Forza 3 vs NFS: SHIFT comparison - Silverstone and Laguna Seca

Gameswire has uploaded a direct screenshot comparison between Forza 3 and Need for Speed: SHIFT, showing the Audi RS4 driving around Laguna Seca, and the Nissan Skyline R34 driving around Silverstone.

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GR8 13295d ago

Why are there so many its not gonna change peoples mind on which to buy.

From Metacritic

Need for speed shift:84

Forza Motorsport 3:93

Tells its own story, i tried shift demo and it looked awful compared to forza 3 demo,Im sure people who played both would know.

talltony3295d ago

You can see in the windows in shift but can barely see inside the black windows in forza 3.

Another note based off of the forza 3 demo you cant look around in the interior of the car. When you look left or right in the incar view it jumps to a outside camera so it doesnt have to render any of the interiors too much. It is the complete opposite in shift.

ArcticWolfUK3294d ago

i played both, both games have shiny plastic cars, nfs got better damage n gameplay. but forza has more depth.

at the end of the day

borgome3294d ago

Look at all those jaggies on the PS3 version.

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gameangel3295d ago

Reviews are all well and good, but it's nice to see the games' relative detail next to each other.

Well, it is for me anyway.

jack who3295d ago

Need for speed shift try to use psn on xbl nuff said

danthegardner3295d ago

not nuff said, because I don't have the game and I don't know what you mean.

Noctis3295d ago

shift looks better to me, IMO :/

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Hellsvacancy3295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

Silverstone? SWEET thats 5 miles from where i live (Northampton)

Arthur_3295d ago

Enjoy your motion blur effects lol.
Shift aint got nothin on Forza.
But nice try EA. :) You get an E for Effort.

MrJack3295d ago

Talk about sterile environments, GT5:P had more life thn this.

darkequitus3295d ago

1. Play them both side by side and the difference in frame rate is so apparent.

2. NFS:S is blur. If that is better for you, then good luck

3. Forza's 3 Scenery is clearly more detailed and the cars.

4. You are probably one of these people that anything Microsoft is -ve

5. I will take the word of as they know about racing games, because that is all they do.

SuperM3295d ago

In defense of Forza 3, it does run at 60 fps so naturally shift should look better. However there is no way Forza is beating GT5 in graphics, not even remotely close.

siyrobbo3295d ago

having played both i can say that forza is much better than shift as a whole, the graphics are nicer, the game plays soooo much better, the handling etc

shift is good for a need for speed game, but thats not really saying much

Kattleox3295d ago

the exterior is Forza's epitome. I'd like to see some interior views: thats where NFS really shines. The interiors surpass even the ones that were in GT, IMHO.

Shift also has a far superior sense of speed than Forza, and I'd have to say GT also. Its the first racing sim I have played that actually feels like driving feels. If it had more than 60 cars (20 less than Prologue) I would have bought it by now.

VanHalen3295d ago

Thats what ive been trying to tell some of these Forza kid fanatics!

soxfan20053295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

"Microsoft first party exclusive bested by EA multiplatform title."

Ignorant statement as usual. The only thing NFS has over Forza is slightly better graphics. Based on how each game plays, it's clear that EA made many sacrifices in the areas of physics and control in order to obtain those better graphics. Of course, I don't blame EA - after all, NFS is an arcade racer and Forza is a sim. Arcade racers are supposed to look better and control worse.

I guess if you're shallow enough to care only about graphics in a racing game, you would think the way you do.

"Bested"? In your dreams.

N4G king3295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

but turn 10 used to say
1- forza is the best racing sim in everything
2- forza is the only racing sim this gen or year or whatever

and now you come around and say
"The only thing NFS has over Forza is slightly better graphics"

it looks like turn 10 and forza fans that used to hype the game (with all that bullshots turn10 used to show) are now eating their words

and this is only to a multiplat
what happens when GT5 comes out ??
I don’t think they'll appear at all

Darkseider3295d ago

You stated:

"Ignorant statement as usual. The only thing NFS has over Forza is slightly better graphics."

That's the whole point of this SCREENSHOT comparison. Nothing else. So you have just admitted what everyone else had just said. NFS:Shift looks better than Forza 3.

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soxfan20053295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

You just don't get it. If Turn 10 had sacrificed realistic physics and control as EA did, Forza 3 could have easily outshined NFS graphically. Fortunately, Turn 10 realizes that accurate physics and control are FAR more important that graphics. Besides, Forza 3 still looks great. You don't average a 93 review score unless you get nearly everything right.

HolyOrangeCows3295d ago

You call those bumper car reactions ''physics''?

N4G king3295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

"accurate physics"

yah like driving in 120 MPH and slamming in to a wall well only scratch your paint

maybe the remote damage physics that is more accurate

nah it got to be the rollover physics that turn10 and xboxfanboys used to hype
oops ... sorry
its this one

Darkseider3295d ago

No YOU just don't get it. This is a SCREENSHOT comparison, i.e.: How the game LOOKS. Not how the game plays. I never once said anything about game play but stated the same thing you did. NFS:Shift looks better. No more, no less.

EvilBlackCat3294d ago (Edited 3294d ago )

Noctis said - "shift looks better to me, IMO :/"

Ok is your opinion alright cool but to see 22 agrees on in that post makes me wonder... Did all of them play Forza 3 demo and Need For Speed Demos?

I am really stunt right now on how this site is full of IGNORANT Biased gamers.

Come on for real?! Really?! NFS Shift better than Forza3?

You guys make Gamer Zone equal to Open Zone.

When you drive a car in NFS Shift is like driving a Crazy Horse. The game is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from reality in every aspect and believe me the graphics in that game suck.

For real PS3 biased gamers your comments are not going to make Forza fans walk away for Forza 3 and believe me everyone in my Xbox Live List that try NFS Shift send me messages about their opinion on NFS Shift and all of them was bad news about NFS and its 63 gamers in my list who are Racing simulation fans.

What the hell i try NFS Shift on PC, PS3 & Xbox360 and SORRY BUT YOU GUYS ARE FULL OF SH_T. NO way... NFS Shift is NOT better than Forza 3.

Forza 3 Smash NFS Shift in all fronts. Come on people stop been ignotant fanboys and start acting like gamers.


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1.19 - Forza 3 looks better to me.
But I am surprised at how close it really is. I was expecting Forza to blow away Shift.

I was expecting Forza to blow away... Dude! do you own an HDTV?

Did you even try the Demos?

Bashing Forza 3 so hard is doing nothing to the reputation of Forza 3.
Every Racing fan i know have share the same opinion with me... Gran Turismo "Great Racing Game" NFS Shift a good example of the what the word "Evade" really means and Forza 3 "Racing Sim Hardcore Porn" in consoles.

-I wonder what will be the opinion of PS3 gamers in this site if Forza 3 was exclusive to the PS3 or PC platform only.-

RememberThe3573294d ago (Edited 3294d ago )

But I am surprised at how close it really is. I was expecting Forza to blow away Shift.

@EvilBlackCat: Cool your jets buddy. I'm not bashing Forza(not really sure where you got that from). I haven't played either Shift or Forza 3 so I'm not saying I'm an expert.

Plus, you really don't make any sense. I expect your bubble to fade quickly...

Xbox Avatars Shoe3294d ago (Edited 3294d ago )

"shift looks better to me"

That's IMPOSSIBLE! The definitive racing game this generation can't be outdone by a multiplatform title!

/sarcasm and /Turn 10's credibility

ultimolu3294d ago

Lol and the Forza guys. xD

Shift does look better. :)

MNicholas3294d ago

Shift's visuals are on a much higher plane than either. It's obvious.

Then again, it's rendering half as many frames per second which means that it should be able to render twice as much detail in each frame.

However, it isn't pushing twice the detail of Forza 3. This means that, despite looking worse than Shift, Forza 3 wins from a technical standpoint by running at twice the frame-rate while having more than half the detail.

beardpapa3294d ago (Edited 3294d ago )

@ Mnicholas

you are perhaps one of the more rational people here on n4g. Have a bubble.

Though question, have you personally played both Shift & F3 demos? I personally would say Shift looks visually better, but I do not like its artistic approach and would rather prefer the subtlety in F3 & GT.

edit: forget to mention I played F3 on the 360 obviously, and the Shift demo on PS3. According to the census, multiplats generally look better on the 360, so that in mind I wonder if the 360 version of Shift looks even better. If it does, I think that would say much in regards to topic of this thread.

MNicholas3294d ago (Edited 3294d ago )

look noticably better than Forza 3. Shift has much better lighting, is pushing a bit more geometry, has much better textures, and far more post-processing effects, and the differences are even more marked in the c*ckpit view.

However, it's important to keep in mind that Forza 3 is running at a true 60fps while Shift is only running 30fps. Performance is measured by how much is accomplished in a given amount of time, like polygons per second, megabits per second, frames per second, etc....

This is how much time hardware has to render 1 frame of gameplay video for these games:

Shift: 33.33 ms to render 1 frame (1sec/30fps)
Forza: 16.67 ms to render 1 frame (1sec/60fps)

When you take this into account, it's fair to say that Forza 3, despite having inferior graphics, is actually doing more from a purely technical standpoint.

In other words, if Turn10 had settled for 30fps they could literally throw twice as many polygons on the screen, twice the texture resolution, twice the effects, etc...

Arthur_3294d ago

Shift looks better than GT5.

see how ridiculous it sounds?

EvilBlackCat3294d ago

Bashing Forza 3 saying NFS Shift looks better its not going to hurt Forza 3 sales and reputation. Racing fans know Forza 3 its lookis better than NFS Shift.

Check @ 4:13 - 5:13

Dareaver13294d ago

This site is extremely biased, and then you have your standard 360 bashers.... MNicholas included.

They have nothing positive to say about any 360 game. He's been ragging on many of the Forza 3 articles. He doesn't like the game, and has no interest other then trashing the game.

He does have some intelligence, so don't take him for a blind fanboy, he's more or less a Grand Troll. It's sad when someone chooses to waste all their time following around a game they don't even like, just to let fans of that said game know how much he doesn't like it and why he thinks it's valid. Sad really, so sad.

And then you have your regular 360 bashing followers. Forza 3 is going to be great, check out the Eurogamer Review....

HOld up, let me get a quote from that great site:

"Whatever feature you think you might want in a racing game, Forza Motorsport 3 has it - and if you don't want it, it doesn't matter, because you can ignore it in favor of something else you do want. We laughed at the overuse of the word "definitive" at the game's E3 debut this year, but it's absolutely deserved - this incredibly rounded piece of software has wiped the smirk of our face and replaced it with a warm, if humbled, grin." - Eurogamer

They gave it a 9/10. It was a great and fair review....

Anywayz always keep it real. It's a shame that there are so little true gamers on this site. It's full of fanboys that have to trash one game or another.

I played the Shift demo, and was kind of turned off by it. I raced with the Nissan GTR, which is an AWD vehicle with an extremely advanced AWD system, that some how kept oversteering at every possible exit of a turn. And this is with the stock form of the vehicle. That is ridiculous. EA went to extremes to make the game really scary and exciting, but it's not realistic. Not only that, there is a clear difference with the frame rates.....

I prefer Forza 3 demo over Shift demo. And i will have Forza 3 day 1.

Can't wait....

MNicholas3293d ago

are an advanced version of GTR2 by SimBin.

If you like SimBin's GTR2, you'll love Shift.

Forza 2 had a mediocre physics system but I'll have to give Forza 3's retail copy a spin before I make a judgement.

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Godmars2903295d ago

So Turn 10 not only has realized that there are other racing games other than GT5, but they're coming out besides their own title?