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Kinect vs. Move: The Verdict

GameCentral pits the Xbox 360's Kinect against the PlayStation Move in a battle of the motion controllers. But will either system come away a winner?

MariaHelFutura5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

The Verdict is one could be used for GOW, KZ3, RE5, MassEffect1/2/3, Socom and Call Of Duty and one can`t. Figure it out, it`s not that hard.

blumatt5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

Umm, Mass Effect is not on PS3. lol Unless you're trying to make some point I'm unclear what you're saying here.
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As far as this article goes, though, it's obvious that the Move will appeal to more players since it has hardcore games in its list of supported games such as Socom 4, GT5, LBP2, KZ3, and Resident Evil 5. Personally, I'm getting a Move, a subcontroller (I already have the PS Eye), a copy of Killzone 3, and one of those third party PS Move gun controllers (which look pretty sick actually).

Shadow Flare5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

The big difference between Move and Kinetc for me is that from the demonstrations i've seen, Move adds to the experience and improves gameplay and immersiveness greatly, while Kinetc detracts from the gameplay of a normal joypad experience.

All i have to say is, look at Echochrome II and chameleon for Move and you can see the depth of potential

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Then what does Kinetc have? Its all REALLY basic in comparison. Oh, jump, jump, shake your hands, jump, lean right, jump........bloody hell.....you can see why people call it an eyetoy

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

MariaHelFutura5021d ago

Of course ME1/2 aren`t on the PS3, I own them for the 360. But if they were on PS3 they would work for playing a game like ME1/2 or if the Move was for the 360.

blumatt5021d ago

Oh, ok man. I didn't know what you were saying. lol

sikbeta5021d ago

Is really necessary a comparison? We're seeing the Move working as Promised, loads of videos are proof of that, this is not a "biased" opinion, cos every site is actually showing how great Move works, the demos alone are mind-blowing (chameleon + RTS, etc), Imagine what Devs will do with this 1:1 tracking motion-controller, I'm expecting for an avalanche of Move patches for released and upcoming games, also the "launch" line-up is great, Time Crisis x 3 in 1 bundle, enough said...

And for people that want to downplay the current line-up of games by saying "some games have the option to play with Move, but weren't created for the device", that's a misconception, you don't want games only for Move, you'll want games to play with Move

PlayStation Move is what everyone thought the wii was going to be but never happened...

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- Ghost of Sparta -5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

The verdict is Kinect has no games, and can never be used for the kinds of games real gamers are used to. Add to that the fact of ridiculous lag and if you've got yourself a complete failure of a product.

Edit: I think the point Maria is trying to make is that hardcore RPG/Shooter hybrids like Mass Effect would work perfectly with Move. Good job being Captain Obvious though, blumatt. I can't wait to see the look on your face when the trilogy appears on PS3.

bobdog6265021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

Im playing it now and i Wish you guys could get it 2.ME2 is one Heck of a Game,Everybody go out and Buy this Game no Joke.Best Game on the 360 and PC.Kinect and Move will sell very well also

syanara5020d ago

I like how this article that titles itself the verdict doesnt really have a verdict beyond saying neither one is the next gen of motion controls lol I find that kinda funny good article though.

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Dylantalon15021d ago

I don't know what is wrong with certain people that can't decipher a quality technological device which is accurate in replicating physical 1:1 gestures and movements from something that is way more limited in terms of laggier response time and being able to be implemented in any game.

There isn't any competition when it comes to kinect and the ps move because the camera which trAcks the move controller can do the same as kinect but not track in 3d and the move controller can be used for all type of games be it hardcore or casual.

People who have been following natal/kinect for over a year and sees the constant problems and lag with the technology are gullible imbeciles if they plan on getting it, especially the core games. Someone says kinect is amazing and problem free but when you watch leaked preview of the tech you realise that its crappy. With the ps move , I can watch hundreds of previews , but with kinect, I'm only able to watch previews with a controlled environment with Microsoft reps .

To each his own...

foss35021d ago

The Move CAN track in 3D.

Rather than using stereo cameras however, it uses the size of the glowing ball.

IdleLeeSiuLung5021d ago

The PS Move can track the wand in 3D, not do full body 3D tracking like kinect i.e. PS Move essentially tracks the acceleration, velocity, direction and position of a specific point of the glowing ball.

It's advantage is precision, almost imperceptible lag and low power usage. It's weakness is the same as the Wii, the console can't detect the placement of your entire body's limbs at any point in time. It might be able to emulate some of that, but it isn't true full body tracking.

SO each system has it's advantages and disadvantages. Some are more suitable for one type of game than another.

@dylantalon

"With the ps move , I can watch hundreds of previews , but with kinect, I'm only able to watch previews with a controlled environment with Microsoft reps ."

I will one up you, by saying that I was able to try Kinect myself at the San Diego MS Store. There are little Kinect hands-on tours around the US with various dates for you and anyone else to try it. I can't say the same about PS Move. In fact, all I have seen are videos PS Move and not given the opportunity to try it myself. There are almost no tours (I have only heard of one) and it is only a 6 weeks away from release.

Judging by that, it makes me wonder who the imbecile is. One that decries one product you can try yourself or the other that is only shown in videos.... With that said, you managed to get me to stoop to your level and call others imbecile. That is uncalled for.

jneul5021d ago

@IdleLeeSiuLung lol have you not seen the puppet demo on move that was tracking the upper body in full 3d space, obviously you are uninformed, ps move has kinect like abilities as well as it's own abilities such as object modelling.
also the move is being demoed in Japan, and now in the UK at the ps beta event in Birmingham, I am so excited now

btk5020d ago

Like graphics - so what if the graphics is not real time ray traced. Does it leave me satisfied that the graphics was great.

Same with the motion controller. Regardless of the underlying tech - does it behave in the way the I expect it to. Does it make me feel that it enhanced the gameplay experience - or is it a fidgety mess that I have to pretend to enjoy because the marketing tells me it is great.

dizzleK5021d ago

maybe i'm just silly but i'm of a mind that we stop these effing articles, wait until the shit is actually in peoples homes and then judge. but that's just me.

Boody-Bandit5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

What is there to wait on?
MS and Sony showed their hands at E3. We have seen which direction both companies are headed with their motion devices. Sony is going to cover all genre's and the entire user base of gamers (hardcore to casual). MS is going after the casual crowd.

For me it's a no brainer.
I need a controller in my hand while I am gaming.

DeFFeR5021d ago

I'll throw my opinion in the mix...

I have a 12 year old son who I do not allow to play "hardcore" games.

We have a PS3, 360 and Wii.

Out of the three, he enjoys the Wii the most. The games we purchase for him are mostly "casual" and aren't the types of games that "hardcore" players play.

That said - He is very interested in Kinect because it allows him to play what he calls "fun looking games" without a controller. He is curious to play Kinectimals and the Adventure game or whatever it's called. He thinks those look fun.

I have Kinect pre-ordered. I have Move pre-ordered. I consider myself a "normal" gamer. I enjoy racing, platform, shooters, puzzle etc. As of right now, Move is the controller for the alleged "hardcore" gamer, and Kinect is the next step in technological progression from the Wii, and thus, it's a more "casual" market.

I'm not MAD at microsoft for not making launch games that cater to the "hardcore" as I'm sure that some developers will find a way to integrate the games into the new technology.

I like the way that Move is looking, but in all honesty, it's really just a 2010 version of what the Wii did in 2006. It may be more precise, and the games will be for the "hardcore", but the technology is very similar to the Wii, and is more of a parallel technological advancement rather than a progression.

You can disagree with me all you want because I'm not a "diehard fanboy" like everyone wants everyone to be. Fact of the matter is, I don't care what people think if they can't have a logical conversation without letting their alliance to "one console" get in the way. I have all three, I love all three.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

I pick the device that have 1:1 Tracking, Hardcore Games, 22ms delay lag, Facial, Body tracking and Voice Recognition and works with any game, with more than 40 Games in the Catalog.

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Knightofelemia825d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog824d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916824d ago (Edited 824d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69824d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming824d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79824d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember824d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog824d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop824d ago (Edited 824d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog824d ago (Edited 824d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop824d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic824d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop824d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic823d ago (Edited 823d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal824d ago (Edited 824d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic824d ago (Edited 824d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10824d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar824d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10824d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell824d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10824d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72824d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming824d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog824d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming824d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming824d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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