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New Harry Potter showcases everything wrong with Kinect

Harry Potter is a rich and magical world worthy of a high-quality video game. Instead, the upcoming Kinect title showcases everything that is wrong with controller-free gaming.

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NovusTerminus4503d ago (Edited 4503d ago )

Okay, I really hate HP, but I watched the gameplay and read your article... Not sure why but whatever, lets run with it!

This quote is quite bothersome.

"I don’t even have to mention the canon-breaking inclusion of your self-created student and I’ll still have enough fire power to make my case"

Why does that matter? Putting your own self in the universe, something allot of people like to do. Why does it matter if it breaks the cannon? This game is NOT cannon, so it doesn't matter!

But, yeah aside from that I agree with the writer, the game does look like crap! But wanting an in depth and good game from a studio just cashing in on a license is not gonna happen.

TheMrFraz4503d ago

Hmmm...I guess the idea of an Avatar Me adventuring through iconic straight-from-the-films setpieces just bothers me. Like, I'd be all for a separate story set in the Harry Potter world of another student (a la me) taking part in behind-the-scenes business, but wielding the Sword of Gryffindor in the Chamber of Secrets? Are you kidding me? Things like this, things that so blatantly never happened...I dunno, I have trouble getting over them, even in a game I'll never play.

Perhaps if they pitched this as a Harry Potter game without context to either the books or films I'd be fine, but specifying that the connection with the movies makes no sense other than to say, "Hey, look! Our Harry looks like Daniel Radcliffe!"

Biggest4503d ago

I get what you're saying and I agree. It just feels off. Had they used the Harry Potter universe without Harry specific themes it would be all good. Injecting a new face into familiar scenes isn't a good idea.

Shadonic4503d ago

Games gonna suck, physical interaction or controllers are not needed for a good game to exist, and 100% of how a game comes out depends on the developers not the peripheral.

TheMrFraz4503d ago

I would love to agree with you, but I firmly do not believe an action-adventure release with gameplay that involves holding some object can be done without a controller.

If you disagree, I would actually love to hear a design pitch on how one might work. Believe me, I'd love to be proven wrong.

Shadonic4503d ago

Actually its not really needed I've written about a page worth of explanations for this but sadly my ipod kept closing the page making me lose my work. Basically take fable the journey where the player uses magic in a different way involving a combination of motions for different spells (imagine the skyrim spell charge animation but your doing it and each spell has a unique animation to be done for activation. It is an action adventure game that has magic and movement like the horseback riding where the player acts as if hes steering the horse. This kind of just goes back to the days that every child has to when he or she probably pretended to hold some toy gun its basically that but with the gaming added in. Though it honestly dosent matter in most cases with kinect games because you can just pick up a stick or something from outside or something ive done it in kung fu high impact and once on kinect star wars and while it did feel a little better at the same time it was still the same thing. I recently tried out the steel battalion demo which implements more immersion with kinect like when my crew mate tried to bail out of the mech and i grabbed him before he got out and started punching him ( actual punching required ) to knock some sense into him. Things like this are great implementations and could be used a lot more in kinect games to add some immersion. its actually not that hard it just takes more time to get used to it then it usually does with a controller and that's something a lot of people including reviewers don't take into account.

Shadonic4503d ago (Edited 4503d ago )

Idk if you have or not but someones already done a kinect control design for skyrim that is actually pretty good. He uses the same control design i came up with over the year with the movement of rise of nightmares for forward movement, the aiming of basically implementing the usual courser movement on the dashboard but on a fixed position and the fighting is just basically mimicking real world moves magic,armor,weapons and shouts are put on through voice command like the current update but hes done it way before Bethesda. Hes also done a kinect Bulletstorm that has shooting and movement as well. Things that could of been implemented and improved on by Ubisoft with ghost recon.

Sorry about all this writing dude its just that im going into game design and I'm mostly focused on things pertaining to subjects like this and once i start its hard to stop.

TitanUp4503d ago (Edited 4503d ago )

some things about hp annoys me but bad hp games annoy me even more. expecting a good harry potter game is like expecting a good superman game not ever going to happen

TheMrFraz4503d ago

Lego Batman 2 may make you eat those words.

Baka-akaB4503d ago

Seems more like it showed everything wrong with harry potter games (except lego) .

They are all fugly and badly though out , nothing to do with kinect per se . Even if the general level of quality (or lack of) of kinect games doesnt help

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia975d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog975d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916975d ago (Edited 975d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69974d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming974d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79974d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember974d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog975d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop975d ago (Edited 975d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog975d ago (Edited 975d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop974d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic974d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop974d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10975d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar974d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10974d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell974d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10974d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72974d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming974d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog974d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming974d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming974d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721151d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1151d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901151d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1151d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1151d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131151d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1151d ago (Edited 1151d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1151d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1151d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1151d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771151d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1151d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901151d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1151d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901151d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1150d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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