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Xbox Series S is now a real threat to PS5

It may have cost $7.5 billion dollars to make me realize it, but Microsoft’s Xbox Series S suddenly makes sense. Almost to the point where I’d consider it a genuine threat to Sony’s PS5.

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RaidenBlack1146d ago

Real threat to next-gen game development progress.
https://n4g.com/news/240776...

darthv721146d ago

However they are able to do it... this little engine seems to be holding its own (for now).

NealGamby1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

Seems Microsoft has tripled their PR budget recently.

Also, techradar has lost any credibility they might’ve had.

Babadook71146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@Neal

So true. And right on cue as stock starts to catch up with demand where people see Series S and X sitting on store shelves. Time to write some PR checks!

enkiduxiv1146d ago

Easy to do when they haven't released any next gen exclusives yet.

anubusgold1146d ago

@NealGamby
No 1440P is far easier to run than 4k. Even 5 year old graphics cards can get 70+fps ultra at 1440P

Babadook71146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@anubusgold

Yup. 5 year old graphics cards playing 5 year old games. How well do they run Death Stranding or Valhalla? (Never mind upcoming current gen games)

anubusgold1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

@Babadook7

No a GTX 1080 still runs todays games at 90fps at 1440P on ultra. You ps fanboys wanted to blocked being matched with pc players on Cod because you were getting your butts kicked with their higher refresh rates. Most of all games but cyberpunk get over 80 fps to 120 even on a 5 year old 1080. Even cyberpunk gets 45 fps at 1440P on high on a 5 year old 1080.

Babadook71145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

90 fps? Hahahaha. That's false. And the 1080 came out less than 5 years ago (4.5 years before PS5). In terms of performance a 2060 super (and therefore the 1080 as well) gets absolutely "bushwhacked by a PS5" https://youtu.be/m9LgfTr517... - so it doesn't handle last gen games at 1440p very well never mind 70-90 fps. Death Stranding is even harder on the 1080. And those are last gen games that can't maintain 60 fps with that gfx card. A 1080 also will be nowhere near equal to a PS5 in 2077, you just got to wait for the actual ps5 version to come out. And of course the real comparison will come when next gen games using advanced asset management come out like UE5 games.

anubusgold1144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

@Babadook7
You are a console noob so shut up its because most 1080 cards will over clock to 2101 my 1080 OC to 2159 with no extra voltage so you are just a butt hurt console fanboy and almost all benchmarks and comparisons never used the 1080 and 1080ti crazy overclock potential we get 30 percent extra performance for free when overclocking thats why its been hard to get people to upgrade.

Babadook71144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

@anubusgold

Poor butthurt little fanboy. Death Stranding runs way sub 40 FPS on the 1080. The best performance bump you can get out of a OG 1080 with overclock is 13% and that's for rare games. https://www.gamespot.com/ga... At 1440p even an overclock will get you no where near 60 fps with PS4 Pro equivalent settings. Quite the opposite of your claim at running current games at 1440p 70-90 fps.

anubusgold1141d ago

@Babadook7 you are a tard there is a reason i will get 500 dollars for my 1080 used stick to your console you dont know what you are talking about .

Babadook71141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

@anus

You’re the tard. Nothing you’ve said here makes any sense.

anubusgold1140d ago (Edited 1140d ago )

@ Babadook7 And you offer no proof you just run your mouth like the playstation fanboy you are.

Babadook71139d ago

@anu-s

How are my two links not proof?

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roadkillers1146d ago

Yes and no... in terms of owning games 100%. In terms of streaming off the cloud with Xcloud, legitimate concern for Sony and Nintendo.

Nintendy and Sony have the games, Microsoft has the technology and infrastructure.

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Thatgrammar1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@roadkillers

Why write out “Nintendy” instead of just Nintendo? Thats so annoying for some reason. Also, they all have the “technology and infrastructure.”

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roadkillers1145d ago

Not even close. My assumption is that all other gaming companies will create their own streaming service... either partnering with Microsoft or Amazon. Nintendy and Sony are no different.

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GamerRN1146d ago

You guys can argue against it all you want... It continues to sell out and it's holding it's own as the little system that could

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medman1146d ago

It's a gimp box, with gimped storage, playing gimped games. Sad state of affairs.

GamerRN1146d ago

It has almost as much storage as base PS5 though

RazzerRedux1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

"It has almost as much storage as base PS5 though"

lol....no, it does not. XSS has almost HALF as much available storage as PS5.

Base storage on PS5: 825 GB
Base storage on XSS: 500GB

Available storage on PS5: 667GB
Available storage on XSS: 364GB

frostypants1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

Why do you people keep using similar "this little engine"/"this little system" phrases to describe this thing? Like...constantly. Same talking points memo?

DaveZero1146d ago

Series S is an ace console and that comes from someone who's going to have a second in the house soon..

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Mr_Luke1145d ago

Sell out? I hope you're not talking about worldwide sales. Here in Italy you can get it almost everywhere. And i don't mean just Amazon or Ebay, i mean in the other stores too. You want it? Just open an online seller and get it.
Different story the X, sometimes it appears and stays available for a bit, besides in the biggest marketplace where it sells out fast.

dolkrak1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

There are plenty of countries where Series S is not sold out at all, unlike PS5 or even Series X. It's the easiest console to get right now.

darthv721145d ago

@frosty, have you seen how tiny this thing is? In an age where the og xbox could kill a person and now we have the huge PS5... the Series S is like the size of the original PS2. And its pretty powerful for being so small. Sorry if that old phrase bothers you (and others) but it really is true. I swear the majority will never understand until they experience it for themselves.

SpeedDemon1145d ago

Eh the thing lingers around for hours sometimes days before selling out, that shows that demand is not as strong for the S as the X and PS5. I imagine a lot of the sales are from people who decided to settle for it because they couldn't get a X.

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gravedigger1146d ago

One of the most idiotic Xbox paid article.

DJStotty1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

Positive xbox news = paid article

#fanboylogic

Do you have a source for your claim? or is it just that, a fanboy claim?

M_Prime1145d ago

Agreed RaidenBlack, its a weird console to release. I get for backwards compatibility and emulation its great but to push next gen its lacking. At least SONY has both versions of the PS5 be practically the same internally and just differ if there is a BLUERAY drive or not.

NeoGamer2321145d ago

Honestly this is just a stupid fanboy article and I don't know how these articles get approved.

I wish I could weed out opinion pieces in my news feed.

galmi1145d ago

@RaidenBlack

Definitely didnt read the article

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masterfox1146d ago

Aww nope, is more likely a threat to all multipltaforn and MS exclusives devs for obvious logical tech reasons.

Gardenia1146d ago

And to think for the same price as a PS4 at launch you can get a PS5, without the disc drive.

Starman691146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

1.Xbox series s is for kids.
2. Kids love cod, Fortnite and FIFA
3. For an extra £100 , they can have a ps5 😎😎😎. £350 is cheap for a 10tf machine. Plus it looks miles better on the big telly.

roboteye1145d ago

You know what else kids love? Spider-man.

dcbronco1145d ago

I thought they loved Nintendo. The sales say Nintendo.

CaptainHenry9161142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

You know what else Kids love Sony and Nintendo has been killing Xbox for two decades. It's comical at this point

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darthv721146d ago

I think it's a great little machine... but I wouldnt go that far.

Shiken1146d ago

The Series S is meant as a cheap side dish to people who want XBox games but game on another console, or for those who just simply want to play the games and do not care about paying for peak performance.

The Series S is not a threat to anyone, but it was never meant to be either.

Rude-ro1145d ago

It is meant to sell upgrades to series x or any other variant.
The ONE thing Microsoft learnt from the rrod and last gen, their consumer base buys consoles

waverider1146d ago

Not even both machines combined are a Threat. After 6 months its already easy to see. in Europe you can buy one at any big shop. Here in portugal for weeks. Their strategy failed. The only threat for Sony is Nintendo and they arent, because gamers buy it because of being portable. Their big sales dont have any impact on PS5 sales. Microsoft isnt gainining market share in any Country. I think the person that wrote this also doesnt know what is talking. Putting specs without thinking. The Serie S is only digital and the real disk size is 364..... just COD takes 133 gigas. Almost half the size available... ONE game... The moment you buy more space its will be more expensive then a PS5 digital.... Its a machine for casual without any kind of teck knowledge.

darthv721146d ago

The SSD size is certainly an issue. However, from all the teardowns I have seen, it does look like they may have higher capacity internal drive SKU's later on. so for now the 512mb is the start but I can see them having a 1tb sku just as there will be a 2tb X as well. And the same with plug in external ssd cards will come in different sizes and possibly brands.

crazyCoconuts1146d ago

It'll make even less sense later on because technology will be cheaper, smaller, and more people will have 4k sets and demand a 4K machine. The XSS really only had a small window of being viable imo

waverider1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

Dude, the moment they put 1tb or 2tb of SSD it will go from 299 to a very expensive price. A digital only console with 364 gigas doesnt make sense. Spending more then 299 on this..... Buying the X is much better choice on microsoft consoles. Anybody wiht the one X shouldnt not even think abour this.... For more 200 buck you get so much more, beside 3 times the space...

VenomCarnage891146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@Darth external drives? If you buy one tiny terabyte of microsoft external memory, you just paid the same price as a Series X altogether. The same price for 1/3 the power and slower ram, what a bargain. The icing on the cake is how it'll only hinder game development more and more as time goes on. And honestly, higher capacity future sku's will help the consumers of today 0%. I can see a future where Microsoft cuts the series s lifespan short, not long after the xbox one, locking the early adopters out of the rest of the current gen games. (For reference, look up the xbox 360 hdd-less launch console, and how that went for the early adopters.)

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darthv721146d ago

"the moment they put 1tb or 2tb of SSD it will go from 299 to a very expensive price" that would be true if the prices for those drives never change but over time they will come down. And when they do... that is when we could see increases to the internal storage of the S and X.

It's been like that throughout the 360/PS3 and even XBO/PS4 generations. Newer skus with bigger drives taking the place of the former at no additional cost because the former would be phased out or sold for less.

VenomCarnage891146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

When has Microsoft brought down the price of proprietary external drives? Maybe like once since the 360 released? Anyone counting on that isn't gonna get far. And really though, what does future sku's have to do with people getting stuck with the current, lackluster iteration of the series s? If it gets an SSD size bump in a year, cool. But that does nothing for everyone buying them right now (including you.)

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dcbronco1145d ago

The generation for Series will be much longer than people realize. This will be a very long race. Don't decide the winner based on the start of a 15 year race.

StoneyYoshi1145d ago

Thats how N4G works sadly...

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Knightofelemia1146d ago

You say that now until the real games start coming out that will push the system the PS5 will be able to handle those the Series S the games would have to be dummied down. I still say a Series X would be the way to go I ran into a Series S in Best Buy yesterday I just looked at it and shook my head. If I am going to spend money on a new Xbox I am at least going to go with the one that has more ponies under the hood which is the Series X.

Chevalier1146d ago

Same. Would never consider an S, but, definitely a series X. Lots of series S available around where I am at just sitting on shelves.

Knightofelemia1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

Why waste the cash on a Series S unless you're a collector or someone who turns their console on maybe 5 times in one year. The thing is gutless spec wise this thing is not a threat to the PS5 spec wise the PS5 and Series X are the better machines this thing is more of an annoying pimple. A person wastes their cash on this thing to use as a main gaming machine will end up kicking themselves in the ass later on down the road. When those next gen games that push the machines to the limit will look like shit on Series S when compared to PS5 and Series X. Like I say Microsoft should have made the Series S the same specs as the Series X minus the disc drive. If Sony figured it out and got it right then why can't Microsoft?

Automatic791145d ago

If you know where Series S are sitting on shelves start telling gamers what store. There are a lot of gamers who want one. If you are lying on N4G. I ask that you dont waste our time with false narratives.

Chevalier1146d ago

Yep. I will look into getting a Series X at some point when there are enough games I want just like I did when I got my Xbox One which I then traded towards an One S. Just waiting for some games to purchase one. The store I frequent had 9 Series S just lined up on the upper shelf behind the register. While Series X and PS5 are only available on waiting lists currently.

Automatic791144d ago

@Chevalier thanks for the information. I can direct my friends to ebgames to purchase. Glad to see you being of use rather than no use. Keep up the good work. Feel free to post more often where to find Xbox Series S.

@Knighttofelmia I appreciate the info thank you.

Automatic791145d ago

If you know where Series S are sitting on shelves start telling gamers what store. There are a lot of gamers who want one. If you are lying on N4G. I ask that you dont waste our time with false narratives. Overall, Xbox Series S is doing what it's meant to do. Most on this thread have no clue how powerful the Series S is.

nRicosS1145d ago

Come to Indonesia, almost every game store have x / s on the shelf, 600 dollar for x.

Knightofelemia1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

I live in Canada why would I be blowing smoke up your ass about seeing a Series S on the shelf. In a normal store if you see it on the shelf that means its in stock. And your Series S being so powerful is a false hope its half the specs of the Series X the hard drive in the Series S is 512 gigs at most. Most next gen games will take up half or all of that 512 gig as the games get bigger. To buy Microsoft's external hard drive is another $300 so for the price of a Series S and the external there is your Series X right there. I like my games looking good crisp and clear I don't want my games dummied down just so the Series S can run them while the Series X can run that game in its sleep. But hey its your money you want to buy a Series S go a head I won't because I really only plan to buy one Xbox and I don't want buyers remorse to kick in if I bought a Series S.

andy851145d ago

@Automatic79 in the UK you can currently buy both the Series X and the Series S off multiple websites

Chevalier1145d ago

@Automatic

I also live in Canada like Knightofelemia so if you don't believe me feel free to call some EB Games. The one I frequent has 9 on there shelves. And most of the ones in my area have them on stock as well.

Feel free to go onto Ebgames.ca if you don't believe me. You'll see if you search that the Series S has a green ✔ checkmark for home delivery meaning it's available in stock for purchase. Then feel free to pick a city and call if you want and you'll see lots of them have them stocked.

But yeah just because your precious Xbox isn't selling doesn't mean people are lying.

Ebgames.ca stock will squash your BS in 2 seconds flat.

Chevalier1144d ago

Ebgames.ca Series S still available for purchase FYI. Just went and checked, in cart and purchase payment by PayPal and Credit Card available.

So feel free to tell your 'friends' that they are indeed available. So much for 'false narratives' as you put it?

But yeah if your so confident your friends need one I'll purchase one and your friends can pay to get it shipped to them. I'll even offer $0 profit for myself. Tracking, PayPal invoice the whole thing.

Chevalier1144d ago

"Chevalier thanks for the information. I can direct my friends to ebgames to purchase. Glad to see you being of use rather than no use. Keep up the good work. Feel free to post more often where to find Xbox Series S."

You're welcome. Just because you disagree doesn't mean there's some 'false narratives. Hopefully Xbox gets some games at some point so I'll have a reason to get one, Series X though because I honestly think the Series is not a great introductory console personally and it's obvious to me people want a better experience as well. The stores I shop at all have waiting lists for Series X they're filling regularly whereas Series S is available as is

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