3D + Games = Deteriorated Graphics

After hands on with both games, Mucu from GamesOnSmash.com explains why the graphics of Killzone 3 and MotorStorm: Apocalypse take a hit when displayed in 3D/ Are we willing to sacrifice crisp graphics for supposed immersion?

[Geralt]

3D + Games + PC = No Deteriorated Graphics

[ElementX]

Why do PC gamers always have to bring them up? This video isn't tagged "PC"

[FURY__UNLEASHED]

This N4G, following the rules is apparently optional. GreenRing(s)OfLife trolls nonstop every day, all day but has yet to be banned.

On topic: This is the only website I've seen say the 3D lowers the detail. Other sites said there was no downgrade.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Never hear them talking about Innovative exclusives. Its always the same ol, "6755p 87x AA 500fps 800terabyte HDD 500gigs RAM" kinda stuff.

[AC130-Gunship]

Industry : "Thank you James Cameron for showing the way. Your Avatar was a revelation in economics".

Gamers : Don't be fooled

[PAPERCHASER0396]

All electronics just hitting the market or tech will always be more expensive at launch as competition arises prices drop so what's ur point all because you can't afford it that's your personal problem so don't put the tech down...... Look at DVD players, cell phones, and others when they first came out

[Chris_TC]

This has to do with how Sony markets their 3D mode as a huge innovation that hasn't been done before and how Sony gamers respond to it.

Even in articles you read stuff like "The first real 3D game blablabla" when Nvidia has brought 3D to mainstream gamers a long time ago.

[Mucudadada]

I wouldn't call the graphics a downgrade, it's just altered to the point where it does not look as good. Again, it's browner and harder to see enemies in the distance. That's just my honest opinion after playing 2 3D games.

[fr0sty]

yeah, just horrible frame rates unless you plop down enough money on a video card, CPU, and RAM to buy you 3 PS3's.

[Chris_TC]

Haha, more ignorance. You typing this on your PS3 btw?

[hay]

Aren't gamesonsmash the biased and bs type of people against PS3?

[sikbeta]

Sorry but none of Those 2 Games are Finished Yet, come back again when you test The Final Product please...

[tontontam0]

Agree

but
Console Exclusive Games + PC = Can't play

[dj55555555]

What is with the PC brigade? Who would have thought a machine that you can spend an infinite amount of money on could do things better then a £250 console. Wow I'm glad you guys are here constantly telling us.

[prodg52]

OMG!! NO WAY! Really? Who didn't know this? I for one don't mind taking a graphical hit in order to play in 3d. Game play comes before graphics and PS3 gives us both choices.

[Chris_TC]

The person who said:
<<This is the only website I've seen say the 3D lowers the detail. Other sites said there was no downgrade.>>

And the 5 people who agreed with him.

[synce]

Not just as a gamer, but as a human being, I wish this 3D fad would end already. Sadly I think it's going to take another year or two for the kids to get over it. In the meantime I say just tough it out

[The_Firestarter]

When I was watching the live stream for Sony's E3 conference, I thought the KZ3 footage looked a bit fuzzy, maybe the game does take a hit when 3D is enabled. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know, but what do I care when I'm gonna be playing it in 2D anyway. It's gonna be a great experience either way so whatever.

I'm just glad Sony is really serious about implementing 3D in their big franchises.

[DarK-SilV]

if you are wearing a 3D glasses when it is shown in 3D it will not look fuzzy,

even a movie will look fuzzy in 3D with out the glasses

[STONEY4]

Nah, most sites the caught the footage had direct feed, so it wasn't from the 3D effect, it's from the decreased resolution, which was confirmed by the first magazine to preview Killzone 3 in 3D.

[oguzsasi]

As long as 300 dollar console games have great graphics, people dont care about greater graphics to spend 1000!

Thats the point that pc gamers dont understand! Who wants the best of the best graphics? I dont... Console games are okay with me!

[Nihilism]

Your right, everyone driving sports cars should burn them, because a second hand hatch back is fine for some, so everyone else should just settle for less...

I really don't get the logic of that...

You don't even need a 3d monitor to game in 3d on PC, you simply get 30 frames per eye for a game that would otherwise have run at 60...but on consoles you need the 3d TV so that it can duplicate frames so that all those 30frame games don't get halved to 15 per eye..aka sloooooow.

I remember all PS3 owners claiming there was no deterioration and heralding it as another victory, now that it is apparent there is visual loss you claim "visuals don't matter" you fickle fools need to pick a stance

@ExgamerLegends

Yeah because PS3 owners never talk about hardware or visuals...nope not ever

[divideby0]

author does not realize these are the first games out in 3D...
just look at the first games in HD and look at them now.
dugh

btw.. I have a hard time believing anyone whos age is less than some pairs of socks I own...

[Nihilism]

HD is relatively new though, 3D tech is 30 years old, and it still is not acceptable, I don't think it will be 'perfected' for at least 5 years.

[ravinash]

They have only really started to implement it in the last two years for games, so I don't think it will take too long to improve things, at lest not on the same learning curve devs have been working on for the PS3.
The real thing that will be holding 3D back is the price of TVs, so that should keep it back another two years or so.

[Mucudadada]

Ya, but it's not the future. I just wanted to make sure that people realized that they might be disappointed int the visual quality and clarity of the first few titles. And, of course it will improved later one. This build of Killzone 3 3D will look better by the time it comes out.
I was merely pointing out my opinion that the immersion, while great, is not enough right now to overcome the visual distortion.

[r1sh12]

@ravinash...
There is no way that this geneartions 3d games are going to look as good as the regular versions.
The reason is simple, the graphics card in both the xbox and ps3 are limited.
I think this generation will make good progress but it will not be as mainstream until next geneartion.
256mb graphics is just not enough, many people will defend the ps3 til they die but its the truth. They have to downgrade the graphics to run it, so dont expect anything amazing.
3d blu ray will be amazing, but not games just yet.
The entire issue with consoles, they cannot be upgraded but only refined. I highly doubt very good looking games in 3d will do much this year, having a 3dtv will not make much of a difference.

[Syaz1]

it was already expected from the start. to produce 3d you need to produce the same graphics twice, which means, if the game runs at 30 frames, it will have to be cut about half to render it twice. nobody will want to play a game at 15 frames, so they tune down things like resolution, antialiasing and other graphical options to keep it at 30 frames. honestly, 3d on this gen of consoles are more like beta testing for next gen consoles. 3d wasn't in the mind of the console developers when they made the consoles, so if the 3d trend proves to be popular for the next few years, the next gen console will certainly build the console with 3d capabilities to start with.

for now, they're just testing waters, or at least sony is, since microsoft doesn't really have the balls to invest in an unknown market. sony did that with blu ray, and was met with huge rewards, and now they're investing in 3d capabilties, where again naysayers are questioning the move just like they during the blu ray introduction on ps3, as well as microsoft doubting the viability of 3d gaming.