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Play.TM: MAG Review

On the surface, MAG appears to be little more than a standard military FPS with a rather special gimmick. And while that is certainly the case to some degree, there's more to MAG than meets the eye. The control system might misfire and it might whiff of 'been there, done that', but when the FPS action is as accomplished and solid as MAG's is, there's plenty of enjoyment to be had especially if you're fortunate enough to assemble a crack team of mates to play with. 255 mates though? That's a bit of a stretch. Better get on Facebook now.

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blitz06235584d ago

so where is mesh1's FLOP FLOP FLOP post? I guess he has a brain too since 8/10 is no where near a flop. He would only post those things on 7 and below.

On topic, good score. That's what I would expect from early reviews like this one.

callahan095584d ago

8 is a good score, but I still think it's too early for these reviews. They're not based on the patched retail version, they haven't experienced every map, they haven't had the chance to go into any depth with it. All these reviews are based on superficial impressions right now, so I'll just continue to take them with a grain of salt.

darthv725584d ago

The selling point of this game is the amount of players. The number or variation of maps really is not as significant as the total number of players in a single session.

I think most reviewers are going to see it for what its worth. A "massive action game" with emphasis on player capacity than jaw dropping visuals and originality.

Nothing wrong with an 8.

sinncross5584d ago (Edited 5584d ago )

Agreed.

I mean, you cant even do 256 games im told without reaching a certain level first.

The game has been out for not even a day... how many ppl do you think have reached the level for 256 players matches?

baum5584d ago

Nasim (iron_sheik) is harassing me by PM even though I love my PS3 a lot more than my 360 or Wii, how do I get him banned?

xabmol5584d ago

Giving a review score off a BETA and a 2 hour press event for a huge online only, heavily level-up/rank based game that would take weeks to get anywhere in, is like giving a review score for WoW after playing for less than a day.

soljah5584d ago

i agree with "its to early to review a game like mag".but the author of this review seems to get the game right. he understands what zipper is doing even giving them credit for not just turning out another socom or generic shooter 101 and moving the shooter and online gaming in general forward to the 21th century. MAG's appeal is much deeper then most shooting games out there, maybe not for everyone but for those that understand mag and have a good list of friends to play with it is very addicting,

onanie5584d ago

The large player capacity in itself could be a basis for originality, especially the hierarchical aspects of it. But, things do easily escape you, don't they?

Snoogins5584d ago

I didn't give a crap about this game, which is why I avoided the beta. However, recently, I'm actually growing a lot of interest in it. The reviews are questionable in that they seem to be based on initial impressions and bad experiences with noobs instead of giving the game more time and judging it on its inherent merits. Screw the reviews, though. I may end up getting this game yet, as it looks like a fun experience with a lot of depth when you dig beneath the initial impressions.

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Kakihara5584d ago

Mag seems to be like communism. It's a fine idea in theory but just entirely impractical. There would be nothing cooler for military shooter fans than a game in which large organized squads fought a real tactical war. The trouble is, anyone who's ever played any game online knows this just ain't gonna happen. At least not to the level that it will work.

You may as well release an Internet game in which people sit around intelligently and maturely discussing the problem of racism and homophobia in our society.

raztad5584d ago

You can say the same about capitalism, or do you think everybody is happy and having three foods/day in this world?

MAG is a good idea, masterfully realized. No lag, very technical and fun, its only "error" it's not to be very casual friendly but casuals already have MANY games to choose from, isnt it?

Callahan above is right when he points out it's way to early to pass judgement on a game that is barely starting to form fanbase. In a week, when the dust settle people will be playing the game the right way. I know because I went through that in the beta.

ryuzu5584d ago

Just because it hasn't been tried yet doesn't mean it shouldn't be tried does it?

Zipper have taken a gamble and gone further than anyone else for a long time and so far, all reviewers agree it works.

May not be to everyone's taste though, but if a community develops it will be worth the risk. Zipper have successfully provided the tools, now it's up to the players.

If it gets the kind of following SOCOM (even Confrontation) has then we're in good shape.

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cmrbe5584d ago

However you got to start from somewhere some how.

Knowing the SOCOM community. This game will achieve squad based tatical gameplay and become the biggest and best PS3 online game. The only other game that might rival it on PS3 is the next Warhawk or starhawk.

Kakihara5584d ago

Okay, maybe I was a little harsh on it. I'm sure if an Internet community that exists outside of the game itself manages to organise squads to play against each other in closed games that keep out kids who join for two minutes at a time and run around shooting anything it could be great. I'm just saying usually, even if a game is super hardcore it doesn't really keep away the casual gamers. It simply means they'll join, complain a little and be all the more annoying. If the game has the option for closed battles and if enough people get behind it I can see how it would be fine.

cmrbe5584d ago

No, as i said. Fair point. However i am just poining out that even if MAG inherits a fraction of the SOCOM community which it will. MAG preorders are higher than any other PS3 shooter btw. You got to start from somewhere. SOCOM is they most tatical shooter i have ever played.

sikbeta5584d ago (Edited 5584d ago )

"There would be nothing cooler for military shooter fans than a game in which large organized squads fought a real tactical war. [The trouble is, anyone who's ever played any game online knows this just ain't gonna happen]"

The Game Mechanics don't let you go and fool around like in other MP games, obviously you can play as a Rambo wannabe and get killed so easily cuz you're not "following the rulz", so you'll never gain Experience and forget about progress in the game, so what's the point or why someone will spend $/€60 on this game to play like a jerk?

I know that in every game exist a Dumb-kid that want to F#ck up the game, but this Game is Massive, so it'll a minor issue ...

onanie5584d ago

Ideas could fail, but without fine ideas, could there even be a fine outcome?

MAG is a fine idea nonetheless, and having experienced it, it does appear to be a fine outcome.

While it is reasonable to have a certain level of skepticism, one should think about rewarding innovation, out of respect for a more diverse gaming future. Of note, MAG isn't necessarily about the number 256, but about the hierarchical organisation of the players - something which has never been done before on this scale.

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happy_gilmore5584d ago (Edited 5584d ago )

why didn't i hear that when you were reviewing modern glitchfare 2 and failo odlc?

mag is a hardcore game. that's its only fault. reviewers want easy games. that's how prince of persia got high scores.

Aclay5584d ago

For a game that's as in depth as MAG, I think it's still rather early for a review that best represents the game... I mean, GameSpot posted their Killzone 2 review a good week or two after most other major sites did so that they could spend a good chunk of time with the Multiplayer.

The best representative reviews of MAG will probably be the ones that come out several days from now or later on after that b/c I doubt someone could get the most out of an MMO like MAG in just a day, especially since the Servers didn't go live until last night/early this morning.

For now I think it'll end up somewhere in the Low-Mid 80's on Meta once all the reviews are in.

cmrbe5584d ago

and then offcourse there is WKC and FF13. Sometimes having a choice can be a bad thing.

sikbeta5584d ago

@cmrbe

MAG, this Game is HUGE.... for obvious reasons... XD

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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MAG was one of the most ambitious shooters ever and deserves a PS5 sequel

Zipper Interactive were once one of Sony's most important studios and became a household name due to their work on the SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs series during the PlayStation 2's heyday. Their most ambitious title was MAG. Could it make a comeback?

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yellowgerbil1931d ago

Best game ever. I had put over 1700hrs into that game before it deteriorated too far with cheaters getting out of the map and sadly decided it was time to let it die (Zipper had already been closed down by that time).

_SilverHawk_1931d ago

Amazing game. Hopefully sony makes a sequel

XisThatKid1931d ago

This is the game in modern gaming that even got me into shooters i spent literally days with this game Raven All the way. War against the the mighty D ride oh so edgy S.V.E.R.

NecrumOddBoy1931d ago

Original Battle Royale. No microtransactions. Definitely ahead of time.

XBox4eva691931d ago

It's almost as far from battle royale as you can get. o_O

frostypants1931d ago

It didn't have a BR mode.

Da12RespectA1930d ago

That wasn't a battle royale game at all.

rdgneoz31930d ago

3 teams of 32 fighting it out would be considered Battle Royaleish. If you're gonna saying teams are OK when you start doing teams of 2 or 3 or 4, then 32v32v32 should work. And on besides that, it had 128 v 128 which was insanely fun.

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Muzikguy1931d ago (Edited 1931d ago )

I personally hadn't played much of it. I did spend a lot of time in PlanetSide 2 though (somewhat like MAG). Games like these tend to get overrun by cheaters and then ruined too often.

Teflon021931d ago

MAG didn't have that issue as far as I remember. I use to love the 256 matches. That game had an amazing community. Everyone actually communicated and played together. No one B****ed at the team. Everyone understood there was so much going on that if things are going wrong. Everyone had to think of new strategies.
Fav moment was when all 3 other squads 32 took their objectives but we were struggling with ours and had one more to blow up. The other leaders were communicating asking if the 2 nearest squads should send ppl. Our leader was like Naw I got a idea. So he told us all to die and set ourselves at the nearest hills prone without being seen. So we all did and surrounded the areas.
He said everyone on his count throw your grenades. Then snipers go all out and everyone else run in. They won't be able to get everyone and if needed the snipers go in about 10 seconds after.

Everyone did that and I got to the objective and set it off. 9 of us survived and got it. felt amazing to say I got the objective, cover me in that moment. Wish it was PS4 so I could have saved that moment
It was literally the coolest moment I had in a online shooter, closest since was BF4.

Muzikguy1931d ago

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That does indeed sound like an awesome moment. One that makes games like these memorable for sure. It does seem like MAG had a lot more cooperation than most any online shooter

Teflon021931d ago

It did because you absolutely can't get no where in it without teamwork. It also didn't have an extremely big base of players. Everyone who played really wanted to play. I really hope they bring it back and do the same thing to only have serious players get into the big matches again

UltraNova1931d ago

Wow, what a run! This game looks better than PUBG!

Muzikguy1931d ago

Watching that video you wouldn't think the game was on PS3.

Spenok1931d ago

I adored this game too. Some of my best FPS online memories on it. So freaking good.

I'd love to see another game like this come out at some point. And NOT like Planetside... M.A.G. was something special.

yellowgerbil1931d ago

Yeah problem is if it existed now adays, it would likely be riddled with xp boosts and dance moves and all that other pay garbage...
MAG and Warhawk are the only 2 online games I ever got into, and both need a PROPER sequel on PS5.
Remember the first time I got 100 kills in a match, was in a turret with a repair kit and just mowed down wave after wave on Valors map.

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PrinceOfAnger1931d ago

I had so much fun with this game

TGGJustin1931d ago

This is a game that was ahead of its time. Had it came out on PS4 it would've done much better. I put hundreds of hours into this despite the problems it had on PS3.

UnholyLight1931d ago

Really interesting as an Xbox owner at the time. This game had captured my interest as a kid but I never got a chance to play it. Being on PS4 and soon possibly PS5, I would love to see this franchise brought back to life. I imagine with the power of next gen it would be really quite fun.

From what I hear and what I remember, this game was FAR ahead of it's time. A real shame it never truly took off from my understanding.

grifter0241931d ago

I'm an xbox boy since mech warrior but got a ps3 slim for mag. If you liked halo or cod you'd have had a blast in mag. Was one of the first games you could actually do something other than shooting and still make a difference in game.

spicelicka1930d ago

PS4 needs something like it. In the multiplayer space it's far behind the Xbox, there are no quality multiplayer games on it that aren't on other consoles.

Dirtnapstor1931d ago

Yes, yes, and yes. Way ahead of it's time. Would love to see a PS5 variant of this game.

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Modern Warfare Ground War mode has MAG vibes

Erina Rose, Sausage Roll writes, "Call of Duty: Modern War introduced a new, improved, Ground War game mode this weekend that reminds us of the old PlayStation 3 classic, MAG."

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ilikestuff2056d ago (Edited 2056d ago )

I never played mag, I did play this beta however, and if mag was like this beta then (fart noises) for mag.

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TheGamez1002056d ago

Man do I miss mag and zipper.

TheSinsibleOne2056d ago

Seriously though. Nowadays this and next gen are practically begging for a new MAG.

zodiac9092056d ago

How did we go from having games like resistance 1, 2, warhawk with 30 vs 30 player battles, and M.A.G. with 128 vs 128 players, ON LAST GEN to now having 20 vs 20...such a step back.

JEECE2056d ago

Because Sony hadn't figured out how to market their exclusives yet. Plus at that time COD craze was at its peak. So "generic high school bro #7," who was the primary purchaser of FPSs at that time (or at least represented a crowd necessary to sustain a playerbase), if he even had a PS3, would have just seen a game like MAG as a "copycat of Black Ops, man."

Not to mention MAG was pretty terribly uninviting for new people after awhile, because it was more skill-based. This was great for veterans, but if you weren't willing to put in the time getting destroyed for awhile, you would never appreciate the game. The Battlefield: Bad Company and BF:3 games out during that gen were far more accessible to lower level players.

Vegamyster2056d ago

Battlefield 4 was at the start of the generation and had 64 players, to me it depends more on how the map/gameplay is utilized, i enjoyed the 20vs20 modes more in the MW Beta than the 64 player ground war mode.

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moomoo3192056d ago

It feels absolutely nothing like MAG lol. Way more battlefield vibes

xX-oldboy-Xx2056d ago

And even those are very small vibes, it still feels like COD at the end of the day.

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MAG: The Greatest Game You Never Played

Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out and most of you probably never heard of it, never got to play it and never will.

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FiLTHY ESKiMO2175d ago

Who would the next gen version nor that Zippers gone?

_SilverHawk_2175d ago

I remember this game and it was amazing. I would like it if Sony would make another one because this game was ahead of it's time.

RememberThe3572174d ago

It was an amazing concept and it was a cool game, it was just ahead of it's time. I played the sh!t outta MAG, but the game itself played just okay. I'd love to have seen a sequel, even just a spiritual successor, especially with the next gen coming and the way cloud computing has advanced a game like that nowadays would be awesome.

Elwenil2174d ago

It may have been amazing if you played for SVER, but if you played for Raven or Valor, it was an unbalanced mess. I had some fun with it, but the player count was an illusion at best and false advertising at it's worst. The map and faction balance was so ridiculously skewed you knew who was going to win as soon as you saw what team you were against. It definitely had some interesting ideas, but was far from an amazing experience in my opinion. I would have much rather Zipper have made another SOCOM game rather than MAG.

darthv722174d ago

that game would make for a great battle royale release. So many players all at once... it was ahead of its time for a console shooter.

TheGamez1002175d ago

Was such an underrated game. One of my most favorite fps of last gen. So unfortunate zipper was closed down. Imagine if it was a success and thered be a 2nd game by now.....

TekoIie2175d ago (Edited 2175d ago )

I can think of many better games that I've yet to play...

"Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out"

HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better. I'm afraid that MAG is basically your standard FPS but uses scale as it's selling point. The vast majority of shooters that focus on smaller scale matches have gameplay leaps and bounds better than MAG so it is definitely not the greatest FPS.

I know many people are going to try and refute this by telling me to look at the three factions but MAG has literally no character. The game is call 'Massive. Action. Game' for gods sake which is a contender for 'The Worst Title a Game Could Have' award. I've never been a fan of Zipper but I hear great things about them from their PS2 days. However, with MP gaining popularity in the generation that followed I think it says a lot that they couldn't keep up with the competition.

Knushwood Butt2175d ago

'HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better.'.

It was released years later.

Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?

TekoIie2175d ago

"Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?"

Yes, Planetside 1.

Knushwood Butt2175d ago

Fair enough.

Can't say I've played it, but I enjoyed MAG for a while.

FantasticBoss2174d ago

MAG was one of the very few games trying to do scale like it did, but I think it missed the mark. Wish it could have had a sequel though as they may have been able to iterate on it to create something pretty neat.

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Profchaos2173d ago

Sony had a awesome approach to online in the PS2 days with SOCOM co op that had games working together to achieve a tactical goal they pioneered voice chat on the PS2 for SOCOM but as they steamrolled ahead it was clear team Deathmatch would take over in popularity which shifted zippers approach so all their experience amounted for not much when designing online in the PS3 era.
It still was a decent game but couldn't stand out compared to cod which had millions of players consistently

yellowgerbil2175d ago

Loved mag had over 1700hrs into it across many accounts, remember my first 100 kill sabotage game, was insane

BLow2174d ago

Yes, so do I and not that game they released on PS3. I'm talking the one Zipper did and not Slant Six. At least Slant Six tried to do the series justice once they fixed the issues.

The one Zipper did didn't feel like Socom to me. It felt more like Ghost Recon to be honest. I absolutely loved the voice commands and I figured they would be even better on next gen hardware. They didn't even bother doing anything.

Maybe, I just wanted it more grounded and not so techy if that makes sense. I just wanted to go into jungles or missions just using my wits and patience and not have to use a bunch of gadgets. I wanted to be able to give orders with my voice to squad members. Yeah, they can at least have earpieces lol.

It's hard to explain but I know the old school Socom players know what I'm saying. Socom just had a certain feeling and the new game didn't feel that way. Slant Six yes. Zipper no...

We can only hope but if they bring it back they have to do it right. If not don't bother and just make something new. I rather have the memories I had with Socom be mostly positive than negative. Unless you pull a God of War, don't bother lol.

I've already said too much but that goes to show how much I loved Socom. Especially 1 and 2.....

Deathdeliverer2174d ago (Edited 2174d ago )

Game was simply ahead of its time. If mag came out now with improved graphics people would be blown away. Back then people whined about the graphics even though it had players literally everywhere. It was several great games in one. Battlefield, Ghost Recon, and Call of duty.

Hungryalpaca2174d ago

What exactly was it ahead of its time in? Player count? Planetside released in 2003 and and played count per match was over 300.

xkvcq2173d ago (Edited 2173d ago )

The BETA for MAG was one of my fondest gaming moments. I was highly anticipating the start of the beta servers but I had school that day. I had started downloading it that morning as soon as it was available and just when it finished downloading I found out school was cancelled, last minute, because of weather. BEST. SNOW DAY. EVER. I played the beta all day, continuing to put off my homework :P

TekoIie2173d ago (Edited 2173d ago )

Well have I got news for you pal! Planetside 2 has been available for nearly 4 years on the PS4 and longer on PC and people still aren't blown away. Maybe the novelty of scale is actually overrated and people don't care as much about it which is why MAG failed when multiplayer shooters were at peak popularity during it's lifetime?

If you were blown away by 256 players in 2010 why would you not have been blown away by 1000 roughly 2-3 years later?

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