Not having a campaign mode in Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 was ultimately a wise decision by Treyarch Studios since, at the end of it all, it's all about online multiplayer.
How many of these idiotic articles do we need?🤣 Please, someone explain to me, why is it such a joy to anyone that we got less content? Even if you personally don't like single player games, why do you believe that it is a good thing to receive less for the same price? People are complete morons when it comes to this issue. Being happy to get less because the company line is that. Just amazing how sheep go along with anything.
There isn't less content. It was replaced by a BR mode that will probably get WAYYY more playtime than their campaigns do.
many gamers on this website are mostly fans story driven single player games, they really just dont seem to get it. Since modern warfare 2 Call of duty campaigns are only enjoyed by a very small portion of the people buying the game. Honestly there are much better experiences for single player gamers, red dead redemption 2 around the corner and spider-man just came out.
BR mode is just one mode. It's not a replacement for a full fledged campain with a story.
@Kevn Yeah I know. Social MP to them is like garlic to a vampire
@kevnb You don't get it. You got less for the same amount of money. That "tiny" minority that finished the CoD campaigns is still in the MILLIONS of people. Why are you going along with the line Activision is feeding you? I don't get it. If the campaign is there and you don't like it, does it bother you so much that you don't want anyone to enjoy it? To me, this seams extremely selfish and honestly, absolutely idiotic way of thinking.
@AnubisG Its not less though, I get that they took out the campaign you wanted, but its not less content. If people really want the campaign back just vote with your wallets and your comments, but dont go saying its less content because thats simply not true.
@kevnb But it is less. It is exactly one campaign less. BR mode is a fad that will fade within the next few years when people will move on to the next big thing. It is just a multiplayer mode. It's like in the 90's they removed a sp campaign just to add capture the flag instead. I did vote with my wallet. For the first time since CoD has been released, I have not purchaed the game. There is just no value for me there. Plus, 0 of my friends purchased it. That is 15 lost sales. On my PSN buddy list of 70+ people, there was only one person playing it. I guess I surround myself with like minded individuals.
@AnubisG that doesn't make it less, you just dont care for br so its a worthless addition to YOU. BR isnt a fad either, it might die down some but its not going away. Please just use some logic...
It's mind boggling how people try to spin this as "less content." They added Battle Royale. There's more zombie content than ever. I would love to here the rationale that explains how multiplayer, zombies, and blackout is only equivalent to non-single player content in every previous game.
They had their money and time budget. They decided to use it on MP, not SP campaign. So it's not like they worked less. You can't just think the same package could have been released WITH SP campaign, because the package is inherently different. Budget that would have gone to SP went to MP side, which is different than what would have been with a SP campaign. Judging by the reviews, the effort is paying well.
@ Jinger Right because it takes the same amount of assets and budget to just throw in some extra game modes. Oh the stupidity look, I couldn't care any less about COD but some people are morons what is being shoved out as a game used to be a game mode in a game. I don't blame Activision or EA for being greedy if people are dumb enough to keep throwing money at them even though they are being asked to bend over every time they buy a new FIFA or COD then they deserve what they get. Just don't complain when they take it too far like they did with Star Wars pay to win.
@Realms I'm too tired to really respond so I'll just copy and paste what I already said to Anubis: "And no, BR isn't just another "MP mode". Can you play BR on any of CoD's existing maps? No? then it isn't "just another multiplayer mode". It is something completely different and new for CoD to have a massive map filled with 100 players and vehicles etc."
For whatever SP gamers that brought the game for the campaign, I have a feeling they'd feel that there is less content. Otherwise, I don't think that's a extremely large percentage of the customers of this game. I really don't know why one feature has to be excluded to get another though. The amount of content in the MP mode is probably of little concern to the SP gamers that play the game. It's not like one has to cease to exist at the expense of another, and these games make enough money that Activision could have expended the money on it to provide a long time part of what the game was.
The only COD campaign I played was the first MW, and I've purchased about 3 other cods after that one. It's not less content just different content. IMO this isn't going to hurt their sales, and only the people on this site will be crying about since the majority at ps fanboys who only play Sony exclusive games, and we know those are single player games.
and the morons will pay more and more for that extra playtime... I'm with AnubisG it's just stupid... that's why i'm skipping this game.
Activision: Hey guys how is it hanging? You know how we did COD all these years right? The whole SP and MP thing? Yeah we are removing the SP part, cause why not, and will offer a mode with just a bigger map instead! Are tou excited yet??? The best part is its all for the same price as before! Its not like we didn't have the time or resources (and oh boy do we have re$ource$..) to do what we always did with COD its just that we know you guys will eat up anything we serve! Great deal right? We thought so too! PS: We here at Activision believe you, the guys who love what we did and suddenly hate SP campaigns (we did not expect that to tbh hihi) or just dont care, are the best customers ever, we love you we really really do!
"BR mode is just one mode. It's not a replacement for a full fledged campain with a story." Why isn't it? Plus, there is still a story there if you play through the Operator HQ. It ties into the Mason family line and everything. BR mode will get way more play time then some 4 hour campaign everyone will forget about the next day when they go and sink 99% of their time in either MP or Zombies...
It isnt because he doesn't value multiplayer, the battle royale mode isnt less than some 5 hour corridor shooter with non interactive cut scenes. Its a strange way of thinking some people have.
Jinger, that's absolutely not everyone. It is possibly the majority I give you that, but far from everyone. I personally always purchased CoD for it's campaign because I enjoyed it. I played them multiple times on different difficulties. Than played some zombies and that was it. Than I moved on to the next game. Rarely I played it online. I had my CoD mp fill with CoD4, MW2 and [email protected] After that, it was the same crap every single year. There are much better mp games anyway. Battlefield is one of them. So again, just because YOU don't think campaign is good or should be there doesn't mean anything. You go along with the corporate line like you usually do. You have these anti-consuner thoughs that you stick with. You are ome strange person.
@kevnb I like a good multiplayer but CoD is the same crap for the past 10 years. If you like it, good for you but after thousands of hours of CoD mp, I had my fill and I have no desire to go back. I tried BR. Honestly, that is the most borring mode I ever played and I got into top 10 multiple times which is extremely easy to to. It's just a long walking simulator with about 30 seconds of action every 30-40 minutes. If that is want you enjoy, go for it.
Oh so that mode is like the first Titanfall game that almost every single person hated because it was an online only game with no single player mode..... I think everyone in favor of this change has just deluded them selves into believing it's "a ok" because it's call of duty when just 4 shirt years ago you were all complaining about a game that did just this
@fathertime4464 Titanfall 2 adds a single player that everyone who complained claimed they would buy if added and still fails miserably in sales. Guess where the bulk of those people were then, playing the MP for Battlefield and CoD.
"That "tiny" minority that finished the CoD campaigns is still in the MILLIONS of people." Their number was like 9% for BLOPS3, with 26+mil buyers that puts it up over 2mil players who finished the campaign. But how many of that 9% bought CoD JUST for the SP and didn't touch the other modes? I'd say probably less than 4%. Also I wonder how many hours spent in the SP vs. MP of that 9% who bothered to beat the SP? I'd say the ratio is not even close.
These numbers that you pulled.... I just checked on PS4 the % of people who finished the CoDWWII campaign is 25%. Not 9%. Did they all buy the game for the campaign only? Doubtfull...they bought it because of the WHOLE package. That is the key. Without sp campaign, CoD is not a full package. At least for me and my friends.
@AnubisG seems like you have reading problems, Jinger was talking about black ops 3.. you know the last black ops game. Sure you realize there are three different call of duty teams working on three different games at any given time? Black ops 4 development would have started shortly after black ops 3, the last two games in between would have started development before black ops 3 even came out. The blackout mode has been in development since early 2017, despite many on this website thinking you just press a button and you have a fully working battle royale game.. https://comicbook.com/gamin...
@kevnb Ok, let's talk about CoDBOIII than. On PS4 it is true that the campaign of this game has been completed by only 9.4% however, that is do to the fact that the campaign of that CoD was particulary bad. In BOII 32% completed the campaign. But let's go by title. MW2 52.3% BO1 42.1% MW3 53.3% BOII 32% Ghosts 41.3% AW 41.2% BOIII 9% IW 20% WWII 38.2% So, just because the campaign completion in ONE CoD game is low than that warrants it to cancel the whole campaign? Yes, it's done by different teams and BO campain completions are lower than the rest but still it's not a reason to cancel it and it wasn't canceled because of that. They are just pointing on this in hopes sheep eat up this reason and by the looks of it, sheep ate it up like the good sheep they are. They canceled it becaude it wasn't coming together and creating a BR mode is much, much faster and easier. It's not a one button push and no one is saying that but it's a heck of a lot easier than creating a story campaign. So in general CoD campaign completions are much, much higher than 9%.
"I just checked on PS4 the % of people who finished the CoDWWII campaign is 25%. Not 9%" First off I was talking about the last Treyarch game Black Ops 3. "That is the key. Without sp campaign, CoD is not a full package. At least for me and my friends." Well that's great, but I don't play the SP campaign with my friends so them replacing it with a feature that I'll spend 10x the amount of time in with my friends is a much fuller package for us. "You go along with the corporate line like you usually do. You have these anti-consuner thoughs that you stick with. You are ome strange person." What exactly is anti consumer, again? I mean just because they replaced the mode YOU like with a mode I like doesn't make it anti consumer, in fact, it's giving ME more bang for my buck. And no, BR isn't just another "MP mode". Can you play BR on any of CoD's existing maps? No? then it isn't "just another multiplayer mode". It is something completely different and new for CoD to have a massive map filled with 100 players and vehicles etc.
So you bought Call of Duty every year just for the campaign? Thats pretty expensive for a 6 hour story mode. Now the real deal of Call of Duty is the Multiplayer and Zombies. Those are modes you can play all year long. And now they added Blackout, a mode you can also play for a long time. Look at Fortnite, its still going strong for a Battle Royale only game. You telling me a 6 hour campaign mode has more value then multiplayer, zombies and blackout?
HOW is this LESS CONTENT..they replaced story mode with another mode... story modes are completed in max 2 weeks anyway and people stop playing it.. Blackout is a mode that will get new content and will make the game even bigger.. the game doesnt have less content..
I agree with Anubis. I’ve never really touched the CoD multiplayer, often choosing to play through the campaign a few times, but Activision is selling this game at full price and then some for half a game But I guess the pretense is; if there’s no campaign, then all that money and energy will be put into multiplayer, but honestly, it’s a cost cutting technique, and the CoD lemmings will fall in line and hand over more than the game is worth. How much is Fortnite again?
it’s not half a game. If you wanna call a MP only game half a game then any single player only game is half a game. They’ve added a whole new mode to replace the campaign that can give you endless amounts of replay ability with different outcomes everytime. If you wanna play this SP you can do the zombies mode. Otherwise don’t buy it, and if enough people don’t buy it, maybe they will put a campaign back in next time. But it’s not half a game.
@ Kribwalker That argument makes no sense since every previous COD had a SP campaign it's not like Overwatch that is purely an FPS online only game. Activision is laughing their asses off all the way to the bank, it's not surprising that they can get away with it since COD consistently ranks amongst the best selling games even though they do the exact same thing EA does with FIFA just tweak a few things aka "add a few modes" here and there throw in a fresh coat of paint and call it a day.
@Kribwalker SP mode is core part of COD games in first place just as MP. I’m sorry, but I bet you didn’t play any previous COD games or neither you learn nothing from it. You can keep adding new stuff as long you keep the core part in the game. But no, you’re have to remove it and favor over new stuff. You can play zombie mode which can play offline and online and yes it has story, but it’s wave base mode, not a proper Single Player mode. And don’t try to bring excuses about COD BO4 “campaign” which is a tutorial mission that teach you how to play the game with bunch of CGI cutscenes. You keep saying that you are not against Single Player games but you are siding with multiplayer game more than Single Player games. I have a reason against MP games only because the modernization is something that publishers want to checking Player psychology. The question is how ? Publishers want to keep adding new stuff and making game progression slower. Now I don’t mind with grind and I pretty decent at MP game, but now these days publishers just want to make thing more tedious and annoying.
Maybe it’s not half a game and more of a half-assed game
Because there are those who seem to love spending more for less over extended periods. They also seem to enjoy games being loaded with loot boxes/microtransactions and apparently don't care for narrative driven games. Maybe it's their attention span but I tend to be distracted easily but I love a good yarn so I'm not sure.
Even dice throwing in a battle royal mode. The difference is that they managed to keep a campaign mode. Seems like tryarch was just lazy to me.
Well as someone who doesn't play online or zombies, Activision lost a sale once the single player content was axed and I say that as a consumer who has all of the COD PS4 titles on my shelf. I assume Activision have figures which demonstrate that the amount of people playing single player (or not as the case may be) makes it difficult to justify the development costs of creating a single player campaign, but I am quite sad about it personally as I always enjoyed a good blast through a COD title.
So you bought CoD ONLY for the 4 hour or so campaign? So you're that 1% lol
Well, at least those are better than those tutorials missions in Black Ops 4. COD Infinite Warfare was about 7-8 hours including side mission and i’m very happy about it.
I think we will get more campaigns, just not every year. I think they really need to go back and revamp the campaigns, they are all starting to play the same.
You weren’t gonna by it anyway bro. You are using as the campaign as the excuse this year. You don’t like COD and that’s ok. Don’t pretend that you were looking forward to black ops4 and all the sudden you changed your mind because of no campaign.
How could you possibly know that?
I never said I went out and bought it day 1, but I genuinely enjoyed the COD campaigns so I would buy them a couple of months after release when they were around £30 (40 dollars). I know I am an outlier, that COD isn't really a product aimed at me, so I understand why the campaign has been cut but I can still feel a little disappointed and as per my previous statement, it is still a sale lost.
Its not it's a dumb idea. The only reason there isn't a campaign is because they had trouble getting that 1982 quake engine to make a proper BR map. The multiplayer isn't even that great either. Heck half to maps are old ones. This game is lifeless and I bet the servers will be as well in a few months
Only 4 of the 14 MP maps are old ones.
lol, only 28.57% old maps like that is some arguement you just won, Lol, know wonder the online only community gets raked over the coals by publishers.
There's no doubt about it that this game will definitely take a small dent in sales knowing there are thousands or more of folks including myself that are not buying this game because there's no campaign including charging full price for just MP,BR & Zombie mode only. It would have been a wise decision to cover all bases when it comes to most of COD gamers/consumers.
Yep, they lost my business this year as well as all of my friends. But I hear that it's breaking all kinds of records so this might be the future of CoD. So gamers like us lost a franchise. Oh well, plenty of other games to play.
Absolutely!! I'm playing a few recent released AAA games now including some indies.I'll be buying a few more releases come next month,as of now I'll be getting my shooter itch playing campaigns & co-op of Forsaken & next month with the campaign of BFV.
I only bought this for the Black Out mode. I bet there's more people like me than there are people like you.
That are foolish to buy a MP only game with no campaign for $60 or more?? LMAO!! Imo I rather be in the minority that didn't buy than be in the majority of the foolish that did buy.
Yeah, they are really foolish to buy it for a mode that gives you hundreds of hours like Blackout instead of a mode that gives you 5 hours of a shooting gallery like single player. They are so foolish that they probably tricked themselves into enjoying BlackOut too.
LMAO!! Yep the foolish.
The only 'wisdom in this move is that they seen the ignorance of the game society and knew they could get away with it. They dodntmke a better game in any way, they made half of one and are laughing all the way to the bank.
And let's not forget, there are people who defend this decision to the death which is crazy to me.
Yeah, I have to agree with Skankinruby and AnubisG on this. A lot of you don't see the problem here. You're sitting here making excuses for giving up even more control of what you own to these companies by defending this. Not having a single player mode means when companies ever decide to shut down a game server, what you paid for literally becomes worthless, even digitally. Trying to do away with physical games as well as defending online only products that you pay for is giving companies more control of what you own than ever before. And the biggest problem here is the gamers' as a whole (not everyone) is at fault for this because instead of thinking this through, they're slaves to their entertainment (in this case video games). Go good example, go back to when Microsoft made people pay to play games online a year after the xbox 360 launched. Some people complained, but way more people caved to it. And when Sony saw it worked for Microsoft, they did the same with the PS4. And now even Nintendo is dipping into that. People have to realize the customer has the power. But due to being slaves to gaming, you cede that power to these corporations. I'm not saying you can't enjoy your games. I am saying however people need to look past the "shiny objects" and start seeing things for what they are
So are all MP only games "Half a game"?
@Jinger that depends. If we're talking about games that were always meant to be multiplayer online, you might have an argument. But when you're speaking of a product or franchise that always had a single player component, to make it MP only can sure enough make it be considered half a game.
@lodossrage So is the new GoW half a game because there was a MP mode in Ascensions? The Tomb Raider reboot had a MP, but they removed it for Rise and Shadow... does it make those games "half a game" now because they realized hardly anyone played it and focused on the SP instead? Or is it only "half a game" when they drop the SP for MP?
@Jinger. God of War is a traditionally single player only game. Multiplayer wasn't / isn't the norm for God of War. And on the side note Ascension still had single player to it. A game that traditionally is single player suddenly getting multiplayer added on is a bonus, not a subtraction. So no, the new God of War isn't half a game because it's traditionally single player EVERY call of duty had a single player component until now. That is a subtraction. So yeah, black ops 4 for some people (myself included) can be seen as half a game Edit- my comment answers your edit.
They are "zero game" to me.
No, and the implication you're making is a half assed attempt at justifying this nonsense. Games have always been traditionally single player with mp as an add on and moves like this are tip toeing into a market where we are paying full price essentially for bonus features
That makes no sense. They actually catered to the larger audience of this game and did away with a SP campaign that hardly anyone played or cared about. There was never any anticipation for any of the CoD single player story modes. It wasn't winning any awards, they were becoming less relevant with each iteration, and if I'm not mistaken the SP campaigns were taking less time to complete with each new entry. The MP of CoD is the meat and the potatoes. The SP was the parsley on the side of the MP tomahawk steak. They made exactly the game that catered to the majority of their fans. How anyone can say it's "half a game" with a straight face is fooling themselves.
It's not about whether or not it was winning awards. The fact is that it was always traditionally there, regardless of what you, me, or anyone else thought about it. Nobody ever said MP wasn't the heart of the game. But single player was ALWAYS there with it. So to reiterate my earlier point, taking something that traditionally had both, then taking it away makes it half a game.
@lodossrage "The fact is that it was always traditionally there," The fact is it wasn't the main interest to a lot of CoD players. Why continue with something that is not getting the time spent on it? That is just bad business. It's a waste of the developers time to make a SP mode that hardly anyone spends time on and can be completed in 4 or 5 hours. That time can be better spent on a mode that even you said is the heart of CoD. "So to reiterate my earlier point, taking something that traditionally had both, then taking it away makes it half a game." Taking something you personally feel is tradition out, is not making it half a game especially when they're adding and spending more time on the actual heart of the game and expanding on it. Who even determines what is tradition for a game like CoD? CoD has evolved past that, you don't see tournaments broadcast on TV and social media of COD on who can complete the SP mode faster. This iteration of CoD has grown past SP, for the better, time to start a new tradition.
Quit making such definite statements profiling an entire fanbase based on your opinion you jus sound igorant. I don't play multiplayer, I bought these games for the brainless entertainment as time fillers when I didn't have the time to commit to a more meaningful game. And if I was so alone in this opinion then why would infinite warfare have gotten the backlash it did? If multiplayer was all that mattered no one would even care out the environment, or even sequels for that matter. They made just enough to cash in on a specific demographic, not a primary one, and catering to it is creating a cancer in this whole industry.
@Skankinruby "Quit making such definite statements profiling an entire fanbase based on your opinion you jus sound igorant." Wha!? And what exactly are you and others doing by talking about the removal of SP? Seriously, the only ones who sound ignorant are you and the rest with this belief that SP was truly ever a factor to the last few CoD games. If SP was truly so important and such a great feature, and such an important addition to the COD franchise then the devs would have actually spent time crafting it. But they didn't, so what does that actually tell you? "And if I was so alone in this opinion then why would infinite warfare have gotten the backlash it did?" You're not alone, you're in the minority, know the difference. "They made just enough to cash in on a specific demographic, not a primary one," lmao! They made ALL their cash on Multi Player, they made zero on Single Player. So the primary one IS the MP. They are now catering to that larger group, not the ones who complained about CoD every single year, and may have played and finished their 4 hour campaign and then never picked it up again. "and catering to it is creating a cancer in this whole industry"creating a cancer in this whole industry" Wow, talk about delusion, and yet in your first sentence you talk about making DEFINITE STATEMENTS. The absolute irony of it all is what is flooring me at this very moment. How is it causing a cancer to the WHOLE industry? They are making a game specifically for the MP fans. Not you, so skip this, wait for the next CoD if that even has it. If not then try Battlefield, I heard that has a SP game you sink about 6 hours into. But this is not a cancer to the WHOLE industry, these are devs who are actually catering to their larger fanbase and delivering exactly what they have been wanting and playing for months/years. Hell, CoD MW2 just became BC on Xbox One, and the mp is still being played years after, that should tell you everything about where the focus is for CoD games.
'lmao! They made ALL their cash on Multi Player, they made zero on Single Player. So the primary one IS the MP. They are now catering to that larger group, not the ones who complained about CoD every single year, and may have played and finished their 4 hour campaign and then never picked it up again.' Lmao I wasn't talking about money you illiterate moron I was saying they made just enough of a game to entertain online gamers and abandoned the casuals entirely. And then you so ignorantly imply that there's no profit in initial game sales which in theory makes all single player games a money pit. That 'extra income' can only be referring to microtransactions, the other trend that is destroying gaming. You speak with such laughable arrogance and can't manage to make a single point and ironically go on to make statements like 'Hell, CoD MW2 just became BC on Xbox One, and the mp is still being played years after, that should tell you everything about where the focus is for CoD games' which backs my initial point that if multiplayer was all that mattered then there is zero incentive to invest in sequels. Just stop with your silly huffy and puffy nonsense you have no point here. This move will definitely effect sales and if they choose to stand by it in spite of that then they will lose plenty of customers permanently, myself included.
"Lmao I wasn't talking about money you illiterate moron I was saying they made just enough of a game to entertain online gamers and abandoned the casuals entirely." Oh, my bad, well I stand corrected everyone, how DARE these developers abandon the CASUALS and cater to the HARDCORE fanbase that made CoD the ever so popular juggernaut game that it is now. hmmmm, wasn't talking about money but says, "made just enough to CASH in..", yeah, great choice