Microsoft confirms Rise of the Tomb Raider Xbox exclusivity deal "has a duration"

Xbox boss Phil Spencer has confirmed to Eurogamer that Microsoft's controversial exclusivity deal for Rise of the Tomb Raider "has a duration".

However, he declined to confirm how long that duration is set for.

[imt558]

Well, here we go again.

CBOAT/Shinobi redeemed!

They said it is time exclusive!

EDIT :

But cross-gen in 2015 is ABSOLUTELY hilarious!!

[NewMonday]

just count it as a game in the backlog, 2015 is loaded with games delayed from 2014 anyway.

[Mikelarry]

exactly there are other bigger and some could argue better games coming out before then so i will just sit back, enjoy the ride and when it comes to ps4 get it then

[TomShoe]

Great, it's timed.

I'm still not buying it, because it sets a bad precedent with SE greedily taking money to restrict their game.

Uncharted 4 for me.

[DeadlyOreo]

I'm happy about this news, knowing that I won't be missing out on this game, I'm sure I'll have things to play between the gap. I guess now we know when Microsoft say "exclusive" most of the time that's pretty much going to be timed.

[Ares84HU]

Timed, great. Will buy it for $39.99, not a penny more because of this.

[SniperControl]

Didn't greenburg deny this when asked on twitter?

[sonarus]

@TomShoe. I am not against playing great games, if the game is TRULY TRULY great i might buy it. But even the last tomb raider that has everyone giving the franchise hope again was just good to me. It was great relative to all the other crap tomb raiders that have released over the years.

However, lets pretend it will be best game ever, i still wouldn't buy an xbox for a game that i could just wait a few months for.

[MRMagoo123]

There is gonna be a few embarrassed xbone fans when they wake up with their talk saying it's never coming to ps4 lmao , I still don't want it anyway.

[NewMonday]

@TomShoe

just get it used

It's what I do with all Ubisoft games now.

[LordMaim]

@SniperControl: No, when Keighley said "exclusive on Xbox for holiday 2015" Greenburg replied by saying "That is not what we said" but did not clarify by saying it was a lifetime exclusive. Literally, all Greenburg said was that they didn't specify the length of the exclusivity.

https://twitter.com/aarongr...

Either way, Spencer's statement is pretty clear. As expected, within a year it will be on the PS4 as well.

@PraxxtorCruel: Your generalizations are pretty sweeping there. Maybe you could reign that in a little.

[ZeroX9876]

I wasn't really happy about the exclusivity deal, but now I can still look forward to playing this game on my platform of choice (PC or PS4).

[GTgamer]

Idgaf if I buy it and that's a big "IF" you better believe it's gonna be Used Square wants to treat their fans like idiots okie dokie and no I ain't giving Phil credit because he could of said timed from the get go and this topic has being going on all morning yesterday and it took him this long to respond then you got greenburg on Twitter saying something different.Communication Level Below 9000

[TomShoe]

@NewMonday

Yeah I suppose that's a good idea. I just don't want to support SE's practices.

[garos82]

companies who clearly shun the more powerful console in which to how off their latest offerings are certainly not worth my time. there is plenty of interesting titles to look forward to, TR needs to be something special to bring me back.

[johndoe11211]

Still not gonna buy it. This sh!t practice needs to stop.

[Ezz2013]

Never change microsoft ....never change

as for Phill
i gotta say i didn't think he would play with words about Timed exclusives like who was in charge before him
and why did he need to do that only to confirm later that it's timed exclusive ?!...why he didn't say that in first place then ?!

as for SquareEnix ...they will never get my money on any game they make from now on

[amiga-man]

I'm not surprised, it's how MS work everyone who has seen how MS operate always new this would be a timed exclusive.

[morganfell]

@Praxxtor,

No. And like 3 people I know personally I also cancelled my Temple of Osiris order. Had this been a new IP such as Evolve I could have cared less. But to sell the most units on PlayStation and then take this route has led me to exercise my rights as a gamer.

Microsoft miscalculated in another way. For every X1 this may sell there are 4 or 5 people that will now not buy an X1 out of spite.

I purchased a Wii U 2 days ago. A great buy. Do you think after owning 5 Xbox 360s I would consider an X1? No. And not because of this incident. This is just icing on the cake. No, because MS attempted to rob gamers of more rights in a single day than anyone in the history of gaming. MS changed their policies not because of a vision for gamers but because they were bludgeoned into submission. Is this a company I will support? No. Will I support their partners such as SE that betray the people in the PC and PS community that kept them afloat? Not in a hundred years.

[Mr Pumblechook]

Phil Spencer had to admit it was timed because he could hear the backlash getting bigger and the anti-Xbox resentment growing.

[Enemy]

Where's everyone who doubted me yesterday? Told you. :)

[SilentNegotiator]

@Lord Maim

We all know the Doritos Pope is Microsoft's puppet anyway. Him using legal-appropriate, PR-like wording and Microsoft's PR subsequently denying it is quite hilarious. It's like watching someone with two heads denying association with one of them.

head 1: "It's exclusive for Holiday 2015!"
head 2: "I didn't say that!"

[bouzebbal]

now suck it Crystal Dynamics. they just claimed not more than yesterday that exclusive is total.
this means one thing: boycott!

[GameNameFame]

I find some x1 fanboys reaction hilarious from this.

Look at MS history. This was so obvious. Fallout is just hilarious.

[choujij]

@Morganfell

Amen. For me, two bridges were burned yesterday.

@Mr Pumblechook

Agreed. I said yesterday after the announcement that this would do more harm then good. These brands must be run by idiots. Given Xbox's history and current position in the market, it honestly boggles my mind how they could not foresee this blowing up in their faces.

"When people want me to say, can you tell us when or if it's coming to other platforms, it's not my job," Spencer told Eurogamer."

Dear Mr. Spencer, there is a fine line between doing your job and omitting industry terms (of which your company coined) in an attempt to deceive the masses into believing a game is exclusive to your platform, when in reality, you only fitted the bill for a timed exclusive.

[nX]

Microsoft PR strikes again, did they really think they can get away with aquiring a big franchise without explaining it? Imagine if they would've said last year that Dead Rising 3, Ryse and PvZ are timed as well... Xbox One sales would look very different now.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Now Sony fans can take a chill pill now right? They can quit spreading hate all across the gaming boards?

[Major_Glitch]

This is ONE of the reasons I believe that MICROSOFT IS A BLIGHT upon the gaming industry...fake "exclusives". In the old days(before MS), when a video game company said a game was exclusive to their console, it was actually exclusive to their console. It wasn't timed, and it also wasn't available on pc.

[morganfell]

You are right Angelic. Microsoft and SEhad no part in this. Fans should not be able to voice their displeasure. The audacity of such people appalls me.

And you are also right all those angry comments from PC gamers I read were really PlayStation fans in disguise. The nerve of such people I tell ya.

You should be more careful, your bias is showing.

[redwin]

I'm in the unique position of having all the consoles and with all the years I've been playing, I have never seen so much hate. Wow, how sad. We where happy back then about talking to people that gamed, if they had a different system was cool because we could get to play the other system and have different experiences. Wow, hate is killing the pride of calling myself a gamer.

[mechlord]

Im trying hard to find an angle where squeenix didnt shot themselves in the foot with this one but I cant. Can someone politely help me?

[Why o why]

Lol @ morganfell's comment......

To be fair....angelic was telling the x1 petitioners to chill regarding destiny too. I've no issue with his preference even if it conflicts with my own.

[starchild]

I figured it would be. I'm glad it is. Tomb Raider is one of my favorite game series. I'll be getting it on PC whenever that version comes out.

[LonDonE]

I knew it was timed!
Either way i am going to buy it used when its cheap that way i get to play it and none of the money will go to the devs or publishers.
Even though i own all platforms its principal for me! giving the core tomb raider fan base on Playstation the middle finger in my books is taking the piss! and i wont be giving my money to them! simple as i urge every other pc/Playstation gamers to do the same.

Its Uncharted 4 for me all the way! uncharted is going to be light years better then this any how.

[DragonKnight]

I hope all PC and PS4 users STRONGLY reconsider buying this game when it launches on either device. At least right away. Make SE sweat and beg for your dollars before buying it, or buy it used. They don't deserve our money for pulling this B.S.

You can't just piss off millions of people and think it's perfectly fine and dandy to do so. There has to be consequences. I really hope people will vote with their wallet.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

@Tom Shoe

It was Uncharted for you anyway. That's why it is not a big deal.

[Dee_91]

I can't really forgive neither MS or SE.I hate this business practice.MS paying to essentially delay the release on other platforms to make the illusion of an exclusive and SE actually going along with it shows that MS will still shaft gamers to make potential money ( even after all of the crap they put themselves through... I guess they will never change) and SE is a studio that can be bought at the price of shafting their fans.
Yea thanks for clearing this up, still doesn't change the fact that this move is complete BS... hell its even more BS now that its a timed exclusive..

[rainslacker]

Honestly, if the whole statement had been left to MS, I think most people would have assumed it was timed exclusive. All the talk before the blog post was that it was likely timed. People were annoyed, but didn't see any real hate.

After the blog post started getting around though, people were really upset. It was really SE/CD that screwed up the PR with that blog post, as they said that it was exclusive, and gave some BS reasons why, and then insulted their customers further by pulling a Don Mattrick(As it's apparently become known on the blog comment section).

@Silent

I agree, MS needed to nip the negative PR in the bud. It was causing a lot of negative feedback towards MS, which is probably the exact opposite of what they wanted. Whether it will hurt them in the long run, as in if people swear off MS because of the crappy policy of buying exclusives like this, remains to be seen.

[NatureOfLogic_]

Respect to Phil Spencer for clarifying. Screw SquareEnix.

[iamnsuperman]

Though it shouldn't really need clearing up in the first place. It should have been said there and then. I hope Microsoft learns a lesson from this like Sony did after this year's E3 (They were not clear at E3 and that annoyed people but change that at gamescom)

[Dark11]

Good on him for being clear about it.

[bicfitness]

Respect? For what? Creating yet another media/PR-sh!tstorm? You don't get respect for telling the truth, that's expected.

Same Phil that drove the 1st party output into the ground for the last 4 years of the 360's life too. But let's glorify the man. Okay.

[torchic]

but why do Microsoft still have problems with communication? like cmon this mess should never have happened in the first place when will they ever learn!

also don't see why Phil Spencer deserves props Microsoft hierarchy were also parading the game as a full exclusive no?

[SniperControl]

Phil Spencer is the only guy i respect at MS, always tells it how it is. no BS.

If anyone persuades me to buy an X1, it will be him.

[DigitalHope]

Anyone notice there was still a little bit of Sony in Phil Spencer?

"and Beyond" he said and when he said it he had that, damnit look on his face.

But I'm glad this was cleared up, really we all knew it would be timed anyways.

[christocolus]

@bicfitness

Lol. Phil drove MS 1st party to the ground? Lmao. How did you come up with that? All the devs were so glad when he became head of xbox. Bungie even sent out an open letter congratulating him saying he was the best for the job..others said Phil was one of the few guys over at MS who kept their jobs safe and so you know in his former job role he had very little control over stuff even third party devs were happy about his new appointment. MS Devs seem to have their creative freedom back ,they seem relaxed and focused now.craig duncan said this about lionhead and phil harrison said same thing about rare now. joseph staten is back to MS from bungie too.
You should find out more before crucifying people.

[Gazondaily]

@bicfitness

"Same Phil that drove the 1st party output into the ground for the last 4 years of the 360's life too. But let's glorify the man."

What a load of bull.

[TheFallenAngel]

Yeah I gotta give him props for this. Aaron Greenberg lied about it yesterday and Phil came out to clarify. He deserves some respect. Screw Greenberg and major Nelson though.

[LeCreuset]

I think Phil is smart. Let's be real, this deal was only worth something to MS so long as no one confirmed it was timed. That was the perception they meant to put out there to attract gamers to Xbox. Now that he sees this deal has done more to damage the Xbox rep, as opposed to being a system seller, he is trying to rehabilitate Phil has confirmed it is a timed exclusive.

[Kayant]

"Respect to Phil Spencer for clarifying" - The same Phil that refused to do the same thing yesterday. Sorry but my respect for him on that is small there was time to do it yesterday and MS as a whole refused to clarify their deal until after the shitstorm.

I will give that he explained the deal well now but it don't change the fact clarification didn't happen on the day.

Both parties don't want to clarify. CD gave an equally shitty PR statement yesterday and Square where no where to be seen -

"we believe this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming, with the help, belief and backing of a major partner like Microsoft" - Yh because because Square enix your parent company and owner some how doesn't exist.

Screw both of them.

[MightyNoX]

@Septic: post from Neogaf which puts Phil's reign as head 1st party in light.
----------
Sure you don't build a first party stable overnight, but in MS' case when they hell are they going to start?
Started Turn 10, who went on to make Forza, the one truly original IP from Microsoft to ever succeed.

Bought Bungie when Halo was months from release, had them port it to Xbox, cancelling a much hyped PC version which did later arrive, not to mention the Mac version Bungie had been promising.

Purchased FASA as part of another acquisition in 1999. After doing very little with the Shadowrun and MechWarrior IPs on the Xbox family of consoles closes FASA in 2007, licences out all their worthwhile IPs to small studios.

Bought Rare in 2002, since they have mined the Perfect Dark, Banjo, and Conker IPs with zero success, made one new mascot IP for Xbox 360's launch that never got a follow up despite being a pretty solid (kid friendly) game (Kameo, FYI). Have since been largely relegated to Kinect titles, weren't even the ones who made the Killer Instinct reboot.

Purchased Lionhead in 2006. Proceeded to have them make nothing but Fable games, including a crappy Kinect Fable game. Stopped making PC versions entirely, games progressively got further and further away from the original concept for Fable. A large number of staff has been laid off over the past two years, another large group up and left with Molyneaux, which if it was anything like his departure from Bullfrog to found Lionhead constituted his core staff he's had everywhere (i.e. the real talent in the studio). Making yet another Fable game that is even further removed from the original premise.

Started up 343 studios as a replacement for Bungie when Bungie wanted out as opposed to eternally making nothing but Halo. Now 343 makes nothing but Halo, only not as well as Bungie. The game they wouldn't let Bungie make, Destiny, is now the most pre-ordered game yet. Winning?

Disbanded Ensemble Studios, Aces Studio, MS Flight Team, MS Victoria Studio (never released anything) and Carbonated Games. Have in the last several years purchased BigPark (absorbed into MS Game Studios), Twisted Pixel (who's next game was a full blown stinker), Press Play (nothing of note, so basically shuffling deck chairs with this and closing Carbonated).

Also, Black Tusk isn't new. It's Microsoft Vancouver. They just cleaned house and renamed it after Vancouver went years without finishing anything. Black Tusk is doing an admirable job keeping that history alive.

This is just a quick sample of how MS has handled their first parties. Forza is the only new IP they've generated and maintained worth a shit in their entire time as a console first party. Everything else was bought, mismanaged, and typically shuttered.
Instead of this (which probably cost them $50M or better), Titanfall (which also likely cost them $50M or better) the stated NFL deal at $400M, and buying the Gears IP from Epic (likely a solid $50-$100M price tag) Microsoft could have funded over a half dozen of the biggest, most expensive AAA exclusives EVER. They gave the NFL more money for a fantasy football app than Take 2/Rockstar spent on Grand Theft Auto 5. Let that sink into your head when you excuse their lack of first party studios as "taking time".

[Godmars290]

"Same Phil that drove the 1st party output into the ground for the last 4 years of the 360's life too. But let's glorify the man. Okay."

That's what I thought when the man was being heralded as a savior: the man's been involved with all of the bad choices as well. Publicly defended them. What real change is he really going to effect?

@torchic
"but why do Microsoft still have problems with communication? like cmon this mess should never have happened in the first place when will they ever learn!"

If they didn't lie, try to confuse the issue, then the whole effort would have been a wasted exercise. It wouldn't benefit them at all.

As is it will likely now be a damaging episode, would have been one regardless once it was all cleared up, but what the hey.

[Mr Pumblechook]

What do you mean respect to Phil Spencer? He is the architect of this stupid deal. He is the man who wants to buy Xbone success, not earn it.

[MysticStrummer]

"Respect to Phil Spencer for clarifying."

Indeed, and Greenburg's denial of timed exclusivity is now hilarious, though I guess he could have been denying the duration, not the timed nature of the deal.

http://n4g.com/news/1565694...

This news makes Sony's win yesterday even clearer. What is MS doing with all that money they have???

So many articles were written yesterday based on a false assumption, and so many PS fans were called delusional for saying the game wasn't truly exclusive.

[trenso1]

@bicfitness see this how they are getting them of course phil would be the one to say this and not anyone else. They want people to believe there is at least one person at MS that they can trust. Even though phil has been here since the 360 was on the decline, but lets all forget that.

[k3rn3ll]

I'm still trying to figure out why people are mad at MS. SQUARE Enix signed the deal

[k3rn3ll]

And Sony isn't parading No Man's Sky as an exclusive? Or even Destiny?

[Hk85karlsson]

Is it though? Respect is given/recieved when you do something good. Phil felt the need (extreme need) to tell the truth so it wouldn't bite him in the ass the next day.

But..It's better then not do it. Like Mattrick would have.

[Manic2014]

@Kayant
This interview was done yesterday, Eurogamer posted it today.

[badz149]

@k3rn3ll

trolling sat its finest! In No Man's Sky's case, Sony clearly said "exclusive platform debut" which means the game will come out on PS4 first in other word, "timed exclusive"! at least provide link/proof where Sony claimed NMS as "exclusive" or you're just saying BS!

and with Destiny, you are just spreading BS again! when has Sony EVER claimed Destiny as exclusive? what they do is market the exclusive DLC just like they did with ACIV and WD and their exclusive extra contents.

and for god sake MS even said in their Gamescom presentation that "Xbox One is the BEST platform to play Destiny". TROLL!

[insomnium2]

Holy hell Mightynox just piledrived everyone into oblivion. One HELL of a comment right there. This is how you earn a "well said" if I ever saw one.

[Why o why]

k3rn3ll

Please Stop

Show me parading.

[Why o why]

I know theres a 'well said' and an 'intelligent' button but theres no 'beat down' or 'dont hit em no more' button.......

MightyNox.......you bully you

[Dee_91]

Its still screw MS for me.They proved once again they care more about potential profit than gamers.

[MightyNoX]

In CBOAT we trust

[callahan09]

Like I said elsewhere, this is perfectly fine. Microsoft gets Tomb Raider exclusively at launch to compete against Uncharted 4, Square-Enix doesn't have to fend off Uncharted 4 when they try to sell this game to PS4 gamers, and eventually PS4 gamers will buy Tomb Raider when they're all finished with Uncharted 4. Works out for well for all parties involved. Everyone and their mother could guess that if Tomb Raider came out at the same time as Uncharted 4, on PS4, it wouldn't sell anything on PS4. Would be a waste of a release. Delaying the release makes sense to not compete with Uncharted, but NOT delaying on Xbox also makes all the sense in the world!

[iamnsuperman]

They won't be just competing with Uncharted. Uncharted sell isn't the fact it is Indian Jones style game. It is the story driven stuff. Tomb Raider and Uncharted are not just competing against each other but the rest of the games releasing at that time. It makes sense for Sony to put Uncharted there to push sales of the PS4 (before holiday releasing a big first party bundle). Tomb Raider is going to struggle to distinguish itself even if Microsoft bundles it. When is Halo 5 releasing? I assume the same time also. SE should have gone for an early 2016 release. Less competition.

[Flamingweazel]

They will get destroyed by uncharted, MS is dilusiona to think otherwise.

[LeCreuset]

Yeah, I noticed that cross-gen bit that was buried in there. That's a bit disappointing for a game releasing holiday 2015.

[Clogmaster]

I don't remember Contra 3 or Turtles in Time releasing on the NES. What a waste of development time and money.

Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

My eyes!

[ArchangelMike]

Yeah, I think Phil came out and confirmed it because the deal was generating negative press both towards M$ and Squenix.

They should know by now that gamers are not stupid to fall for marketing shpeel anymore. Look at Sony's conference, they made it clear what was exclusive, and what was timed exclusive, and what would simply release first on Playstation. They had no need for spin.

[LeCreuset]

This is probably Phil's biggest PR misstep since taking the helm. I don't know what he was thinking, believing even the idea that permanent Tomb Raider exclusivity would move the needle on Xbox sales, but yesterday's announcement clearly did nothing more than to get people talking about MS in the way they did prior to Phil taking over.

Now he's in a lose-lose situation where he has to pretty much flush the money they money-hatted, by acknowledging it's a timed exclusive. It turns down the heat on MS, but it opens up a new can of worms where people are going to turn a critical eye toward all of these third party "exclusives" on the One that are proving to be timed, and they're going to realize that games take time to make, first party studios time to build, and a system that was focused on taking over the living room has to rely on these kinds of deals to establish its library because you can't just magically create exclusives that did not exist the moment you see the writing on the wall and switch the PR spin to "games, games, games."

[XabiDaChosenOne]

I noticed that as well, good eye and good on Sony for being honest.

[Manic2014]

To be fair that was the one game in the conference which was not confirmed to be Timed. For every other game or feature they stated something like "Coming first to xbox one"

But i agree with TR, they should of been way clear at the start. .

[Manic2014]

To be fair, RoTR was the one game which was not confirmed Timed. The rest of the games were clarified if they were timed.

[DLConspiracy]

I didn't like how it was spun but people forget how Sony has spun their exclusivity with Destiny and watch Dogs. Most people don't even know its on the other console.

Not glorifying this exclusivity wording by any means BTW. I just don't like when people act like Sony isn't fully capable of spinning exclusivity or doesn't commit to the same type of exclusivity deals. People seem to be OK with Sony's exclusivity stuff even if its a year long. Just not when MS does it. Both these companies and those pub/devs that support it are greedy for it.

In the end the pubs/devs cash the check for any exclusivity.

[Mr-Dude]

I will buy it used then... If they can afford to piss of 75% of their fanbase (PS4 & PC), they can afford to lose money to the second hand market.

[Master-H]

Word!

[ruefrak]

Wait, does my PS3 stop working in 2015? Why can't new games come out for it as well?

[Ezz2013]

i want to know too
ps3 owners have every right to play new games as well

[bigboirock]

I wanna play new games on my Super Nintendo but that won't happen ether

[madjedi]

Because it along with the 360 are both relics that have been holding game development back and both gamers and developers want to move forward.

I am greedy i don't want my current gen games, continuously dumbed down because of a minority of last gen owners refuse to upgrade.

You'll likely still get some sports and lego type games on ps3 in 2015 and maybe the few jrpgs.

It's been 8 yrs, most of us feel the generation dragged too long as is, either you upgrade to current gen or your sol when devs switch strictly to ps4\xb1\pc development.

Not sure why you believe you have a right to or are entitled to new games on hardware that is well past it's prime.

The sooner cross gen development is dead and buried the better.

Cross gen in holiday 2015, that is the most hysterical thing about this whole shit storm.

[headwing45]

I'm pretty sure everyone saw this coming, no company would be stupid enough to deny a 200% sales loss.

[mkis007]

@ bledsoe

That is being published by sony.

[madjedi]

Isn't bloodborn basically supposed to be demons souls 2?

[Malphite]

There we have it.

It's not a big deal then. Just the typical timed exclusive shenanigans that are all over the place nowadays.

[Magicite]

I knew Square Enix wont upset their fans...at least not that much :)

[mcarsehat]

Cue the people saying:

"yaay, it's not exclusive but i wasn't ever interested in the game anyway."

[fermcr]

"yaay, it's not exclusive but I wasn't ever interested in the game anyway.""

^^
THIS. LOL.

[Major_Glitch]

Yaay, it's not exclusive but I wasn't ever interested in the game anyway.

Actually. I was somewhat interested in the game, but now? No. I think I'm gonna pass. IMHO, this was a dumb move by Square, and I will show my displeasure with my wallet.
BTW: did anyone actually believe that this wasn't going to be a timed exclusive? It's Microsoft! They're the kings of timed/fake exclusives.

[GW212]

Yay, it's not exclusive. Now we can move on. I was interested in this game and I still am. Now the choice will be whether I get it on my XB1 or PS4.

[mcarsehat]

Major_Glitch

That decision makes you out to be worse than those people.

[ziggurcat]

@mcarsehat

how is voting with your wallet worse than saying you were never interested in the game anyway? if he was interested in the game when it was announced at E3, then changed his mind because of the very poor decision to initially exclude the majority of the people who bought their first TR game (PS4 outsold the xbone version 2:1, just to remind you), i don't see how it's "worse" than downplaying the game for the sake of downplaying.

he's just exercising his rights as a consumer in deciding who gets his money.

[quaneylfc]

ziggurcat

How is Major_Glitch "deciding with his wallet" when he actually really really and i mean really said:
"Actually. I was somewhat interested in the game, but now? No."?

Isn't he doing exactly what mcarshat said he would do?

The best way to go against someone is to do what they say and say you're not doing it, people are just thick now.

[ziggurcat]

@quan:

no.

he's saying he was interested in the game, and the money hatting changed his mind. so, rather than support those shady practices, he's saying, "no!" he's voting with his wallet by... wait for it... *not buying the game*.

for the record, i'm still interested in this game, and i'm most likely still going to buy it when it comes out because i enjoy playing games, and the last TR was such an amazing experience.

i could also tell by the way they kept phrasing it that it was only timed, so i wasn't too worried about whether it was still multiplatform.

[kenshiro100]

One has to wonder what the heck Microsoft is smoking these days.

I knew it was timed.

[RevXM]

They they have been smoking the joint of pretend exclusives for a while and it is still oozing.

Hopefully Ms will be upfront and clear about "exclusives" from now on, covering shit up to try make more money by decieving us is why people get upset. I suspected this as this sort of thing have been regular practice for MS, but if it were actually exclusive like MS paraded I wouldn't have a problem with them but now I'm sort of pissed at all ends of this; SE, CD and Ms covering up and lie about this dirty deal.

MS need more exclusives so it could have been a good thing hadn't it been a lie. Lies hurt, but exclusives move units. This is all bad, its hurting them all.

[ajax17]

I'm just going to write this off as a delay to polish the PS4 version, which will most likely run a lot smoother.

[esemce]

I also said it would be timed, do I get a cookie ?

It's the same old MS bullsh1t, basically they have paid Crystal Dynamics to delay the games release for other platforms in the hope that people will be desperate to play the new tombraider and buy an Xbone.

I was tempted to get one for HAlo collection and Forza but now I'm like forget it same with the tombraider game.

[gemini2]

seriously cboat is fraud give it a rest already...who cares if timed probaly like 6 mths so i can play it first on XB1 while everyone waits good for multi console owners bad for ps4 only owners it's business is sony had secured it you all would be praising em listen ur not entitled to anything smh

[colonel179]

That's something I wrote yesterday. The same thing happened with Bioshock, Mass Effect and Ninja Gaiden 2. With Microsoft, the word EXCLUSIVE never means exclusive. They use that word, but they seem to never know what that means, and they only deceive people.

However, I don't get why they are doing this game cross-gen. That has to be part of the negotiation with Microsoft. They might have asked Crystal Dynamics/SE to also bring it to the 360. What a shame if it is indeed cross gen.

[jetlian]

Not really,maybe they have clauses which makes it hard to classify.

Those 3 series plus TF all sold 1-2 million. Which MS wasn't willing to hold onto.

Gears sold 3 million plus opening week and they never lost it.

[sonic989]

personally i think the only person who is classy here is phil spencer true class , he knew gamers were mad at microsoft so he gave people a reason to own an xbox and to calm down the others by stating that the game will come to their system later on .
i respect this guy even though i dont like the xbox brand and i HATE microsoft .

[mediate-this]

Anybody could guess it was a timed exclusive, a 3rd party game like that, plus shunnning the ps fans is not cool, squeenix will make their money then it will release to the ten plus mill ps4's, i personally think bloodborne over shadowed tombraider, not sure the hype for tomb raider.

[AceBlazer13]

If it's gonna cost anything more than $40 I ain't getting it. Definitely not gonna drop $60 on a game another console got months before me.

Whose with me? Time to get rid of this timed bs.

[Aceman18]

It was fairly obvious to me that it's timed. It's the reason I wasn't bothered by this news yesterday lol.

Liked I said yesterday I'm a patient person, and you know when it launches it will have everything and probably some extra to appease the few who were upset.

[FanboyKilla]

Lmfao you guys are f n sour. I will be a man and tell you, if the system i did not own had this exclusive timed or not, i would be broken hearted. I know how you really feel. Its in our nature, when hurt, we get angry, and want to hurt back. Lol you aint fooling me with your downplay, and fake hype about a game available to you. Its f n tomb raider. Iconic, legendary, returned to its throne with its last installment.

Instead of a hand shake, and a good game bro. You crying like a BIAITCH. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and keep it moving. Have some respect for yourself and stop giving it all to some f n company or machine. SMFH

Did your cosole of choice not give you anything better to talk about, or be excited for?Obviously not. You talking about what you wont be playing. You got better issues to focus your attention on. Like, what is this company that i defend, and wave their flag, actually doing for me? Taking your frustrations out on the wrong people PLAYSTATION NATION.

[Jonny5isalive]

third party companies today are sad sad creatures. Devs and publishers from all sides turning their backs in some form on large parts of the fanbase left and right for lumps of money because they are scared they cant sell their game. Then they wonder why their game doesnt sell 10 million when they piss off half or more of the fanbase.

[TheSaint]

Timed exclusive for the loss.

[iamnsuperman]

Well that clears things up. Just a matter of when now.

Edit: I can only assume until/after holiday 2015 is over as that is the line everyone involved has been using.

[Volkama]

I will probably wait however long it takes, plus an extra 8-12 months, and then pick up the PC version for a tenner. The previous game did a good job of taking advantage of the extra power so I am hoping for more of that!

Hopefully we can all move on and talk about some of the other stuff going on at the event.

[SniperControl]

Same here, i picked TR up in a Steam sale for a fiver about 6 months ago, rise will be the same.

[Manic2014]

Seems to me MS helped with financials of Crystal and SE and in return asked for timed exclusivity.

[Manic2014]

Not saying it was a good thing. "Seems to me MS helped with financials of Crystal and SE"

That was me being delicate.

[tgunzz]

Both MS/Sony are lobbying for here first/here only content. Sony has landed some timed exclusives as well (with one partial full exclusive in japan which is destiny). Are we to believe that they are not cashing in heavily for this, and other things?? Money is at the end of all investments, and both are in full motion with this. But responding the way we are: sending hate mail, crucifying companies over video games, showing disdain for fellow gamers, etc, etc is gamings bad practice. This is horrible...

[Catoplepas]

Only the terminally stupid didn't see this coming.

[JoGam]

Then it must be a lot of stupid people out there. They were everywhere yesterday.

[Catoplepas]

Precisely my point, though I contend that most of that was just fanboy posturing. Most people blessed with an iota of rationality knew that the exclusivity would be ephemeral at best.

[MightyNoX]

You really can't blame them with the clown car consisting of Aaron Greenberg and Larry touting "100% exclusive, positively ONLY on XBAWKS" on Twitter.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

dont forget all the Fanboys crying and moaning about it being exclusive, and how they were betrayed and whatnot.

[DashArrivals]

That's just plain false. There were many articles and industry gaming media claiming it was legit. No one is a fool for believing a boat load of misinformation and peculiarly worded sentence puzzles with hidden meanings.

[Catoplepas]

Not if the people in question have a modicum of retrospection. The 3rd party exclusive has been oft touted by MS, but seldom do they stay that way.

[rainslacker]

SE blog did most of that honestly. They said it was only coming to the Xbox line. Until that blog, most people were assuming it was timed. I saw the Greenburg tweet, and thought people had maybe misinterpreted it, never saw the Larry Hybb post though...must have gotten lost in the fray.

I knew it would come out eventually on other systems. But there are timed exclusives which take years to show up on other systems, Like BioShock or Mass Effect.

[lonelyplayer]

This guy is a decent person. That's something hard to find at Microsoft.

[Mr-Dude]

Well, Spencer is the only one there who tries to be honest to every gamer including the PS ones. It's that douche Greenberg & Nelson who stur the pot the most

[TheFallenAngel]

If I get a xbone in the near future it would be because of him. He comes out and is straight with people. Greenberg lied about it yesterday. I really don't like major Nelson. But Phil seems to be the only guy at xbox that is not afraid of saying the truth. Respect Mr Spencer.

[Benjammin25]

If he was a decent person, he would have told the truth from the beginning.

[DigitalRaptor]

Phil Spencer. What a guy.

Truly Microsoft Xbox's one redeeming factor. This should have been clarified at their conference, because NOW, the rest of their lineup was overshadowed by the controversy. Very dishonest.

I told people Aaron Greenberg isn't to be trusted, and this proves it.

[Silly gameAr]

Isn't Spencer the one that made this deal in the first place?

[BLow]

Thank you. I know people like this guy but if you think be wasn't part of this then your in denial. He didn't realize this was going to be said during the conference? He found this out when we did? Come on people wake up. Now he's the hero...classic

[majorkilljoy]

Phil is awesome

[DeadlyOreo]

He's no Gabe Newell. Lol.

[G20WLY]

Gabe is twice the man Phil is... ;^P

[Dudebro90]

Oh look, just how a majority of people said.

Now everyone can calm down and stop with the childish threats and comments

[LethalButterfly]

Have to hand it to him for the clarification, however crystal dynamics done themselves no favours with this mess at all.

[Eonjay]

Actually it was Aaron Greensburg who did the most damage. He went out of his way to deny what Phil confirmed. Aaron was trying to build a narrative that didn't exist. Why can't folks be honest.

[LethalButterfly]

totally agree.. he is like the yoko ono of the gaming industry..

[madjedi]

Actually crystal dynamics is unfairly getting attacked by upset tr fans, they have jack and shit say in regards to what systems it is or isn't coming out on.

Unfortunately they are likely receiving the lion's share the ire from fans, that should actually be redirected elsewhere.

Except for the darryl guy, that posted that insulting pr bullshit. Don't piss on a person's leg and tell them it's raining.

For all the xbox fanboys accusing sony fans of hypocrisy, look in the mirror if the situation was reversed you xbox guys would be reacting in essentially the same way.

[torchic]

well, Square Enix & Crystal Dynamics pissed MANY people off. they burned a crapload of bridges that unfortunately may never be built again regarding this game only.

what a mess! hope other studios/publishers learn from their mistake!

[chrissx]

Rise of Tomb Raider : Definitive Edition Confirmed for Ps4

[JoGam]

In full glorious 1080 60fps.

[PlayableGamez]

60 frames when you look in the sky...

[thejigisup]

It's gonna have exclusive content such as better boob physics, unreleased dlc chapters featuring Nathan drake and sully skins.

But in all honesty in this is absolutely obnoxious. A definitive version just me that xb1 owners will gloat and continue to do so until the definitive version launches.

[Melankolis]

Don't expect too much...

I won't be surprised if the PS4 version will look less beautiful than X1's.

This is a game supported by MS after all...and SE, you know what they've been doing...

[BattleTorn]

Well seeing as that hasn't been the case a asingle multiplat yet - I doubt it.

If anything they have more time to make it look/run better

[XtraTrstrL]

LOL, I knew this was a possibility. They've done this in the past, calling a timed-exclusive an exclusive.

[Dudebro90]

They said exclusive for holiday 2015.

And that's what it is.

Grow up.

[DashArrivals]

He purposely mislead everyone and let it go on for far too long as far as I'm concerned. He could have worded it differently but chose not to, it's only after all the internet rage that he has realised it probably wasn't a good idea to just keep it floating around out there with no one knowing.

[XtraTrstrL]

You seriously don't see what's wrong with the way they presented it? I don't see what was immature or non-grown up about my comment. If anything, they need to grow up and just be honest, in this age of information, things get found out in hours-days. It was pointless to even cause the confusion to begin with.

[MRMagoo123]

Yet all the xbone fans said it would never come to ps4 and MS did a good thing lol now it's not exclusive like we all knew you guys change your tune.

[DigitalRaptor]

Phil (who is a part of Microsoft, and head of Xbox) let the Internet grab hold of the notion that it's "exclusive to Xbox One" and didn't clarify it so people will now be running around kidding both themselves and others that it's a permanent Xbox-defining exclusive.

He let employees like Aaron Greenberg convince others that it was an actual exclusive. I respect Phil, but this should have been announced at the conference, and now people everywhere will use it as troll bait and ways to spread their agendas using misinformation. And when you tell people who are convinced it's an exclusive that it's not, they will laugh your arguments off because they have already been convinced in their mind.

All we wanted was some honesty - not smoke and mirrors BS that Microsoft is infamous for.

[kenshiro100]

How about you grow up?

They misled people. They should have made it clear it was timed from the beginning. I bet none of you MS fans even cared about Tomb Raider before Microsoft pulled this dumb PR stunt over exclusivity.

Funny how that tune changed huh?

[TheSaint]

You need to grow up if you're that naive.

[hello12]

I even said this yesterday Microsoft will likely clarify if it was timed or not in the next few hours or days. Oddly enough i got a lot of disagrees, for saying this (N4G!) Phil Spencer is a honest guy he doesn't lie if asked a direct question on a subject.

[skoorydook]

Just a selection of highlights from the views of KNWS regarding the chances of TR coming to PS4, not really what he claims here, even if he did at some point that makes him a total hypocritical little fanboy instead of just a lying twat.

What does it mean, is this a trick question? I remember when Titanfall was announced. Sony fans predicted that game would end up on PS4 eventually. Never happened. Same thing here. Move on Sony fans the devs don't owe you anything.

Sony fans just need to get over it and deal with it. Stop acting like spoilt children.

You can include Titanfall Ryse and Dead rising in that. PC it will happen.

Microsoft co developed this game. Reducing the costs for the studio to get the game out there. Sony didn't pay a dime so your not entitled to play it.

Sony fans seem very upset! Sorry if this was a exclusive for PS4 you guys would be slagging x box fans off. Microsoft is a business they aren't in to make friends. They care about x box gamers and want to bring more games for people who bought their console. Get over it. Exclusivity exists and its very unlikely this game will end up on PS4. Microsoft renowned focus on PC likely means this game will end up on PC

According to Darrell Gallagher Crystal Dynamics Head of Studios it was co development game with Microsoft. So Microsoft funded development. So its not a shock than its an xb1 exclusive. PS4 version wasn't going to happen.

Yes matey this was all said from you, back in your hole

[SoulWarrior]

Hahaha brilliant lol

[Kayant]

Yesterday -

"This has been debunked. Nothing that will appear on N4G will change that.

Read the statement from the devs. Ps4 is not going to see this game. Reaction from Sony fans is what is annoying me, because we know for a fact. You guys would be negative to x box 1 if this game was a PS4 exclusive."

http://n4g.com/news/1565804...

"I hope its timed so i don't have to continue reading this. Microsoft is awful,x box 1 sucks. Be better on Playstation so and so on."

http://n4g.com/news/1566064...

You sure love to chat a lot of BS and rewrite history don't you.... Lmaoooo

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

[ziggurcat]

to be fair, kayant, he did say this:

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

[LethalButterfly]

Well said, as for the silly disagree's !!might be you avatar. i have the same problem sometimes :)

[DigitalRaptor]

Hahaha, KWNS.

You've just been EXPOSED. Just like MrXmedia was exposed the other day ( http://www.dollmytee.com/20... )

You are a liar and you move the goalposts when you can see that it's not going to benefit you or your Xbox agenda in the end.

You did the exact same thing when Phil came out and clarified that DirectX12 would not have a significant impact on Xbone, by saying something different and pretending that you never 'bigged up' DX12 as a differentiator for the console in the first place. The N4G comment history does not lie. Sadly, you do.

[DollMytee]

Well this is certainly a pleasure. I saw traffic coming from N4G. MisterXmedia and his select merry band of devoted wonder-tards informed me that no one reads my site and I am just part of the FUD spreading SDF. Haha.

Nevertheless. Thanks for the mention an glad people get to see that post. He was caught red handed. Quite the fun day. :)

[GW212]

Bahahaha, I hadn't seen that but that is awesome. Well done DollMytee. I knew the insiders on his site were either him or his minions. As Doll said, the insider and he had far too many similarities related to grammar and spelling mistakes as well as punctuation and sentence structure.

I wonder who on N4G is him. I know he had an account at one time. I'm sure he has one now and posts as someone else or just lurks.

I'd actually like to meet this guy. I need to meet the person that spends so much time pretending to be someone else who doesn't work in Hollywood.

[MRMagoo123]

You dollmytee are a super hero detective like batman ...........batman I say

I did a little digging myself and found that your email address dollmytee is the exact same email address as batman..which means you are batman.

[rainslacker]

If there is any consolation, yesterday he did have 3 bubbles. By midnight yesterday...Eastern Standard Time...he was down to 1.

The nice thing about KWNS when he has one bubble, is that he does actually start making real arguments, that sometimes are quite interesting.

[DarXyde]

You said nothing any sensible person wasn't already saying. Heck, I said their wording was painfully specific yesterday.

[Gore-Content]

BANG! KABOOM! WHOOOOSHHHHHH!!

[G_V_Black]

A delayed release suits me just fine. I'm really looking forward to playing Rise of the Tomb Raider and Uncharted 4, but would prefer not to do so simultaneously.

[Letros]

So PC in 2016.

[BVFTW]

PC ver it is ^_^

[christocolus]

The reboot was a great game im hoping this one delivers on all fronts also holliday 2015 is actuallly packed full and the game will also be going up against Halo5. That aint a fair fight Lol. will be interesting to watch though.

[TheFallenAngel]

Hahahaha this "exclusively" thing needs to stop.

[JoGam]

It will never stop.

[hooba93]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I know they have deep pockets, but the millions that they probably spent on having this "exclusive", it could've went towards a new IP.

I thought MS would change this gen from all the timed exclusive games from last gen but I guess not

[wodan]

What is the point of the deal? TR is not that big in term of sales,i doubt it will rise the Xbone sales that much.

[kenshiro100]

No point...just Microsoft wasting money as usual. But wait, I heard they were made of cash so...I guess this isn't a very big deal. /s

[rainslacker]

If they didn't have to quell the hate storm, they could have rode out this exclusive thing until it released, which depending on how much hype the game was getting could have moved more systems. That's really the only reason to buy a timed exclusive. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

With Titanfall, for example, it was one of the most hyped games after E3. With the exclusive deal, one would think that it would push a ton of X1 consoles. But it failed to really do that. It did cause them to spike some, but the only people that cared about it after it became exclusive were those that predominately already owned an X1.

With TR, it hasn't been a system seller in a long time. It typically does OK, and the last one sold well and was a fantastic game. But the game itself didn't really have the legs to make people be giddy for the next one. It is the kind of game you play just because it's Tomb Raider, but for most it's just not a must have at launch game.

Honestly, I think MS misjudged the value of the TR brand when it comes to pushing consoles. It may have made more sense in the PS1 days when the franchise hadn't been taken through the ringer and back, and it was still relatively fresh. Now it's just another cover shooter with some adventure elements thrown in, and while really well done, doesn't do anything that any number of other games do.

[DashArrivals]

THE REASON, why Playstation and PC fans acted the way they did, was because EVERYONE thought this game was coming out for everyone... I actually pre-ordered the game from a website for PS4. This isn't some new IP that no one knows anything about, or some game from a 1st party studio. This was EVERYONE'S game, from when we first heard about it ages ago, saw a video trailer or clip from it... it was everyone's and then, we were lead to believe it was YANKED out of our hands and we could NEVER play it EVER...... that's why we all acted like irrational idiots... and it was deserving and screw Microsoft, I just hate them so much. I wanted an Xbox to go with all my other consoles, but I'm so sick of them that I will now NEVER, and I mean NEVER buy an Xbox 1 and I don't care what games they get.

[Salooh]

I wouldn't say ''irrational idiots'' . More like angry and mislead and it's reasonable . Their fault. They shouldn't say words they can't handle.

But still , as i said before , i will enjoy it more if it comes before Uncharted. After that , this game will be a normal experience. Won't be as fun.

[BVFTW]

I'm glad that we can choose in which platform we can play the game, there wasn't a real reason to be mad after all as every platform has had an exclusivity deal before (Resident evil 0 for example), this gen PS only gamers sure has their lines filled with rage filled fanboys that would like for a publisher to go under if it doesn't cater to their platform of choice, I haven't seen much outcry in the xbox court for the apparent console exclusiveness of "silent hills" or "no man skies", some people need to find better causes to champion besides corporate loyalty ¬_¬

[MasterCornholio]

"THE REASON, why Playstation and PC fans acted the way they did, was because EVERYONE thought this game was coming out for everyone."

Bingo.

I thought the game would come to the PS4 because the first one was released on PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PC, PS3 and PS4. Plus I bought the definitive edition on the PS4 and I enjoyed it. That's why I was angry at the thought of it being a permanent exclusive especially after I enjoyed the first one.

I'm glad that Phil confirmed that the game will come to other platforms later hopefully it isn't a year later but much sooner.

P.S Also the sites making it seem like a permanent exclusive need to stop fabricating BS like this.

[LeCreuset]

And that reaction right there is why Phil decided to end this little charade.

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

LMFAO!!!! Typical Micro$oft SMH

[Tru_Ray]

We can add this one to the list of their innumerable PR blunders.

When are they going to learn that the hardcore gaming community does not like to be jerked around?

They would have been much better off saying that it was a timed exclusive from the beginning. Now they have alienated more potential buyers of their console.

What kind of crack are they smoking up in Redmond?

Tru_

[rainslacker]

Well, there are some stupid people in the hardcore gaming community.

However, it would help if companies in general would realize there are smart people within the hardcore gaming community that can and will point out BS in a heartbeat.

[mezati99]

so it's official. i'll wait for definitive edition on PS4 or PC!

[thricetold]

Make sure you buy it USED people! Buy it USED BUY it USED BUY it USED BUY it USED BUY it USED BUY it USED

You all get the point, they should feel this decision in their pockets and should not benefit at all, doesn't benefit us gamers at all.

[Jeff257]

The only way someone could buy it used is if someone had already bought it new and traded it in, Really it makes no sense to always say buy it used. You could buy it when it is seriously discounted. Me I just don't like how it was handled especially by Crystal Dynamics and their tumblr post. But now that I know it is timed I can be patient and wait for it to come out on my platform of choice. If it is better than the reboot it will be well worth my time and money and hopefully as long as they can continue to make it a quality game they should continue the franchise. That will take money from the fans and if you are a fan of TR then you should want them to do well. They just need to learn how to treat the fans better.

[Toiletsteak]

I am glad Phil Spencer has confirmed it is a timed exclusive now everyone can stop the hate and attacking the voice actress on Twitter, even though she has no say over what they do with the game.

[Lannister]

LMAO !!! That happened ???

[Jdoki]

Unbelievably, yes it did!

She posted a statement on Twitter basically saying, I'm a voice actress, I have no say on which platform it gets released.

Some people's behaviour is unbelievable. I heard that some of the devs received threats over Twitter / Tumblr too. As if they also have a say in what deals SE make!!

[Stryfeno2]

I will be playing this on day one.

[Grave]

Day one when it comes out on Steam.

[Salooh]

Why didn't they say First on Xbox. Why exclusive -.- ...

[JoGam]

Because they need every inch to gain a mile.

I just remembered Sony saying first on sony a few times. I appreciate them doing that even more now.

[Tru_Ray]

This is just further evidence that Sony's PR department is leagues ahead of Microsoft's when it comes to messaging. Sony KNOWS that the hardcore gaming community scrutinizes every PR statement and spends countless hours making inferences based on said statements. This is why they made a point to explicitly define all of their exclusive deals.

Microsoft, on the other hand, likes to obfuscate their agendas with ambiguous statements. They really seem to underestimate the intelligence of the hardcore crowd that watches these media briefings. It is important to earn our trust because we are the "opinion leaders" in their target demographic.

You would think that they would have learned their lesson by now...

Tru_

[Jdoki]

I suspect it's because nothing said so far by SquareEnix to indicate which other platforms (if any) TR is coming to.

MS were obviously very liberal with the truth - but hardly surprising. The console wars are fought over small margins, so if MS (or Sony) think they can blindside gamers they will. However, props to Sony for making it clear (as far as I could see) which games were multi-plat, exclusive and 'coming first on PS'

[DollMytee]

I agree with you 100%, but lets not pretend for a second that Sony is innocent of this sort of stuff too. They have absolutely done it in the past.

I don't which company is doing it though. I just want the shit to stop.

Why not say "Play it 6 months before any other system when you buy it for Xbox One" BOOM. Done. Honest and not some BS misleading line.

Fuck I hate the deliberately deceptive wording that MS and Sony do!

[BitbyDeath]

Stop bringing up the past, you didn't even provide examples just had to throw in a Sony TOO statement to deflect the stupid stunt MS pulled.

Shame.

[BitbyDeath]

Dbl Post.

[Kayant]

Like with every other AAA timed title (TF before the deal), Ryse, DR3 they are trying to blur the truth as much as possible.

[Tedakin]

They said Exclusive on Xbox in 2015, which is true.

[Artista]

Can you all calm down now? There will be many more stunts like this in future, so brace yourselves.

[Speak_da_Truth]

Ok thanx for the Clarification Phil As for CD and SE I'll buy this game used or I'll rent it you never see my $$$$ Sucka!!! You lose...... that's only if they ever port it to Ps4.

[strangeaeon]

If you read the interview, Spencer never really confirmed this nor did he ever utter the word "duration". He said that all he can talk about is the deal that he has with CD and Square.

[NihonjinChick]

"Yes, the deal has a duration. I didn't buy it. I don't own the franchise."

From the article.

[strangeaeon]

Crap, sorry didn't see that part, was not trying to spread fud. In the end it's better for everyone to be able to play it. I would rather have a true exclusive anyway.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Obviously quotes like these:
"Obviously the deal does have a duration. I didn't buy the IP in perpetuity."
from the article itself flew way over your head.

[DarkLord1003]

Multiplat February 2016 - you read it here first

[BLow]

Actually I mentioned that in another of the hundreds of articles on this topic. But hey, I knew all along it was timed. This "exclusive" is just for 2015 like they said. Well, at least I'm not the only one who thought this as well. Have to think outside the box...haha

[Pikminmaniac]

Actually I'm hoping May 2016. Look how many games so far have been pushed into early 2016- Evolve, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, Order 1886 to name a few. Hopefully it will release in May to kick off an early Summer for PS4/PC. Assuming there won't be a bunch of highly anticipating titles around that time either.

[Jeff257]

All the game you mentioned are early 2015 not early 2016.

[VP37]

So let me get this straight. First people are freaking out and calling MS & SE every name in the book, now, Phil says it's a timed exclusive and the same people are saying MS is stupid. *SMH*

I watched both conferences yesterday, and I heard the word exclusive a lot in both presentations. I would say that about 90% of those exclusives are timed on both sides.

[Christopher]

Actually, Sony made it exactly clear which games were exclusive and which were timed. It was nice.

It still sucks that so much of the business is tied to exclusivity (timed or otherwise), but it's at least something when they can tell you straight up what is what without any confusion.

[VP37]

I disagree...I did not hear Sony making things crystal clear when it came to exclusives. I heard a lot of word-play and I never heard the word "Timed".

Take Destiny for example; Before the BETA, Sony talked about Destiny like it was only coming to Playstation. Gamescom is the first time they've used the words "Coming to Playstation first" in regards to Destiny.

It's just funny how they both do the same things, but it's OK when Sony does it. I get it though, it's cool to hate MS these days.

[kurruptor]

@VP37,

Why would Sony mention that Destiny will be on Xbox? They aren't going to give MS free advertisement.

They never said Destiny was exclusive.

Not mentioning the other company isn't the same thing as saying it is exclusive.

[DarXyde]

Actually, I think Sony was much more upfront about it. When it was timed, they came out and said "coming first to PlayStation". Doesn't leave much to the imagination.
"Coming exclusively in 2015 to XBOX" is much more ambiguous. That could literally mean it's coming to XBOX exclusively, due 2015 (lifetime exclusive, coming 2015) or it will only be available on XBOX in 2015, next year for other platforms (timed, confirmed).

[DirtyMagician]

This still isn't clear, to me, I read this as 3 possible outcomes:

1) It is timed and will come out on PC only after it ends.
2) It is timed and will come out on PS4 and PC after it ends.
3) The deal is for this game only and the sequel is free to come out on every platform.

Only way I will buy into this is if they have definitive versions with all the DLC only on PS4 and PC. It's a long shot on that though.

[strangeaeon]

I don't get why everyone is saying that Spencer confirmed anything, it could be any of the outcomes that you stated.

[Jdoki]

Yup. That's how I read it too.

Until SquareEnix confirms IF they are going to release it on PS4 and/or PC and/or PS3 - we really don't know anything more than yesterday.

Worst case scenario (for PS and PC owners)... The deal is exclusive to this game, and MS renew the deal for the next sequel (assuming it's successful).

Best case scenario (for all gamers)... SE announce TR will be coming to PS4 / PC / PS3 a short time after the XB1 / 360 launch.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Are you people drunk?
"Obviously the deal does have a duration. I didn't buy the IP in perpetuity."
"Yes, the deal has a duration. I didn't buy it. I don't own the franchise."
confirmed twice in the same article, what article are you guys reading?
Try to finish the article all the way through next time guys.

[DirtyMagician]

Your point being?

Yes he doesn't own the IP, he doesn't own the Dead Rising IP and still got DR3 exclusive.

[Jdoki]

Lol. Reading comprehension FTW! Well done Xabi.

So...

What's to stop MS / SE renewing the deal once the current one ends?

What's the length of the current exclusivity deal? Do you know Xabi?

Do we know if it extends to the whole lifetime of the new game? Do we know if it is just for a couple of months past launch date?

Seems all we know is that the current deal isn't 'forever', and we can't get even a tiny clue from what Phil stated.

Has anyone confirmed development of the title on other platforms?

No. Not yet.

Do we know when those not-confirmed-other-releases will be launched? I don't think we do, do we??

So, which part of what me, strangeaeon or confudddd are you having a problem with?

And which part of what Phil said confirms whatever underlying point it was you were trying to make in your last post?

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Oh....okay...I thought you guys were trolling but your serious.
@confuddled
Its really simple buddy, first of all the exclusivity is not what's in question, the duration is.
His comments confirms that your first two "conclusions" in your original post are the only viable ones.
@Jdoki
-Microsoft having to pay for the sales of 2/3(minimum)of CDs fanbase
- "What's the length of the current exclusivity deal? Do you know Xabi?"
Did I ever claim I did?
-"Do we know if it extends to the whole lifetime of the new game?" If it did Spencer would have made that clear instead of stating that it has a duration. So we can safely conclude that its a no.
- If the exclusive is only an exclusive for a duration of time it is completely logical to conclude that it is indeed in the works for other platforms.
Reading helps.

[Jdoki]

Wow Xabi.

I guess you can convince yourself of anything.

On one hand you have some people speculating based on the known facts. Then there's you, making fact out of speculation.

-"Do we know if it extends to the whole lifetime of the new game?" If it did Spencer would have made that clear instead of stating that it has a duration. So we can safely conclude that its a no.

- If the exclusive is only an exclusive for a duration of time it is completely logical to conclude that it is indeed in the works for other platforms.

It's only logical based on the logic you've created for yourself!

Why would Spencer make it clear? MS already muddied the waters which is why we're speculating in the first place.

The crazy thing is it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the next TR comes to PS4 and PC - it probably will... But right now, as of this moment, with the information presented, we: 1) Do not know the duration of the deal. 2) Do not know if MS will extend, renew or cut a brand new deal at a later date, 3) What SE's plans are for this game.

[Jdoki]

The big news from this (for me) is that the new TR is cross gen - I didn't know that

That's a bit disappointing.

[NemesisTheGod]

The game isn't timed exclusive he's just making the same statement he made when Titanfall came out meaning if they make a TR3 it can be on whatever console Square choose to release it on. The words "Holiday 2015" is used because the game is in development & doesn't have a release date, get over it...

[stripe814]

xbox one - december 2015
ps4 & pc - january 2016

i think they want to have a good holiday bundle with this and they want to secure xmas sales with this game

[XxGrim_Reaper05Xx]

C'mon MS, invest in creating new IPs instead of wasting money on timed exclusivity.

[squeezx]

Yay! Good news! But it should have never been made as a timed exclusive.

[NemesisTheGod]

Marketing 101 if a product was ever coming out, the developer wouldn't write a statement deferring potential buyers to another product, you never take emphasis off the item your immediately talking about. Stop trying to give hope & manipulate people's words to stir up confusion.

[Christopher]

Marketing 101: Don't treat your customer base like idiots by attempting to lie to them when a precedent for what you are doing has been set and they will likely know you are lying.

[Rob_Ko]

when sony announce a game, they always say is it exclusive, or "console exclusive" "first on playstation" etc.
Microsoft always lie and say it's and exclusive game, just like they lied about Ryse and Dead Rising 3

[Ko_Uraki]

MS basically confirms that they don't own the IP. It still remains a terrific deal

[HappyWithOneBubble]

Still don't make it better to me. I don't have a problem with timed exclusive DLC cause I rarely buy it but timed exclusive full games need to stop. This deal really don't help MS at all to me cause TR is not gonna beat UC4. How many people gonna buy XB1 for TR. I'm glad it is timed exclusive. It wouldn't be fair to millions of PS gamers if it wasn't.

[SaveFerris]

This could set a precedent for future Square Enix games. Imagine if MS paid for Final Fantasy XV and/or Kingdom Hearts 3 'exclusivity'?

[bleedsoe9mm]

so anywhere from 1 day after new year and 1 day before the end of the generation , why would anyone want to wait especially with other games like quantumm break and halo 5 out

[OiNioB]

At least now we know how immature certain fan bases can be towards game devs.

What a joke the gaming community has become.

[Christopher]

It's the Internet. 50% of the people on it obtain new levels of immature almost daily. And, let's not act like only certain fan bases are immature here. People on all sides are immature all the time.

[mysticwolf]

@Ares84HU: still too much after this if you ask me.

[Grave]

The only this did was really hurt the Tomb Raider fans and further tarnish Microsoft's already tainted image. They haven't been doing so well in the past 18 months when it comes to PR.

[khellendros1]

This is good news indeed, but I knew they wouldn't be stupid enough to leave out a larger fan base that they sold more on.

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

I'll wait for Rise of The Tomb Raider DE for PS4 in 1080p 60FPS. Oh yeah and a used copy for like 40 bucks. I bet Xbox fanboys feel so stupid.

[Underworld]

I thought it probably would eventually come to PS4/PC at first because of the way they kept phrasing it, but then got confused and wasn't sure because of Crystal Dynamics statement and Aaron Greenberg's response to Geoff Keighley's comment.

Why couldn't they just be clear about it from the start?

Happy to hear this.

[cfc83]

I wouldn't pay full price for this game. We will get gif spoilers and footage a plenty. Not good practice asking for 45 quid for a game that's technically been out for a while. I hope sony push for an uncharted trilogy.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

So there we go kids. You can all relax and cancel your online petitions there will be other versions of the game eventually, whenever that is.

[fadeawayjae]

MS should have stated "First On Xbox" like they do when they get ad on content first. Could have dodged this PR nightmare

[claudionmc]

just lol...

[Mr Marvel]

Not willing to say for how long... It's obviously not for very long then or he'd be bragging about it.
6 months tops would be my guess.

[ScorpiusX]

These fools at Xbox either need to go all out on Owning IPs and stop this BS funding for lame exclusivity Windows of IPs to only watch then go elsewhere. Tools

[Predaking77]

Damage is already done. I was hyped by this game but now I'm not and honestly I don't care if it even get to other platforms. The game is out of my anticipation list and I will not buy an xbone for this. Damage is already done.

[Majin-vegeta]

I told you guys.All you had to do was read between the lines.

[Skankinruby]

If Microsoft's pockets are as deep as people say they are why couldn't they just get a studio to make a new ip to directly compete with uncharted? This is why I've hated Microsoft gaming from day one, their tactics for competition are laughable. They dont wanna win the race they wanna pay off the dude waving the checkered flag to give them the trophy.

[ShadowWolf712]

That comes with being in a market where they haven't had serious competition for years.

That follows them into the game market and this crap happens.

[x_RadicalAura_x]

Great! I'll be buying it used, if I do at all. :)

[KontryBoy706]

Guess the Sigma edition with all DLC and "new content" will be on other platforms 2016. See you then Lara. Saves me money for the truck load of games coming next year anyways.

PS people don't be surprised. Tomb Raider has been a multiplatform game since 1996. No way it will stay exclusive to Xbox

[S2Killinit]

personally don't care. but its good to know that its coming to PS4 as well, for those who do care.

[MCTJim]

we go from from Holiday 2015, exclusively on xbox to its timed exclusive...so now its timed..ok..as long as it stops all these damn articles about Tomb Raider on this site, I will be happy. 18 artlcles about the same stupid thing.

[Soldierone]

However long the delay is, is how long I'll wait to buy it when it does release. If anything, it will hit a price drop by then :P

[DarXyde]

I can respect Phil Spencer's honesty on the matter, and this is why I like him. He's not being roundabout like Phil Harrison saying "coming exclusively in 2015 to XBOX" or Aaron Greenberg posting CD's "ambiguous" message on Tumblr. Thank you, Phil. I can wait for Tomb Raider since PlayStation 4's 2015 looks pretty hectic and I'll be busy. I'm definitely considering getting an XBOX One for Quantum Break and undoubtedly some more exclusives as they arrive. Microsoft as a whole has always been sketchy for me in different ways, but I want the company to know that Spencer is awesome and doing a great job.

And for anyone saying "Sony fans want the game now?! Typical Sony N4G"...go back into those articles and find the people who said that and call them out personally.I'm a [predominantly] PlayStation gamer and I don't appreciate being lumped in with hypocrites on any "side" of this ridiculous console war.

[ShadowWolf712]

So you respect Phil for finally telling the truth when backed into a corner by backlash when he could have easily said it was "coming FIRST to Xbox"? Lord knows Sony was very clear on that Gamescom stage about what was and was not timed exclusive or just premiering there first.

As for Phil, I don't respect him. He's a frat boy with a wardrobe right outta the late 80s who just put a shinier coat of paint on the same old Xbox Division.

[CaptainKhronic]

Preach!

I really can't stand his smug, punchable face.

[Pro_TactX]

Well that is good news. I was looking forward to playing it. I don't mind waiting a while longer.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Good to hear. Time exclusivity is a bit of a let down but us PC/PS4 gamers are still getting it. Personally wasn't planning on getting it release day so I can wait.

[SliceOfTruth888]

What moron needed confirmation on this? geez its like gamers have no memory.....it said exclusive to holiday 2015 you dopes

[LAWSON72]

Glad to hear Spencer be open about. It really sounds like Square did not want to market the game and MS did, so they made a deal where MS markets it for Xbone and Square pockets easy cash. Sadly the game is just a timed exclusive that really does not have any benefit from this deal as far the product goes goes so it is another day of partnership deals. I am glad a big deal happened liked this because when the Xbone owners complained they were entitled whiners and #dealwithit when they were complaining about how Destiny has exclusive content (some of which are not timed like maps). The fact is this is not a nice business practice that people should just accept.

There maybe more to though in some cases like higher budgets and better marketing for a potentially great game.

IMO the blame should be on Square they sold out just like every other major publisher who gives exclusitivity rights to the highest bidder.

Also WTH this game is last gen, come on.

[ironmonkey]

it must of been a wack of money to get that deal especially if the first one sold more on ps4. i think new ip's could have been better than just one game.

[UltraAtomic]

XD what fanboys !!!

[Dfooster]

Great. Well done Microsoft paying a fortune for this, causing a **** storm and then being forced to admit its a timed exclusive 24 hours later. At least we don't all have to run out and buy a **** box now. Not that we were going to anyway.

[Relientk77]

There you go, timed exclusive like everyone figured

[_LarZen_]

So we are all going to wait for the Definitive Edition for PC and PS4 then?

I'm ok with that.

[Azzanation]

Its funny to watch so many cry babies complain. I am a PC gamer and I knew this was timed. I would not have cared and will be getting a X1 and this game on release. After this news I now know where all the cry babies come from. If it was the other way around and being a PS exclusive I am sure other gamers wouldnt cry about it.

[LightDiego]

Don't be ridiculous, a lot of pc gamers were complaining too, but you are defending your side.
I don't care for Tomb Raider, i would buy a Xbox One for Halo, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break and Banjo, not for this overrated title.

[tlougotg]

Smh at the ppl really surprised at why Microsoft gets all this hate. You really have to ask that question? Their tactics have been very anti consumer and shady for years. RROD was pushed under a rug and they lied about the issue until forced to divulge info in court by gamers. They started this current gen with DRM and whole bunch of lies about how kinect had to come with xbone if not it wouldnt work. They refuse to put money into innovative first parties and get buddy buddy with regurgitated ips like COD. Dont get me wrong buisness is buisness and i dont dislike them for moneyhatting ips but the hate is there for a reason! All companies lie a times and make mistakes but damn Microsoft really takes it to another level.

[xxxGEOxxx]

Maybe this will be a positive for PS4 owners. Maybe between the release of the game, and the release of it on PS4, there will be downloadable content that will be included when it comes out for the PS. Or maybe, they will update the graphics like they did for the first definitive edition. I try to be optimistic.

[Akuma2K]

This is no big deal to me because the month of October alone will keep me busy with Evil Within, Alien Isolation and Driveclub until the PS4 version comes out.

If the PS4 version of Tombraider: Rise Of The Tombraider is anything like its predecessor Tombraider: The Definitive Edition, the game going to sell more copies than the Xbox One.

[Petebloodyonion]

1) What's the fuss about Tks Phil for clarifying things?
Heck it was a Pr spin and it was a good one. for 2 days the topics on all gaming medias was: Tomb Raiders exclusive.
Increasing the worth of the game and media coverage for MS.

2)Pc gamers are pissed?
Please explain: Did past Tomb raiders games were release on pc the same day? Answer is No!
Almost all versions of pc games were release AFTER the consoles versions (see previous PC version)so there's no reasons for the supposed legion of angry pc gamers.

3) It's wrong and unethical and a proof that MS is....
I just love how it's easy to scream at MS about using unethical tactics and how they are a cancer in this industry when it's okay (and praise) for the competition to do the same things.

4) Sony don't need TR cause they will have Uncharted 4 and will eclipse TR.
And that is why MS paid for a time exclusive for 2015 because given Sony's track record off 100% delaying major game they know that UC4 won't make it for 2015 thus putting the focus on Xbox for the crucial holiday seasons.

[Imalwaysright]

I knew it. Can't wait to play this on my PC.

[gamer7804]

Both Hellblade and Tombraider are timed exclusives. No confirmed date but they will be coming out on both consoles.

[Kingoftherodeo]

time and time again people try to downplay timed exclusives. you get to play the game before those other guys. ps4 is living up to its greatness awaits seems like you have to also wait on games.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

I am on the lucky side though. I don't pay the full price for games. I wait for the games to go on sale. I can do that because I still have so many games to play on various consoles.

There I will be happy enough to get the game cheaper once it is released on PS4 ^^

[turdburgler1080]

The collective buttholes of Sony fans everywhere unclench.

[bigtrucknd]

Just imagine the games Microsoft could make if they didn't waste money on timed exclusives. Getting a map or game first isn't going to get me to buy another console.

[carlocgc]

1 year exclusivity isn't really exclusivity

[josephayal]

Sorry but I'm Not Buying It, deal with it

[MultiConsoleGamer]

No.

[Genki]

Called it. Third party exclusives are, for the most part, a thing of the past. The rule has now become the exception.

[90Supra]

still won't be buying it...

[arkard]

I'll be sure to buy it used since SE didn't care about my sale in the first place.

[stormplyr]

So can people now quit claiming Phil Spencer as the messiah Xbox needed? Clearly he hasn't changed a thing with his PR deflection speak.

[Silly gameAr]

People are thanking the guy for being "honest" when he's the one that set the deal in motion in the first place.

[stormplyr]

Not to mention that he's the one who signed off on the 400 million dollar deal to the NFL

[Zeromoniker]

Maybe M$ are just sick of playing second fiddle this generation and are pushing now to even beat EA and become the most hated company in the world !! :)

[Petebloodyonion]

Again the whole blame MS game for doing this kind of things.
The guy is Evil cause he didn't mentioned that it was a time-exclusive!

What about Destiny and Sony?
where the thousands hate article?

[Grave]

Destiny is a new release. Tomb Raider has been played on PC and Playstation for almost 20 years and has a large fan base across these platforms. I hope that makes sense to you.

[Petebloodyonion]

So if I understand your Logic
It's okay for Sony to deny MS gamers because Destiny, a major hype game, (created by a team associated to Halo) is a new IP.
but it's not okay for MS to do the same cause TombRaiders is a Known multiplatform IP?

[ocelot07]

Timed exclusive DLC (which Destiny and Sony has) and now Tomb Raider being a timed exclusive. I do not mind timed 3rd party exclusive as long as the other platforms get to play it eventually.

If the Destiny DLC was fully exclusive to Sony (its not) and Tomb Raider Fully exclusive to MS (its not) then that would of been a dumb move by both bungie and SE. Timed exclusive am ok with.

[Petebloodyonion]

I agree with you on both account and like I said in a other thread
Preventing gamer from enjoying the game on their platform is never a good news for gamer.

what's get me is how come MS is painted like pure Evil for doing the exact same thing as Sony.

[hobbitooo]

destiny only has exclusive dlc to sony, just like cod with ms.
now ms is screwing around with words about tomb raider game being exclusive to xbone.

u know the difference between dlc and the full game??

[Petebloodyonion]

Your partially right!

Sony as exclusivity on DLC in North America and Europe but
Sony as exclusivity on the full Destiny game in Japan.

The game will be release only on Ps3 and Ps4 in japan (1 week after the release of the Xbox one.
Sony has been tight lips on whatever the game is a timed or full time exclusive.

The market maybe different, but the practice is the same.

So again, Why is it bad and Unethical when Ms does it's but perfectly acceptable when Sony does it?

and please recall all the negatives comments about MS lying, Screwing like you say and not being crystal clear about the time exclusive part, while Sony still hasn't answer that same question regarding Destiny in Japan!

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

http://kotaku.com/destiny-i...

[ShadowWolf712]

Sony's not keeping Destiny from the Xbox fans. Just Timed Exclusive DLC that they announced up front as timed exclusive DLC.

[Kurylo3d]

I dont care how "exclusive" it is... ill wait for the pc version. TO hell with all consoles at this point. I mean even metal gear solid 5 is going pc now lol

[Donnywho]

I'll buy it one day for a dollar. :)

[Revengeance]

Of course it was a timed exclusive. Square Enix said 5 million is a failure for them. The sales will be half that on the XB1. They only dug a deeper grave with this deal.

[Orionsangel]

Oh yeah, just like the never ending Peggle 2 duration. Remember when it arrived on iphone and android? Oh yeah never! We could be playing Rise of the Tomb Raider on PC in 2017. Thanks Microass!!!

[Sanhlami]

I hope MS learns now that there are unspoken rules to obtaining 3rd party games otherwise there will be riots. I'm glad that Phil revealed the timed exclusivity. It made me respect him more, even though it should have been said so in the first place. Most is forgiven.

[RealtorMDandDC]

What I find dishearten is how MS went out the way to make it look like it was Exclusive to the Xbox One. When other's of logic proclaim otherwise. I do find that marketing tactic blatantly disingenuous.

Microsoft should invest the probably billions MS has spent on time content and create and mind blowing original content.

You can tell MS is not a content creator at heart.

[hobbitooo]

boycotting this shit even if it release on pc or ps4
hope they become bankrupt

[Adolph Fitler]

Who cares, I liked the last Tomb Raider, BUT, the 1st Tomb Raider is the best in this series, & all of them after Tomb Raider 3 on PS1, have not been up to scratch on the Tomb Raider feel & spirit..

Tomb Raider for me, was a defining step in the 3rd person action/adventure genre... The exploring & puzzle solving have been completely abandoned in todays offerings, & I miss that. The new Tomb Raider just feels like Max Payne 3, with worse controls & a jungle of cavern setting... There are no HALLMARK moments, like Tomb Raider 1, with giant T-Rex's, none of the awesome boss shootouts, & the game has gone all pc crazy, thus not allowing me to lay waste to endangered predator species, like bears, tigers, lions, & such... Just like Resident Evil's developers need to go back & play Re1 & 2, & make a worthy addition to the slow, shambling, zombie, survival horror genre........ the Tomb Raider developers need to go back & study the elements that made Tomb Raider the biggest & best game of it's time,...for gods sake, surely with todays advancements, a bit more exploring adventuring & awesome puzzle solving, can't be too much to ask?

And for this exclusitivity deal, I will now put Tomb Raider OFF me radar, & I will ONLY buy it, when it is in the bargain bin for PS4. I'll do my parts to minimize profits for the developers.

[ZombieGamerMan]

You know MS you guys really are a terrible console publisher you guys waste millions of dollars to keep this away from PS4 for a few months instead of investing it in making new games.

[SnakePlissken]

This is one of the reasons I will never go back to Microsoft! They are just all about money and are so arrogant and rude when it comes to their fanbase!

From their inexperienced and dickish customer service to head honchos over there.

Sony and Nintendo are miles better than them! They lost me as a customer not too long ago and I refuse to give them another dime!

After 3 Xboxs and one refused warranty, I told them to kiss off! FU Microsoft and your shitty consoles! Enjoying watching them fail this gen!

[LordDhampire]

A damn shame, the first tomb raider was epic

[KirbysDump]

Im loving every second of this. sufferrrrrrrr. never seen the sony community cry so much. youve shown your true colours now sony fans as gutless whingebags cos you didnt get your new toy. well boooo hoooo

[Izzy408]

C'mon MS and Square Enix, just let the Sony boys play the game holiday 2015. Make the pain go away.

[Mr_Luke]

I hope people will stop complaining now. And i guess the other platforms will get improvements too (graphics, DLC included and so on).

[cyhm3112]

three months

[Meatyboy]

People who are upset could buy an xbox. It's one possible solution.

[DivineAssault]

we all shouldve known that.. Theres no way a AAA game like that would stay an exclusive if they dont own the IP

[GamersHeaven]

Poor Microsoft waste money still can't even get a real exclusive have fun in last place all generation.

[BigBosss]

im sick of seeing post about this game, we don't care, the previous was lame and this will be boring as well. we have uncharted !

[Picnic]

It's actually generous of Phil Spencer to admit that it's a timed exclusive. He probably didn't have to say any more than 'It's launching exclusively on Xbox'.

The fact he regularly uses the word 'Playstation' when talking about games and the industry shows that he knows that any serious gamer would want to see the unique advantages that there are on different consoles. Some can only afford to pick one side due to time or money but he implictly encourages people to pay attention to the industry as a whole and that is a healthy thing. And the Xbox One has some decent exclusives lined up. No-one, not even him is saying that they're always necessarily better than Sony's. And he's not saying that you should never buy a PS4.