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Anthem Player Posts Long Message Asking BioWare "What's Going On" With Anthem, BioWare Replies

An Anthem player asks BioWare "what's going on" with the game in a lengthy post touching on loot, EA, Mass Effect Andromeda and more! Surprisingly, BioWare posts a detailed, non-PR reply! Read the entire thing in the article.

TheGamez1005d ago

Hopefully that gets into biowares head? It certainty wont with ea though lol. I blame the vast majority of the problems of the game at ea and for other games, every other filthy greedy publishers alike, I dislike blaming the devs.

PhantomS425d ago

But it IS the devs fault. How many disappointments have Bioware rolled out over the years? ME3, DA2, DAi, MEA, this. Bioware is barely a shell of their former self, they are a mask that EA wears. This was in development for seven years and was Bioware's chance to step away from the old school Bioware and make something new. It flopped. EA isn't innocent in all this at all but stop giving Bioware a free pass.

Brave_Losers_Unite5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You can only blame Bioware for selling out to EA. EA is what destroyed the f**king company

Nitrowolf25d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@brave
At the end of the day they made the game, 6 years, you are telling me they have been developing this game for 6 years and that EA is to blame for its issues and shortcoming? In this case EA certainly gave them plenty of time

Armaggedon5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Is that why the AAA games that come out from EA have been flops for the past 4 years? Battlefront was not Biowares work, neither was Need for Speed, or Battlefield 5. Sure Bioware has some blame, but most of it is likely on EA. The game being barren of content, the story being chopped up and worthless, the repetitive and lackluster loot, etc. These are the signs of a product in which they fully intended to sale a large portion of its acceptable content to us later.

Armaggedon5d ago

@Nitrowolf
Just take a look at the video Bioware released in November 2018, and take a look at all of the content that was there, and compare it to what we have now. The higher ups gutted the game, and this is an absolute fact. Before the game came out, I always said " Sure, there may not be any loot boxes; but Ea WILL get their money." But if EA does not stop their monetization schemes, they wont be getting any money at all.

DuckOnQuack355d ago

I personally liked dragon age 2 and I loved dragon age Inquisition. The story to DAi was pretty great imo. Also I was one of the people that felt like me3 was great. I didnt like the ending much but the rest of the game was great. I don't understand all the hate for these 3 games.

warriorcase5d ago

Dragon age 2 was rushed out on EA's orders I'm pretty sure. Remember hearing a an interview on I think game informers podcast with an ex-bioware dev who said it took them 5ish years to make Dragon age 1 and get the systems working and after it was a success EA told them they have 1 year to make a sequel which forced them to just reuse assets and create basically only 1 play area and try their best to be creative with it as that was a near impossible task. I do agree though, I think the bioware of old is gone and a lot of the talent has moved on to other teams and opportunities away from EA.

If the next dragon age doesn't nail it then I wouldn't be suprised if Bioware is the next on EA's chopping block.

No Way5d ago

What's funny is that Bioware/EA said that Andromeda was bad because they put their B team on it. They put their A team on Anthem, and... well.

conanlifts5d ago

ME3 and Dragon Age inquisition were well received and have great meta scores. I think the problem is their last two games, not those that came before.

RacerX5d ago

Hey Bioware: T-minus 3 hours for official Division 2 launch. I hope you have an amazing patch up your sleeve, or you won't have to worry about your angry player base anymore.

EmperorDalek4d ago

Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age II were disappointing because they were rushed by probably at least a year or two each. That could very well be EA's fault. Even then, Mass Effect 3 was a fairly good game (despite the horrific ending), just not up to Bioware's standards.

Inquisition won game of the year, I'd argue it was at least on par with the first game. Andromeda was made by a new C team at Bioware if I'm not mistaken? Anthem is mediocre at best though.

I'm fully agree their games haven't been as good since Mass Effect 2. But I would put much of the blame on EA, and I still think they might have more great games in them, if given the time and freedom to make them.

Antnee5344d ago

Me3 was not a dissapointment neither was dragon age inquisitor

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gniosdb5d ago

Gets into bioowares head like bioware is a person that changes his mind and be like, shit let me do a good mass effect now. That changes nothing.

n1kki65d ago

This is the dumbest shit I have ever read. Weeks after Apex comes out, an EA published games, we are not back to blaming EA. Gamers are morons.

Armaggedon4d ago

An EA published game that is not AAA, and not $60. Sounds to me like EA was very hands off, and that's likely why its good.

SlagWolf5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I use to love Bioware games.
Note key words “use to”.
I haven’t enjoyed a Bioware game in around 10 years.
In fact that company has fallen so far, that even if they announced Star Wars KOTOR 3 I would go “meh” and not even give it a second thought and I looooove KOTOR. Best Star Wars game ever.
I have no faith or trust in them any more.
I only expect them to at best shit out some thing completely mediocre.

glennhkboy4d ago

EA is certainly part of the issue (force Bioware to use Forstbite engine, make Anthem into a MP co-op shooter instead of a story-driven one, etc.) But it is Bioware's executions that must bare a bigger responsibility. Just compare Anthem to the new Division2. A MP loot shooter can still has an interesting story, better loot, ect. Bioware should learn from other similar games, which they don't.

shadowraiden4d ago

it was proven false on EA forcing Bioware to use frostbite people need to research before seeing this. in fact it was Bioware's decision to use frostbite even though they had no clue how things worked in it and if the engine could even do what they wanted

shadowraiden4d ago

but all these issues are development issues. EA isnt the one that decided to make loot boring, you have to go through 10+ menu's and loading screens to see the loot you find, long ass loading screens, one world that looks identical everywhere, boring ass generic missions, no content what so ever even less then Destiny 1's Beta if im honest.

the developers at Bioware have no clue anymore and they have no clue on how to fix the game with alot of the issues so far ingrained they cant fix it without essentially making a whole new game

Armaggedon4d ago

EA's AAA track record has been horrendous for the past few years. I guess all of the devs under EA are highly incompetent

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maybelovehate5d ago

To be fair to Bioware they did lay out a road map. There is new content and changes coming. The endgame is pretty baron right now. Nobody will argue that. But I am fine taking a break and coming back to the new stuff when it is ready. So many gamers feel like they need a single game to consume their life. That is impossible. Even a game like WOW which has been around since what seems like the beginning of time, adding content the whole time, can't do that.

It is fair about them abandoning Andromeda and I can see the concern. But Andromeda was never meant to be a game that evolved over time. Anthem is. Let's see where it goes.

LordoftheCritics5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Games of today and hopefully not the future.
1. Buy the installation files for 60$
2. Play some of the game
3. Wait for content
4. Buy micro transaction content meantime, while content is being made. People might say that you don't need to buy the MT, but think of like this. You live in an area where the only accessible restaurant is a Mc Donalds, at some point on a long day of work when you just don't feel like cooking or doing anything, that McDonalds suddenly looks good. Now you can either move to a better area(play a better game) or give in to it at some point. Humans are fallible creatures. I feel that some companies take advantage of this.

Overall cost significantly higher than 60$ due to MT.

maybelovehate5d ago

I already have around 100 hours into Anthem. Which is more than every game I have bought this year. And I plan on adding many more in May when the new content comes out. Most people will probably put less than 30 hours into Devil May Cry. Same price. Not saying that it is bad value to buy a single player game for the same price, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

LordoftheCritics5d ago

@maybelovehate

People value quality time. There are many games I have played for over 250 hrs but I still value Mass Effect 2's 25hr campaign more than most of those hundreds of hours.

The overall experience is what creates that value. God of War is shorter than Anthem but resonates much more deeply in our minds and if you look at your own life too, its the stronger and higher quality experiences that stick with you.

maybelovehate5d ago

I disagree about God of War. I always value coop games more than single player. Being able to teamwork with friends is always superior for me. And those memories always last longer. Not saying I don't appreciate single player games, I play a lot of them. But I definitely value being able to coordinate and play with friends much higher.

antz11045d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@maybelovehate

Well there's a difference between playing a 30 hour single player campaign and grinding another game for 100 hours. Personally I'd play the 30 hour any day. And then announcing a road map with patch after patch and no "raid" coming until May is nothing to pat them on the back for. That's lazy development.

gniosdb5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Not the future? Dude, is worst, is the PRESENT. The future will be more money-aggressive. The problem lies in that the kids of today don't know any better. For them, the current standards is what it is, so instead of blaming a incomplete game full of bugs and complain about paid DLC for additional content that is not so additional really, they just buy a new game and say: "I can't wait for the first patch to fix x bug or the DLC to add more missions!. While we, the older ones, know where we come from and now that games used to be long beasts that needed no updates and the DLCs were add-ons like extensions for your browser.

Armaggedon5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

People in power whether in video games or beyond set the stage for people and then exploit them. The race is fallible because that is what it wants to be. People will buy these games, and then look forward to the drip fed content that was removed from a mostly finished product.

Armaggedon5d ago

@maybelovehate

The difference is that one game was made to be a game that fans would enjoy, while the other was made that will get people to pay for content that was gutted from the game. You are wrong, what we bought is only 1/4 of the complete package. We will one way or the other, end up paying far more than $60. This is EA, they will find a way to strong arm people into playing.

Razzer5d ago

@maybelovehate

"Not saying that it is bad value to buy a single player game for the same price, just pointing out the hypocrisy."

Others are hypocrites because you've played a lot of Anthem? lol.....ok

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LordoftheCritics5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Absolutely. I value a good co-op game too. That's what people probably wanted Anthem to be. Mass Effect story experience in a multiplayer environment.

My example of God of War was because you rarely see a dam good single player story experience with a good co-op.

maybelovehate5d ago

Anthem's story was good. I enjoyed it. And I loved some of the mini npc story lines. Especially the mother storyline. But the best part of coop games is making your own stories. Anthem offers a good sandbox for that. At this point I am with most users wanting more. But I am wanting more because I really enjoy the gameplay and want more reasons to keep playing. Not because it is a bad game that isn't fun.

LordoftheCritics5d ago

I cannot argue with your opinion about Anthem's story. In my opinion, the story was generic, tiring, and I never skipped conversations so fast in my entire gaming career.

maybelovehate5d ago

You didn't like the Mother storyline? Wow. I didn't think that was possible.

Armaggedon5d ago

They laid out a roadmap of content that was present in the game before EA came along and gutted it you mean.

maybelovehate4d ago

Nothing on the road map will cost money, if that is what you are getting at.

Armaggedon4d ago

It already has. You pay for all the upcoming "free" content(that was removed from the final game) by buying armor packs and cosmetics(that were also all removed from the final game). Whether you like the game or not(which I personally do), EAs strategy is to keep you playing the game for a long time so they can milk you with microtransactions.

Realms5d ago

EA can pull the plug on Anthem when ever they want so, what makes you so sure they won't? Seeing that the game is slowly dying I'm not so sure that they won't. When will people learn these kinds of games have to be on point out of the gate to succeed long term or be supported with free/compelling content. Rainbow Six Seige comes to mind but if the community isn't on board or divisive like with Anthem the game will die ala Evolve insert every other game that wishes to make money in perpetuity.

JackBNimble5d ago

You can be assured that EA will try to recoup as much money as possible before ever pulling the plug.

shabz66614d ago

I really wanted to like anthem. I did the 10 hour trial on ea access on my one x and was not impressed by it. I’m glad you’re enjoying it. And hopefully BioWare can address the issues and end up with a better game. Because I’d love to jump into it again.

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AngelicIceDiamond5d ago

My only problem with the game is I don't have a single legendary drop, This Whole entire time I been playing. Legendary gear doesn't exist in my game at all. Ive quit playin until they changed do something about it.

LordoftheCritics5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I got the Papa pump shotgun 3 times, the exact same one. Repeat drops are not a problem, just that nothing else seems to drop for me.

RacerX5d ago

My first 5 masterworks were the exact same HANDGUN. I switched Javelins, and all of the sudden I started getting different drops... Weird, but give that a try and see if it works for you.

Still no legendaries for me.

maybelovehate5d ago

Yeah, the drop rate for legendaries is way too low. And to make it worse they usually have bad rolls. The current farm is to run the Monitor Stronghold on GM1 and just speed through it. And leave the game after you pick up the second chest. You don't really need to worry about being rude because 9 times out of 10 everyone will leave haha. Just max out your luck since you won't need to worry too much about gear on GM1.

RacerX5d ago

The drops are weird all around anyway. Like seriously? 'Epic' doesn't scale upwards at all? It just stops at 38? Why even drop stuff lower than masterwork/legendary if all that other gear is useless?

XabiDaChosenOne5d ago

"Anthem Player"
Well that was your first mistake.

Spenok5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

So you don't think getting feedback from someone who actually plays the game is a good thing? That's logical... /s

Einhander19715d ago

Selling out to EA is like selling your soul to the devil. Obviously EA pull all the strings behind the scenes.

sander97024d ago

It's scary that you can actually feel the life of a dev studio draining out for every game they make while working for EA, it's the slow replacement of real gamers making games into workers making a product.

averagejoe264d ago

Nope. It's already been confirmed this was the game Bioware wanted to make. They just fucked up. EA didn't influence the creativity or making of the game.