Guerilla Games’ Michiel van der Leeuw has revealed a few more additional details, such as the controls, multiplayer and graphics aspects, in regards to Killzone HD.
Sony is in the middle of an FPS crisis, but bringing back two much-loved PlayStation shooters could easily be the solution.
We have alot of rpg's but only cod for a AAA first person shooter unless you toss in xdefient but that is still fixing 2yr old beta issues.
We need more AAA fps games then rpg's
Yes we need some new FPS experiences.. COD is just not engaging enough. We want a Killzone back to the roots, not a Shadow Fall again..
Agree on preferring RPGs though at this exact moment, it would be great to see more horror games. Another reason why Japan Studio closing is just tragic. Loved Siren.
Fuck jim ryan japan studio did so much and helped alot with ports/localization
If they were around bloodborn would be possible like how they helped with demon souls ps4 finial fantasy port.
Horror games would be nice but the jim ryan axe job helped alot in killing playstation dev numbers/freedom and increased regulation with the new censorship crap.
If Sony is bringing back a old shooter I would prefer Warhawk or better yet Starhawk
No thanks. Resistance and killzone were my all time favorite fps games. I completely dominated those games. I met good people, had a ton of fun and have a lot of fond memories. I don't want them to bring back these games, unless they tackle the cheating epidemic. I know I will absolutely hate these games, if I was to play them now, with all the effing cheating going on in fps games.
Bro the market is oversaturated with quality RPGs AND bloated shitty RPGs already.
I honestly don't think we'll be seeing these anytime soon, if ever. Insomniac is officially on Marvel duty since it seems that all they're working on based off the leaks, and Horizon is more of what the casuals want these days. And I now I'll get a bunch of disagrees, but keep in mind that Resistance last got a game on the PS3 (2011) and Killzone was a launch title for the PS4 (2013). 10 years is a long time to make a game, if had any interest they would've done it by now, add InFamous to that list.
Your right except the dates killzone mercenary was on ps vita 2013 same with resistance burning skies back in 2012
Both of those games are either made by smaller B team or completely different developer.
Killzone Mercenary developed by Guerilla Cambridge which is now defunct.
Resistamce Burning Skies wasn't made by Insomniac but by Nihilistic Software also defunct after the failure of CoD Black Ops Declassified.
@good i know i never said they were
I mentioned them as they were the last games under that ip well killzone was last on ps4 but still even though they are different devs they led to the lose of the ip.
I highly doubt they made up for there budget cost even killzone on ps4 had low sales for such a large ip at the time.
Resistance 3 turned me off to the series but I’d love a reboot. KillZone I think can stay dead. Give me a new Resistance like 1or 2 and I’ll be happy.
Except Resistance 1 and 3 were far more similar, 2 was the outlier. 3 was a great return to form after 2 changed so many things from the first game.
I'll keep saying it, have Bungie make a new resistance game, a match made in heaven. Although I imagine Bungie would be too proud to take over an existing IP.
I honestly never cared or liked killzone. Huge resistance fan though. I remember so many nights playing melee only on USS Lexington, and I like the alt history vibe.
Can't they at least make their first party stuff from the ps3 era available on modern hardware ? So many good games left to rot
Like a Remaster with increased framerate and resolution. Sure why not. They could even charge $30 and I think people would still be fine. Do like a PS3 Remaster series.
I want this so bad. Id just be happy to be able to play the old ones on PS5. (PS Now not available in my country)
I’d settle for a new AAA campaign driven FPS with some sci fi elements in a new IP. Sonys first party stuff is good, but too many 3rd person open world adventure games with upgrading equipment and skill trees (Tsushima, Horizon, Spider-Man). Sadly hardly anyone is making AAA single player FPS anymore, even Doom and Wolfenstein seem to be dormant
I would love Resistance and Killzone but I also want them to bring back Wild Arms another good franchise under their belt. Even a new Sly Cooper game Jak and Daxter
Tell me a franchise Sony has brought back that did better than previous iterations? and no God of War wasn't gone for a significant amount of time before it was rebooted. The fact is both those franchises didn't have the IT factor and they tried everything. Another Killzone or Resistance isn't what Sony needs right now unless your goal is to try and get Sony to make more mistakes. Which knowing IGN is probably their angle. Sony need brand new fresh IP's
I don't get ms and Sony with so much dormant franchises, Nintendo on the other hand always makes new games for their best franchises, how many Mario's, Zelda's, Pokemon's are there? And they never get old imo. Sony and Ms should really revitalize their old but good franchises.
I mean it took forever to get a new metroid/pikmin and they probably have more dormant franchises than ms and sony combined.
Agree, but they can somewhat afford to keep them dormant, Sony and Ms has nothing interesting to release for next months maybe a year so, imo sony and ms are more in need to "rescue" their older franchises than Nintendo.
And yet Mario is shelved Zelda had 2 games this entire gen both very similar to eachother in the same open world with some new areas tacked on... I'm old enough to remember everyone clowing on Marvel's Spider-man 2 for having new boroughs added to the same old open world... but Tears of the Kingdom got a pass there. So many of Nintendo's past IP are also dormant. One new and only ok Metroid game in Dread and a remix of F-Zero with online in F-Zero 99... somehow that's good enough for Nintendo fans, though?
Mário isn't shelved, it had Wonder and Paper Mario recently, Zelda had to great games, agree very alike, but Sony could bring Killzone, there isn't a Killzone title in ten years, could bring Sly cooper this is dormant for god knows how long, as well as jak and daxter. Look I'm not a Nintendo fan not have any Nintendo system I'm just pointing that Nintendo does more with their franchises than Sony and Ms, Nintendo outsells both of them so they mus be doing something right, right?
If they don't copy call of duty or force some online fortnite type bullshhi I'm down for either of the 2 or both
Here here. I love Horizon but I’d be down to see Gurrola go back to their roots. Feel like Resistance is less likely, but god that would be awesome as well, lots of room for creativity there on the newer console.
It's time for devs to create new IPs instead of regurgitating the same sh*t we've played before
i wouldnt mind another hoard mode for resistance again. those were fun with friends.
Resistance would be awesome! A reboot with a full single player experience and then a robust online
Ah the golden years of PlayStation, when they weren’t scared of new fresh experimental experiences.
I would love killzone and Resistance I would love Sony to purchase a couple of newly formed fps studios I've seen a quite a few that's similar to battlefield and cod and they would do well for gass
Killzone: Mercenary 2 would be awesome and a reboot of Resistance: Fall of Man could be good too.
Soft reboots of both with an overarching story across more than one game would be great.
They would probably bring both (or at least Killzone) back as live service games
The first Killzone game never met lofty expectations of dethroning Xbox’s Halo, but if any game needs a PS5 remake, this is the one.
I like Halo, but I don't think there is any need for a 'Halo Killer' at this point. If anything, the franchise is slowly undermining itself by making some of the dumbest mistakes possible. Infinite has finally reached a good point in terms of multiplayer, but it took an extra 2 years to get there. Meanwhile, the single-player experience is fine but rather mediocre when compared to the franchise peak.
That said, I would like to see the Killzone franchise back, if anything, to offer more variety to the PS5 exclusive catalog.
sony should remaster all killzone games and bring back killzone multiplayer that is very similar to the style of killzone 2 multiplayer.
Halo killed itself after Halo Reach.
Killzone went a little down in quality with SF on PS4 and I wish they kept them coming..
I'd love a killzone trilogy, fully remastered on a single disc like they did with Uncharted. Maybe they could make it the full killzone saga including PSP and Vita games converted to console.
Yes please. Put me down for a copy, price irrelevant too. Loved allow those games in the franchise :)
I've never liked the idea of a 'franchise killer', why can't both thrive, without one killing off the other? Its such a childish mentality.
That being said, if there ever was a true 'Halo killer', then it would have to be 343 Studios, and the Xbox division. They're doing a fine job killing off their own IP, apparently.
@eonjay
Yeah and I still cringe super hard when IGN runs their next gen console watch segment 3 years into the consoles lifecycle we are approaching midgen likely by December and they are out there milking clicks like it's mid 2020 and were starved for information
Halo doesn't need to be killed, they've done that themselves. It's a shell of its former self.
And yet Halo is still here. Where is Killzone? Resistance? Haze? All the supposed "Halo Killers" are dead franchises 😂
"Dead" really isn't the right word for any of these franchises (except Haze). You're also calling these games dead for different reasons. oIMyersIo is saying a Halo is dead because it is not what it used to be and is saying it has gotten much worse. You are saying those franchises faded into obscurity and no one cares. I also find it funny that your first reaction is to name PlayStation franchises because you perceived their comment as a slight against Xbox. I hope you're at the very least part of their ambassador program...
Anyone that sees Killzone as dead is pretty myopic. A decade since their last Killzone, but they themselves have developed two full games since Shadow Fall. That's not many in context at all.
Resistance is a bit less clear. Insomniac is pretty tied up at the moment. Including all of their games on all platforms and ignoring Spider-Man Remastered, we're looking at 23 games since Resistance 3. That's alarmingly prolific and still no R4. My guess? In the modern era, a new Resistance is probably going to have to be a live service and Insomniac is not that studio.
I don't think it's dead though. Not at all.
Halo infinite is still the best exclusive fps and is doing great but you think it's dead lol. Its also one of the top fps games out here so i dont get where your coming from. Just because you don't play it does not mean it's dead or dying.
I liked killzone 1 & 2 and I think Sony should bring it back along with resistance cause they are in need of more variety in their first party lineup. Sony & MS are sitting on some great franchises that need a revival.
"Just because you don't play it"
And there your argument was derailed.
Through making such an assumption, you have only served to show that your response is that of a fanboy and any criticism of your beloved franchises is met with speculation in order to downplay any counter argument.
As a matter of fact, as many in team blue on this site will tell you, I often do defend Xbox just as much as I defend PS, so for you to make such a silly comment is laughable.
I have played plenty of Halo: Infinite - on Series S, Series X and PC via Steam. To say the game comes anywhere near the franchise greats such as Combat Evolved and Halo 2 is delusional. The franchise is a shell of its former self and that is a FACT.
It absolutely isn't the best fps exclusive but at this point we're arguing over preferences which is pointlessly subjective.
Where I do agree is that a Resistance comeback would be great for Sony.
That was the weirdest claim during that time. It reminded me of people claiming that The Order 1886 was a Gears of War Clone, which just goes to show you how delusional some gamers can be.
Guess things haven't changed much. But I am so ready for a Killzone, such a great franchise.
I guess I forgot the /s
Killzone was never around to be a Halo killer. It was 2 completely different games, while the marketing for Haze was to become the new Halo with co-op etc.
It depends on who you ask. It was definitely a halo killer for me. I would never pick halo over kz, especially the multiplayer. To me, the multiplayer was miles ahead of halo.
No need for them to kill Halo. Microsoft did that themselves 🤣
But like others have said, no need for a Halo killer. Just make a great shooter.
halo was massive, but ran on quake 3 physics engine for years (until halo reach I believe) IT WAS ALWAYS RUNNING ON A MODIFIED QUAKE 3 BASE ENGINE, so while 10 years ago that felt great, and was top notch, its now outdated and old-hat somewhat, time to move on.. for example the weightiness in modernwarefare 2019 blew it away, the lighting also, totally different games, but the point still applies,. stop rehashing, make something new, the nostalgia went away a long time ago,, unless they released something exceptionally special with infinite, I was prepared to go back, but they didn't, so its over now, let it r.i.p.
I wish they'd bring over these old PS3 games to current gen and PC. I crave Infamous, and to try Resistance and Killzone. And honestly speaking I think anything at this point can become a Halo killer since the series hasn't been the sa!e since Bungies departure.
I love that PlayStation's most recent acknowledgement of the series in many, many years is a t-shirt in The Last of Us Part 2 Remaster. Sad times
Why does it need to be a Halo killer? Why can't it just be it's own thing? Are we 5 years old or something?
No need to kill anything. Just come back. Gotta be one of the most requested IP that Sony is quietly sitting on.
Halo became a halo killer.
Seriously though that term was from a time when halo was on top of the world it was the must have shooter the golden eye of the 6th gen.
Then cod came along and we all fell in love with military shooters and that became the number 1 shooter.
Killzone wanted a shot at halo back in the day because there was nothing like it but they never figured out the special sauce I loved kz 2 and shadow fall but I know I'm in a minority there.
I want kz to come back and I really want it as a VR game to boot but I don't want it to be Halo
A remake? No thanks. Give the series a soft reboot with a story arc across multiple games.
Probably not a popular take. But I think Sony would put out a Killzone Online, a f2p with season pass. With season 1 you would get K1 remastered. And then season 2 with K2 remastered and so on. KZ online would be would be the MP component and have 3 kinds of game modes. One small scale team death match, like 12 Vs 12. One large scale BF kinda game mode with vehicle, 64 Vs 64. And one Battle royal teams, you drop in as a team of 4 out of 100 players and do the BR thing
I never liked Halo much because the controls and movement felt so floaty. I never much liked Killzone because the controls and movement felt so heavy. Loved the graphics and environments though.
Huh? Wtf you talking about theloadout? KZ1 was never a Halo killer and it was never even aiming in that direction. Let me guess, it was before your time and you are just pulling history out your butt again.
I would LOVE a KZ 1-3 remake. I don't care if it's on the PS6. That would only mean the graphics would be light years ahead of the original
That stupid tag line shows up again. I think it was OPM came up with that trash
Why bother? Phil killed halo, so halo is already dead without sony putting any effort.
Just remake killzone 2 with the same atmosphere and improvements and it’s game over.
But why? Just reboot it or make a new IP. What about a new entry in the same universe. Stay confused at the people who want to play games they already experienced.
The Killzone series has been dormant since Shadow Fall, but a live service style for its multiplayer might just be exactly what it needs to succeed.
It will fail as a live service. An attractive reboot is required. Sony needs a strong first party FPS.
They don't need a first party fps. Outside of Cod, they aren't as popular as they were last gen and definitely not as popular as they were in the PS3/360 era.
COD is not the be-all and end-all of FPS games. Sony will only have it for a couple of years as the deal is more or less set in stone. Sony needs to work on bringing back Resistance/Killzone/MAG. They're sitting on so many IPs and yet they much prefer to chase the cinematic crowd or be an overall nuisance when things are changing. What did they expect when they play the money game against a much more wealthier company to can outpsend you when neccessary.
The "Trying to turn us into another Nintendo" should have been seen as compliment or as another way to thrive.
Pedantic91
Playing the money game do you mean the advertising rights to cod
Those Same rights ms bought first back during the 360. Ms has had 20 years to get it together and they haven't. All I have to say is who's next ms couldn't handle it even worse since they had more money then nin and Sony. They closed and or ruined so many studios. What is their issue
I think they could seriously improve the fps genre in ways they dont even know.
Imagine those set peice moments that theyre making in 3rd person translated and designed for 1st person.
I think they could compete at a certain extent with CoD. Ive wanted another killzone and resistance long before the activ bliizard deal came around. Not to compete with CoD but to give great single player fps campaigns...this is sorely lacking right now and I hope Sonys sees it eventually.
Best careful what you wish for.
Overwatch 2 is another bad live service game.
Once a developer and publisher have burnt most of the goodwill of their playerbase an entire franchise can be destroyed.
Overwatch 2 despite the rough launch and bugs is hugely successful and crazy popular.
Not to mention Killzone is already dead so if a live service fails it what? Goes back to doing what it is now, being dead. Thus Killzone has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Hell no.
Just remake KZ2 keep gameplay the same and it'll thrive, I'm sure of it.
No it won't because if they just released a real multiplayer game and not a live service in 2022/2023 people would be whining two weeks after launch that the game was abandoned and "sent out to die."
People hate the terms "Live Service" and "Games as a Service," but in reality that's the only thing people want to play.
Not at all. I currently play no live service games. I did try fallout 76. It became annoying when they wanted money for more storage. I probably played about 15 hours or so.
@shinoff2183
I appreciate that individuals here and there don't, but if you look at how people react to multiplayer games now, it's clear that people want a live service, even if they don't want the publisher to call it that.
Look at Battlefield V. Tha game had maps released here and there for about a year and half, which is actually pretty typical for a Battlefield game (only 4 got map packs later in it's life cycle). Yet the entire narrative around that game now is that the devs abandoned it.
Or look at Red Dead Online. People talk about that game being "dead," and the community even had a funeral. Which you'd think would mean that the servers were down (that's what it used to mean), but it actually just meant the game was just being maintained in a status quo, not as a live service.
Heck, people's complaints about Halo are even more evidence. People used to play Halo multiplayer to have fun. Now people can't see the point in playing the game if there aren't new skins to earn.
Exactly!! If you don't believe what's being said, I dare you to explore the most successful ongoing games. It seems like people just want everything to stay the same with no progression. I may not play, Destiny, Fortnite, FF14, League, Genshin or the like but I can see the opportunity they add to the industry.
Honestly, people dont even understand what live service is at this point. They just hate the term.
What exactly would an FPS in 2022 that is NOT live service be?
No new maps released consistently
No new guns
Maybe a map pack at some point that completely breaks the player base/matchmaking
No constant balance / tuning updates
Thats what a live service FPS is at the end of the day. Anything else like battle passes or microtransactions are the funding methods
@JEECE
Halo Infinite MP was released as a live service game, though. it's starved off contents unlike other live service games thus the backlash is justified imo.
oh hell no!!!!, look at Halo it sure is thriving lol, Killzone only needs a good story, heck you could even leave the graphics visual style of Shadowfall cause up to this day still looks freaking amazing.
It was my favourite in the franchise to date because it was a departure from the drab and dreary original colour profile the city keeps were still some of the best you'll see on ps4 to this day
343i can't develop their own games in their own right and outsource when possible. I doubt Guerrilla Games would make the same mistakes but I don't see Killzone being a live service game adding much to anything other then Sony's bottom line.
Shadowfall was such a drop off from KZ 2/3. I wish they could remake KZ2; with the weight feel also.
Why does everything have to be a work in progress approach now?
Just give us the campaign and the multi-player. Complete multi-player. With plenty of maps and a handful of game modes. Then come out with some map and weapon packs a couple times a year. That's all it needs. That's all the previous KZ games needed that people loved. That's all the Battlefield games needed up through BF4 that people loved.
Why change the formula? Oh that's right. It's easier to release an unfinished and unpolished game, charge full price for it along with expensive dlc packs, then continue adding things and charging half the price of the game for them that should have been included at launch in the first place.
It blows my mind that fans let this crap get this bad.
Time has changed, publishers are pushing GaaS games cous theyr is a ton of money to earn. And as long as gamers will buy those games and service packs and DLC and in game purchases they will keep making them and milk them like Kingdom comes.
Oh I know. Everything you said is true. I just can't believe it's gotten to this point. At no point have the majority of gamers stood up and said "no more". They just keep giving their money. I mean, if DLC is already being sold at launch, then what do these people think that means? It means that content was ready to go and should have been included in the game, not held off separately to sell.
The new CoD is a perfect example. It's honestly the best CoD has been in a very long time, as a game. But there are like 10 DLC "operator packs" that give you a new character skin, and couple guns, and some weapon charms and calling cards. And they all cost anywhere from $10-$20 a piece. Not to mention the Battle Pass that let's you earn more items like that. This stuff is all already in the game but locked behind a pay wall. On a game that already costs full price lol. Battle Pass is $30. Half the price of the game. And this is just the FIRST Battle Pass. The amount of money to get all that stuff is hundreds of dollars. And this is just in the first month of the game launching lol.
It's completely unbelievable.
New killzone single player campaign accompanied by a remaster of 2 and 3 would be great.
Live service…not for me.
God I hope the Activision deal goes through so Sony has to stop resting on their laurels and actually start competing. They're so used to leading the industry that they don't really care to be better anymore.
They bought Bungie to make a bunch of Fortnite clones hoping one of them will stick. They said Bungie has experience in this field and they want in on that market. They've said all of this...
Thats so wrong, the ones that where sitting on theyr laurels for manymany years and where not realy competing and now that Nadala is screaming: "Lets compete".
And the answer from MS is by doing that by byuing complete Publishers,
Thats not competing that doing what MS has been doing for decades, and is theyr DNA, when you cant win buy out the competition.
I'm not saying Microsoft is the good guy here lol. I'm saying I want Sony to care more. They're just as bad with all the anti consumer shit theyve been doing this gen along with all the exclusivity deals with everyone and making the games run better on playstation. It's just as bad as Microsoft buying publishers.
Lol come on, nobody cares about feckin Killzone it's a seriously terrible IP where 4 of the 5 games were worse than horse shit. GG have made two excellent games since and should move on from this garbage.
And if Sony wants an FPS they should create something new, not KZ or other mediocre tripe like Resistance. They have the devs to make something fresh and awesome plus they have Deviation
There is alot of people including myself who care very much for Killzone. You don't speak for us or for all.
A new fps is definitely welcomed but a revisit back to a new Resistance & a Killzone game would be nice as well.
What everyone is failing to see is the potential in the Helgast Universe being built on top of a Destiny formula. Perhaps this is the reason why Bungie was such a pivitol addition to their stable of developers. We need to stop focusing on the idea of "live service" alone when there is validity in its implementation to cement sustainable profitability.
What made me enjoy Killzone 1 & 2 was the enemy. They invaded earth in the first. We fought back and took it to them. Hellghast has a Nazi mentality to them and it was alluring to fight a new but familiar foe.
Fascist is the word, and the Helghast invaded Vekta in the first game but it is an earth like planet
I won’t argue with someone who has a Helghast avatar. When I played the original, I must have been 10
Psvr2 could use killzone as a excellent showcase piece.
We really don't need a live service looter shooter with a killzone wrapper we already have far to many of these types of games.
Yes, FPS, driving games etc, belong on VR.
Firewall was/is very good, and the new one is the only FPS I'm interested in.
A new Socom wouldn't be good like the old ones, it would be designed around Operators and selling Microtransactions like Rainbow Six Siege.
Nope. Just make an excellent brand new PS5 Killzone game with Bungie at the development helm.
As long as they take the Killzone2 formula. Adding actual weight to the characters and guns, the fluid evolving game modes, and the griddy industrial Helghast maps.
People crack me up talking about Sony bringing back all of these old franchises that no one was really buying and playing when they were around. I mean seriously if these franchises were such huge blockbusters why did Sony allow them to go dormant?
Play games and stop trying to be the CEO or President.
Resistance and Killzone all sold millions of copies with each installment. But they couldn’t compete with the tens of millions of PlayStation players that bought call of duty because it said call of duty on the box. Both Resistance 3 (2011) and KZ3 (2011) sold less than their predecessors. KZSF (2013) also didn’t have the spirit of the first 3 games either but retained the attention to detail the series had.
I agree with what you are saying. It is not that these games were bad and yes they moved some units, but to act like they can just replace COD with them is wishful thinking. They WILL need to respond in some way but maybe it’ll be some new IP that’s a FPS.
If you mean like destiny...hell no. Killzone needs a masterful reboot. Preferably by devs who love the franchise. Then use an open forum with players who equally know and love killzone to shoot ideas around.
Or you know...maybe, im just shooting the shit here, a good game??
I know thats an outrageous proposition but crazier things have happened.
At this point, is there anything that can beat or do on par as CoD? We’ve seen many FPS tried over the past 15 years and not a single one have succeeded in dethroning CoD. I am not a big fan of CoD, to me CoD is just another madden with guns. Same thing with a different paint.
Let Bungie take over Killzone and maybe live service would work, otherwise, just no.
I can hear that Killzone kill chirp now, good times.
Killzone built around KZ 2 MP has so much potential. Character classes skill based can be expanded with inner team bonus co-op.
Hostage/civilian rescue.
Propaganda drop/push & destroy (creating boosts)
Area clearance & defence fort creation.
Ship crash rescue/plunder
Drop ships & tank AI on battlefield
KZ1 HD:
-Can be bought from PS Store separately
- 720p @ 30fps no Famerate drops
- Updated controls
-Improved audio
- Trophies
- No remote play
- Split screen multiplayer remains
- No 3D
-No Move support
-No online multiplayer
OMFGGGG, day 1 for glory of Helghan!
Thank you for letting me buy this individually from the other two. I have Killzone 2 and 3 and I wanted Killzone HD (ahh memories). I am a little disappointed (if what ritsuka666 is true because I couldn't see it) at the no move controls because I liked Killzone 3's controls and I found I preferred the move controls but still very happy to see Killzone HD ( I do hope it isn't a rushed job and doesn't turn out the same as what happened to Medal of Honour: Frontline)
why are people complaining about 30fps ? they have been playing too much COD . 30fps is just fine
im wondering if theyre gonna fix the graphics issues
Damn, no online multiplayer :( THAT would have been amazing.