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Gearbox turned down offer to develop "Call of Duty"-Sequel

Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford says he was offered to develop an entry in the "Call of Duty" series but declined the offer because he felt it would not be a "significant challenge".

Pitchford says (translated from the german text): "I don’t think there’s anything to accomplish there. I think if I was only in it for the money I would’ve done that.[...] I think to do “Call of Duty” right you need to do what needs to be done and there are a lot of people who can do that. For us it wouldn’t add to our credibility, it wouldn’t move us forward. There would be no significant challenge that would be gratifying to overcome"

Pitchford also attributes the immense success of the "Call of Duty" franchise to its reliability. Because every new installement is a guaranteed hit in an often unforseeable marlet the series gets unrivaled support from retailers. "It's becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, to a degree", says Pitchford.

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BillySpandex4162d ago

The irony is that Call of Duty under Gearbox would have actually pushed the franchise back to its roots. Amazing military-based Stories and gameplay over twitchgaming for toddlers.

FarCryLover1824161d ago

Do you really think that Activision would allow that / publish that nowadays? No, they wouldn't. Which is sad.

HammadTheBeast4161d ago (Edited 4161d ago )

Exactly. Gearbox knew that Activision would NEVER let them make huge changes, which is why they knew the morale would be low.+1 for Gearbox for having self respect.

Blank4161d ago

Yeah activision would definetly not let gearbox innovate or take chances the proof on that is activisions own dev teams they just rehash it and release it although ill cut treyarch some slack but this article is bout gearbox and the fact they have lots of dignity and self respect I hope they continue to see good success and profits also I laughed at the reason why gearbox shut down the offer its really good an the dot a really good reason because ANY dev team can do call of duty all they need to do is the copy and paste, insert new guns, use 360 as lead, make maps, cut out maps for later dlc, and let activision publish and advertise it

snipes1014161d ago

I dont know. If acti was willing to reach out to someone like gearbox, chances are they werent doing it to get the same result they could likely get for cheap using one of their in house devs. They probably also knew that there was no way they were gonna be able to pull in a big dev from the outside and expect them to bow down to their every whim.

ATi_Elite4161d ago

Good for Gearbox. B-Lands 2 is a great game and COD is just so repetitive it's crazy!

I have no interest to play a game that is talked about by racist, homophobic snot nose 7 year old "Internet Only Gangsters" and Grandmas.

I think Gearbox would of just got lazy and lost all creativity by making a COD but instead we have B-Lands 3 to look forward to.

Ascerendant4162d ago (Edited 4162d ago )

Not sure if I'd consider the gameplay of "Brothers in Arms" or "Borderlands" far ahead of "CoD". I'd agree though that it would be great if Activision would let a studio like Gearbox reinvent "Call of Duty" as they see fit. But as it seems, if you want to do it, you have to go by the formula.

EddieNX 4161d ago

The gameplay in Borderlands is far ahead of CoD...

Borderlands 2 is on a different level of quality to any CoD game.

Ascerendant4161d ago

You really think so? The core gameplay of the early BiA-Games was: "Set guys to suppres, flank, kill" - in endless repetition. Before "Hell's Highway" the storytelling was pathetic war-hero-patriotism. I agree the third one was good, but not better than CoD. "Call of Duty" has gotten atrociously stale but the core gameplay is extremely refined, especially on consoles. Movement, aiming, reaction times etc - this is all extremely well done.

Now "Borderlands 2" - I love the game to death and I've spent more than 70hrs playing it so far. But what's great about "Borderlands 2" is the perfect "carrot on a stick" balance of loot & experience gain combined with an original and fun world. The shooter-mechanics are extremely simplified. So much so that my girlfriend was able to master it in a day (which is great cause now we can play together). "Call of Duty" is way ahead in terms of refined gameplay, IMO. It's just that they take this great core-mechanic and just rehash it over and over and over again.

solid_warlord4160d ago

Call of Duty 20-30 million per game since 2007..
Border land 1-4million per game..

Best selling point of COD Fast paced gameplay at 60fps...far superier feeling than most shooter.

I know Sales doesnt mean everything most of the time but if u sell 20 plus million every bloody year...that means "sale" tell you its one bad ass game that people want.

Everyone hates COD and i am guilty as charged for that, yet most of us still buy it cause no other game provides fast action that doesnt last 30min a game...the game is addictive pure and simple.

Sure the most biggest haters will say its for kids even though it has an 18 plus rated stamped on it. Porn is also 18 plus rated yet most kids watch it in a daily basis but u know wat...porn is still more popular amongs kids than COD could ever hope to be.

Go ahead, press the disagree button...it will prove how many people hate on COD yet they still go buy it. I also like to forcast a prediction. COD will be best selling game 2013 and BO2 DLC will be the best selling DLC on consoles. BO2 will also be the most played game on XBOX Live and PSN. I would also like to predict that this will be disagreed manytimes and the most of the people who press disagree will go and play on COD afterwards and then come back to hate on it on the intenet. If this is true then i am a psychic.

HammadTheBeast4161d ago

Both games are much better than CoD.

NeverEnding19894161d ago

Major kudos to Gearbox. I'm on the fence about getting Borderlands 2, but this article has given me a huge amount of respect for the devs and may have just convinced me.

Disappear Call of Duty. Forever

EddieNX 4161d ago

Borderlands 2 is incredible and the sort of game that Highlights the Distinc lack of quality missing from CoD.

CoD is OK I guess. But it's too dated now , too repetative. Even NSMBU feels a million times fresher than Blops 2.

Kalowest4161d ago

"I'm on the fence about getting Borderlands 2"
WTF, Gearbox is one of this gens best studios, go pick up Borderlands 2.

Genuine-User4161d ago

In my opinion, I find them to be an okay-ish Studio.
Their next game Alien Colonial Marines looks/plays rather average at best.

Riderz13374161d ago

Good. Don't ruin your reputation with that POS.

1nsomniac4161d ago

Easy decision IMO. Although I'm not a COD fan, It's big shoes to fill & gearbox just arnt good enough & they themselves know that & would inevitably have a huge backlash to deal with.

IMO & i've been a hardcore gamer for 25 years, I have absolutely no idea where Gearbox has actually got there high credibility from. The only half decent game they've released was HL Blue-shift & possibly Boderlands which are again IMO both poor quality.

Blastoise4161d ago

Didn't they make Duke Nukem Forever? lol

People are just hating on Call of duty again, and trying to make out like Borderlands is better than it actually is.

1nsomniac4161d ago

Only thing Gearbox are good at is spinning publicity favourable in their direction...

Wish I was that good at covering up bullshit!

FarCryLover1824161d ago

They only finished Duke Nukem Forever. They did it because Randy is friends with many people from 3D Realms, and he used to work there long ago.

They finished the game as more of a favor to them and to Take-Two. I am sure they were self aware that the game wasn't the best, but that's not why they finished up the loose ends.

Kalowest4161d ago

"It's big shoes to fill & gearbox just arnt good enough & they themselves know that & would inevitably have a huge backlash to deal with."

Gearbox is more creative/talented than the COD devs.
Gearbox working on COD is a step-backwards, and they're trying to move ahead.

1nsomniac4161d ago

OK, so in your opinion, name a single thing they have ever done in their entire development history that has been 'creative/talented'??

vickers5004161d ago

@1nsomniac

Borderlands 1
Borderlands 2

I'm not sure whether or not Gearbox created the shoot-and-loot rpg/fps, but they definitely revived it and made it amazing. How many fps/rpgs with randomly generated loot games can you name, other than BL1/BL2? I'm betting none, unless you can find some mediocre indie game somewhere on the internet that has poorly replicated it.

It may not be 100% unique and original, but it sure as hell is creative with it's great art design and game mechanics that don't exist in any other shooter. Oh yeah, and it has a hilarious story, something that only comes along once in a great while for video games.

Your opinion is terrible if you honestly think Borderlands 1/2 are "poor quality". I can understand not liking them, I don't like a lot of popular games that many people swoon over, but I can still recognize their quality/greatness. You fail to recognize Borderlands greatness. It's a shame, you're missing out on an amazing game. Give it a fair chance (play it for more than 2 hours), try it again, and you will finally get why so many people love the franchise.

BlaqMagiq244161d ago

Please elaborate on how Borderlands is poor quality.

Blank4161d ago

I respect your opinion and experience which formed your criticism about gearbox I too have been gaming for many years so I see what your saying its true at first I didnt see gearbox as top tier but in this game generation after borderlands 1 I feel they got a new mindset that after aliens colonial marines we will see better quality things from them im sure they are planning a new brothers in arms game im sure with that game they will assure and showcase there new mindset randy is loving the spike of trust from gamers borderlands garnered for them he wont let it go to waste keep in mind randy pitchford is an old school gamer I mean he was one of the original devs for duke nukem

Ascerendant4161d ago

That is bullshit. Right now Treyarch is running the CoD-Show. Makers of such hits as "Kelly Slaters Pro Surfer" and the "Quantum of Solace" game. If they can take over for Infinitey Ward without missing a beat, Gearbox could at the very least do the same.

Now could Gearbox have made "CoD 4: Modern Warfare" before there was a "CoD4": I agree, they probably wouldn't have. They're still one hell of a studio though.

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Cheat Provider To Pay Call Of Duty Creator Activision Nearly $15M In Damages

Cheat software provider EngineOwning will pay Call of Duty creator Activision nearly $15 million in damages and legal fees.

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Jin_Sakai4d ago

Cheat providers for competitive games should be illegal.

Rynxie4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

This is what developers and manufacturers should do. I know going after cheat devices/makers is a cat and mouse game, and cost money. However, they can get that money back by sueing these manufacturers of cheat devices. Take a page from Nintendo's playbook.

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Elda15d ago

Most folks that have a Gamepass subscription will not spend the $70, they will use Gamepass instead to play COD. MS will most likely make their money from some solely PC players & some solely PS5 owners. Even some PC players may opt to use Gamepass instead of spending $70. I would think MS would want to make every dime they could from retail sales. As long as they put new releases of COD day one on Gamepass, MS will lose out on some sales of COD.

porkChop15d ago

COD makes truck loads of money on microtransactions. That's likely the play. Get more people in the door through Game Pass and sell more microtransactions. Have a steady stream of events to keep people interested so they keep their sub, and then just the sub alone would double the revenue from that player each year.

Elda15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Buying the game at $70 a pop including the deluxe versions is much better than people subs for a dollar to $15 a month. Die hard fans that usually buy the game also buy into the transactions. Again putting any new COD day one on Gamepass is definitely a sure loss of making some retail money for every copy of COD. With the last iteration of COD being bad most likely people are going to sub to Gamepass to play COD basically saving themselves $70, that is a loss of retail sales.

Kakashi Hatake15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Most that don't have Gamepass will just buy the game and he done with it. People that do will just result in a retail sale being lost. Some will buy the subscription for the month then be done. This is lose lose. Casuals aren't going to pay almost 300 dollars a year for COD.

ApocalypseShadow15d ago

The reality is that Microsoft already knows the answer as stated by them in their documents. PlayStation gamers have built up an ecosystem of games and they aren't migrating over and dropping what they have to buy an Xbox to play one game in a service you have to pay monthly for. Cheaper to just buy the game. And, I'd bet many casual COD players don't know or care about the acquisition.

Which is why Jim Ryan pushed to make sure that that one game continues to be sold as usual on Sony's platform to keep the status quo. Every other IP owned by Activision are worthless. And Activision has shown they don't care about other IP like Tony Hawk by cancelling them.

Sales WILL be lost on Xbox. That's for certain. Microsoft can only hope that Xbox gamers continue to buy up those micro transactions to make up for those lost sales. Only positive for Microsoft is that they get to dip into PlayStation game sales that we all know from history and NPD, that Sony's console sells more games. But increase subs from Sony fans for game pass? Not happening in any way that matters.

Sony, on the other hand, can have their cake and eat it too. They get COD and they can continue dropping more content for their fastest selling GaaS game which is Hell Divers 2. As the game passes 12 million sales and doesn't beat you over the head with micro transactions, Sony has a win win situation and can support the game getting more content to keep players engaged.

As a side note, COD is probably going to turn into some version of Sea of Fortnite Duty. Games as a service sitting in game pass being milked dry with micro transactions and constant updates making you feel you're playing an unfinished game that keeps going and going with no soul.

Tedakin15d ago

I'm not sure why everyone is acting like COD is a surprise. That was always the plan. They said in court during the FTC case they were doing this. They have said repeatedly and recently all first party games are going to Gamepass.

badboyz0914d ago

gamepass like PS Plus are rental services. Games like COD you buy not rent. So in my case unless I plan on keeping gamepass for 2yrs minimum than the benefit of adding cod is pointless.

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Throwing bananas at the monkeys' cage.