 which is another IP made from an outside source. Creating a team to carry on the Halo torch is not good enough IMO, they need more IP's of their own.

Kinect may very well be a great product in the end. However it's biggest hurdle isn't the software, it's the fact it's an afterthought of the original launch. It's a peripheral that the developers have to think twice about since the userbase is now split.

Microsoft has failed outside of the U.S. in getting people to 'jump in' so to speak. It's clear anyone who pays for XBOX Live gets the most value of it if they live in the U.S. as well. So will Kinect crack this xenophobic stigma that the XBOX brand has?

[TheLeprachaun]

Couldn't agree more. You echo my sentiments exactly. I have to say this is one of the most well put together, non biased comments I've ever seen posted on N4G.

[BrutallyBlunt]

I think part of the problem is gaming is not the only focus. It's sort of like Sony and how they are pushing Move (to a lesser degree than Kinect) and 3D. Both Sony and Microsoft want to sell us stuff other than games. Nintendo does too but they are a gaming company first and foremost. They don't create computer software or build TV's. That's not to say that they don't want us to buy plastic tennis rackets and plastic steering wheels that most likely cost them pennies to make.

So what ends up happening is you have PR people from Microsoft telling us about things like Windows 7 and the new phone coming out. How we can go from different platforms like the XBOX 360 to the PC and now to the Windows 7 phone. You can get Achievements and unlock this and that. What they are really saying is "we want people to buy more products and we want to sell you more Live memberships. Creating new games and new IP's, well that is riskier and that's not where the millions of new users will come from."

[Slimshadyn]

Agreed

[BrutallyBlunt]

Maybe the new way of doing business and flourishing isn't by creating their own studios or trying to have the most IP's. Maybe the best thing to do is to create a platform or a device that the developers will want to make games on. Think of the DS and how that system basically owns the handheld market (unless you ask Steve Jobs). It offered a new way of playing games with its touch-screen. Now we see Apple trying to go one step further with the IPad and other products. Then we see the 3DS and game studios gravitating towards that.

So are creating your own exclusives the best route to take in getting people to buy your products or is it creating a product where you get the studios to come to you? Maybe this is why Microsoft has shifted its focus now onto Kinect. Maybe they see this as being a go to device that not only applies to games but other products as well. Making new IP's like Crackdown and Viva Pinata only caters to so many people, creating devices like Kinect could cater to a much larger demographic. Of course Kinect could also fail miserably too.

[Robearboy]

Was the MS vs SONY fanboy wars this bitter and twisted last gen? i cant believe that people actually care this much about corporations that would sell their parents if it meant a few extra quid.

And NO Sony dont care for you, they are just the same as MS, they want your dollar dollar bill y'all

[Trroy]

They want the dollar of the gamer, the videophile, and the audiophile, though, and targets that market specifically. MS wants everyone's dollars, indiscriminately. That's the difference. No joke.

[mrmikew2018]

Not that I remember bro. Nowadays you will think it's freaking gang war between these two pieces of plastic. I find it so funny that these kids and retarded adults on this site, put so much energy into defending these corporations that don't give two sh!ts about them. Every other article that comes from this site is either about sales or pixel counting.

It's sad, because no one is paying attention to the most important aspect, which is the games. Also, when it comes to the games you have fools like Digital Foundry, NeoGaf and Lens of Truth who believe they're doing a service by telling the gaming community which version is better than the other because it has one or two more pixels than other? But they claim they're not fanboys....yea...right.

Oh well hopefully it gets better, but I doubt it.

[Raines of Onyx]

I think its really funny when a bunch of ps3 fanbkys hop on n4g and band together to say ms sucks meanwhile who is playing their ps3? Lol I own a xbox 360, ps3, and a wii and guess what one I play the most... Xbox. And guess what else im a writer for ps3vault.com I get free games to review because I dont want to buy 75% of the games sony has. Ms may have less exclusives then sony right now but guess what xbox exclusives are better games and every 1 xbox eclusive sales is equivelint to 3 ps3 exclusives hell gears of war 2 out sold resistince 2 & killzone 2 combine and those are suppose to be 2 of the major exclusives too lol. In all I like all 3 systems but face the facts and the sale this gen was over 2 years ago get over it and get ready for next gen.

[Motorola]

Im guessing you havent read the comments on the GT5 glitch..

[rhood022]

1. Apparently you'd rather come here to comment on the fanboys than play your Xbox. So... pot meet kettle.

2. More sales =/= better games. Why doesn't that ever get through you people's skulls?

3. You're a "writer"? Seriously? Wow. Remind me to never go to ps3vault.com if the caliber of writing is anything like your post.

[asyouburn]

ps3vault.com must suck if you write with all that crappy grammar, punctuation, and spelling. "resistince"? lol

[jrisner]

cool story bro

[labwarrior]

Project Kingdoms (exclusive)
Gears of War 3 (exclusive)
Halo Reach (exclusive)
Milo (exclusive)
Gun Loco (exclusive)
Kinect Adventures (exclusive)
Kinect Joyride (exclusive)
Kinect Sports (exclusive)
Kinectimals (exclusive)
Dead Rising 2 case zero (exclusive)
Sega Kinect game (exclusive)
Forza 4 (exclusive)
Star Wars Kinect (exclusive)
Otomedius Excellent (exclusive)
Fighters Uncaged (exclusive)
Adrenalin Misfits (exclusive)
Dance Central (exclusive)
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved (exclusive)
Undergarden (exclusive) - http://www.examiner.com/vid...
Mechwarrior 5 (exclusive) http://uk.pc.ign.com/articl...
Earth Defense Force 2017 : Returns 2011 (exclusive)

Fable 3 (exclusive, delayed on PC)
Kingdom Under Fire 2: Dominion (exclusive, also on PC)
Divinity 2 Expansion (exclusive, also on PC)
Grey Matter (exclusive, also on PC)
Majesty 2 (exclusive, also on PC)
X-Com (exclusive, also on PC)
Fable 4 (exclusive, maybe also on PC)
Nuclear Dawn (exclusive, also on PC)
Dreamkiller (exclusive, also on PC)
The Heavy (exclusive, also on PC)
The First Templar (exclusive, also on PC) - http://n4g.com/news/593598/...
The Secret World (exclusive, also on PC) - http://n4g.com/news/593565/...

Dust Elysian Tale (XBLA exclusive)
Ilomilo (XBLA exclusive)
Space Ark (XBLA exclusive)
Delve Deeper (XBLA exclusive)
ToeJam & Earl (XBLA exclusive)
Capsized (XBLA exclusive)
A World of Keflings (XBLA exclusive)
Ancients of Ooga (XBLA exclusive)
Bangai-O HD: Missile Fury (XBLA exclusive)

Plants vs. Zombies (XBLA exclusive, also on PC)
Magicka (XBLA exclusive, also on PC)

Gothic 4 (timed exclusive, PS3 version got delayed)
Mass Effect 3 (trilogy exclusive, you miss 80 hours of character development and story of ME1 on PS3)
Two Worlds 2 (series exclusive, you miss 60 hours of gameplay and world experience in Two Worlds 1)
Risen 2 (series exclusive, you miss 40 hours of gameplay and world experience in Risen 1)
Child of Eden (Kinect exclusive, unique hands free experience not possible on any other system)

And the unannounced ones
Feelplus “large scale RPG” (exclusive, confirmed directly)
Firebird Studios game (exclusive, confirmed indirectly)
Halo 4 (343 Industries) (exclusive, confirmed directly, name may change)
Remedy confirmed new game (exclusive, confirmed)
Rare confirmed new game (exclusive, confirmed directly)
Too Human 2 (exclusive, confirmed by developer, but still not sure)

So, we have upcoming for xbox 360

21 exclusives

12 console exclusives

9 XBLA exclusives

2 XBLA console exclusives

5 special exclusives (series can only be played fully on 360 on consoles, or hands free with Kinect, or timed exclusives like Gothic 4 etc)

6 unnanouced exclusives, 1 of which is rumor, 5 are confirmed

So, 55 exclusives upcoming

[Motorola]

*sigh* Delayed =/= Exclusive
PC and 360 =/= Xbox Exclusive.
Not sure =/= exclusive.
You really need some help.
Unannounced Game =/= exclusive

[N4PS3Fanboys]

What exactly is the point of comparing exclusives if PC/360 games are not counted for the 360? Microsoft publishes many of their exclusives for Windows because they want to make a profit. They don't care about some imaginary war where people make lists of games to prove which console is better.

Making a list that shows the PS3 has more exclusives does not prove anything, because Sony does not have another platform to release them on, like Microsoft does with Windows. If it was Sony Windows, then most of the PS3's big exclusives would probably be released on the PC as well.

If it were the same situation for both companies, then these lists would have a point, but as it is now, they don't.

Attitudes like this just prove the Destructoid article more and more right every day:

http://www.destructoid.com/...

[asyouburn]

i can only play it on xbox. if msoft decides to release it on pc, its no longer exclusive. like god of war 3. exclusive. gears of war (the first one) not exclusive.

[a_squirrel]

And half of those are xbox live arcade... or are coming in the next 3 years. We were talking about the current, as in what is done, and is releasing/released.

[pippoppow]

Unbelievable. MS has this one hook line and sinker.

@N4PS3Fanboys
Linkin to destructoid does not help you in any way. Also the only PC games that generate money for MS are those rare games published by them. Sony could release games for the PC and would make money off of them because it's their game. MS couldn't stop Sony from releasing their games on the PC they just choose not to as it adds value to their console. You act like MS has a say who releases what on the PC. They don't. They are the dominate OS on PCs (not the only one) but it doesn't make it their platform. Get it right already.

[jneul]

how many of those are good quality games, also you need help with your definition of "exclusive"

[jack_burt0n]

Wow its getting ugly in here, fat man jim sterling is showing up and people are mentioning fable 4

LMFAO.

cant we get excited about TGS or something for FFFF sake.

[PoorMansGT]

can't tell if this is a joke or not. you are assuming most of those and you realize you mentioned plenty of pc ports that ate not exclusive right? also the next halo aint begin made by the real developers anymore. lack of franchises and variety too,face it there's no games on the unreliable console...

[phatak]

so how many of those games r gonna be gud ? quality > quantity. instead ill name some ps3 exclusives that r exclusive and have been proven that they r gud. ps3 in 2011 vs 360 exlusives or content

1. dead space 2 with extraction
2. portal 2 with steamworks
3. mortal combat 3d
4. killzone 3
5.motorstorm apocalypse
6.final fantasy 14
7. yakuza 4
8.socom 4
9. sorcery
10. journey
11. heroes on the move
12. final fantasy vs 13
13. infamous 2
14. twisted metak ps3
15. resistance 3
16. ratchet and clank 4 one
17. the last guardian
18. agent
VS
1. gears of war 3
2. forza with kinect
3. star wars kinect
4. codename kingdoms
these r games that can only be played on ps3 except for final fantasy 14 and portal with steamworks both of which will be on pc. the 18 games i mentioned are all quantiy of quality if that makes sense. all these developers who makes these 18 games i mentioned are on of the best in the industry with past successes. and u bring up shit by saying child of eden is kinect exclusive. thats like saying child of eden is move exclusive because it can be played with move on ps3. The best thing is I can play these games online without paying 120$ considering this years and next years 360 lineup. Y would u add unannounced games? thats like me saying uncharted 3 is gonna be awesome. the getaway is gonna be awesome. i could in other words say the 21+ first party studio games that come out of sony r gonna be awesome becuase obviously all of them is working of something right.
if u can include timed exclusives then i can include stuff like games on ps3 come on 1 disc vs 360 coming on 2 or 3.its like saying if u want the superior experience of games like final fantasy u must get it on ps3 because it comes in a single disc. but i wont do that . im talking not about the number of exclusives. im talking of quality and atleast 15 of these games out of 18 r gonna be gud if not awesome while out of the 55 so called exclusives u menttioned i can c maybe 7 to be gud if not awesome. and btw please dont include games like kinect joy adventures because i played it and well lets just leave it at that

[Fatal Blow]

Next year it will only have kinect games and few exclusive games that you might buy even the wii has better games line up then this well am only looking forward to halo reach that's about it

ms really needs to sack the lazy ass people and buy some good first party company like sony and start making great games damn if only they made me in charge of there xbox company for 6months with unlimited money i would have got them back on there feet lol

[Senden]

Love how you include kinect games as exclusive..all of kinects lineup put together could barely rival the depth of a single AAA game let alone make up so many exclusives. Same with xbla games, most of them are barely even worth bothering with these days.

Also out of all those exclusives, what actually brings something new and refreshing? Alls I see in microsoft's corner now are same old same old sequels. Sony on the other hand have been and continue to look to bringing new experiences and offering what i'd consider a true core gaming experience.

[Prcko]

What you have to consider here is that the PS3 has the most diverse range of exclusives and most of the PS3's first party games this generation have come from the UK and US which provides us with the problem that these are the two territories where the PS3 sells the least. Sony haven't advertised the PS3 or Playstation Move anywhere near as much as they can and the PS3 will still be notoriously known as, "It has no games."

People have to understand that the PS3 has a fine line of first party titles and the exclusives do sell well, for example, Aaron Grenberg who is a capitalist twat working for Microsoft said that Halo 3 outsold several Sony franchises, these being Resistance 1 and 2, Uncharted 1 and 2, Killzone 2 and God of War III. All with Halo 3's measly 8.1 million sales.

Now first of all Halo 3 was bundled with every single X-Box 360 for a very long period of time, the PS3 only has the top exclusives bundled when they are brand new and may see a shortage through single software units alone, not in bundles where new fans can buy everything in one box and not buy a PS3 and take a copy from the shelf, removing a copy from someone who already has the game, but lets do the math.

Halo 3 sales: 8.1 million according to Aaron, including console bundle sales.

Resistance FoM: Confirmed to have sold 3.71 million units since launch.
Resistance 2: Confirmed to have sold 2.2 million units since launch.
Uncharted 1: Confirmed to have sold 3.4 million units since launch.
Uncharted 2: Last known at 3.5 million sales and closing in on 4 million. 3.5 for arguements sake.
Killzone 2: Last confirmed at 2.5 million, no update since then. Probably much more.
God of War III: Last confirmed to have broken the 3 million sales mark.

So, 3.71 plus 2.2 plus 3.4 plus 3.5 plus 2.5 plus 3.0 = 18.31 million sales.

Not including Motorstorm series which has sold over 5 million units confirmed, or Metal Gear Solid 5 or Gran Turismo 5 prologue which also sold about 5 million a piece etc.

PS3 exclusives do sell, much more than you think. The difference is Microsoft like to flaunt their sales as some form of achievement whereas Sony only update at stuff like conferences or major events, sometimes anniversaries of releases etc.

You think the Halo franchise outsold every single Playstation franchise? Gran Turismo outsold it by miles. Gran Turismo 1 sold a confirmed 10.85 million units world wide, thats before platinum, greatest hits and digital sales.

Now with a much broader gaming audience and more 360's than PS3's on the market, shouldn't Halo, as Microsofts most cherished franchise, could outsell a game 13 years old? Sure hasn't and might not in its lifetime. One thing is for sure, Sony constantly report rising software sales from first party titles so they'll be on top before long. With so many amazing exclusives yet to come and new found third party support, Microsoft will slip into second place. The PS3 has already come off the 5 million unit lead and the thrashings to outsell the 360 and sometimes the Wii worldwide for about a year and a half now, with minor losses due to major exclusive releases on the other consoles.

You feed on Microsoft's publicity too much.

[caffman]

including, strangly, the Halo xbox 360. However in the UK RfoM was bundled with every PS3 for about 6 months

[palaeomerus]

I don't care about exclusives that much. I like games. I can get them on all three consoles so I don't have to worry about stupid shit like this.

[TGM]

And uh... we're supposed to care because...?

For Christ's sake, be a gamer and appreciate games on all platforms and stop with this fanboyism shit. It was boring when people first starting crying about it ten years ago, and it's worse now. My fucking eyes are bleeding.

Microsoft doesn't care about you, Sony doesn't care about you, Nintendo doesn't care about you. Being the standard-bearer doesn't make you any better. Just go out there, buy the games and have fun.

[jneul]

MS is busy going casual and abandoning all it's fans that put it on the second place pedestal, wonder what it feels like to have kinect shoved in your face when all you want really is more hardcore games, MS fails...

[Raines of Onyx]

We will see with sales.

[asyouburn]

hanna montana sells more cd's than whatever your favorite band is, making her cd. . . better. . . ?

[twostep18]

well said

[Verminox]

Lists. Everywhere, Lists.

[Convas]

It's N4G.

Here, Sales =/= Quality but Good Graphics do

Here, everyone is against the PS3 and the 360 gets a free ride from everyone

Here, all fanboys are PS3 Fanboys

Here, you don't need to read, you can get the jump on an article via Face value

Here, the PS3 is a god-machine with no limits, and every exclusive is 10 times better than anything out there

Here, People pledge their firstborns to Soulless corporations

Here, Lists prove than you have a bigger shrine to your savior

Those are just some of the creeds folk live by on N4G.

[DrillaKid]

I think MS is trying to replace Nintendo as the standard choice for casual gaming; when u think about it Nintendo never seem to struggle in any gaming generation since they have such a loyal casual fanbase and IPs that people recognise.

Sony and MS are battling it out for the "hardcore" audience; Sony dominated the previous two gens and beat out Sega and MS; this gen both are vying for 2nd place and Nintendo as usual are in their comfort zone; MS probably sees this as the best position to be in and my guess is that this is behind their recent change of strategy.

[mrmikew2018]

If he/she does own stock in either company they won't be wasting their time here on N4G bragging about it, what sense would that make bro?

[Solo227]

Since 2007 when Sony really started laying it down... Halo Reach is the last hurrah for MS...

The only thing MS still has up on SONY is XBL... Which should be where its at cuz they have been charging for that since day one... And even then besides a few features they are virtually even...

Sony has already put a dent in MS one year sales lead to at this point Sony won and life goes on...

[palaeomerus]

Sony's exclusives aren't that big of a deal. Not even real PS3 owners (meaning people I actually know instead of internet dweebs) seem that excited about them. I own a PS3 and have more PS3 exclusives than anyone else I know and weirdly I am NOT that much of a PS3 fan. I don't think another ratchet and clank is that exciting. I don't know anyone who bought Mod Nation Racers. I don't know of anyone who played all the way through little big planet. Most PS3 owners just play Madden and CoD MW2 a lot. Like MOST gamers.

The main thing sony did that succeeded was to drop their price to an affordable level.

[wages of sin]

A bubble and an agree, well stated palaeomerus.

I've had my ps3 since the launch of Killzone2 and while is surely has some great games, they are never near as good as some would have you believe. The price drop is exactly what turned things around because it surely isn't the games.

[gamer8179]

I get so tired of hearing you whining ps3 fanboys for saying that Microsoft is ripping off the consumers. You oblivous don't know what ripping off means. They are providing a service, and like most other services, you have to pay a fee. If you don't feel the service is worth the money, than you simply don't get it. Microsoft may be focus on kinect more right now, but I'm sure it will change before too long. I don't understand why you support playstation plus, when all their doing is offering discounts on games that are old. Xbox live offers discounts all the time, yet you never hear anyone talking about that. Stop trying to make yourself feel better for choosing the ps3 by constantly trolling every xbox article

[PoorMansGT]

you mad? they are ripping you off, face it...

[palaeomerus]

I don't see it being a rip off. If people buy stuff and they like it, then who even gives a shit what YOU think?

[MetalGearBear]

R.I.P M$

[00000000000000000001]

MS already stated that no new core game announcements until 2011. The reason is to give most of the attention to Kinect this fall. Sounds like a smart move to me! We will see what MS has in store next year.

[xAlmostPro]

lol once reach & fable 3 release your gonna be paying to play kinect soon :/.. unless of course you only play those or stick to old games..

its really the decent multi-plats that are keeping it going for the consumers.. there really is a complete lack of exclusives..

[GeoramA]

360 is barely relevant in my eyes these days.

It's last good year was 2007. Since then, PS3 has kicked it's ass from top to bottom.

[Father Murder X]

That many people didn't figure that MS would survive Sony's onslaught but they did. MS might not have the most exclusives but they have the ones that people want. ODST has outsold every PS3 exclusive and that was a damn expansion pack. Hell the top selling game on the Ps3 is a multi-platform. Its easy to sell tons of game when the install base is 100+ million. Sony messed up when they let MS get the 360 out early. MS capitalized on it.

Check this out here is a list of the top selling games on the Ps2"
The top ten best-selling PlayStation 2 video games.

1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (17.33 million approximately)[107][unreliable source?]
2. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (14.89 million approximately: 7.14 million in North America, 1.89 million in Japan, 5.85 in Europe)[97]
3. Gran Turismo 4 (10.76 million approximately: 2.97 million in North America, 6.36 in Europe, 1.26 in Japan)[97]
4. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (9.21 million approximately: 8.2 million in US,[19] 410,293 in Japan,[108] 600,000 in UK)[36]
5. Grand Theft Auto III (7.509 million approximately: 6.55 million in US,[19] 358,917 in Japan,[108] 600,000 in UK)[36]
6. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (7 million)[109]
7. Final Fantasy X (6.6 million) [110]
8. Final Fantasy XII (5.2 million approximately: 2.4 million in Japan,[111] 1.7 million in US,[19] 1.1 million in Europe;[112] 5.2 million shipped)[113]
9. Kingdom Hearts (4.68 million approximately: 3.45 million in US,[19] 1.23 million in Japan;[48] 5.9 million shipped including Kingdom Hearts Final Mix and Ultimate Hits)[114]
10. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (4.44 million approximately: 3.6 million in Japan,[48][115] 410,000 in Europe,[116] 430,000 in North America;[117] 4.88 million shipped)[118]

Total PlayStation 2 games sold as of December 31, 2009: 1.51 billion

Sony's empire was built off of 3rd parties with the exception of Gran Turismo. MS broke that up. Now Sony is trying to recapture success with first party games. It isn't working. I doubt that they have any game that will sell 10 million copies this gen. Gran Turismo is selling less with each new game. Sony has been putting out quality products but they lack that one big IP. MS got lucky last gen with Halo, Fable, Forza and brought those game with them. This gen they got Gears along with the games they brought from last gen. They got 3rd party support from the companies that built the Ps2. Look at the list the most popular titles on the Ps2 were 3rd party games with the exception of Gran Turismo. There is no question as to why they are in second place and Sony is in third. The 360's sales have passed the original Xbox and maybe more Ps2 owners "turned to the dark side" than expected. Other than missing Gran Turismo what flatout undeniable reason has SONY given them to come back. Hell even though its no Gran Turismo, Forza is not exactly chopped liver.

Again Sony is making great games but they still can't make the games that can compete with the big games on the 360. Once you get past all the fanboys hype, once you get past the game reviews and advertisements the public will vote with their money. Right now of the two systems they seem to favor the 360. Quality is in the eye of the beholder but cold hard cash isn't. That's about as straight forward as it can get.

"The easy girl gets asked out on dates more than the prettiest girl in school"
Father Murder X

[Treyb3yond]

You must be what is left of all of those people who said "teh PS3 is doooomed" a few years back.

LOL! Mass Effect?

More like Mass face palm, I guess you are still sore over that one....not that it was ever exclusive in the first place.

Ouch.

[Treyb3yond]

And by your twisted "logic" the Wii is the best console ever made.

D-D-D-D-DOUBLE COMBO!!!!

[caffman]

says Hi

[Father Murder X]

I was speaking of the Ps3 and 360 hence the part about 2nd and 3rd place.

Typical fanboy response. The numbers don't lie. Ps3 is in 3rd place. ps3's games aren't as popular as they were last gen. These are facts. I made no mention of Mass Effect as I have never played the game or its sequel.

Again MS by hook or crook went after their bread and butter which was their 3rd party developers. This is called good business strategy and it has paid off. Only fanboys think that something is wrong with making money.

Exclusives are like cars. You can have 20 cars that may nor may not work or you can 2 or 3 cars that you know will get the job done.

You have your fanboy rants and I have the truth.

[etownone]

Good read .... I agree 100%

BUT a couple things to consider, Sony had to built up it's first party line-up. And now they got some damn good AAA first party exclusives.
While MS is losing exclusives, losing first party studios.
Sony is setting themselves up real sweet next gen.
Who wouldn't want to play the next uncharted, resistance, killzone, GT6, LBP, infamous, and racket and clank on a PS4.
Whereas right now .... the only Exclusive game I can look forward to on the Xbox is Halo .... And it's not even going to be made by Bungie!! Sad to say, but Gears will most likely, like definitely by on the next Playstation.

Although PS3 will not be KING this gen. Sony won the format war, has built a free online network for it's console that works fine, has bought a lot of first party AAA exclusives to the playstation brand, and is introducing 3D gaming along with motion controls that work!!

I think Sony has set themselves up to be KinG for next gen.

[IneedWeed]

Yeah I agree with you. Sony had a rough start with exclusives, multiplats etc. But in the long run, they showed their fanbase a lot of support, unlike M$ and raising the price for a rip off service. I believe studios are getting used to developing for the PS3, and that'll lead to better games for the PS4. Without Halo M$ would've died out long ago(only reason I bought a 360).

[Blazing_Crabs]

tl;dr

[Jonoc33]

translation for those who can't read bullshit:
sales = quality.

move along, gents.

[Treyb3yond]

It's called shooting your load too soon, that's what.

[N4OGs]

So many awesome ps3 games out and coming out. I cant believe people who call themselves gamers would put them selfs through this just to be stubborn. ah well ill get back to playing all these ps3 games. have fun playing the same old halo crap that looks like borderlands battle arena.

[silvacrest]

but i will say that the lack of announced hardcore 360 titles is worrying and if kinect becomes really successful i can imagine them abandoning hard core all together in favour of the casuals

the 360 fans who want kinect to do well only so they can boast about sales might want to think about this

[etownone]

I never thought of it that way ....

HOPEFULLY they do announce the next XBox to be released 2011. I've had my 360 since launch, and would welcome a next gen Xbox, without abandoning the 360.

I already heard somewhere that Epic is working on their next engine for next gen consoles.

[alb1899]

i'm in your same page friend!

[luke201]

*facepalm*

[alb1899]

talk, talk, talk.............360 is selling more and not just hardware.....software too so just wait and see!

[IneedWeed]

Keep on talking about sales, while I enjoy many upcoming games for the PS3. I have a 360 also, but after Halo Reach there's not much out there.

I notice Xbox Fanboys always brings up sales, while Sony Fanboys brings up exclusive games. I think I'll take exclusive games over sales(which you don't even get a penny of)

M$ forcing you to pay for online play is BS, if PSN starts forcing us to pay for the PS4, I'm going to kill Bill Gates(JKing)

[Jeff-Ryan]

yup thats Micro$oft for you

[frankymv]

I've said it one million times before. Xbox 720 in fall 2011 guaranteed.

[Neko_Mega]

I think it is all because of Kinect, look at how much money is being put in to it Vs games.

I think Microsoft needs to start buying some titles to have only on 360 or they might start losing it.

[jrbeerman11]

I love my 360, and I am as concerned about the lineup as any fanboy, however I have ps3 and I am excited for all the exclusives coming.

So right now it looks as if sony is ahead in the games department, and I really dont think many will disagree.

But PS3 fanboys really need to stop talking like they have shares in SCEA stock or something. RELAX its not like the 360 hasnt beat sony in the exclusive department in prior years.

This tunnel vision from both sides is extremely annoying. its a problem yes, people can complain that 360 is turning into wii2 yes. but man stop talking about how much better the ps3 is than 360. even if it seems to be true, rubbing it in peoples faces makes you look like a prick

[Optical_Matrix]

God knows. They're losing momentum is all I can say. People can come in and say "oooh but it's selling better than PS3", but at the end of the day, you don't get a single penny of those sales. Games are where it's at and its something that Microsoft isn't providing.
I don't know what they're doing.

[PandemicPrawn0]

The thing that grinds my gears is that Microsoft could easily address their lack of first party developers.

As I see it the Xbox brand is having trouble on three fronts.

1) Lack of first party studios.
2) Lack of recognized franchises / Ips
3) Almost no penetration of the Japanese market.

All this points to one solution. IMO Microsoft must buy SEGA.

If they were to do this it could kill all three birds with one very large stone. Exclusive titles like Sonic, bayonetta and Phantasy Star would be a huge boon for the Xbox brand.
And would also provide almost instant credibility in Japan.

Microsoft has to make a big move soon before that Xbox becomes completely illrelevant.

[jrbeerman11]

WOW great idea, not too many people actually try and think of solutions, well done.

[jdigitalseven]

Just on their knees with their eyes an mouths wide open to be violated by ms. If it isnt a shooter than they think it sucks...thats what the 360 is for-oversaturated shooter market games. Jealousy of god of war and heavy rain is so obvious, nice try though. Have fun paying more for xbox live....where you cant play games youve bought online without renewing your subscription. You dont own ANYTHING on live!!!

[Def Warrant]

Be afraid 360 owners. Be very afraid. I wouldn't be surprised if M$ was plotting on bailing on all your hardcore asses lol. I just can't seem to comprehend why everything M$ touches fails?

[Ascalon94]

Halo is a failure? Gears is a failure? Fable is a failure? Stop being a bitch.

[Blazing_Crabs]

They're the only 3 things that aren't failures.

[Holeran]

Does anyone remember how fast the original xbox died out? In terms of consoles at the time it was far and away the most powerful console out and then like a bomb went off blammo it was no more. Very depressing to me at the time because it was a great piece of hardware and then it was like a dinosaur overnight. What happened there? Is this fixing to be the same turning point? I hope not because competition breeds creativity especially in fixed hardware applications. A early death of the 360 won't be good for gamers, maybe for the opposeing consoles pocketbook but definitely not for gamers.

[Sarobi]

The 360 fangirls are hurt because Playstation is actually doing a better job, haha, they got what was coming to them for giving Playstation users a hard time back in 2007 and 8, "Playstation has no games" ..what goes around comes around.. am i right?

[gcolley]

grow up!

[Sarobi]

Shut up

[Rashonality]

simple as that
they just sniff for money and fallow the smell
yes i know all companies have the same goal
MONEY
but you can't compare "Atlus" a company that only release's Memorable games with "EA" or "Activation" which are money wh0res...

[slutface]

Sony is gonna drive M$ out of the industry just like it did Sega.....dont fucking mess with Sony! XD

[Ascalon94]

apparently hiring hookers with my money instead of getting me games

[mittwaffen]

Its silicon people, most of the games people play tend to be Mplat.

Who cares, support sony and MS dies, MS dies and North America would likely bail them out on your tax dollars.

Personally I think alot of you need to grow some hair...downstairs before you can handle the net.

[Holeran]

You honestly think that microsoft would fold if their console lost the war in a bad way? Give me a break. Microsoft took to console gaming like my wife makes fresh salsa in her spare time and sells it to her friends to show them (see I do something else in my spare time). Make no mistake microsoft isn't betting anything on their consoles. Case in point, they never rushed to make their 360 better until years after the rrod problem, if they actually needed their console to succeed in a bad way they would of fixed the problem instantly and given the gaming public what they wanted, a sturdy platform. Instead they milked the public for every last dime then years later come out and say hey we make it better now, buy another one.

[jrbeerman11]

I think they finally started making a profit on the xbox franchise last year if i remember correctly

[Mastodon]

SOme one want to link me to where it said that Sony is dominating the console and gaming world? I just want to see the total sales of games and whatnot as I am always confused when people cry "My console has da mostest sales!!" I could careless about either company as I don't work for MS or Sony nor do they pay my bills but I just want to see some hard numbers on the matter. Forget the fanboy debating.

[360kinect]

November will tell us all...failure or success, at least their trying!

[gcolley]

i don't think it is too bad yet. they are obviously focussing on kinect at the moment but come on guys... it is far from the end of MS.

and the oscar goes to... "PS3 fanboys"

[PS3-247]

Stealing PS3 exclusives didn't help MS at all. Halo and Gears have helped the 360 alot but how long will they last? How long will fans keep playing them? They will get tired of the same stuff and that's why I think the 360 needs new IP's.

[IK IR Y IP T]

that just shows u the xbox dont need exclusives to beat the ps3 exclusives is all the ps3 has got and they have no replay value

[earbus]

What are ms doing ? presently entertaing the hell out of me gears 2 double xp if you think ms dont have games up their sleeves youre wrong just because there games arnt announced doesnt mean they dont exsist i like it when they drop out of the blue rather than knowing six years in advance but thats me.

[rezzah]

lol that pic is so retarded

[CrIpPeN]

I buy exclusive and multiplatforms for my PS3, so I get a great line up.

To bad there are still developers struggling with the PS3.

I hope PS4 get more easier to develop to, or they can even do better support for the developers.

[Venoxn4g]

how I love you ms :) you ARE really supporting us :) with kinectimals and other S**it...very nice, very...with one or 2 new games you wont win back our hearts..

[Gue1]

The X360 started strong cus it was easy to develop for, but now it's getting weak cus of the lack of first party devs and multiplat devs jumping ship (example: mass effect 2, GTAIV DLC, Bioshock, Bungie).

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

the article does have some merit to it. MS stop developement on the original Xbox and moved everything over to the 360. I can remember when there were few games announced in 2003 and 2004 this kinda makes since to what there doing. Could we see a new system in 2012/2013?

[FwanK]

It's difficult to know...

[Bell Boy]

@Bell Boy
You weren't a member here when the PS3 launched.

Are only members allowed to visit this site in an attempt to read news about the console they own, I know that's what I used to do prior to Dec 2007 when I made my 1st comment here.

Reading the comments of such excellent ps3 technical and business gurus as the mart (back then didn't add at xbox kings)and the power of green slagging the ps3 off back then in every and I mean every article this site were actually very entertaining.

But news for the last one not every one who visits here to get gaming news joins the site!!!..

[codyodiodi]

If Microsoft only makes game for the Kinect I will be done with them. I will switch over PS3 in a heartbeat. It wouldn't be too hard since I already own a PS3 and would then just need to buy the Multi-platform games on the PS3

[Kiriel]

GamesCom is the biggest show on the planet, not the 2nd largest show in the West.

[TheLeprachaun]

Gamescom's attendance is the biggest yes but E3 and TGS are currently more important in the industry.

[JohnSimpleTon]

The general response to this article falsely insinuates that MS has had a large number of first party studios that they just seemed to loose, when the truth is that they never had that many to begin with. Many of these so called studios that left MS were PC specific in their direction like Ensemble Studios (Age of kings). The only major companies were Bungie, Rare, Lionhead and Turn10. The fact is that MS was largely successful last gen as far as exclusives were concerned due to the major hardware difference.

Many PC specific devs refused to work on the PS2's offerings (like Bioware), and Itagaki (Ninja Gaiden creator) on numerous occasions blamed his bias towards the PS2 on its hardware capabilities. In my opinion, this gen only proves how increasingly insignificance the impact of first party games have had on the general financial landscape and MS probably see's this. They're already ahead, and a lot of fanboys around here keep preaching this imaginary doom that never seems to come.

It seems like every time an NPD chart surfaces, it only displays a company that seems to be increasing in momentum economically. Fact is, MS is making money, that's what they're up too and they probably don't feel the need to pay off any more first party developers right now since they're getting plenty of love from everyone else.

Believe it or not, exclusive or not, I enjoy the titles on the 360 as I do every other system. I don't feel an extra entitlement when I get joy out of Alan Wake (an exclusive), as I do from Batman: Arkham Asylum (multiplatform), because I'm a gamer first and never a fanboy.

Will they pull a Sony and have to rethink their strategy? only time will tell.

[TheMrMadzen]

"IT'S A TRAP!!"