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Sony Exec Talks About A PS4 Feature That Hasn't Received Much Attention But Changed For The Better

As someone who has played on every PlayStation console since the original, it goes without saying that the PSN store on the PlayStation 3 was a terrible experience.

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22CobraKing3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

I didn't even notice that.

Conzul3226d ago

Playstation Store is awesome now, when I can get it to open. Half the damn time I have to refresh the wifi connection with a connectivity check for it to even open. But when it does it's great, waaaaay better than PS3 era.

Just wish the Playstation Store deals were under the Store tab instead of clogging up the What's New tab. I'd actually use What's New if it weren't 2/3rds ads covering up what my friends have been up to.....
:(

kaizokuspy3226d ago

@Consul just log out and log back in. Way quicker, but yeah that problem persists.

Lord_Sloth3226d ago

HA! I love Penny Arcade.

dantesparda3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

I've never had a problem with the store not opening. You need to check your settings (network and PS4's) cuz something is wrong. I've never had the store not open and it always opens fast (in mere secs) and I only have a 10mbit connection.

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frostypants3226d ago

The PS4 store is seamless compared to the PS3 one, which was slow as hell. It used to make me think my network was messed up. It was (and is) painful.

The PS4 store hauls butt. Huge improvement.

JasonBloodbourne3226d ago

Your joking aren't you? The store on the ps4 fails to load most times for me. I have to reboot my ps4 just get it to load most of the time. It's hit or miss.

DragonKnight3226d ago

I still prefer the original PS3 store. The layout was much easier to navigate and find whatever you wanted, it was way faster, I don't know why they changed it to this slow, barely responsive version that requires more steps to find something than should be necessary.

fr0sty3226d ago

@jason, sounds like an issue that is on your end, or maybe an issue local to your area.

Skate-AK3226d ago

I have bought over 35 digital games and I have never ran into the problem Jason mentioned.

Kingthrash3603226d ago

At Jason...I used to just log out then log back in...worked like a charm....but since they fixed it I don't have to do it anymore...so I think it's your end tbh. You might need to rebuild in safe mode

pinkyxyz3226d ago

@jason I love my ps4 just as much as the next gamer, but i agree that the ps4 store will not load sometimes and as recently as yesterday i did have to restart my console in order for the store to stop hanging.

pivotplease3226d ago

@DragonKnight

Actually the original store might have been the worst of all. They updated it a few years in and at that point it was pretty remarkable and close to the experience we have on PS4 today. Then they updated again and isolated everything and made the store a separate app (likely to reduce the OS footprint). That's when things went way downhill.

frostypants3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

@JasonBloodbourne , sounds like you need to open some ports on your router. I've had zero problems.

pody3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

@pivotplease

That's probably the one he's thinking about as well. That version of the PS3 store was so good and fast, I still have no idea why they changed it to that clunky and slow shit that is its current form. It looks nice and all, but it's a drag to even do the most basic of things. It's SOO slow on the PS3, it's remarkable that they even allow such a program in the system. On the PS4 it's a bit faster, but when you still experience slowdowns there, with that hardware(!), you just know that it's extremely poorly built.

I just use the browser on PC to buy stuff now. Luckily that's an option. Not that that one is especially fast either...

I do wish they'd remove that got damn pop-up window telling you that you've placed something in the shopping basket, which you then have to remove again for it to go away, it doesn't even auto-hide. I can't believe how unintuitive that shit is.

kreate3226d ago

I want the old psn store back. The new store sucks.

LonDonE3226d ago

@JasonBloodbourne
You are right and wrong, since launch the laggy psn store, faling to load etc basically the problem some are describing on here is real.

Anyone who doubts it should visit the playstation forums!

Out of 10 or so friends who all bought the Ps4 at launch from amazon uk, 9 of them have had this issue.
I am the only one who does not, it works flawless for me but the last 2 weeks downloads on my ps4 take ages and this too is being investigated as lots of people are reprorting crazy slow download times in europe since the last o.s update.

Sony need to sort this psn store problem, i sat with my buddy and tried everything! opening ports manually, dmz, upnp on, off, open dns, google dns, and nothing worked.
Problem would come back, i think its some port the isp must be blocking.

All my 9 friends are on virgin fibre, maybe thats the issue? Lol who knows.
I am the only one on adsl+2 (lol) i know super annoying, no fibre available for me yet.
Regardless i hva changed isp a few times but still it works flawless.

Hopefully people get it sorted, and i hope sony sort the slow downloads issue.
Even in sleep mode it has been very slow.

ORyanDeee3225d ago

i use to have that problem where i always needed to restart my console just to access the PS store, but as of a month or 2 ago its been fine.

IIFloodyII3223d ago

@Jason
That hasn't been an issue since the last major firmware update, like 6 months ago...

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XanderZane3226d ago

Yes, it's definitely better now. I just wish they would move the "Library" tab to the front of the list next to the Media Player instead of having it at the very end of the game list. It's just dumb to have it there. It would be better to have the tabs vertical instead of horizontal. The 360 still has the best UI, especially with the HOME button. Glad they fixed the PS Store though.

UKmilitia3226d ago

something i have noticed today is my ONLINE STORAGE is already full.

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wynams3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

everything is clunky and slow on the ps3
source: my phatty in the bedroom

Palitera3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

I have to say... To be fair, the super clunkiness of the PS3 store dates to the update when they implemented what was designed to be the PS4 Store.

When the store was still designed for the PS3 needs, it was and run great.

Mr Logic3226d ago

Truth! I remember the very first PS3 store which was like a slow website. Then they redesigned it some time in 2008 I believe into the squares. It was perfect and snappy. Then they did it again and made it the current PS4ish UI and it sucks.

pody3226d ago

These guys speak the truth. I stopped using the PS3 one after that update. It's brutally painful to both start and browse.

Kurisu3226d ago

I much prefer the PS Store on PS4 compared to PS3. Granted the PS Store on PS3 has improved in design over the years but it's still so slow compared to PS4.

SpaceRanger3226d ago

The PS4 is on a whole other level this gen compared to last gen. My biggest gripe with my PS3 was downloading since you couldn't play online and download from the store at the same time.

Having a snappy PS store and background downloads has been an amazing feature that I've enjoyed from the start!

BlackTar1873226d ago

i don't like the PS store at all. I prefer the ps3 slow clunky to the new ps4 one.

Larry L3226d ago

Woah!! I've stepped into Bizzaro-World. You've got 2 basically identical stores, one is just mind-numbingly slow and laggy, and one is smooth as butter 98% of the time (for me anyway. This is the first time I've ever heard people saying the store won't load up. I've had PS4 since the Destiny bundle launch and the store has never failed to load for me), and you quite adamantly prefer the former? Crazy talk I tellsya!!

I mean......I know you're trolling. Anyone who's actually used the PS3 and PS4 would know that you've obviously NEVER been on one or the other....probably both. But I just wanted to play along for a few while DriveClub is downloading.

tanukisuit3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

I actually like the launch/classic PSN Store version - the one with the blue blocks or whatever... it just had a nice charm to it *shrugs*. Possibly just nostalgic overload, idk...

loopygames3226d ago (Edited 3226d ago )

I liked that one the most. It was simple to navigate and fast. The current PS Store just has too many tabs/options.

https://i.imgur.com/9080Z4o...

tanukisuit3226d ago

Honestly, this is going to sound soooo cheesy, but the store sound effects combined with the layout made it seem like a real "shopping experience".

The current layout, which is okay in my books, feels too much like I'm trying to browse for a movie rental, lol.

_-EDMIX-_3226d ago

lol, memories. I personally liked the old way too, the new format looks great too though. I never really got those that would judge the PS Store lol, I'm not on there long enough to really notice much.

If anything I love that the speed has increased, but that will come along with consoles with better ram, cpu's etc.

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How former PlayStation boss views gaming’s tumultuous time | Shawn Layden interview

How former PlayStation boss views gaming’s tumultuous time!

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Sure. My mistake... screw Ryan :) Remembering the good times when japanese Sans ruled Sega and PlayStation...

Babadook741d ago (Edited 41d ago )

He was one the best imo. Up there with Jack Tretton.

Psychonaut8541d ago

If you actually read the article it’s really insightful as to the state of the industry. You might not like the way certain things are going, but it’s a good look as to why.

Tacoboto41d ago

"For single-player games it’s not the same exigency [as Live Service]. But if you’re spending $250 million, you want to be able to sell it to as many people as possible, even if it’s just 10% more."

The most I ever see is a shorter window from PS to PC. I never see Sony releasing on Xbox or Nintendo, even for their GaaS titles.

Abnor_Mal41d ago

As it is right now Sony might feel that the cost of making games is not yet so high that they have to expand beyond the platform they have already started expanding on meaning pc.

When the cost becomes beyond $300 million I’m sure more platforms will start to receive something.

rlow141d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Business is business at the end of the day. In the short term I agree with you. The long term???? If you go back just 4-5 years ago, some on here swore that Sony would never go pc or day one. Yet we now have Sony games on the PC and day one courtesy of Helldivers 2.

My point is never say never, because the way everything has been shifting. I don’t think anyone really knows where it’s going to end up.

Ironmike41d ago

I agree siny start releasing on pc a lot earlier the big exclusives are fortune to make

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Former PlayStation boss gives the games industry a stern talking to about acquisitions

The former PlayStation CEO has now explained why he thinks games conglomerates getting bigger and bigger, as a result of buying smaller studios, is bad for the industry.

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DaCajun179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

He currently works for Tencent, the worst offenders of what he's preaching against. That is some serious hypocrisy, Not to mention they are just lackeys for the Chinese government. Hard for me to trust him anymore, in my opinion.

S2Killinit178d ago

So if your doctor advises that you lose weight you dont take the advise because he is over weight?

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Obscure_Observer179d ago

"Nobody cares"

Yeah... says the guy who congratulates himself and pats himself on the back for Insomniac´s acquisition, calling it his "biggest achievement" ahead of Playstation.

Though competent, Layden is also narcissist, arrogant and a hypocrite, since his previous actions don´t reflect what he´s preaching now.

BrainSyphoned179d ago

Stop talking about yourself. Pot, kettle, rusted peice of hypocritical trash.

Lightning77179d ago

How so? He was instrumental to PS4 and part of PS5? He's the last good CEO. I have no clue what you're talking about. He had a ton to offer to PS and the industry.

Elda179d ago

Pot calling the kettle black? One should really think before one speaks.

Tody_ZA179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

Delusional, blind fanboys like yourself will always use the false equivalence of trying to compare acquiring studios to acquiring publishers. But I'll exercise my own delusion in trying to get you to understand the following basic concept:

Sony acquires Insomniac and invests in them, Insomniac grows into one of the best developers in the industry right now with cutting edge tech, Sony's biggest IP in Spider-Man and more developers, more jobs, more games. Net win. Insomniac has a long history of developing PlayStation games and their partnerships with EA (Fuse) and Microsoft (Sunset Overdrive) were not remotely as successful as their PlayStation games.

Microsoft acquires Bethesda, an entire publisher, and so far all there is to show for it is less games on PlayStation. Microsoft then acquires Activision. Net result is major franchises leaving PlayStation and I'm willing to bet that not one single franchise will grow or studio will evolve, and instead these games will follow most of Microsoft's other IPs and diminish in quality and audience.

Let's see how it goes then. But the least you can do is activate some of your brain cells.

Also, if you read the quote he says he's concerned about smaller studios being absorbed into larger enterprises making a bigger game, thus losing the smaller studio. Insomniac has become bigger than ever, they didn't disappear into some subsect of another major Sony developer. His concern is about creativity lost.

Godmars290179d ago

Insomniac's rep became stronger under Playstation, versus what typically happens after MS buys someone.

MrDead179d ago

Leave him be guys, he told me Bethesda releasing a broken game and MS paying for selective positive reviews to make the game sound competent was somehow "poetic justice" to people like me expecting a working and fun game.

"narcissist, arrogant and a hypocrite"... Obsure, is this a cry for help?

KwietStorm_BLM179d ago

Insomniac has basically been a PlayStation studio for the entirety of their existence. Why would you use that as an example. The nonsense you say on literally every post has to be on purpose. There's no way all that irony is accidental.

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ironmonkey179d ago

Aww little fanboy can type, look guys he can type!

Crows90179d ago

Youre mistaking this guy for Phil Spencer.

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Barlos179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

A lot of people do care actually. They don't want to see the industry they love be destroyed by corporate greed

monkey602178d ago

I think I'm starting to go beyond caring. Watching Playstation and Xbox now are like watching the snake eat its own tail.
I cant help but feel like the old blood gamers like us are history and being left behind.

I think my days of buying dozens of games a year are over now. Let the big guys Shovel their games as a service shit and I'll enjoy the couple of good games released by studios that still have a passion.

FinalFantasyFanatic178d ago

@monkey602,

It's okay, there's still indies and some smaller games that are pretty damn good, there's that if anything.

Rockstar179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

Xbox fanboys don't care,

Fixed it for ya Sonyslave3

neutralgamer1992179d ago

Obscure

You have to know the history behind it. Sony tried for decade plus trying to acquire them and always being told no. Insomniac left Sony to go try EA and MS before coming back

That’s one studio at 256 million

MS bought many studios and no one complained because many of those studios could use better support and resources. As gamers MS got the heat for buying publishers when Phil himself said he was against keeping games away from others so please don’t compare Shawn buying insomniac who had a long relationship with Sony to MS buying activision and zenimax. Maybe you are forgetting that before buying zenimax MS bought 10 plus studios and didn’t get much backlash

Obscure_Observer179d ago (Edited 179d ago )

@neutralgamer1992

"You have to know the history behind it. Sony tried for decade plus trying to acquire them and always being told no. Insomniac left Sony to go try EA and MS before coming back"

Thank you for the recap, but I´m very familiar with Insomniac´s history with Sony.

I don´t think you got my point at all.

In no moment in the original story, Layden talks about big publishers acquiring big publishers.

He is now positing himself against big publishers acquisitions of smaller/independent studios, when it´s a well known fact that a few years ago he was congratulating and self-promoting himself, for doing the exact same thing.

It was fine and dandy since he were the one doing, right? Dude´s a hypocrite! Period!

Now, correct me if I wrong.

Didn´t Sony acquired TEN new freaking studios in the last 3 years or so?

Is Layden posting himself against Sony?

Yung-T179d ago

Imagine having your username and entire persona revolve around hating Sony, but then trying to act like you don't care.

Absolute sheep.

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maniacmayhem179d ago

The guy from Tencent is giving a stern lecture about acquisitions.

"This is bad comedy" - Galvatron

Abriael178d ago

It's hilarious to see how much this guy talks like he had anything to teach anyone, honestly. 😂

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