Gameswire has uploaded a direct screenshot comparison between Forza 3 and Need for Speed: SHIFT, showing the Audi RS4 driving around Laguna Seca, and the Nissan Skyline R34 driving around Silverstone.
Why are there so many its not gonna change peoples mind on which to buy. From Metacritic Need for speed shift:84 Forza Motorsport 3:93 Tells its own story, i tried shift demo and it looked awful compared to forza 3 demo,Im sure people who played both would know.
You can see in the windows in shift but can barely see inside the black windows in forza 3. Example: http://www.gameswire.net/co... Another note based off of the forza 3 demo you cant look around in the interior of the car. When you look left or right in the incar view it jumps to a outside camera so it doesnt have to render any of the interiors too much. It is the complete opposite in shift.
DEFINITIVE!.. my ass.
i played both, both games have shiny plastic cars, nfs got better damage n gameplay. but forza has more depth. at the end of the day GT5>
Look at all those jaggies on the PS3 version.
Reviews are all well and good, but it's nice to see the games' relative detail next to each other. Well, it is for me anyway.
Need for speed shift try to use psn on xbl nuff said
not nuff said, because I don't have the game and I don't know what you mean.
shift looks better to me, IMO :/
Silverstone? SWEET thats 5 miles from where i live (Northampton)
Enjoy your motion blur effects lol. Shift aint got nothin on Forza. But nice try EA. :) You get an E for Effort.
Talk about sterile environments, GT5:P had more life thn this.
1. Play them both side by side and the difference in frame rate is so apparent. 2. NFS:S is blur. If that is better for you, then good luck 3. Forza's 3 Scenery is clearly more detailed and the cars. 4. You are probably one of these people that anything Microsoft is -ve 5. I will take the word of insidesimracing.tv/ as they know about racing games, because that is all they do.
In defense of Forza 3, it does run at 60 fps so naturally shift should look better. However there is no way Forza is beating GT5 in graphics, not even remotely close.
having played both i can say that forza is much better than shift as a whole, the graphics are nicer, the game plays soooo much better, the handling etc shift is good for a need for speed game, but thats not really saying much
the exterior is Forza's epitome. I'd like to see some interior views: thats where NFS really shines. The interiors surpass even the ones that were in GT, IMHO. Shift also has a far superior sense of speed than Forza, and I'd have to say GT also. Its the first racing sim I have played that actually feels like driving feels. If it had more than 60 cars (20 less than Prologue) I would have bought it by now.
Thats what ive been trying to tell some of these Forza kid fanatics!
"Microsoft first party exclusive bested by EA multiplatform title." Ignorant statement as usual. The only thing NFS has over Forza is slightly better graphics. Based on how each game plays, it's clear that EA made many sacrifices in the areas of physics and control in order to obtain those better graphics. Of course, I don't blame EA - after all, NFS is an arcade racer and Forza is a sim. Arcade racers are supposed to look better and control worse. I guess if you're shallow enough to care only about graphics in a racing game, you would think the way you do. "Bested"? In your dreams.
@1.10 but turn 10 used to say 1- forza is the best racing sim in everything 2- forza is the only racing sim this gen or year or whatever and now you come around and say "The only thing NFS has over Forza is slightly better graphics" it looks like turn 10 and forza fans that used to hype the game (with all that bullshots turn10 used to show) are now eating their words and this is only to a multiplat what happens when GT5 comes out ?? I don’t think they'll appear at all
You stated: "Ignorant statement as usual. The only thing NFS has over Forza is slightly better graphics." That's the whole point of this SCREENSHOT comparison. Nothing else. So you have just admitted what everyone else had just said. NFS:Shift looks better than Forza 3.
You just don't get it. If Turn 10 had sacrificed realistic physics and control as EA did, Forza 3 could have easily outshined NFS graphically. Fortunately, Turn 10 realizes that accurate physics and control are FAR more important that graphics. Besides, Forza 3 still looks great. You don't average a 93 review score unless you get nearly everything right.
You call those bumper car reactions ''physics''?
"accurate physics" ???? yah like driving in 120 MPH and slamming in to a wall well only scratch your paint lol maybe the remote damage physics that is more accurate http://www.youtube.com/watc... nah it got to be the rollover physics that turn10 and xboxfanboys used to hype http://www.youtube.com/watc... oops ... sorry its this one http://www.youtube.com/watc...
No YOU just don't get it. This is a SCREENSHOT comparison, i.e.: How the game LOOKS. Not how the game plays. I never once said anything about game play but stated the same thing you did. NFS:Shift looks better. No more, no less.
Noctis said - "shift looks better to me, IMO :/" Ok is your opinion alright cool but to see 22 agrees on in that post makes me wonder... Did all of them play Forza 3 demo and Need For Speed Demos? I am really stunt right now on how this site is full of IGNORANT Biased gamers. Come on for real?! Really?! NFS Shift better than Forza3? You guys make Gamer Zone equal to Open Zone. When you drive a car in NFS Shift is like driving a Crazy Horse. The game is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from reality in every aspect and believe me the graphics in that game suck. For real PS3 biased gamers your comments are not going to make Forza fans walk away for Forza 3 and believe me everyone in my Xbox Live List that try NFS Shift send me messages about their opinion on NFS Shift and all of them was bad news about NFS and its 63 gamers in my list who are Racing simulation fans. What the hell i try NFS Shift on PC, PS3 & Xbox360 and SORRY BUT YOU GUYS ARE FULL OF SH_T. NO way... NFS Shift is NOT better than Forza 3. Forza 3 Smash NFS Shift in all fronts. Come on people stop been ignotant fanboys and start acting like gamers. (LOOK RIGHT THERE APPARENTLY THE SONY DEFENSE FORCE IS HAVING A FEST WITH DISAGREES IN THIS POST) @ Below 1.19 - Forza 3 looks better to me. But I am surprised at how close it really is. I was expecting Forza to blow away Shift. I was expecting Forza to blow away... Dude! do you own an HDTV? Did you even try the Demos? Bashing Forza 3 so hard is doing nothing to the reputation of Forza 3. Every Racing fan i know have share the same opinion with me... Gran Turismo "Great Racing Game" NFS Shift a good example of the what the word "Evade" really means and Forza 3 "Racing Sim Hardcore Porn" in consoles. -I wonder what will be the opinion of PS3 gamers in this site if Forza 3 was exclusive to the PS3 or PC platform only.-
But I am surprised at how close it really is. I was expecting Forza to blow away Shift. Edit: @EvilBlackCat: Cool your jets buddy. I'm not bashing Forza(not really sure where you got that from). I haven't played either Shift or Forza 3 so I'm not saying I'm an expert. Plus, you really don't make any sense. I expect your bubble to fade quickly...
"shift looks better to me" That's IMPOSSIBLE! The definitive racing game this generation can't be outdone by a multiplatform title! /sarcasm and /Turn 10's credibility
Lol and the Forza guys. xD Shift does look better. :)
Shift's visuals are on a much higher plane than either. It's obvious. Then again, it's rendering half as many frames per second which means that it should be able to render twice as much detail in each frame. However, it isn't pushing twice the detail of Forza 3. This means that, despite looking worse than Shift, Forza 3 wins from a technical standpoint by running at twice the frame-rate while having more than half the detail.
@ Mnicholas you are perhaps one of the more rational people here on n4g. Have a bubble. Though question, have you personally played both Shift & F3 demos? I personally would say Shift looks visually better, but I do not like its artistic approach and would rather prefer the subtlety in F3 & GT. edit: forget to mention I played F3 on the 360 obviously, and the Shift demo on PS3. According to the census, multiplats generally look better on the 360, so that in mind I wonder if the 360 version of Shift looks even better. If it does, I think that would say much in regards to topic of this thread.
look noticably better than Forza 3. Shift has much better lighting, is pushing a bit more geometry, has much better textures, and far more post-processing effects, and the differences are even more marked in the c*ckpit view. However, it's important to keep in mind that Forza 3 is running at a true 60fps while Shift is only running 30fps. Performance is measured by how much is accomplished in a given amount of time, like polygons per second, megabits per second, frames per second, etc.... This is how much time hardware has to render 1 frame of gameplay video for these games: Shift: 33.33 ms to render 1 frame (1sec/30fps) Forza: 16.67 ms to render 1 frame (1sec/60fps) When you take this into account, it's fair to say that Forza 3, despite having inferior graphics, is actually doing more from a purely technical standpoint. In other words, if Turn10 had settled for 30fps they could literally throw twice as many polygons on the screen, twice the texture resolution, twice the effects, etc...
Shift looks better than GT5. see how ridiculous it sounds?
Bashing Forza 3 saying NFS Shift looks better its not going to hurt Forza 3 sales and reputation. Racing fans know Forza 3 its lookis better than NFS Shift. Check @ 4:13 - 5:13 http://www.insidesimracing....
This site is extremely biased, and then you have your standard 360 bashers.... MNicholas included. They have nothing positive to say about any 360 game. He's been ragging on many of the Forza 3 articles. He doesn't like the game, and has no interest other then trashing the game. He does have some intelligence, so don't take him for a blind fanboy, he's more or less a Grand Troll. It's sad when someone chooses to waste all their time following around a game they don't even like, just to let fans of that said game know how much he doesn't like it and why he thinks it's valid. Sad really, so sad. And then you have your regular 360 bashing followers. Forza 3 is going to be great, check out the Eurogamer Review.... HOld up, let me get a quote from that great site: "Whatever feature you think you might want in a racing game, Forza Motorsport 3 has it - and if you don't want it, it doesn't matter, because you can ignore it in favor of something else you do want. We laughed at the overuse of the word "definitive" at the game's E3 debut this year, but it's absolutely deserved - this incredibly rounded piece of software has wiped the smirk of our face and replaced it with a warm, if humbled, grin." - Eurogamer They gave it a 9/10. It was a great and fair review.... Anywayz always keep it real. It's a shame that there are so little true gamers on this site. It's full of fanboys that have to trash one game or another. I played the Shift demo, and was kind of turned off by it. I raced with the Nissan GTR, which is an AWD vehicle with an extremely advanced AWD system, that some how kept oversteering at every possible exit of a turn. And this is with the stock form of the vehicle. That is ridiculous. EA went to extremes to make the game really scary and exciting, but it's not realistic. Not only that, there is a clear difference with the frame rates..... I prefer Forza 3 demo over Shift demo. And i will have Forza 3 day 1. Can't wait....
are an advanced version of GTR2 by SimBin. If you like SimBin's GTR2, you'll love Shift. Forza 2 had a mediocre physics system but I'll have to give Forza 3's retail copy a spin before I make a judgement.
So Turn 10 not only has realized that there are other racing games other than GT5, but they're coming out besides their own title? Wow.
Shift looks better overall. The lines are cleaner with less jaggies both on the car models and backgrounds. The road surface is better looking and the lighting effects in most shots are nicer in Shift than Forza 3.
Forza 3 is the definitive racing title of this generation. Its absolutely perfect. Turn 10 says so.
I think it's safe to assume you own a ps3 and feel the need to convince yourself that NFS looks better when anyone (who is not a fanboy) could see the level of detail in the F3 shots compared to NFS. Still, go ahead, make yourself feel better. I wonder why some people even bother with children
which game runs at 60fps????
Unless you've played both games, you are comparing screenshots that represent 1/60th of a second of a game. A 70+ hour game, and people think they know which game is better based on 1/60th of a second.
Only on PS3 bots. Poor 360 can't handle car detail like that even in a cs.
from what i've played on my tv, the forza 3 demo craps on NFS:S
i downloa shift demo on my ps3, and forza 3 demo on my 360, forza 3 looks far better, and i dont those like that pictures. if i have time ill post a pic taken from a outside the tv, next article
oops, my english was messed up srry, was in hurry ( school time )
Like ive been saying. NFS looks just as good. I would like to see some in car views. That would be interesting. Thx to the poster for doing the comparison!
SHIFT is an awesome game, don't have 360 so any PS3 owner wanting a good racer it should tide you over for a bit.
The look of a game is subjective. Look at all the battles about madden over 2k football or NBA2k over NBA live. At the end of the day F3 comes out the end of this month and I and many others will enjoy the game. I played the NFS Shift Demo. I liked it but with FM3 right around the corner I wont be getting both. If you think Shift looks better cool..go buy it!! As a overall package. Who offers the better deal is the question I ask myself?
For An Extra £5 you can get a podter and 2 downloadabe cars 5Pound Forza You Get A 2nd Cd with How many cars and tracks plus dlc redeem codes that the people with copied games will miss out on
thats the most important. inside the drivers seat is sweet and car damage is insane. EA has more Experience in Racers and they use to Have the Nascar Licence. Forza 3 isnt even worth the $60 Dollars because Forza 2 is just $20 dollars and its the same exact game. At least Need For Speed Isnt afraid to Step up thier DEV Skills. This Racer is this Years Best.
Im not knocking your opinion. But when did you play forza 3 to determine it was LESS fun then Shift? Playing the limited DEMO doesnt count as a comparison against a full game (Shift) "At least Need For Speed Isnt afraid to Step up thier DEV Skills." And what does this mean exactly? IMO From the demo..Forza3 is a step in the right direction over what was Forza2
Doubt You Hve Played Forza
oh the irony a multi plat looks better than a 360 exclusive lol
are u blind?. sheesh
Jak_Poo you got it all wrong, Some guy was playing NFS:SHIFT on XBL but instead of connecting to the XBL it tried to connect to the PSN LMAO!!. Even XBL ants to the PSN.
IMO Forza 3 looks better
NFS wins this battle dynamic graphics, impressive levels .
you guys are hilarious, it doesn't matter what the PS3 fanboys think because they can't even play this game. And to the Forza fans, who cares what they think, you know what the games both really look like. I played them both on 360, and yes Forza is miles better looking than NFS, its silly to even ask, in fact the only people asking were PS3 fans because they could not play them both on the console to see for themselves. So relax guys and let these losers have their fun. OK ps3 kids, if it helps you sleep at night to think nfs looks better thn sweet dreams. ;)
I don't even know you but my respect for you just hit the roof.
Somebody Get This Guy A Bubble Bath...Well Said 100% True Personally If You Are A Drving Type Of Gamer And Are A PS3 Fan Boy Don't Miss Out Get An Xbox,Go 2 Your M8's Play The Demo This Game Is Great For fun i'd Compare It To Mario Kart And Thats Hard 2 Do Becuase Mario Kart Has No Boundries Forza Is Trying 2 Be Realistic
Shift blurs everything to make it look better, and let's not forget 30fps versus 60. It's a joke. Not even close. All you have to do is read the caption from the site: "For one of the two people involved in capturing these shots, the crisper, more clinical Forza 3 wins through: its textures are clearer, its use of special effects such as motion blurring far more subtle, and despite EA’s best attempts to surround Shift’s tracks with unnecessary bits, it still looks far more detailed. In a world obsessed with perfection, Forza 3 is the only choice."
The track quality on Forza silverstone is amazing bad, still getting it thou. Got rfactor, GTR 2, Race 07, GTR Evolution, Shift all GT, Forza 1 & 2 and soon Forza 3 and GT5 rFactor still the best Driving sim I've ever played
What a surprise! A Forza article overrun by fanboys? Well I never. Half of the posters here need to be recaptured and released back into the open zone. That way they can run free and reassure each other on their ignorance.
Personally after playing both demo's I preferred 'Forza 3' to 'Shift'.
The game with the shiniest cars is the best. The most robust career mode; the best community features, the most comprehensive MP mode, driving affecting damage model, customization/tuning features. None of those matter insidesimracing.tv/ and other are completely wrong. /Sarcasm The trolls are out in force today. You can't make a great game bad by swamping threads. Sorry to burs your bubble. Opp that would be anyone who likes this game. Don't forget to burst my bubbles when I praise GT% next year.
Is that Forza 3 looks better on top of that, I can clearly see that the detail on Forza's cars are better, not only that, the environment looks better and it runs at 60fps. Not to mention there;s more physics involved. The only thing I'll give to Shift is the lighting, that's it. You can't argue this to PS3 fanboys though, it's their agenda to downplay this game.
Where shift is leagues ahead of Forza 3 is the c0ckpit view.
BUT THE Co*kPit its self nfs worked on it like its a new feature lol not saying it don't look good but the inside of the car is better then the outside the roads the everything else in the game lol