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Silent Hills Developer Deciding Between First Person and Third Person Point of View

WhatIfGaming writes: "It is always a pleasure when I run into Kojima. I have had the pleasure of interviewing Kojima several times and...."

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NatureOfLogic_3553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

Why not a mix of both. If I had to choose one It would definitely be first person though. Just look at the reactions of the playable teaser. A lot of people are saying they'll buy Silent Hills based on what they played in P.T. Also first person is scarier than 360 camera, because you can't preview what's around a corner or behind you. It's more realistic which adds to those "S*** your pants" moments that Kojima is going for. PT wouldn't be half as scary in third person.

TheOpenWorlder3553d ago

Totally agree too. if PT was 3rd person, i would be way way more willing to play it. I played it a bit and it was too scary for me

Nitrowolf23553d ago

@ The Disagree's

He's saying it would be more playable, as in he wouldn't be that scared.

Anyway, I hope they incldue the option for Both. If you can play MGS4 from the get go in either 1st Person or 3rd person, I don't see why they can';t do it here

Palitera3553d ago

Judging for the demo, I vote the opposite. It was masterfully done in first person.

The scarier, the better!

Lightning Mr Bubbles3552d ago

I say first person, The PI demo really impressed me, it gives a more real sense that you're there. We don't need to be looking at a dudes back the whole time to make the game better. Nothing wrong with that either, but it's a new gen, try something new. I'm just saying cause the first person view of the PI demo looked really good.

vishmarx3552d ago

too bad 1st person wont cut it for the full game.
theres also going to be exploration and shooting
however, first person during interior puzzle sections would be killer.
pt is the only game thats ever got me nervous while playing(gold headsets+alone+night)

x_RadicalAura_x3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

"Too scary?" I thought that was the point of Silent Hill... I want it to give me nightmares.

NewMonday3552d ago

anybody that played Outlast would pick first person

@Nitrowolf2

each point a view has different design for movement and scale, in a game like this it would ruin the atmosphere. look at the games that have both you will find going to 3rd person feels awkward.

PLASTICA-MAN3552d ago

Why not use both like in Silent Hill 4 (which has the best system ever and the most horrifiying one sadly the game had enormous potential that didn't get exploited): Third person for open environments and 1st person when you enter houses to make it freakier with direct contact like in P.T demo).

Mainman3552d ago

Third person. Too many first person content out there, and generally just not a fan of first person.

BG115793552d ago

It's hard to choose here.
PT worked very well on 1st person view. It was a really immersive. The jumps-scares are really better this way.
At this point, even dough 3rd person is better overall for control, and all previous SH were done this way, I would prefer the 1st person view.

nosferatuzodd3552d ago

lol i concur it was scary has hell i stop after that ghost woman slam the bathroom door on me lol

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GribbleGrunger3553d ago

I would say -- baring in mind they've just hired a Hollywood star -- that third person would be the way to go ...

Lightning Mr Bubbles3552d ago

That's what's bad about it, Hollywood. No room for that in gaming.

Benjammin253552d ago

Japanese don't really make first person games though. They like their characters to be seen so they can have more personality. More personality than if the whole game was seen through their eyes.

NewMonday3552d ago

@GribbleGrunger

even at 3rd person you would be looking at the back of his head anyway

BiggerBoss3553d ago

It would be cool if it was third person while out in the streets, but switched to a first person camera when inside like the PT demo. That might be kind of strange in practice though

KingOfOldSkool3552d ago

I think it could work if done right, it would certainly be a nice change of pace.

fr0sty3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

First... if you made P.T. third person, it wouldn't be anywhere near as scary. You would be able to see what was immediately behind you, and would feel detached from the person you were controlling rather than feeling like you were actually there exploring.

I could understand third person maybe for the sequences not meant to be scary, as well as cutscenes.

KingOfOldSkool3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

I agree, I've always felt that a whipping 360 camera tends to negatively affect the overall experience in a survival horror game.

I'm personally hoping for what Kojima mentioned in the article about the possibility of there being a primarily fixed third person camera with a switch to first for certain sections. I think it would be a nice blend of classic SH and the new PT approach, especially if there is more of an emphasis on town exploration to go along with various closed quarters.

JsonHenry3552d ago

I'd prefer them to use a clever mix of both. Kinda like Silent Hill: The Room.

Bhuahahaha3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

double post sry

Bhuahahaha3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

i always get dizzy when playing fps T_T

thats why i rarely play shooter games even when i really like to.

i would really like it if they give players a choice of adjusting the camera.it will just take a lil time to code i think.

fr0sty3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

This isn't a shooter though, you're not whipping the camera around frantically. Your movement is limited to a slow walk. You could add the option to change camera angles, but at the expense of killing the game's horror element. It just isn't as creepy in third person.

DanteVFenris6663550d ago (Edited 3550d ago )

Maybe a little coding, but tons of animations. First person will have a different set of animations then first person. If you noticed first person isn't correctly portrayed but to make it look good they stack hands and stuff onto the players screen that only that player can see.

So in saying if they were to do both that's double the animations which is why games never do both besides a few.

Edit: or multiplayer games as you have no choice as you have to see the other players anyway.

DevilOgreFish3552d ago

I like 3rd person a little more, but i'll let the fans decide.

mantisimo3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

Third person please Hideo just like the early games it won't take away from the scares look at SH2.

There are many gamers like me who just can't ( much as we'd like to ) play FP games.

Also nearly all horror games at the moment are Fp and pretty samey.

Let's go on the journey with the character not as the character it works so well previously.

BallsEye3552d ago (Edited 3552d ago )

FPP! more immersive!

And why there is Daryl from walking dead in that article photo ?

http://barbarashdwallpapers...

ziggurcat3552d ago

"And why there is Daryl from walking dead in that article photo ?"

uh... because he's playing the main character...

Gardenia3552d ago

From what I've heard from most Silent Hill fans and my personal choice as well is that third person is the way a Silent Hill should be like.

Silent Hill shouldn't be about cheap jump scares, but rather about the psychological sickness that has always been the best part of Silent Hill

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TheOpenWorlder3553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

Dayum. Finally a guy actually asked them than being a complete r-tard like other reporters To me this was the most important question about the game. i dont give 2 shits about reedus

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BrandeusD3553d ago

Yeah I seriously dont understand why more sites dont ask the actual important questions.

Kojima better make this shit first person or im not buying it if its another 3rd person piece of shit

-Foxtrot3553d ago

That's funny because I see more shitty first person games then third person ones.

NovusTerminus3553d ago

Third, please. I don't want more FPS games.

JackOfAllBlades3553d ago

First person is more immersive, imagine Morpheus support

JoyiusHammer3553d ago

No one cares about a big brick infront of their eyes using cell phone screens lol

DanteVFenris6663550d ago

Seeing your disagrees obviously a lot of people do. Next time say "I don't like vr"

HappyWithOneBubble3552d ago

We know what he meant though. I prefer 3rd person over 1st and wasn't all past games in 3rd so yeah keep it like it is.

MysticStrummer3552d ago

3rd person is just as tired as 1st. Either one can be great or lame. I think the reaction to that teaser said it all. People wouldn't have been nearly as creeped out if it was 3rd person imo.

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20 Awesome Canceled Games You'll Never Get To Play

You can understand some games getting canceled, but these awesome looking games still baffle us to this very day.

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"Tommy saving the planet from an army of aliens after they abducted him and his entire bar, with the game ending on the promise that Tommy would be back, but that promise was never fulfilled"

The thing is with the original Prey 2 that Tommy wasn't even the main character, they replaced him with some generic looking space bounty hunter. It was a refreshing change to see an awesome Native American character with ancestral like powers fight aliens yet they ditched him. It was only after an outcry they showed much later in a new preview that Tommy was in the game as an NPC.

I'd have prefered a real sequel with Tommy as the main character, literally picking right up from the originals ending.

As for Eight Days...Sony really needs to pick this up

If Amy Hennig was still at ND, I'd have loved to see her tackle it after what she did with Uncharted.

isarai61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

I thought that was awesome too, and honestly i wish people werent so damn critical about cultural variety in games. I feel like people try to ruin devs lives if even one detail is off about their culture in a game and so everyone is too scared to try anymore

isarai61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

One of the lead engine programmers for Prey 2 at Human Head was my programming instructor when i was taking game design. This game was in limbo at the time and we asked once and only once about this game, the misery in his eyes when he told us "this is the 1st and only time ill ask you to never ask me about that game" was something ill never forget😅 he used a couple assets through the curriculum for teaching purposes but nothing very tangible. Just a function here, a 3d prop there. Such a shame. Years later i saw him at a magic tournament, we caught up and he still thinks about that game and how it's "practically done" probably sitting on a drive somewhere

shinoff218360d ago (Edited 60d ago )

Practically done? Jeez that fking blows because that looked much more interesting then what bethsada made. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the one bethsada made.

Lmno looked interesting.
I'd knock titanfall and fez off the list. Add something else. Scarface 2 man only if would've been awesome. Prey 2 should be higher to. Either way not a bad list. Out of 20 there's only 2 I'd hate on.

isarai60d ago

That gen got a lot of games canned right before the finish line. Cipher Complex, Battlefront 3, legacy of kain dead sun just to name a few

XiNatsuDragnel60d ago

Games that need to come out: Battlefront 3, 8 days, and timesplitter 4.

Skuletor59d ago

One that's not on the list is Killing Day, I remember seeing the trailer in 2005 and being impressed at the time. Being Ubisoft you know it would have been a AAAA game too, lol
2 Days to Vegas and The Getaway 3 are two other games that seemed promising but never came out.

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Canceled Video Game Sequels That Never Happened

Anticipation can turn into disappointment so often in the video game world. Canceled video game sequels can feel devastating, especially those that promise to expand upon the thrilling stories of their predecessor. Wealth of Geeks runs down some of the most disappointing cancelations that kept anticipated sequels in the dark.

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shinoff218383d ago (Edited 83d ago )

The orginal prey 2 better be on this list.

And it is. Man if could've got this instead. Wonder why no one's step up to do this kinda game yet. I think there's one in development for pc, it's cyberpunk Era but it takes place in some huge apartment complex I think. Anyway I'm saying this not knocking the prey that came out cause I did enjoy that to but really wanted prey 2 (canceled)

Skuletor83d ago

I wonder if they never happened because they were cancelled 🤔 (stupid headline)

Rockstar83d ago

Was just thinking the same thing...

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GaboonViper291d ago

Silent Hills cancellation was a travesty.

mrbearbear290d ago

I still wonder to this day if it was a reboot, or sequel.

cammers1995291d ago

Lol. The tags made it so I didn't have to visit your website.

goldwyncq290d ago

Kojima wouldn't have started his own studio if Silent Hills didn't get cancelled so even if it stung at first, I'm fine with it.

chobit_A5HL3Y290d ago

i remember being so excited for patriots for years, only to have them release that siege trash. i hate how multiplayer games, pvp in particular, have ruined so many potentially good games.

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