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Putting PlayStation Games on Xbox Might Not Be Worth It, Suggests Former Boss

Former Sony executive Shawn Layden has said that releasing PlayStation games on Xbox might not make sense given Sony's market position. Layden also said that there would be a very negative reaction from the market if Sony was to follow Microsoft’s footsteps.

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MaximusPrime_191d ago

yea, the number of xbox owners around the world is way too low compared to PS and Nintendo owners.

ActualWhiteMan190d ago

False.

Xbox games are playable on almost any device, other than the 2 you mentioned. I would say Xbox software playable devices outnumber sony and nintendo consoles 10:1

derek190d ago

Accept nobody's talking about xbox software. It's about putting Nintendo and or Sony software on xbox hardware sold by Microsoft. There simply isn't that big a customer on xbox platform to risk jeopardizing your own ecosystem for very little profit.

smashman98190d ago

Lol sony already puts their stuff on everything that isn't an xbox or a switch so this comment is kind of weird.

mkis007190d ago

Playable vs played. Big difference.

Rols190d ago

Counting devices that can play Xbox games versus the actual number of xbox users is one of tge dumbest takes. Xbox will be a software developer in the future as the next xbox console will be their last.

VENOM OF SINS190d ago

Xbox owners, as in console owners, not Game Pass subscribers. Xbox is not ahead in hardware sales. The effort required to put PlayStation games on Xbox hardware is heavier than the expected return, which is influenced by the size of the audience and the number of console sales.

Sony might have very little to gain from this strategy. Microsoft, as the underdog, has everything to gain by bringing their games to PlayStation. A sale for Forza Motorsport on the PlayStation platform might be a sale lost for Sony and Gran Turismo.

Now, bringing PlayStation games to Game Pass could be interesting for gamers. I just don't anticipate Microsoft ever providing enough of a financial incentive to Sony to cover the development costs for the caliber of games they release.

neomahi190d ago

Wow, that's a weak arguement

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TheCaptainKuchiki190d ago

There are still tens of millions of people who own an Xbox X/S. If you could sell 1 or 2M more copies of your games, would you say no?
The problem is that because of Gamepass, Xbox players don't buy enough games anymore and Sony isn't gonna put their games on gamepass. Hence why porting to Xbox isn't worth it, it won't bring anything good to PS.

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DEEHULK88191d ago

Tied with 360 in the US and UK is a bit of a stretch. Ps3 was a distant 3rd in both areas.

Alos88191d ago

The difference is that when PS lost it's footing in the PS3 era, they earned it back. When the Xbox One announcement basically derailed Xbox, it never really recovered from it in terms of console sales.

goken191d ago

Yes, and the arrogance of the xbox leadership was a sight to behold. You’d think they came in first instead of third during the ps3, 360, wii generation.

Chevalier191d ago

Distant 3rd? Not really when you factor in a 1/3 of those 360s were RROD replacements. I had a ton of customers at the time buy $100 systems to replace their red ringed systems.

Tacoboto191d ago

Exactly this.

I still have my PS3, MGS4 Bundle console from 2008. One single hardware.

Xbox 360... I bought 3. A launch unit, an Arcade unit when that one died, and the middle redesign because the HDD was huge and it had Wifi + HDMI the earlier ones didn't.

PhillyDonJawn190d ago

That was the early design only

ActualWhiteMan190d ago (Edited 190d ago )

@Tacoboto

You never bought a PS3 Slim, or Super Slim, or Limited Edition console after the MGS bundle?

That's very hard to believe. The YLOD killed almost all the original launch PS3 hardware and most sku's after it until they got the cooling under control with the Slim.

ActualWhiteMan190d ago

YLOD.

People bought replacements on both sides of the aisle.

Knushwood Butt190d ago

Never had ylod and I had two launch systems.

Tacoboto190d ago

@Actual

It worked as of two years ago. I have it in my office entertainment center (unplugged)

One day I'll finish Ni No Kuni on it

FinalFantasyFanatic190d ago

People comparing YLOD to RROD? It's not even in the same ballpark, 360s had anywhere from a 33% to a crazy 60% failure rate, the PS3 was much lower.

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S2Killinit191d ago (Edited 191d ago )

“Distant 3rd” no it wasnt, and PS3 beat xbox 360 to the finish line. PS3 arrived a year after 360. By then 360 had sold 2 million units and it kept up with it, PS3 was behind 2 million units until it caught up and passed the 360. People made a huge deal out of those 2 million units. It seemed like a large number back then. To put it in perspective, today, PlayStation sells 2 million units more than xbox on a monthly basis.

DEEHULK88191d ago

In those areas USA and Uk the PS3 was a distant 3rd. 360 even beat wii in both areas.

S2Killinit191d ago (Edited 191d ago )

If it was 2 million units behind world wide, what is “distant 3rd” mean in two markets only?

And again, PS3 passed 360 sales.

JEECE191d ago

You aren't factoring in the regional breakdowns. Yes, PS3 ended up passing 360 (87 millionish to 85 millionish seems to be the final tally). But PS3 destroyed 360 in Japan (Like 10 million to 1 million) and also comfortably outsold 360 in Europe and the rest of the world. Mathematically, the only way the totals work is that 360 substantially outsold PS3 in the US.

PhillyDonJawn190d ago

360 outsold Ps3 by like 20 million in the US/UK

S2Killinit190d ago

@PhillyDon
In what parallel universe?

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MaximusPrime_191d ago

I don't know how young you were at the time but that's a poor research. Now you should be capable of using the internet, youll be shocked to learn the true story of how PS3 was more successful than Xbox 360 than you think.

Xbox 360 had a 33.3% failure rate (one survey revealed over 50% failure rate), hence the infamous Red Ring of Death. Also Xbox 369 launched a year earlier than PS3.

If you line up how much each console sold, PS3 sold more.

DEEHULK88191d ago

IN THOSE AREAS UK AND USA.

raWfodog190d ago (Edited 190d ago )

Why are you intent on regurgitating stale data? That article is from 2013. Have you bothered to do any more up-to-date research?

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/...

Not sure why some are only focusing on "U.S. vs the World" sales numbers.

lukasmain191d ago (Edited 191d ago )

Sorry, I misread u

anast191d ago

Revisionist history. Xbox products have always been in 3rd place.

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anast191d ago

Nintendo make games for children. They have a larger base.

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DEEHULK88191d ago (Edited 191d ago )

It was number 1 in those 2 regions back then. In both areas they beat wii by a little and ps3 by a lot.

anast191d ago

Back then they made games for children. It's their thing.

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DEEHULK88191d ago

360 was the 2nd best selling home console in both regions(US and UK) after PS2 until Switch surpassed it last year.

ABizzel1191d ago

The truth is the truth, the 360 and Wii were neck and neck in the US, the PS3 was a like 15 million units behind. The PS3 made a comeback due to Europe overall, JP was still buying consoles, and it managed to still do well in the US and PAL regions considering.

DEEHULK88191d ago

Correct except for the ps3 us part because the performance was poor based on their standards. It didn't even sell more than the One in the US.

PhillyDonJawn190d ago

@Dee these ppl have reading comprehension issues or something lol

Chevalier190d ago

"People bought replacements on both sides of the aisle"

Clearly you have no idea if you think its anything similar at all. I worked at a EB/Gamestop and it was not even close to the same.

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Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 devs praise games like Space Marine 2 for "lowering the barrier"

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 developers discuss the huge success of Space Marine 2 and its effect on the series as a whole.

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Jingsing1d 12h ago

How about an official level editor for Boltgun?

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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TheEroica2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb2d ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek2d ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack1d 21h ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor1d 19h ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning771d 19h ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

InUrFoxHole1d 10h ago

Lol. You haven't seen anything special? Do you even game?

OtterX2d ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer19922d ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX2d ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer19922d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted2d ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast2d ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica2d ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand1252d ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

InUrFoxHole1d 10h ago

@OtterX
You're the dude mad at your exes new guy. She's with someone else... get over it.

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot072d ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen2d ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica2d ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer882d ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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