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Phil Spencer comments on DX12 Xbox One Resolution Rumor

Phil Spencer comments on the DirectX 12 resolution rumor.

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stuna14113d ago

So in otherwords no! The resolution-gate saga will continue.

nicksetzer14113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

Exactly what "stay tuned" means ..... your extrapolation of information is excellent. /s

Kingthrash3604113d ago

smh..and it continues....
i just dont want to hear how res dosent matter from xbox loyals anymore...
all i hear is how res didn't matter...now it suddenly does because software is magical.
after reality sets in, and we see that hardware is hardware i don't want to see yall going back to res doesn't matter argument...because right now with this dx hype...it suddenly matters.

ABizzel14113d ago

These single, pointless, uninformative tweets being submitted as full news stories needs to stop.....like 8 weeks ago.

Waffles114113d ago

The ability to make software improvements can only happen on the Xbox one, so differences in hardware are a non factor. Obviously, this will be the turning point.

CYCLEGAMER4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

@kingthrash

I don't think xbox fans really care when it comes to the actual games. I think xbox fans bring it up to shut up the sony fans who continually bring it up when a multiplat comes out and is 1080p on the ps4 and below that on the xb1

@abizzel
TOTALLY AGREE!! He didn't say anything, he basically said wait.

lifeisgamesok4113d ago

Yeah some people will always try to turn any rep from Microsoft's words into something negative

Sounds like we're going to hear about the future of graphics on 3/20

@Kingthrash Resolutions still don't matter as much as you like to think it does. 1080p doesn't equate to the best graphics just look at Battlefield, Ryse

malokevi4113d ago

nobody ever said that resolution doesn't matter. It's just not as important as gameplay. We are happy with good games, regardless of what resolution they come in. High resolution is nice, but not necessary. Not worth fighting over. You Sony fans drone on about different pixel amounts, what we're saying is... we don't care!

I'm interested to see what DX12 does for the X1. I don't see why people are brushing it off. Obviously this has been long in the works. It's not like new APIs are going to hurt any. I think it's reasonable to expect that DX12 will offer improvements over DX11. So sayeth common sense.

nicksetzer14113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

@kingthrash don't think it is that anyone cares about res (at least not as minimal as it currently is) it is that xbox fans hope to hear news showing xb1 to be on par or better than ps4 so all you idiots will shut up and just enjoy games, instead of making everything a war with your only argument being a few pixels. If dx12 does nothing to increase graphical fidelity, I don't think any xb1 fans will be upset. It's just the idea that all this resolution crap can be pushed aside that gets people happy.
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I don't remember all this fuss when ps3 was 200$ more expensive with lower quality multiplats ... but now every single pixel matters.

stuna14113d ago

So if he responded why not answer the question!? The fact that some of you all like being strung along is baffling! What's even more baffling is this occurs quite frequently, and let just say the majority of time the results are less than desirable.

4Sh0w4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

Kingthrash keep shaking your head, but there's a clear difference between saying res doesn't matter in regards to being the only factor in next gen gaming. How many times do you have to be told other factors like textures, art style, poly count, rendering tech, and game engine are just as important or more than resolution for visuals, then ultimately GAMEPLAY IS KING= Resolution is not ALL that matters, which is why Iam more than happy with my X1 than getting ps4, cause I like to PLAY the games I like more than counting pixels.

All that said of course I am glad X1 is rapidly improving and will continue to improve as far as software, SDK, and dev tools are concerned because micro is a software company it is to be expected. Are you actually trying to say because res isn't the most important thing to xbox fans that we shouldn't be happy for improvements? Why does xbox fans enthusiasm for improvements seem as if it scares you and the ps hive mind? Really other than a very few extreme xbox fans who follow mistermediax, I dont see anyone claiming "DX12 is going to make X1 capable of high end pc graphics".

lol Again like a typical biased ps fan you just sound mad that micro is able to improve their console.

Wizard_King4113d ago

"Waffles11 + 5h ago
The ability to make software improvements can only happen on the Xbox one, so differences in hardware are a non factor. Obviously, this will be the turning point."

So only MS can make software improvements? That's news to me buddy, when did Sony loose the ability to manipulate code? Was it in the ps4's last update?

smh

Gazondaily4113d ago

What I dont get is why stuna has 50 agrees when Spencer just said 'stay tuned'?!!

Whats with the insecurity? Surely having the more powerful console would mean that you wouldn't be too worried right?

I do wonder what GDC will hold. MS relying on DX12 does make a lot of sense and software is their strength after all so it isnt some over the top 'secret sauce' wishful thinking many on here are trying to convince others it is. I just wonder what kind of improvement it will bring to the table.

ZombieDust4112d ago

@kingthrash I love people that make comments like yours. Its not that xbox fans think it suddenly matters and that it didnt before. It is just one of those things that makes it that much better, you know, an added bonus to what actually matters... gameplay.

Im a bit older now so I prefer reason and hate fanboy, childish arguments. I'm just here to try and sort things out here.

SilentNegotiator4112d ago (Edited 4112d ago )

"nobody ever said that resolution doesn't matter"

Clearly you haven't actually been READING the comment sections of any article that might remind us that an Xbox One game might not be 1080p or otherwise not as high res as a Ps4 version...there's ALWAYS dozens of people claiming EXACTLY that: "resolution doesn't matter" with those exact words.

And of course, it's so often the same people that made a massive deal about Ps3/360 multiplats that were 6XXp/7XXp.

BISHOP-BRASIL4112d ago

Hey Waffles11! I found the little "/s" tag you missed on your comment, it was in Lost & Found with the humor of people disagreeing with you.

Back on topic... Last gen it was all about resolution or other minor graphic differences (lesser than currently and going both sides every now and then mind you). PS4 comes out kicking and it don't matter anymore. Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer isn't 1080p? It matters again! Reality kicks back in as every multiplat game on XB1 and the big taunted "exclusive" Titanfall are not 1080p it doesn't matter one more time. DX12 comes and here we go... I guess you guys got the picture, those guys swing more than a couple from Hollywood! They don't even care about graphics, they just want bragging rights, so let's stop feeding this vicious circle, can we?

Oh_Yeah4112d ago

It takes HARDWARE to up resolution. No magical software is going to make games run at higher resolution.

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Bigpappy4113d ago

GDC only a week away. Stay frosty.

StealthPandemic4113d ago

Stay fatty? I though we doing rhymes.

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Alan_Shore4113d ago

If your not down with dx then I got two words for ya!

S#!K IT!

Azzanation4113d ago

Sony ponies 360 vs PS3 days it wasn't just about resolution, the 360 did games better even with the same resolution, it did better effects (look at Gears of War 3). You fanboys act as if it was all about resolution last gen it wasn't that. I played DMC on both 360 and PS3 and the PS3 had massive slow downs compared to the 360 versions. You only act as if it was all about resolution is because its all you have this gen.

If you want 1080 and 60 frames go with a PC with a late GPU, if you want games then both XB1 and PS4 are good consoles.

stuna14113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

Yeah maybe muliplats, but the PS3 exclusives stomped the Xbox exclusives and muliplats. The difference this gen is the PS4 has the superior exclusives as well as the muliplats since day one.

All you have this gen! Did you read that out of a Microsoft PR Statement Handbook???

SlyFamousthe3rd4113d ago

Ever think of becoming a stand-up comedian? Because that really made me laugh.

CernaML4113d ago

*looks at Gears of War 3*
*notices a clear lack of AA*

DMC? Good example I guess. Heres mine: Tomb Raider DE.
Not only is the PS4 capable of running it up to 60fps a lot of the time, but it never dips below 30fps like the X1 version does.

Prime1574112d ago

I bit, troll. Your comment's ambiguous nature of "all ps4 fanboys have" is your opinion.

If you are talking about graphics between the two consoles, it's not just resolution. Ac4 on the ps4 has a better/newer AA while x1 has an older, less effective AA and a lower resolution.

Battlefield 4: "The PS4 had the higher internal resolution, a considerable performance lead in motion, and the addition of extra effects such as horizon-based ambient occlusion entirely missing on Xbox One."

Read more on battlefield 4: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Even the multiplat game you tools cling to in your defense is missing ps4 elements like HBAO. Need for speed might be the same resolution, but it is missing several effects that ps4 has.

Tomb raider had more than just a framerate difference.

The list goes on.

I failed and fed the troll

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Cernunnos4113d ago

A new DirectX will mainly reduce CPU overhead, and not suddenly make the GPU perform 50% better. Basically, they will get better CPU performance, but it will not help much in terms of resolution or GPU limited frame-rate.

stuna14113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

SMH!!! Some people you just can't reason with! Weaker Hardware, will always be weaker! What is so hard to understand about that???? A 1 inch thick rope will be stronger than an 1/2 inch thick rope!

Cernunnos that wasn't directed at you, I agree with your comment.

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system224112d ago

you got all that from stay tuned? freakin fanboys. you know what i took from that? "i can't talk about anything til gdc, but i felt your comment was important enough to respond to" obviously they are going to talk about it. PS - you wanna be a "stuna"... buy a more expensive car.

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bicfitness4113d ago

Direct X12 is the new "secret sauce." Even though Face Off after Face off will continue to show a gulf between the two systems in terms of performance. X1 has a 1.2 TF GPU. Doesn't matter how 'low-level' you go, it can only push so many pixels. Most console APIs are already as close to coding to metal as you can get, and yes they get refined over time. Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 3, for example. But both of those games were 720p, keep in mind. Upping the resolution from 720p to 1080p simply requires a grunt that the X1 GPU will never have. Ever.

My God, the things some desperate fans are clinging to. Its getting absurd, and the Xbox media liaisons are only making the delusions worse with their half-truths and snake oil.

theWB274113d ago

I thought this tweet was about improving the X1 hardware...not putting it on par with the PS4.

You just sound angry.

Immorals4113d ago

My 8800 could push out 1080p 5 years ago.

Then again, I was too busy enjoying the game to count pixels.

zebramocha4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

@immoral then why bring it up if your pc could do 1080p 5 years ago,the first part goes against the second part of the statement.

DoubleM704112d ago

@WB27

Exactly.. They actually sound angry that Microsoft is trying to improve their system. Nothing wrong with that I will expect sony to do the same to make something better for their customers is a win win.

Saigon4113d ago

Dude you posted old news, holding on to too much hope. This was way before it was determine how capable each of the systems were. At the time each dev stated or made these comments it was in regard to the paper specs for each system. Since then the game has literally shifted. Now that the dev kits and the specs are running on the devs development software; today is what matters. Kojima, made a statement a while ago at how powerful the PS4 is compared to the XBO, without literally stating the difference.

http://www.dualshockers.com...

DigitalRaptor4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

hahahahaha.

1) First link. Carmack never performed benchmark tests to prove this.

2) Second link. Kojima is releasing a next-gen game this month where the PS4 version is 1080p/60fps, with exclusive effects for this version, and the Xbone version runs at last gen resolution 720p with no special next-gen effects.

3) Third link. Wait until Watch_Dogs actually comes out, and we'll see for ourselves. in the mean time: http://n4g.com/news/1469656...

Axios24113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

No secret sauce when all these are already native 1080p

Forza
Stryder
NFS
UFC
FIFA
Halo CA
Dying Light
Kinect Sports Rivals
NBA
TombRaider
Rayman
Wolfenstein
Murdered Soul Suspect
Child of Light

and for above 720p but not 1080p:

AC
Ryse
TitanFall
Thief
Watch Dogs

@ press start

Learn to read, especially when you copy paste, lol

Kingthrash3604113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

wheres the 1080p 60fps list?....frames are more important than res no? let see how many games on that list are crossed off.
"secret sauce" needed.
again these things dont matter though...just great games...who needs res? right? who needs frames? who needs the magical "secret sauce?"

Legacy2124113d ago

@kingthrash is that all you sony people like touting. 1080p 60 fps ye ye ye look at us. Cuz last I check thief at 900p 30fps won againsy ps4 1080p 30fps in digital foundry comparison. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo yea:) but of course I expect to see u on every article

Kingthrash3604113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

never said sony..i'm thinking pc....you ms fans are sooo butthurt over sony smh. always forgetting pc, so much so some of you still think tf is a exclusive...smh rest my child there is more to gaming than ps4 vs x1.
so, say if i wanted to compare df win loss ratio between x1 and sony who'd win?...see what i mean bout the butthurtness.
i could care less who "wins" i dont care, i dont.
its just yall been contridicting yourselves worse than the people who are selling the consoles....man again keep me out of this "war" please....

BABY-JEDI4113d ago

I do like magical secret sauce with my chips. Nothing better
; )

press-start4113d ago

and for above 720p but not 1080p:

AC
Ryse
TitanFall
Thief
Watch Dogs

let me fix that for you since you seem to have forgot a couple.

call of duty 720p
battlefield 4 720p
Dead Rising 3 720p
killer instinct 720p
Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeroes 720p

and im sure more in the future i like how you purposely left all the above games that i mentioned of that list of yours.

XabiDaChosenOne4113d ago

Your list screams desperation, Rayman? Really?

gameslayer24114113d ago

My only question if DX12 will be implemented into the X1 won't they need to do an overhaul of the system? I'm not sure how that would work...I mean...would they need to send back old consoles or what? I'm not saying anything bad or negative but if you put dx12 in future produced consoles where does that leave the previous owners? and if you had this trump care or some version of dx12 already on my xbox why didn't you show it and utilize it at the very beginning? That just doesn't make sense to me? I mean my One and 4 are sitting happily next to each other with remarkably similar capabilities yet my 4 has slightly better performance? Why would you risk it all and release early if you weren't ready? If you had this ready or had waited you could've one upped your game but you had to stay ahead of the competition? or what? I don't know...i'm just rambling....but can anybody (within reason) give me an honest answer? No fanboy nonsense?

Jumper094113d ago

Forza (looks awful 2d people and lastgen lighting anyone?

Stryder (its a Arcade game lol)

NFS (has missing effects)

UFC (not out yet)

FIFA (Sports game, nothing demanding)

Halo CA (huh? There is no halo out for xbone)

Dying Light (only ps4 version is confirmed to be 1080p)

Kinect Sports Rivals (lol)

NBA (sports game)

TombRaider (drops to 900p, worse performance, less effects)

Rayman (its a 2d game lol, even lastgen consoles can hadle it at 1080p)

Wolfenstein (ID Tech5, nothing mindblowing)

Murdered Soul Suspect (Nt out yet)

Child of Light (kinect garbage)

and for above 720p but not 1080p:

AC (looks worse)
Ryse (look ok)
TitanFall (792p lol)
Thief (ugh)
Watch Dogs (not out)
CoD
Battlefield

Angeljuice4113d ago

@Gameslayer

It depends. Direct X version upgrades only ever used to be a software update (until DX10 IIRC where it became locked to hardware).

Perhaps Microsoft implemented some of the required hardware in the X1 before the code was finalised. Its not likely to be such a big improvement that it was worthy of holding back the system launch.

press-start4105d ago

yes but you still left out the 720p games on purpose and titanfall is not 900p just accept you bought a console that struggles to get last gen ports to run at 1080p,and now DX12 is meant to save the xbone lool you xbots keep dreaming

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Software_Lover4113d ago

They are just toys my friend. Just toys. Its not that serious

candy_mafia4113d ago

I'm with you, I can't believe all these stupid lists people be making lol

It's almost as if some people have forgotten games are meant to be fun??

We have a vast selection of Michael Pachters, developers, hardware engineers, PR heads and shareholders commenting here.

Jus for making my day 'bubz up 4 u' lulz

#spareme

BX814113d ago

@ bitchfitness you mad bro?

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pyramidshead4113d ago

DX12 doesn't solve weak hardware.

Tedakin4113d ago

But it makes weaker hardware work better.

DemonChicken4113d ago

explains for the buff in size of the x1 for heat dissipation

pyramidshead4113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

Didn't say it wouldn't help, but doesn't solve the source of the problem is my point.

hello124113d ago

Well it can't be if the GPU is using all the new features coming with directx12

jmc88884113d ago (Edited 4113d ago )

It did make weaker hardware in a windows environment work better.

But the results were not that great.

Also Xbox One isn't in a full fledged windows environment, so the gains will be far less.

Also if you look at what games running with Mantle actually display you'll notice a visual degradation. In other words, if you use Mantle, the visual quality seems to be like a notch lower.

Now this isn't to say DX12 will degrade the visual quality on Xbox One, but what it should showcase, is that without that visual degradation, the gains Mantle made would be even less.

So take the relatively poor gains of mantle was boosted by the visual degradation AND it's more efficient use of the CPU.

Take the visual degradation out and the gains are less. Take out the full fledged windows environment and it's gains are even less.

Apply what's left into the Xbox One and while of course positive, is nothing groundbreaking.

Then when you realize tiled resources is a crutch, can introduce it's own problems (search youtube for 'RAGE streaming textures bug'), and isn't free (itself sucks up resources) you realize this isn't an ideal situation. Especially that it needs this at the BEGINNING of the generation, not the end.

Raytracing is an expensive feature, while it's nice to add features, it comes at a cost. If developers use this feature, they will need to cut other graphical features to account for it. If developers try to add it all together in a game, then resolution and framerate will be lower then before.

DX 12 is the new version of 11.X. Microsoft just decided they needed some new PR BS. So rather then say it's a new version of 11.X, they called it 12 and sent out the PR releases to hype their sleight of hand.

You don't make a brand new thing up called 11.X, then ditch that and say it's now 12. That's completely dishonest. They made up a new standard and classification, then ditched it when a new update came and called it DirectX 12.

It's all about finding another point to sell the Xbox One on, and Microsoft doesn't care how shady it looks.

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Fireseed4113d ago

Unless the software redefines what exactly "weak hardware" is. Back in the day it was all about getting the most memory, perhaps with DX12 that pardigm will shift to having the fastest memory with improved resource tiling. No one can say for certain other than wait till GDC.

classic194113d ago

lol well put bro, besides API is where it will be at, hints to amd om that one.

Fireseed4113d ago

You have no idea what you're talking about do you? Direct X IS an API.

Back-to-Back4113d ago

This is the truth. Most console owners have zero technical knowledge on hardware, which is why many of them dont have gaming pcs.

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Clown_Syndr0me4113d ago

Erm cool....Makes no difference to me I enjoy playing games despite specs/graphics etc.
Hence why I still play PS2 occasionally.

Immorals4113d ago

Don't pay attention to the trolls.

I can't see them enjoying any game without counting pixels with a magnifying glass..

Clown_Syndr0me4113d ago

I'm quite new to this site, but it seems the majority of the users prefer to bitch than play games. They need to stop pulling each others hair and relax!

Immorals4113d ago

Yeah I agree. It's like being in a kids playground 'my dad could beat your dad up'.

zebramocha4113d ago

@clown it's a gaming forum no one could do both at the same time.

christocolus4113d ago

Gdc and E3 will be great this year...

2cents4113d ago

Everything seems to be pointing to that conclusion.

It's going to be really exciting to see both Playstation and Xbox share their visions, games, tech talk and maybe some big accessory reveal (AR, VR, 3D) at E3. I'm buzzing for it.

I hope that both parties focus on themselves now, with their own identities and that gaming journalism takes a break from doom and gloom.
we all know what the PS4 and Xbox One are, we know their differences. It's time to move on and enjoy this new generation.

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb11h ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek12h ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack9h ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor7h ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning776h ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

OtterX18h ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer199216h ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX16h ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer199216h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted15h ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast15h ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica14h ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand12513h ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer199213h ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts13h ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

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Lightning7714h ago(Edited 14h ago)

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot0716h ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen15h ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica14h ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer8815h ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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Phil Spencer 'Very Excited' About Xbox Handheld Plans For 2025

With ASUS seemingly teasing an Xbox handheld last week, there's been a lot of talk about the device in the days ever since, and Xbox boss Phil Spencer has also teased something to do with handhelds happening in 2025

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neutralgamer199266d ago

I really hope this isn't a windows based device even though coming from MS that's highly unlikely. SteamDeck is much much easier to use and offers a much better user experience than any other handheld device because it's all based on steam app. The Xbox handheld should be based on that because a Windows device with a 7-8 inch screen makes it's difficult to navigate

darthv7266d ago

Coming from Asus... its going to be an Xbox branded ROG Ally.

neutralgamer199266d ago

That's fine but hopefully it will be a Xbox app based instead of windows

VenomUK66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

When the casual market learn that there’s going to be an Xbox branded Asus handheld they will cancel their Nintendo Switch 2 preorders and get the Asus. No it won’t have exclusive games like Super Mario or Zelda or Metroid or Pilot Wings or Mario Kart or Animal Crossing or Donkey Kong or Pokémon or Super Smash Bros - but who cares as it will have access to the entire library of the Steam Store running on Windows. It will also have access to Game Pass with all the modern day classics like Avowed, Hellblade II and Grounded and Pentiment.

I think we all have to acknowledge that after all the criticism of Switch 2 on ResetEra it’s evidence that it will fail to sell and the Asus will outsell it. Dreamcast pushed Sega out of hardware, we all have to accept that the perfect storm of Switch 2 pricing, an Xbox-branded Asus and Phil Spencer and Aaron Greenberg’s persuasive promotion will likely kill off Switch 2 within a month. AND YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT.

FinalFantasyFanatic66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

@VenomUK,
I don't think that even has a remote chance of happening, Nintendo has so much brand loyalty, even with the backlash on their not so great pricing, I still think it's going to sell, Xbox doesn't have as much brand loyalty. Plus, if it's just Xbox branded ROG Ally or something similar, why not just choose a ROG ally or Steam Deck? They can both do everything that an Xbox branded handheld can. If Xbox is going to compete in the world of windows based handhelds, it has so much competition, it's going to struggle.

You're way too optimistic about the Xbox handheld and the demise of the Switch 2, I'm going to predict the opposite and say the Switch 2 will demolish the Xbox handheld in terms of sales/popularity.

S2Killinit66d ago

@VenomUK
Not sure if sarcasm or satire.

VenomUK65d ago

@S2Killinit Satire. I’m not going to hate on people for being excited for a new console. But what is happening in the Xbox community is something wicked, content creators are hyping up the Asus to their audience about how great this thing is, and how it will be more powerful than the Switch 2 and the Steam Store outweighs any advantage the Switch 2 has with its library of games. I don’t believe they believe it but they are grifting. By all means look forward to it but don’t sell it as a Switch 2 PS5 killer.

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PanicMechanic66d ago

Steam Os is amazing. By far the best. Can’t imagine MS having an OS that can top it (CERTAINLY not windows)

crazyCoconuts66d ago

Well they're gonna try. They've already stated they've been working on it.

FinalFantasyFanatic66d ago

Windows as is, isn't a great experience for a handheld, they really need to make a dedicated handheld OS, unfortunately they've always been hellbent on making a single product for both PC/touch screen use.

I really can't imagine them making something that stands up to Steam OS, it just works so well.

RaidenBlack65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

This is not their in-house made Xbox handheld for next-gen, which is slated for release in 2027 alongside with the next Xbox console, which might run a version of their usual Xbox-ified OS optimized for the handheld.
This is just a brand collab to produce an Xbox branded updated Asus RoG Ally (Project Kennan), which as usual ships with Windows. Think of it as the 5th main competitor in handheld PC market, after Deck, Legion Go, Ally and MSi Claw (I know others exist, but these are the popular ones).
https://wccftech.com/xbox-h...
And RoG Ally didn't get an update this year like the Legion Go, so this Xbox-Asus one might be that?
Anyways, even with 2025 chip upgrade, the Legion Go underperforms compared to 2023 Ally and 2024 Ally X.

crazyCoconuts66d ago

It can't be anything but Windows if it has the Xbox brand on it. Outside of the politics (which would be a showstopper), SteamOS/Linux can't run GamePass natively due to the crazy protections implemented by the Windows Store.

neutralgamer199266d ago

I am not asking the Xbox handheld to run steam, I just wanted a dedicated Xbox app on the handheld that handles everything from playing games, downloading games, gamepass and most importantly all updates are done from that app. Just a better overall user experience

Having to download multiple different things on a Windows based device becomes really a chore in a smaller screen.

crazyCoconuts66d ago

Having the windows handheld auto launch the existing Xbox Windows app will accomplish everything you mentioned, and I'm sure that's what this will be.
Fact is that MS will need to add a lot into that app to incorporate all the system level controls Steam incorporated into their handheld UI.

OmegaSoldati66d ago

Steam Deck for the win! Switch too.

Profchaos66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

It'll be windows all leaks indicate this is a windows based device with a Xbox skin it will integrate other storefronts because at its core it's windows.

@venom there's is no chance that parents will be buying their kids a rog ally setting up steam and other storefronts over a Nintendo switch 2 at Christmas.

That's a mass amount of hopium there.

Portable PC's in total have barely cracked six million sold the switch 2 will continue to dominate the casual crowd all known about it and news of a switch successor has already started spreading in mainstream media

neutralgamer199265d ago

I think switch 2 will do well but dominate I think we need to wait and see. The prices of the console and games is much more than switch so don't expect parents in this inflation time to spend $600 on 2 games and a console. Since it's Nintendo it should sell but I think we are underpaying the importance of the inflated market

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anast66d ago

Every inch of this things is going to be a subservice.

Aloymetal66d ago

And an even bigger flop in the making, it's like they're just throwing crap at the wall and see what sticks or rather find another ''clever'' way to keep squeezing more money from the already miniscule and gullible fanbase. Smfh.

Reaper22_65d ago

Squeezing money. Isn't that what sony is doing with tbe ps5pro. And what about all those remakes and locking some ps4 games to a subscription.

ABizzel165d ago

At first I thought this was a huge mistake on MS part. But after thinking about this more and more, while I still don’t think it’s going to do anything beyond 10 - 20 million in sales, I think that’s exactly what MS and ASUS are expecting and both are okay with.

I assume this is more of Asus saying to MS, look we have ten/twenty million of these handheld PCs already in production and we’ve only been able to sell a couple millions, partner with us and let’s brand them as Xbox handhelds ASUS will do all the heavy lifting so we don’t take a loss on all these, and all MS has to do is market the platform and put your logo, the new Xbox OS/app you’ve been working on, and together we’ll helps each other out and push more GamePass subscriptions.

That make complete logical sense as to why this came about, because otherwise….. So technically it would be a win:win for both companies, or a win for MS and a reduction of loss of ASUS, even if they only sell 10m - 20m units.

As for the handheld itself honestly, it should be solid and most likely based on the Rog Ally 7, but hopefully with the Rog Ally X case as that has a much better port and I/O layout. Plus if the Xbox OS is wayyyyyyy lighter than Windows then it should be a a good piece of tech getting more performance than the Ally 7 Windows version for around $499.

But that’s where the next problem comes into play…..Price. It’s Switch 2 all over again. The slight different is outside of the potential of DLSS, this should be a slightly more powerful handheld, especially if they create their own dock, but that dock will likely be sold separately meaning now we’re looking at $550 or more, for what will essentially be a docked Xbox Series S and a slightly more powerful SteamDeck / Switch 2 in handheld mode.

peppeaccardo66d ago

The Irrelevant-Held will be able to connect to the XFLOP Series X

anast66d ago

ha! It might last longer than the Stadia.

Profchaos65d ago

Basically what windows os turning into now every few weeks logging on I'm greeted with a hey how about some office 365 or your gamepass lapsed how about renewing and decline is in little blue writing while subscribe is a huge button

anast65d ago

This and I also get a pop up to subscribe to Xbox GamePass.

PanicMechanic66d ago

So smart of you caveman Phil sphincter. Did you get the memo on what Nintendo is releasing this year?

Kyizen66d ago

I dont trust Microsoft to build an OS for this looking at the Windows phone so I think this will be just Windows with a Steam like Big Picture mode locked in the UI to launch games.

Rockstar66d ago

This is good advice from Reaper here. I trust your advice and you've got my word...I wont buy it.

Thanks Reaper!

YourMommySpoils66d ago

Then don't complain about facts.

PanicMechanic65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

So in other words, it’s just another ROG Ally. I think MS has a winner🤣🤣

FinalFantasyFanatic66d ago

I remember when my sister bought a Windows phone, that thing was missing so many basic features, she didn't even own the phone for 3 months before getting frustrated and swapping it out.

Profchaos65d ago

I'll be honest I had a older relative that loved the windows phone cause it had a huge dial, contacts and camera button that was all it got used for.

Oh and it was bright green so easy to find

Moral of the story one person's trash is another's treasure

Reaper22_65d ago

Windows phones weren't the best but I also remember sonys phones didn't fare too well either. As a matter of fact they're newest ones aren't doing so great either. Not even in Japan. That says alot.

Profchaos65d ago

@reaper22 honestly Shane about the Sony phones to I brought the Xperia 3 when they announced remote play for it and it was one of the best ones I have had the battery lasted a few days the camera was some obscene 50mp but the physical design lagged behind Samsung and I think that was a huge reason it failed

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Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reassures Xbox Gamers Their Gaming Library Isn't Going Anywhere

Xbox's CEO Phil Spencer assures that, even though they are expanding to other platforms, Xbox gamer's libraries aren't going anywhere.

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jznrpg115d ago

Phil, the words of a guy who only speaks the truth.

If I was an Xbox owner I wouldn’t feel comfortable with what he just said

crazyCoconuts115d ago

Reading his quote sounds like word salad. I'm not sure he said anything really.

darthv72115d ago

I'd rather him say more of our library will be made available now. It sucks to have so many 360 era games still stuck in limbo, especially Activision ones now that they are buddy buddy.

VenomUK115d ago (Edited 115d ago )

Sarah Bond had committed to backwards compatibility, so interpreting Phil Spencer’s quote, old Xbox games will always be playable with a PS3 on PSN like cloud solution, and on new hardware if a new Xbox console is ever released.

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Scissorman115d ago (Edited 115d ago )

why does this even need to be reassured? it really goes to show you how nervous there fanbase is.

Eonjay115d ago

Right. I was thinking the same thing. This shouldn't be some sort of 'benefit' for Xbox gamers as MS goes to Sony and Nintendo... This should just be implied. No matter where the games go in the future should have any impact on the purchased games libraries of current Xbox consumers.

pwnmaster3000115d ago

Yup no matter how much they say they don’t care, the fanbase care lol

Profchaos115d ago (Edited 115d ago )

What's left of them one the last 12 months I've seen Xbox consoles flooding second hand marketplaces and going for half of their RRP

In addition this interview the whole panel was clearly not believing the viewpoint but not wanting to offend their guest

LabRat114d ago

When (or "if") Xbox goes out of hardware those who don't play on Cloud or prefer hardware...where will they play their library?

PhillyDonJawn114d ago

Not the question. If you already gave the hardware and games. Why would it disappear?

Chocoburger115d ago

Ah yes, Phillip, the pinnacle of honesty, and he never changes his mind. We can all take his word for it without hesitation. 🤥

Profchaos115d ago

He did but in the follow up sentence he talked about charging pricing because they are a business so who knows maybe the next gen box has a fee to use their emulator service I imagine wine ports to a PC architecture

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