Play-Mag: "The current issue of Play features an interview with BioWare CEO Dr Ray Muzyka, in which he talks about Mass Effect, Dragon Age and how much he loves the PS3. We couldn't fit it all into the mag, so here are some 'extras'…"
"The PlayStation 3 is a really amazing platform to work on, so is 360. Wii is as well. All of them are really advanced relative to the systems of 10-20 years ago". Just thought I would quote the whole sentence for you all.
Talking about spin it to get hits. Thank you for pointing your the entire quote.
lol, Selective quoting ftl. Thanks for the full quote holmes.
with only about 5% of the commentators reading the full quote..lol
Bubbles for you Johnny for keeping the fire low if ya know what I mean.
you already know
Thanks for the full quote...I read it and was going to do the same thing. Shame on the author for the selective and misleading title. Journalism at its best...Not!
Thanks for making that clear. People should make the effort to read the full article and then comment, rather than get emotional based on the excerpts. It could potentially be very misleading.
I already knew this was a Jack007 article by the spinning title
for keep it real.
I don't think it was spinning at all, actually. All of you have this wrong, and some of you are trying to spin it moreso in order to make people suspect that they wouldn't consider making a PS3 game such as, you know, MASS EFFECT 2!! Reason? Bioware had been thought of to not really want to do anything on the PS3. Thus, him saying that at ALL, in ANY context, is a big deal. Thus, the context doesn't matter in this case. Also, that's VERY significant, as I said, because of the game that they are making right now: Mass Effect 2. I have a feeling where all this praise for the PS3 from Bioware lately is leading towards at GDC09. EDIT: Oh, by the way, Jack007 had nothing to do with the title. It was the site that had that title (not that it was taking anything out of context anyway). @Dlacy13g Below: Give WHAT a rest? I'm giving my opinions on the article, and about the quote. The hell is so wrong with that? He clearly stated that he likes all consoles, and knowing Bioware's history (especially a ME dev), saying that about the PS3 IS a big deal. Then again, this is the same thing that I've been seeing out of a lot of people that seem to not want ME in any way on the PS3, trying to dilute anything that might make it possible. My question is why is it alright for systems to lose exclusivity to games unless it's a 360/PC game? Why is that logic of "it's still coming out for your system" changed when it's a 360 game in danger of losing that claim? Oh, and how do you know that they DON'T like the PS3 the most? Are you in the offices with them or anything? EDIT: Wow! Big people to slam disagrees on me because you don't like what I said and then run away! God, some of you people are unbelievable! @-EvoAnubis-: Again, there was nothing being taken out of context for hits here. You're trying to dilute the impact of this. They also talked about KOTOR and if it would be possible to port it to the PS3, and he gave a rather interesting answer to THAT, too (PC is focus, but consoles are a possibility). I know you guys are MUCH smarter than this! Oh, and 5 disagrees already! Wooooow! I didn't think the 360 defenders were out in full force today.
Dude give it a rest. The title CLEARLY makes the article sound like a Mass Effect developer is in love with the PS3. The actual statement made by the developer was not console specific at all...he gave props to all 3 consoles saying how all 3 are very powerful. Just stop...don't defend the article. You can't...its just an attempt to pull in the fanboys and generate buzz by making those reading it on N4g or seeing the title elsewhere think the dev likes the PS3 the most.
I hate it when they do things like that for hits.
Well, they are making Dragon Age Origins for the PS3. We've known they're working on PS3 with that title for a while now.
darkpower just yesterday tried to spin that the Fallout 3 increased sales to rank 1 on amazon.com had little to do with the super deal of the day at $35. You can read his comments and article here: http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend... What is the Fallout 3 sales on the PS3 today at amazon.com? It is at number 7 at a significantly reduced price of $47 and sells better than KZ2. Go figure... It's pretty clear that darkpower is a delusional Sony fanboy as evident of his posting above at that other thread. It is pretty darn clear that the title is misleading when you take a quote not only out of context, but mid sentence!
Go check my profile, man. I know not a lot of you bother to do so (maybe because that's too much work for you to do), but just look. I'm FAR from a fanboy! Maybe you should look up what a fanboy IS before you run around labeling people without a damn clue what you're talking about. Oh, and you STILL don't get the point of that Fallout 3 thing (DLC doesn't necessarily drive game sales for a particular system. Oh well, I can't help people who aren't willing to listen. It's still in the top ten, right? Where's the 360 version in comparison? I rest my case.
lolz, at the headline...its perfect for n4g. JOY
Look...I get that its your opinion. What I don't get is how you come to the conclusions you do from the ONLY spot in this article that mentions the PS3 is in the following section: " We’ve had to evolve along with the systems. PCs are a lot more interesting and technically more capable than they used to be, just as console systems are. The PlayStation 3 is a really amazing platform to work on, so is 360. Wii is as well. All of them are really advanced relative to the systems of 10-20 years ago. That’s why I think it’s exciting to be developing on any system right now in the videogame space. " How do you go from the above to this means its Mass Effect 2 for the PS3 and / or that this Dev. loves working on the PS3 the most? I just don't comprehend how you take the above and jump to the conclusions that you did. Did you actually read the whole article? I am not trying to be mean either...you just make a huge leap in your opinions.
Actually Dark Power you have it backwards. The title was spun to make it sound like there is some love affair between the PS3 and Bioware, moreso than the other systems; and then the article picture implying that it lends to the ME2 PS3 rumor. When in reality it sounds like he has no favorites and the whole quote when put in context is actually talking about how great making games on this generation of hardware is. Of course Bioware will have PS3 experience they are doing Dragon Age. PS: I'm sure the PS3 is an amazing platform to work on regardless.
Yep I saw the article then when I seen the submitter I checked for the truth. You have to do that with most contributors on this site but some stick out more than others and need to be checked. I'm glad somebody else mentioned it I have 2 bubbles because most the time I'm the one mentioning stuff like this.
As long as you are quoting the entire sentence, be sure to reread the part where he says "...TO WORK ON." That doesn't require spin. It is simple plain fact. The only question for the deniers is, if Bioware are not building Mass Effect 2 for the PS3, then what title are they building that provides the experience whereby Ray can state, "...TO WORK ON." The fact is Mass Effect 2 is coming to the PS3 and all of the denying, hoping, wishing, and stabbing an EA voodoo doll won't change that. EA said it was coming to multiple platforms. They didn't say dual platforms, they didn't say 360 and PC. They said multiple platforms. Every piece of logic says EA, in the midst of their financial woes, will not turn down a userbase that will be at 30 million when ME2 launches. But, until it gets put in black and white, enjoy your fits of self deception because they amount to nothing more than that. It is coming to the PS3 and the sooner you accept it the better you will be later on.
@darkpower Look, I'm not here to argue with you about what console is better. That is up to each individual person. My point is that you draw conclusion from things out of context and seemingly (to me) throws out stuff that is significant. It is obvious in this case that this is spun around. Even fanboys can't deny this. I mean come on, this is taken out of context and mid sentence. Read the article and suddenly it sounds completely different and nothing like what the title and summary suggest. It is a very neutral comment if anything. What more can I possibly say?
@Morganfail Did you ever hear of "Dragon Age:Origins"? Yeah, that is set to release BEFORE Mass Effect 2, if I'm not mistaken. That would be the title... TO WORK ON, like you say.
I'd like to state that I get what you're trying to say and in know way did it deserve that kind of response. At first I was thinking how stupid the title is in regards to what was actually said, but then it became obvious that they were trying to connect him working on the PS3 to Mass Effect 2. You saw this and came to the same conclusion, as did Morganfell. @Above except for already mentioned names: You're all a bunch of rabid fanboys! Why can't we have a normal conversation on N4G?
"lolz, at the headline...its perfect for n4g." Topic aside, it sums up exactly what I think of this site at times. Anyway, it's a nice interview. I don't think Bioware's making those "hardcore geek" titles as Doc Ray says, but they're still good games overall. Nothing imo has touched the depth and complexity of their older titles besides maybe KOTOR. But I suppose RPGs have evolved into different beasts altogether with the focus upon better graphics and spoken dialogue. Devs seem to want to deliver something closer to a movie these days. I think their games generally feel much shorter as a consequence. Hopefully, I'll see what Dragon Age has to say about that.
"it became obvious that they were trying to connect him working on the PS3 to Mass Effect 2." Yes, and that's what people are complaining about. Because no where is this actually mentioned in the article, Mass Effect 2 isn't mentioned at all, yet the post is still tagged as such. But if the article had lead - "Dragon Age developer - ...." it would have got way less hits. That's the issue. There is nothing here to suggest that they're developing ME2 for the PS3, yet the article tenuously tries to make a connection, without any basis. That being said, I hope that Mass Effect 2 will be multiplatform.
The PS3 is a natural choice for MMO developers because the online service has a 50% greater adoption rate than the Xbox 360's costly alternative. The interface questions he brings up are based on PC MMO users. Time and again we've seen that console gamers have completely different expectations. Sadly, in the world of business school style "methodology" based decision making, big decisions based on a lot of bad data and no common sense is preferred to a small amount of good data and a lot of common sense.
Is Bioware working on a IP for the PS3? For what that qoute says it sounds like they are. Or most likely a multi platform, if anybody can help me on this it would be much appreciated.
I get what darkpower is saying, alot of you tend to forget ther amount of people claming that ME2 was not coming to PS3, this dev is saying it is, so there no need for anymore arguments on that subject. Also I can see w3hy people would see this as flamebait, but the fact is we all now know that ME2 is going to be on the PS3.
He's being interviewed by a PS3 related person. Why would he not add them in his statement? If he didn't then it would have been a Major slam on PS3. This statement that Mass Effect is coming to PS3 is sooooooo speculative and made up that I cna't comprehend how anyone could read this article and truly think that is what he suggested!!!???
This is why I hate quoting.
I see what you're saying, but me and most people had no idea about any Dragon age multiplatform game, all of us know Mass Effect. I just thought it was a reasonable assumption especially since they are now owned by EA "the multiplatform" developer. @Legion: Speculating that an EA game is going to be multiplatform is not flamebait, it is common sense!
Even only partially quoted, it's good to see that some developers aren't afraid to counter the "PS3 is a b!tch to developer for" argument. Albeit, the dev was talking about how much of a pleasure it is to be a developer during this generation, it's better than those devs who say "PS3 is too hard" and then give up. I'm excited to see what Bioware has in store in the coming months. :)
What game is BioWare working on the ps3? Is Dragon Age coming to the PS3 and xbox 360? Because that game look interesting.
Yeah, Dragon Age is multiplatform. Which, to be fair, is probably the main reason he's saying this, nothing related to Mass Effect.
I'm kinda curious what they're doing on the wii. He mentioned that system as well.
The guy mentioned the PS3 maybe twice in the whole article and the author came up with "Mass Effect developer – 'The PlayStation 3 is a really amazing platform to work on.'" The least thing they could have done was use an ellipsis(...) to show that there was more. Did they think no one was going to read the article.
We all knew ME was coming to the PS3 it was obvious :)
It probably will in time and if it does it will definetly be a 360 timed exclusive and im guessing the PC and PS3 will realese at a similar time. Considering EA are publishing it, apart from Left 4 Dead (which was almost confirmed by OPM to be coming to PS3) I cant think of any 360 exclusives. All their games are multi-platform. So i dont think this will be different....However I could be wrong....
Hmmmm, I can smell a riot starting... 5... 4... 3... 2......... 1 ^___________________^ Back to topic: It's good that such great devs recognize it... now where is my Mass Effect ^^ I kid I kid XD
Mass Effect Trilogy for PLAYSTATION®3 oh noez! :)
"It's good that such great devs recognize it..." Had they said the PS3 sucked to develop for would you still have called them good developers?
^ ignorance is blind that's what I can say about ur comment. When did you know that previous products of a company are well made you can still trust that incoming product may comes with the same quality as the previous ones. You on the other side are a fool that try to sound smart but don't even comes close to adjective. Have a nice day ^^
I really don't know if your comment was aimed at me or what. Probably because it is gramitically FUBR. The phrase is actually "Ignorance if bliss" Not "blind". "When did you know that previous products of a company are well made you can still trust that incoming product may comes with the same quality as the previous ones." Uh...What? "You on the other side are a fool that try to sound smart but don't even comes close to adjective" That should be "you, on the other hand" not "other side". Also we normally do not say "come close to the adjective." We normally just say "come close" and leave it at that. Now, the next time you try to insult someone in a language that you obviously don't speak, you would have at least learned this much. And you have a nice day.
"The PlayStation 3 is a really amazing platform to work on" I can read that over and over again.
Yeah, it's funny how good developers never complain about the PS3 (apart from Valve who get a by as they are PC devs over all).
guess you guys missed the first comment
Valve SHOULDN'T get a free pass on saying the PS3 is tough to develop for because they've never developed for the PS3. They haven't made a single game for the PS3. The Orange Box for the PS3 was made by an EA studio, not Valve. Until they make an effort on the PS3, I don't give a damn what they have to say about it and how difficult they think it is to develop for (read: how difficult they like SAYING it is to develop for, because they have no first-hand experience to actually have a real opinion on the matter)
"guess you guys missed the first comment " The whole quote is irrelevant. Fact is Bioware like working on the PS3 as well as 360 and Wii. Quoting part of it changes nothing.
Wow, a topic that intends to start a flame fest by having ps3 fans taking things the wrong way... AGAIN. We had a million of these articles...
Here's the full quote again in case someone forgot (or just blocked it out). "The PlayStation 3 is a really amazing platform to work on, so is 360. Wii is as well. All of them are really advanced relative to the systems of 10-20 years ago"
just like those millions of 'the PS3 is dead or dying articles'. Still it moves on tho. dont see it dying. Hey go figure!
this bodes well for me . . . i havent played a bioware game since kotor and i freakin love kotor
KOTOR is one of my best games ever
A hint? I bet it is about something big coming.
Its a hint that Dragon age is coming.
Yeah, Dragon Age. Looks really good. Bioware going back to their roots.
He complements all 3 consoles but I still think ME2 is coming to the PS3, they just can't ignore a 21+ million fanbase anymore, unless MS has paid for exclusivity of the game which I doubt, possibly only timed exclusivity as with the case in Bioshock.
Back when Bioware was just Bioware they had a publishing deal with MS for Mass Effect and the trilogy. EA bought Bioware...AND EA and MS made a deal to transfer the publishing rights over to EA. Do you really think MS gave up some form of exclusivity for that IP? I am sure if nothing else this is going to be a 1yr timed exclusive much like Bioshock turned out to be.
Well you need to go back and look where Ray stated he never said ME was a 360 exclusive. They never had such a publishing deal either. http://www.joystiq.com/2008...
This could be a hint that Mass Effect is coming to the PS3.
I rest my case, the ps3 fans have been rolling in to take things the wrong way. Why dont you look up what other games Bioware might be developing ?
only own one console really want Mass Effect. I think this game will break a new record in sales if it is realsed Multi Plat.
Do you ever stop with the cry baby finger pointing? PS3 fans did this and PS3 fans did that and boooo hoooo its not fair waaaaaaaa.
Quit being a douche, man. We all game, and we are all prone to exaggeration, so stop acting like you are perfection incarnate. It's so easy for you to insult an entire generation of gamers based on a console, but I bet you cant take it half as well you like to think you dish it. The simple truth is, whether you game on an Xbox360, a PS3, or even so far as a Wii, you can always be prone to flights of fancy. I enjoy my games as well as anyone that owns only one console, and I refuse to slander anyone because they chose to go with one console, it is their choice, and choice should be respected. The same goes for any console owner that disrespects another console owner based on the brand of console. Why be a fanb0y and miss out on the greater aspects of gaming when you can enjoy them all.
PS3 fans would have to act like they got some sense first. No garbage no crying ... get it?
Dont be ignorant with biased slandering statements like that. We all know that there are fan-extremists on all sides. Take your comment for instance, notice how you imply that only people that own PS3s are guilty of making senseless comments, completely ignoring your own community, based solely on your slack-jawed comment. I wish I could see people like you face to face. I'm not small, I'm not biased, and I am definitely no push-over. I am tired of the useless crap-slinging, and e-peen comparisons from people on all sides, as the internet is bad enough without the FUD. I've always thought that the people spreading the FUD like wildfires, will eventually have to eat their words, so it's about time for the people doing the spewing, to start doing some chewing....get it?
has nothing to do with mass effect
The developers from Mass Effect loves PS3.... so it does.. but has nothing to do with the game.
Mass Effect developer : "The PlayStation 3 is a really amazing platform to work on" You hear that x-farts ? kiss your ME exclusivity goodbye... ROFL!