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The Last of Us PS4 Dev Explains Pop-In Bugs; Promise to Ship Better Game and Engine Inspired by Fans

If you're playing The Last of Us Remastered you possibly noticed that the game suffers from pop-in issues in certain areas. Basically when you walk close to some elements of the environment they just "pop" into view. Other items "fade" into view and more flicker between being visible and invisible. All those glitches, while minor, can be a little disturbing. Naughty Dog programmer Corrinne Yu, which is well known for being an industry-wide expert in graphics engineering, gave an in-depth explanation also explaining how she learned more about the PS4 GPU and promising to do better, also inspired by all the pictures sent by fans.

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SeraphimNympho3986d ago

The only one I noticed during my play through was the palette appearing / disappearing in the water. It's such a shame because this sort of thing is literally the only thing about the ps4 remaster that doesn't stack up to the ps3 version - while everything else is better.

Battlefieldlover3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Ya, I on the other hand have seen every one shown and also a tree that faded away as u moved away but not the ones right next to it lol. I'm only a third way through too which sucks a lil.

However, there isn't anything i have seen that has made me regret buying it again. Great freaking game and even better looking when you don't have these issues...that literaly every game has some example of.

Edit: i will say this. When i move forward and try to slightly turn left or right my character stutters. Like full on stutter, start complete stop, start complete stop. Now that i could see driving me nuts during the coming hectic parts.

FanboyKilla3986d ago

c'mon some of that is pretty crappy work. we know they are better. really sucks for those who bought it twice. they never showed gameplay, this is why. no matter how you turn it, its shady.

i remember: the last of us looks amazing, more amazing screen shots from the last of us, it looks like it was made for ps4. That last one is insulting to infamous ss. hell, ac black flag looks better than tlou remastered imo.

should have left it alone untill your heart was back in it. now this is how your game will be remembered. smh cause it really is a good game. its the business side thats making it look ugly. cashing in on our love for it. it shows in your final work.

TKCMuzzer3986d ago

Remember to close the door on your way out...........

jmac533985d ago

I feel like like the 3 posts above were either from English as a second language or poor grammar. Either way it was hard to read.

Exoil3985d ago

@jmac: What are you talking about? Maybe you should go and practise your reading ability a bit if you find that hard to read buddy.

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ramiuk13985d ago

i have nopticed entire walls pop up,go from blank grey to having windows,doors etc.
my 1st time n games awesomeso far

supes_243985d ago

I had a issue in the beginning, when you're leaving the quarantine zone and first come across the infected in the abandoned building and progressing through the spores. In the dark, it looked all oily. I couldn't make out anything actually. It was weird. Then I finally made it back outside in the daylight and it took a little while for the game to "load" that section of game play.

trancefreak3985d ago

Good because I am going or was going to upload the draw distance bug to them.

It is a flicker of light that appears depending on DOF. If you look straight up into the sky in the beginning of "FALL" the trees will disappear and only the clouds will be visible.

It's not bad but it is present.

HanzoHattori3982d ago

The game has several glitches. For instance, during one of the segments of the game that involve the use of the pallets, if you make Joel jump on top of it, the game will lock up and freeze. That's just one of many glitches that i've come across. It's still an enjoyable game to play though.

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GeraltofRivia3986d ago

Good old "next gen" gaming, outdated out of the box.

SpinalRemains1383986d ago

Remakes using previous generation engines usually are.

Neixus3986d ago

The fact that they had to port the game from a very complex and clunky architecture, to ps4, is not an easy job. They still did a pretty good job.

TKCMuzzer3986d ago

The odd pop in...still looks and plays brilliantly, great job by Naughty Dog, would have been some big tech hurdles to get over converting from PS3...

1nsomniac3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

At least it's getting acknowledged. There's a lot of issues with the remastered version.

There's this pop-up issue, the occasional completely missing texture that just shimmers white. The lighting which occasionally decides it's going to change randomly (effect filter pop-in).

Then there's all the issues in multiplayer regarding stats, mic not working, the wrong team winning when the round ends & it clears all your kills(really annoying when your doing survivor missions & you've achieved your checklist).

Luckily the multiplayer issues at least on the server side are getting fixed quickly. I'll be happier when the mic issue is completely sorted though!

None of these issues were in the PS3 version which is another reason I have a gripe with the remaster pricing.

Yi-Long3986d ago

It's getting acknowledged AFTER the game is released.

That's disgusting. Obviously, they should have known about this issue before.

None of the previews mentioned it. None of the reviews have mentioned it. That's ridiculous.

Clearly it's noticeable, yet the developers only 'acknowledge' it after the game has been sold and people are getting upset about it, and why previews and reviews didn't bother mentioning it, is almost at least as questionable, as far as I'm concerned. It's their job to inform potential customers!

1nsomniac3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

To be fair I've got to agree with you. We were told many lies prior to launch which is why I've now only got 2 bubbles left because I wouldn't let people forget or ignore them.

I am glad though that they have acknowledged these because at least some of them may get fixed. The fact that Corrinne Yu has said she knows about this & will learn from it in future is disgusting though I agree because she is one that fed us a lot of the crap prior to release, she's not the only one though as to be honest the majority of the straight out lies came from guys in the ND PR department.

anwe3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

I feel like this is the real reason no gameplay was shown, and not because of the bs "60 fps not being done justice" excuse we kept hearing. Trouble is anytime it was brought up the fanboys would eat you alive.

I like the game and I'm enjoying it, but I've experienced a lot of what is shown. I've also been bumped into by Bill and knocked across the screen until I hit a fence.

anwe3986d ago

For some reason I can't edit my post, but I wanted to add that I also have a problem with Ellie disappearing for long periods of time leaving me to explore alone. After a while shes just instantly by my side again, having come from nowhere.

LOGICWINS3986d ago

And yet five people disagreed with you.

/facepalm

The people here are so pathetic its not even funny.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3985d ago

It seems no one has yet to bring up frame drops still. which plagued the 'perfect' ps3 version. I wonder how bad they are on the ps4 version.

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Patrick_pk443986d ago

"Then there's all the issues in multiplayer regarding stats, mic not working, the wrong team winning when the round ends & it clears all your kills(really annoying when your doing survivor missions & you've achieved your checklist)."

I'm on week 8 and never experienced any of these problems listed. My only problem is the length of finding a lobby, but that was acknowledged and will be fixed soon.

AntsPai3986d ago

I noticed this too, absolute disgrace to be honest. I understand its still and excellent game and I pre-ordered it of PSN here in UK (1am unlock come on!) but I was disappointed by a few things in the game, I understand things like this happen but they already had this game made before this. I guess I'm just bitter because I've paid for it twice and expected no problems, I hope these get patched ASAP.

I expect disagrees for no reason, maybe some accusations that I haven't played it (check my psn profile). I'm just saying my opinion, I loved TLoU, still do, I just wish the remaster was more polished, the motion blur, frame drops and pop-ins are really distracting in single player.

Abriael3986d ago

Maybe you're gonna get disagrees because calling it an "absolute disgrace" is the very soul of hyperbole.

That tends to be a little more than "no reason" :D

AntsPai3986d ago

It's hard to say it's not a disgrace though, this is Naughty Dog, they are top-tier, God-tier even, these problems weren't in the PS3 version, this is why it's annoying. I was really looking forward to this and while it's still great it should have been perfected for launch.

daBUSHwhaka3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

At the end of the day,this is a disgrace.How many play test runs have ND had before release,and they didn't pick up on these things or just decided to ignore until after release.It's the DICE/EA/BF4 bullshit.Launch it now fix it later.For a Dev like ND who think there the Dogs Balls in development this is piss poor.Before you know it every Dev has the same attitude.

LonDonE3986d ago

LMAO these are minor glitches/bugs SHEESH! i dont think people realise that the fact that Naughty dog got this game working on the PS4 at a steady 60fps native 1080p so fast is amazing! seriously this games engine and code used the cell processor extensively and most people know the cell and its programming was very exotic!!

The fact they got the game running so well on PS4 so fast is pretty great! i for one would gladly take these minor bugs/glitches if it means more games will be native 1080p at a steady 60fps and still look and play as awesome as the last of us.

I understand people can find things like these bugs annoying but they are so minor in comparison say to Titanfall which is a X1 console exclusive and still has constant screen tearing whenever you touch the right stick to look around and also it has LOTS of frame rate drops when more then 1 titan is on screen! That to me for a newly launched supposed next gen console is unacceptable! especially when the developers are known for creating great 60fps games with limited hardware!

Seriously no one was forced to play or buy the TLOUR, people could have easily bought the PS3 version used and cheap and which still looks better then allot of next gen games!
I think the fact you are calling this a total disgrace says allot about u as a gamer.

The game is AWESOME, and i find it funny how people have come to expect near flawless games from naughty dog which i suppose makes some sense since they are one of, if not THE BEST developer in the world!!!
But people need to understand last gen games and game engines where more cpu focused and less gpu intensive since last gen consoles both had powerful cpu's and pretty mediocre/weak gpu's! its why allot of last gen games used the cell to offload tasks.

But this new gen the new consoles have stronger gpu's and weaker cpu's and so until games and the game engines are coded to take advantage of the gpgpu more as opposed to the cpu we will end up with bad or average last gen games.
The PS4 has a gpgpu which can do cpu tasks and so once devs start to use the gpgpu better games should perform even better!

Its the same problem which wii u had, the wii u has weak cpu, but has a gpgpu to back it up similar to the PS4 but because last gen ports on wii u were more cpu intensive and didn't use the gpgpu functions we got mediocre and bad ports.
Things should improve for all 3 new gen consoles.

Take a chill pill people! this game runs and looks stunning, yes it has flaws as do ALL GAMES!
I do hope these issues get patched.

oneluckybullet3986d ago

i think ppl are upset bc no one mentioned it till it was sold. prior all you heard from nd was them beating their chests that anything under 60 fps was inferior, 1080p, blah blah. maybe we shouldnt be so mad at nd but more at the reviewers and previewers that said nothing.

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Kenshin_BATT0USAI3985d ago

Posts like this are depressing to read, because I feel like you're understanding of game related news is 'sony = good, not sony = bad'

LonDonE3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

@Kenshin_BATT0USAI
THATS BULL!! look at my avatar pic i game on all platforms unlike allot of N4G keyboard warriors!
look at my comment history before you make such a baseless comment about me!! yes i am human,and i have preference's but when Sony drop the ball i call it out! i dont care about the down votes from fan boys.
If Sony, Nintendo or M.S screw up i call it out!
So your comment is complete rubbish aimed at me.

@PumpkinEater69
dude i too play it often and i admit since update 4 and 5 screen tearing has decreased and the frame rate is more stable as i have mentioned on previous posts of mine again check peoples comment history! while i admit it has improved it still tears and drops frame rate too much! i play it EVERY NIGHT! for a supposed AAA shooter which is a fps a locked 60fps or near enough is CRUCIAL! the frame rate is just not stable enough hence why most competitive pro gamers have dropped it like a bad habit! it should never have been released in the state that it was.

And regardless of the slow optimising which i do applaud respawn for regardless the game is far from where it should be!

@oneluckybullet
I agree reviewers should point these things out but that is the industry which is at fault as a whole. I am just saying that these are minor problems in the grand scheme of things! PS3 cell intensive games like naughty dog games are very complex and getting them ported to PS4 so fast is commendable.
People have a right to be upset i just think people are over reacting compared to some of the other things going on in gaming.

Specter2293985d ago

I only expect flawless when the reviews are all perfect scores with hardly any cons listed. It's an awesome game all the same though.

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Gatsu3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

The only bugs I've noticed in my playthrough have been while grabbing enemies few times, while trying to strangle they teleport like 5 meters away from me which was a bit confusing ;).
Don't remember if it happened to me before on PS3 though. But only happened two times with Remastered so far, so no big deal. Other than that been a perfect adventure once again :D . I don't let minor things to stop me from enjoying this game.

Battlefieldlover3986d ago

lol nice, haven't had that one yet.

Gatsu3986d ago

Yeah I was like what the heck, where is the dude :O... and then saw Ellie kicking his ass lol. :D

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The Last of Us Part 1 – Why The Ending is Still so Impactful

The Last of Us never dreams of insulting its audience’s intelligence. And the best example of this is, of course, is its ending.

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shinoff2183927d ago

Shit the beginning was to. I'm not sure how I would feel if I didn't have kids but having them it broke my heart to see.

ClayRules2012927d ago

Yes. The beginning and ending…how they break you, make you think , question things etc. so impactful.

And yeah, I have a son (he’ll be going to college here next year) and just feeling Joel’s pain, heartbreak, loss…it hits you differently when you have a kid (s) of your own.

PhillyDillyDee927d ago

I didnt have kids when i played it and the beginning had me sobbing. That story left an impact on me

Orchard927d ago

The story was a rollercoaster from start to finish. Probably my 1st or 2nd most favorite game on PS3 (the other being MGS4).

Aloymetal927d ago

I agree with you. MGS4 was truly special, I wasn't the biggest fan of the long cutscenes but I understand is part of Kojima. Great game nonetheless.

Snookies12927d ago

Best Metal Gear game, coming from a HUGE fan of the series. I bought a PS3 JUST for MGS4. And got the collector's edition too. Worth every bit of money.

Yes, the cutscenes can be very lengthy. But a lot of it was quite necessary to really tie things together. Previous games had some longer cutscenes as well. It's just that they were trying to wrap everything up with MGS4. So, it's understandable that they'd have to throw some info dumps into the game here and there.

Orchard927d ago

The cutscenes are long indeed, every Kojima game sets a new record there :P

But the game was awesome, the second they showed that first E3 demo, it was clear it was going to be something special.

I still remember being mind blown by the Octocamo. It was also the first third person shooter game where I felt like the controls and aiming etc all went smooth / fluid and weren't janky. Hard to explain in words, but it felt 'natural' to aim, move etc in it.

gangsta_red927d ago

I thought the game went on a little too long and it started to wear thin. It should have stopped at Winter. That would have been a great way to end that game with the sequel continuing from there (if necessary).

-Foxtrot927d ago

I loved it however the ambiguous ending was kind of ruined in the sequel

The first game had this conflicting grey area of Joel's actions, a decision to let you think it over and discuss it with people, however the sequel created a narrative that "OMG JOEL 100% DOOMED HUMANITY...HOW SELFISH" and making out Ellie wanted to die in the hospital even though 1) She didn't know she was going to die and 2) She was ready to see Joel once she got out of surgery so he could teach her how to play Guitar.

For me he did the right thing, I mean they pretty much attacked him when he was trying to save Ellie, they lied to him and said they were going to kill her without thinking any other decision out or asking Ellie herself and they pretty much were going to throw him out onto the street without any of his weapons/gear where he could have probably died. There was no guarantee a cure could be made with these guys, it was all "chance".

Crows90927d ago

Exactly. He made the first good decision and this time around the girl he took care of didn't die while escaping...which alluded to the beginning of the game. He was prepared this time.

-Foxtrot927d ago

Like I just don't know why the Fireflies (and now Jerry in Part II) didn't think about any other tests, it was literally "Yeah this bitch has gotta die". You're telling me they couldn't wait for more blood tests, think of new ways to approach it? The worlds been gone for decades, it's not going to collapse even more by waiting, the damage is done.

If they woke Ellie up and asked her but Joel also told her what they did and were going to do to him I don't think she'd really want to sacrifice her life for these guys compared how she suddenly reacts in the sequel.

Even the hospital setting in the original game was run down, dirty and literally the best they could do, that alone didn't inspire confidence they had the tools to distribute a cure let along make one. I know the sequel and remake kind of retcon it where it looked cleaner, brighter and newer but again I'm going off the original, the first time I played it. The Fireflies at the end of the day were not good people, they were still terrorists with their own ambitious goals in mind, I don't think they would have been fair handing out the cure if they did get it made

TricksterArrow927d ago (Edited 927d ago )

It's a work of fiction, and more than once Bruce and Neil stated that the cure was a given, it was a sure thing and they regret not making it more clearly. If the cure wasn't a thing, the ending wouldn't ne nearly as impactful as is.

Crows90927d ago

@trickster
Except tlou2 states that it isnt a given. The ending is still impactful.

Inverno926d ago

Think the reason why she was going to die was because the guy was a vet, not a doctor

-Foxtrot926d ago

Yet suddenly was the only person who could create a cure

"We deffo need to kill her"

"Wait...WHY"

"Trust me....I'm a vet"

TricksterArrow926d ago (Edited 926d ago )

Jerry was a doctor. A lead doctor. His bio makes it clear that he attended Northern Utah Medical University. He just happened to like animals. I wonder if people really pay attention to the games they play anymore (if they played, it’s a toss with TLOU2’s critics)…

Imalwaysright926d ago

TricksterArrow

You should play the PS3 version. Once you do, you'll realize that the ending was retconned because Jerry wasn't the surgeon that was going to kill Ellie.

TricksterArrow926d ago

I played all versions. He was not a vet in any of them.

Imalwaysright926d ago

He was not in the original version of the game but the "Jerry" that Joel killed in the original clearly wasn't someone that acted professionaly or inspired confidence because he was willing to work in a dirty operating room and was wearing boots.

TricksterArrow926d ago (Edited 926d ago )

Jerry was a minor unnamed role that got expanded on the sequel and also got recast, not unlike any TV series and games before this one (such as Resident Evil, in which Claire, Leon, Carlos and Chris all look considerably different from one iteration to the other). Also, still not a vet. And also unsure what argument you are trying to make by “dirty room” and “wearing boots”. He is still a doctor that has the ability to develop a cure, it doesn’t matter what he is wearing or what tools are at his disposal, the story is what it is.

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ChubbyBlade926d ago

That’s why I didn’t like part 2. It removed all the nuance

Inverno926d ago

I think when you realize he's a vet, Joel's decision feels a bit more justified for those who played both games. Just playing, since you're in Joel's shoes, you don't really question it. Then playing the second there's a justification that doesn't take away from Joel's decision but for the player should reinforce your understanding of it.

You said it in the second comment. "The Fireflies at the end of the day were not good people, they were still terrorists with their own ambitious goals in mind." That's why they just went along with killing her cause they didn't want to figure out some other way.

shinoff2183926d ago

Foxtrot

I think they just tried to show you how Joel's decision affected more then just Joel and ellie . Just showing different angles and a bigger picture. I think Joel did the right thing.

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dmonee927d ago

The story had me emotionally engaged. Gaming for 40 years it was the first time a game story messed with my emotions in the way movies do. As far as the game and gameplay? Not so much lol. It wasn’t bad in my opinion but the game itself was ok. It was the storyline that kept me going in TLOU 1 and TLOU 2.

ClayRules2012926d ago

“As far as the game and gameplay? Not so much lol. It wasn’t bad in my opinion but the game itself was ok.“

What exactly did the game do that qualifies it for just being ok? And same question for the gameplay?

dmonee926d ago

That’s a tough question because I could ramble on and on as to why. I’m speaking for myself because I usually pass on survival horror type games. So instead of getting into a debate as to why I found the gameplay to be ok. I originally commented on how the narrative had me emotionally sucked in. Especially the opening segment. So much that I purchased a game I would never have purchased if not for the story. It’s more kudos to the developer for getting people like me out of my comfort zone to play a game I wouldn’t usually play.

ClayRules2012927d ago

I know some people were upset with Joel lying to Ellie (friends of mine) that they felt it should’ve given the player an option to have Joel either

A. Lie to Ellie or B. Tell Ellie the truth. Type of situation, which just makes no sense. The game nor its story doesn’t given the player any control to have/make any choices that change the direction or outcome of ANY of these characters in this unforgiving and dark world.

I don’t blame Joel for doing what he did.

1. Ellie became the “Something” that he needed to keep fighting for, beyond just living day to day, simply being survivors.

2. Marlene gave orders to that no -name guard to kill Joel if he tried anything…you just done pissed him off all the more with those words. I wonder, if Joel had been killed and Marlene ever came across Tommy again (Joel’s brother) would she have the guts to tell him “Listen Tommy, we need to talk! About Joel…I couldn’t waste this gift. Tommy “What the hell you talking about, Marlene??” Marlene “I had Joel killed, if he” Tommy “YOU SON OF A BITCH!” Got carried away there lol. You get the idea tho. To my point, it wasn’t guaranteed that Ellie was the cure, and after all Joel did, went through, not even allowing Joel to see Ellie, just talk with her, that’s messed up.

3. Of course looking at the actions Joel took in the hospital and how that has major consequences in Part 2 for him, Ellie etc. it’s not like there wouldn’t have been a big threat later on at some point. This world is wicked, dark, unforgiving and everyone’s growing up, has their own WANTS. NEEDS. DESIRES. Solely for themselves, loved ones, or group. All while trying to survive.

Joel I think knew when he said “I Swear” that he’d done something much worse than when he actually saved Ellie from that operating room and possibly causing death to humanity (as if it would be appreciated anyways.

Yes, he lied to the one person who gave him purpose to live, purpose to have hope, purpose to be that father again (which he of course wasn’t looking for, but it just naturally happened upon him) like he was to his daughter Sarah all those years ago. And to him, maybe in that moment, lying would be worth the little bit of time, the years they’d have together creating memories, seeing Ellie grow up before his eyes etc. rather than lie to her and see a reaction in words and deeds in which she might’ve ran off losing all hope and trust in him etc. I mean, she did lose trust in him all those years later etc. but as we saw, she was willing to work with him, try to repair what Joel broke, and he knew it wouldn’t be easy, as did she. But with time she understood I think why he did what he did.

It’s just sad in the end, his lie, the time they lost with his betrayal, and than horrific death, caused Ellie to go seek revenge in a way in which Ellie changed, she kept chipping off more of herself along the journey, scary and sad thing to see, and exhausting. But powerful storytelling throughout it all.

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Top 10 PlayStation Plus Premium Horror Games

We love to scare ourselves silly within the horror genre of video games. Thankfully, there are many to find on PlayStation Plus Premium, such as the intense Resident Evil VII: Biohazard and cult favorite Little Nightmares.

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PlayStation Store July Sale Is Live With More Than 500 Games Discounted

PlayStation Store is offering a new sale this week with more than 500 games discounted including some DLCs. See the complete list here.

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