Cliffy.B: "Naughty Dog you're going down"

VGArabia: Competition between videogames companies is a great thing for gamers. The fiercer the Competition, the better games we get. When you talk about great third person shooters these days, you have to mention these two popular and great franchises: Gears of War and Uncharted.


It seems that they were talking about The Escapist’s 2010 March Mayhem: Developer’s Showdown. a fan-voting tournament on Both of Epic games and Naughty Dog are matched up in a bracket.

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Myst3493d ago

This outta be interesting, and hopefully it's nothing more than friendly competition. If so then hopefully both developers will be going back and forth making the best game(s) possible which would be great for all of us.

Venatus-Deus3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Uncharted: DF >>beats>> GeoW
Uncharted: AT >>destroys>> GeoW2

Now which horse should I back? Decisions, decisions…


Did you notice I wrote "Graphics wise:" at the top?

While we are giving opinions, both are clearly great games. I know this because I own both systems. The topic is however graphics and you’re way too defensive.

Why don’t you ask mummy to buy you a ps3?

Foxgod3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Ive played both games, UC2 at my friends place, and Gears 2 on my 360.

Gears 2 > Uncharted 2.

Nope, i am simply not a raging ps3 fanboy.
Gears 2 delivered a hell of a ride, while UC2 is way too straightforward, with a lot of badly designed levels, and some good looking ones.

Gears2 is awesome from beginning till the end.

@Rumor Monger,
Gears 1 is better looking then Uncharted 1, uncharted 1 looked average at best with its blocky gfx and bad foliage and textures.
While Gears 1 was considered to be wonderful looking.

PirateThom3493d ago

Gears 2 > Uncharted?

Are you blind?

Rumor Monger3493d ago

Graphics wise:
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune >>destroys>> GeoW
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune >>beats>> GeoW2

Noctis Aftermath3493d ago

@piratetom: don't pay foxgod any attention, he's a huge xbox fanboy, i doubt he's even played uncharted.

FangBlade3493d ago

I wonder if Gears 3 will be in HD.

thereapersson3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Stop responding to FoxGod. He considers anyone who doesn't align with his opinion "delusional" or "special", and also a PS3 fanboy.

On Topic:

I love how PS3 games and development studios have pretty much become the driving force behind many new projects, and also the inspiration for developers like CliffyB and have even impressed visionaries like Peter Molyneux.

Nice stuff!

hay3493d ago

Cliffy challenges ND? That means he's gonna focus on PC or make a PS3 exclusive. Otherwise he'll fail to make a game technologically advanced as Uncharted 2.


I am sorry Fox but even as a 360 fan I think your way off.

I also own a ps3 and own uncharted 1. It has way better textures then gears. Is it a better game, thats down to opinion sure. I actually found uncharted 1 boring and till this day I have not finished it.

I had way more fun with gears 1 in both its single player and online, but honestly lighting and textures uncharted was better. I didn't like the particle effects in uncharted at all. the nades going off with the mini mushroom cloud I thought was funny as hell ( in a bad way ) uncharted 2 was a very good improvement over 1.

I can't say the same for gears 2. gears 2 was the complete opposite though. thats just for me though.

Syronicus3493d ago

Then you need to put him on it now. He is a filthy fanboy of the 360 and will argue 'till he is blue in the face even in the face of facts. Uncharted 2 makes any game on the 360 look underdeveloped. Nothing on the 360 compares to what the PS3 has to offer in terms of graphics. Even in terms of gameplay, Uncharted 2 owns Gears 2. If you deny that then explain why it is that Gears 2 did not win half the awards around the world that UC2 has won? Even despite being published on the least favored system of the media, Uncharted 2 on the PS3 succeeded greater than any other game before it and to deny that is just plain stupidity.

Shaman3493d ago

Cant wait to see what they have in store.Dont know why are now people bashing each others because of this,its great.It means competition and fun,and both accepted it with joy,better for us gamers.

DaTruth3493d ago

Gears of War 3 exclusive to PS3 with GG brought in to help and Sony Ice team - Confirmed!!!

Seriously, this is the only way it is gonna happen!

JonnyBadfinger3493d ago

Ah buddy thats cute...
"Uncharted: DF >>beats>> GeoW
Uncharted: AT >>destroys>> GeoW2 "

You'd better hope so.. since GeoW was released a year BEFORE Uncharted DF and GeoW2 was released a year BEFORE Uncharted AT.

So saying UC over Geow means nothing, since there is a a year difference between both games debuts and sequels.

And i will take GeoW over Uncharted everyday of the week... shame EPIC ruined Gears 2 multiplayer with "True Skill Matchmaking"... bring back Gears 1 old fashioned search option... made finding GOOD CONNECTION games so simple, because until global internet is compatible with all nations on a equal playing field, NO one should be put in game that isnt of a PING under 50ms.

foobar3493d ago

Just what the industry needs, developers thirsty for the top, trying to out do each other, pushing the limits and opening up new avenues. The result? A big fat WIN for us as gamers.

(Lets not forget that Rocksteady won the 2010 BAFTA for best game & gameplay for Batman:AA & that was cross platform. Good 'Graphics' are pleasing yes but a great game is not graphics alone.)

Christopher3493d ago

Yeah, color me completely unimpressed with that video.

And foxgod, GTFO of here with that "I swear I'm not a fanboy" crap.

King_of _the_Casuals3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Why is it that everytime I say something PRO Sony I get a hundred Agrees.......but everytime I say something PRO MICROSOFT I get a hundred disagrees.......and insults of being a crazy fanboy to follow?????

I forgot varied opinions are not welcome on this site.

DaTruth3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Why are we discussing GeoW3. You do not jump from 1.5 to 3!

@Above: This is your first comment in this thread!

Venatus-Deus3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

@ King_of _the_Casuals

It must work something like Capitalism V’s Communism. You keep telling yourself you’re correct. They’ll do the same and one day…


There is no point in replying to that statement. Rumor Monger in comment 1.4 already disproved my reasoning. I now agree with him… (Graphics wise. As an overall package then it’s very subjective).

These are old, but they do show why everybody is calling Foxgod crazy.


inveni03493d ago

Gears is not even close. You might not be a raging PS3 fanboy, but you are definitely a raging 360 fanboy. I've played Gears, and it was so stupid, I didn't even have the slightest desire to play Gears 2. What's more is that I played it on PC (with a 360 controller), and the graphics still weren't better than Uncharted (1 OR 2).

Gameplay isn't as subjective as people think, either. Uncharted 1 may not have been more intense than Gears, but Uncharted 2 definitely was. I can name 5 instances off the top of my head where Gears 2 doesn't touch Uncharted 2.

If you haven't figured it out, yet, I'm a Sony Fanboy because of Uncharted 2. In fact, I'm proud of it. And I'm not sure if there's anything wrong with loving a system because it has the best fact, I'd almost call that a normal response.

JsonHenry3493d ago

My vote still goes for Naughty Dog.

captain-obvious3493d ago

sorry but
what did Cliffy.B do ??

ONE game, only ONE game and hes already talking sh!t
and TBH GeOW is over hyped with a broken online

while look and what did ND do
a LOT of game that would easily take GOTY's

so yah
F*CK YOU Cliffy.B you aint worth sh!t compared to ND

JeffGUNZ3493d ago

As I do believe Gears 3 will not look as impressive as Uncharted 2 graphic wise (unless Gears 3 is on the next gen console), I do think it's a little pre-mature to pick a winner before you have seen ANYTHING from Gears of War 3. The tech demo doesn't count. A tech demo is just showing fundamentals of the engine and now the completed stages. Sure, I think it won't match up graphic wise, but who knows how the overall package will match up. Graphics are an excellent part of gaming, but never are they the most important aspect.

poopsack3493d ago

badly designed levels AHAHAHAHAHA!

nycredude3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

I don't what you guys are smoking but I have gears 1 and 2 on my shelf and every time I pop them in to play I can't get past the first hour! So freaking boring and I can't believe the graphics! Such low quality textures it hurts! The movement is also clunky as hell and all enemies are time bullet sponges! I think I will trade them both in before even playing them.

sikbeta3493d ago


Don't like the site? No 1 is forcing you to stay making comments on this site, so stop whining


ND are Masters, so cliffy-B is time to Show something and please if someone want to argue about this topic, don't bring teh salez...

madpuppy3493d ago

blood filled erectile organ.

hey Cliff, brush your damn hair and stop over bleaching your teeth!

midgard2273493d ago

u cant be serious, have u even played UC2? badly designed lvls? how the f can u say that without playing the game. UC2 is the only game able to do what it did with lvls falling apart as u fight, jumping car from car while fighting, fighting on moving trains, u obviously only played the game for an hour if ur gonna say somethin like that.

and gears SUCKED! i played both, beat both, the endings were WTF that was it? with the first one just ending out of no where there are credits after u shoot the boss for 1 second with the turret, then gears 2 u hold RT and it sucked had bad story bad gameplay, people just like it cuz it was bloody.

i dont think UC2 wuda won the most awards in one year for no reason, so u seem to be the minority :)

DarthTigra 3493d ago

"Round 2 of @TheEscpaistMag March Mayhem Developer's Showdown 2010 - @Naughty_Dog vs. Epic Games - vote for us!"

Thats the tweet Cliffy B responded too. A site is holding a march madness like bracket for the best game developers and Naughty Dog & Epic are in the 2nd round together. He wasn't talking about a new game.

AridSpider3493d ago

"Update: It seems that they were talking about The Escapist’s 2010 March Mayhem: Developer’s Showdown. a fan-voting tournament on Both of Epic games and Naughty Dog are matched up in a bracket. Click here to vote for your favorite developer."

well, time to move on people.

kneon3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

I find the previous Gears releases too easy and childish for me. Maybe if I was 12 I'd enjoy playing chainsaw wielding hunchbacked freaks, but now it just seems silly. To be fair I also find God of war silly looking with these ridiculously huge blades on magically stretchy chains, but at least it's challenging to play. I haven't tried GOW III yet, hopefully it's harder modes are still hard.

Maybe if Gears 3 grows up a bit then I could be interested, but given the recent trend of sequels often being even easier than their predecessors I won't hold my breath.

raztad3493d ago

[email protected] in this thread.

It seems Blezinski comment had nothing to do with Gears3 vs UC2.

On a side note. Foxgod is really a hardcore xbox fanboy, my respects Fox. You are doing your part.

Marojado3493d ago

They're talking about March Mayhem on The Escapist. Its a developer showdown; Epic v Naughty Dog.



Funny how you all immediately jumped to conclusions on this...

corneliuscrust3493d ago

a ton of angry 360 fans and angrier ps3 fans yelling at eachother over a game comparison...

same old on n4g.

they were joking about an escapist competition. joking.

you guys take this sht WAY too seriously

Erotic Sheep3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Wow Foxgod.. even the biggest 360 fanboys will disagree with you.
As much as I respect OPINIONS, yours is just laughable XD

Gears 2 > Uncharted 2?
Gears 1 better looking than Uncharted 1?


Sez 3493d ago

I have to admitt. Uncharted does beat gears in graphic. But you are also right that gears beat uncharted in gameplay. I love tomb raider because of it's puzzles levels and the way it made you feel like you where really exploring a temple or cave to help find clues to artifacts in the game.

Uncharted just felt like I was just jumping from one ledge to the other. While dodging and shooting bad guys. That's why I like tomb raider better. Gears1/2 had a lot of action from begining to end. But the ending/last boss fight was just lame in my opinion.

Elvfam5113493d ago

My picks for the escapist tournament.

Turbine vs Platinum games = Turbine
Double Fine Production vs Square Enix = Double Fine Production
Lionheads vs R* North = R* North
Zynga vs IW = IW
Valve vs Visceral Games = Valve
UBI Montreal vs Namco Bandai = UBI Montreal
Obsidian vs Capcom = Capcom
PopCap vs Bethesda Softworks = Bethesda Softworks
Nintendo vs Rocksteady Studios = Nintendo
2k Marin vs Harmonix = 2K Marin
GSC Game World vs Bungie = Bungie
Insomniac Games vs Blizzard = Insomniac Games
Bioware vs Gearbox Software = Gearbox Software
Naughty Dogs vs Epic Games
Mythic vs Kojima Productions = Kojima Productions
CCP Games vs Relic = Relic

Tito083493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Yo bro sorry to say this, but you don't know actually anything what's good or not, and you said in one of your comments that the 360 has more RPGs than Shooters which is a big fat lie, so very likely you being playing Tales of War and Uncharted Arms, in your dreams!!!!

Consoldtobots3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

"Ive played both games, UC2 at my friends place, and Gears 2 on my 360.

Gears 2 > Uncharted 2.

Nope, i am simply not a raging ps3 fanboy.
Gears 2 delivered a hell of a ride, while UC2 is way too straightforward, with a lot of badly designed levels, and some good looking ones.

Gears2 is awesome from beginning till the end.

@Rumor Monger,
Gears 1 is better looking then Uncharted 1, uncharted 1 looked average at best with its blocky gfx and bad foliage and textures.
While Gears 1 was considered to be wonderful looking."




mikeslemonade3493d ago (Edited 3493d ago )

Gears 3 beats Uncharted...1

I mean to beat Uncharted 1 it has to have more color variation and the gameplay for Gears is more slow paced.

It's not touching Uncharted 2. That would be impossible.

The Lazy One3493d ago

I would say Geow 1 was better than UC:DF mostly because UC didn't have multiplayer at the time. I would have called graphics a wash. UC had some nice effects, but I thought GeoW 1 looked crisper.

UC2 does look a lot better than GeoW2 though. I really hated how they went from a game where you really needed to be afraid of the dark to a game where there were almost no dark places at all. That alone would have changed the game tremendously.

bpac1234567893493d ago

Cool Competition is between developers is always good.

solidt123493d ago

It's good to see that Epic is aiming so high. Gears is my favorite 360 exclusive franchise. Uncharted 2 is Epic and I am playing through God of War 3 now. I can't imagine it getting much better on the current consoles but bring it.

likedamaster3493d ago

This kind of competition is healthy and necessary, lest the industry grow stagnant.

With that said, I particularly don't prefer Uncharted 2's overall look. I find the many vibrant colors distracting, as well. Granted, it is a good-looking game, I just prefer the more realistic look of Gears. If Epic can turn up the graphics on its already great-looking game, I'm all for it.

Escamotage3493d ago


Note: Gears of War 2 came out a year after Uncharted 1.

Gun_Senshi3493d ago

graphic wise, and its a FACT

masterofpwnage3493d ago

never really been a fan of gears. so idk.
uncharted distroyed gears1 and beat gears 2. so idk how gears 3 will go up against uncharted 3.
and i mean everything graphic, animation, story, voice acting. idk uncharted just had that movie feel and its going to be hard for gears to beat it.

WildArmed3493d ago

I'mma go with ND on this one.

Gears 2 has great gameplay and gfx.
But U2 just tops that by a little bit with equally great gameplay + climbing around and better gfx.

If GeOW3 and U3 released this fall, i'd pick up both.

I definitely liked the story in U2 better thou, and the characters were more developed.

Bodyboarder_VGamer3493d ago

Foxgod never fails to impress with his very narrow minded point of views. I know everybody has an opinion about everything but come on! The guy's clearly a troll, he's to one sided. Just look at his comment history...


Damn...I've never saw so many ignore.

HolyOrangeCows3493d ago

He thinks his clunky, ugly AA-less (technically 2xAA on "certain" edges, but almost NONE), laggy games are better than the Uncharted series?

erathaol3493d ago

Your to busy complaining about graphics that you lost sight of the fact that Naught Dog is actually losing to Epic Games in the vote. As what the article is referring to is a competition taking place on escapist website.


masterg3493d ago

UC1 single player beats GoW1 single player.
GoW1 beats UC1 overall because it had a fantastic online multiplayer.

UC2 beats GoW2 in both single and online multiplayer.

I still can't stop playing UC2 online. I have my friends copy of Modern Warfare 2. I played it a couple of hours and then I had to go back for my UC2 fix. I still haven't put MW2 back in.

duplissi3492d ago


umm...... you havent been playing games for very long have you?
ever hear of the unreal series... you know the one that the unreal engine is named after? most of those games are awesome. dont discredit epic just because of gears, they are very talented developers.

ShadowCK3492d ago

The sound of butthurt here is amazing. PS3 Fanboys here are so weak and pathetic it's laughable watching them try to sabotage a game which they have no knowledge about.

Gears of war 1 destroyed Uncharted 1. Without question.

Uncharted 2 is nothing more than a glorified Gears of war clone with straight forward platforming and a multiplayer stolen directly from Gears of war. That means it will never be on the level of games like Halo, GTA IV, Gears or Mass Effect due to it's lack of originality. The gameplay is jacked right from Gears, everything down to how the weapon select looks. It's sort of a mix of a bunch of games that already exist, and that's working against it.

The only thing Uncharted 2 has better than Gears of war 2 was that it had better graphics, but what do you expect from a game which is one year ahead of the other? Seriously, How pathetic.

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Michael Myers3493d ago

....into history for making one of the greatest games ever made.

GLoRyKnoT3493d ago

Cliffy has NO chance to EVER support the Gears community like ND has w/ UC2! - No F-in WAY! & he has no intentions on doing so. But let the boy have his dreams:) CliffyB's actual quote/thought process> "Ride my hype train & line my pockets" I don't think so:P

Lord Vader3493d ago

It seems that they were talking about The Escapist’s 2010 March Mayhem: Developer’s Showdown. a fan-voting tournament on Both of Epic games and Naughty Dog are matched up in a bracket.

movements3493d ago

That's some big talk there haha. Where's my popcorn? So it begins....

immortal843493d ago

will be huge. But lets wait and see.

bilbobob3493d ago

unless its on more than one DVD. (see what I did there)!

Foxgod3493d ago

Interesting, Epic their next project must be looking damn good, For Cliffy to be so confident.

Bring it on :)

Corrwin3493d ago

CliffyB gets confident when he has milk with his cereal. He's very easily impressed.

The Maxx3493d ago

"He's very easily impressed." - That doesn't give much credit to Naughty Dog and their GOTY Uncharted 2.

Corrwin3493d ago

It doesn't detract credit from them either. Easily impressed people are impressed by truly impressive things, as well as anybody else.

The comment was about Cliffy, not Naughty Dog. Please try not to be so defensive that you forget how the English language works.

JeffGUNZ3493d ago

That's his job. He is suppose to be excited and proud of the work he is doing. He is getting the fans eager for this game. I like Cliffy to some extent. But, if he doesn't have Gears of War 3 on dedicated servers, I am renting this game at best.