Assassin's Creed Origins Reportedly Features 1080P@60 Mode on Xbox One X

Ubisoft is said to be working on a 1080P@60fps "performance" mode for the Xbox One X version of Assassin's Creed Origins.

[Imp0ssibl3]

Nice. Frame rate > gameplay for me.

[KaiPow]

Yeah, I love it when a console open world can get a 60fps mode.

[Babadook7]

If this is true PS4 pro will likely have that option too.

[freshslicepizza]

@Babadook7
"If this is true PS4 pro will likely have that option too."

I doubt it.

[Ricegum]

@Moldy

"I doubt it." = You hope not.

[DARK_WOLF]

Ps4 pro should have the same mode but most likely be 720p/60 like nioh.

[Ju]

Why would it be 720p?

[attilayavuzer]

@Ju

Weaker specs

[dirkdady]

I think you'll find less and less devs taking the time to really optimize for the X. It's basic economics - why spend dev cycles to develop extras for a console that has very tiny footprint. It may change overtime if it starts selling more units than the base model.

[Miss_Weeboo]

Frame rate is better than gameplay? You know, if the Gameplay sucks... what's the point on playing that?

[Name Last Name]

lol kids these days are too entitled. We used to enjoy a mess of pixels on the screen.

[sloth3395]

I think you mean frame rate > graphics

[Pantz]

nah who needs a good game when you can have awesome frame rate

[sizeofyou]

Lol Pantz - today's chuckle covered off...

[mark_parch]

60fps doesn't bother me as much in 3rd person games. i would still probably go with the 4k 30fps. but in 1st person games it makes a huge difference. i really hope they have a 1080p 60fps mode for far cry

[gamer7804]

Agreed unless it's a competitive or.simulation game id rather have 4K or some sort of better improved graphical effects.

[OffRoadKing]

I see what you did there.

[Thunder_G0d_Bane]

You mean frame rate > Resolution*

[DarXyde]

.... what?

Frame rate.... over gameplay?

Did you mean frame rate over graphics?

[gamer7804]

That makes no sense, without gameplay you have nothing. I'd rather 15 fps with gameplay than 120fps of watching the grass grow.

[attilayavuzer]

But at 120 you could watch it in slow mo, really get your money's worth.

[Jinger]

Gameplay? Did you mean resolution?

[strifeblade]

Good option for those without 4k tvs

[Kribwalker]

"Another noteworthy question is whether there will be a similar 1080P@60fps mode on Sony’s PlayStation 4 Pro console since there isn’t much difference between the two consoles’ CPUs."

Except, you know, they are both custom chips so there really could be a lot of difference between them (dx12 baked into the chip for instance)

[PrinceOfAnger]

I'm not sure about PS4 pro version
But Ark evolved run at 1080p/60fps on XB1X and it run at 30 on pro it has been confirmed, is it going to be the same with Assassin's Creed Origins ?

[Kribwalker]

Exactly. That's why I was saying this guys assumption that the Chips are the same is weingb

[ocelot07]

Ark did have an option for 720p 60 on the Pro. But they removed it. They didn't give a reason why they removed it. Other than it's a better experience for the users now.

[freshslicepizza]

@ocelot07
"Ark did have an option for 720p 60 on the Pro. But they removed it. They didn't give a reason why they removed it. Other than it's a better experience for the users now."

Because according to Naughty Dog Sony has a policy that the PS4 regular system has to have the same parity if a game has any online mutiplayer in it.

If this is true it's nice to know they are unleashing the power of the XB1X and adds further questioning why Destiny 2 doesn't have this option on the XB1X.

[ziggurcat]

@moldy:

"Because according to Naughty Dog Sony has a policy that the PS4 regular system has to have the same parity if a game has any online mutiplayer in it."

Oh? Can you cite this mythical statement from ND? because the only thing that's known is that only the frame rate has to be the same in MP for a game on the Pro as it is on the regular PS4 - it's got nothing to do with any of the single player portion of any game on the Pro. Stop twisting words.

"If this is true it's nice to know they are unleashing the power of the XB1X and adds further questioning why Destiny 2 doesn't have this option on the XB1X."

The devs at bungie have already, long-since explained why the game is what it is on Xbox One X. There's no "further questioning" on this.

[arkard]

Ark is one of the most horribly optimized games in existence. I wouldn't use this for base of my comparison.

[Bigpappy]

Custom CPU means nothing to these guys. They can't wait until the tech guys get a real X1X to do a full teardown and evaluation. Instead they run of with their assumptions as facts.

[MegaMohsi]

Kinda like you do all the time on these forums lmao.

[DrumBeat]

It's the same thing every few years. "Direct X 12 support will change the Xbox One profoundly and make it amazing!" Nothing happens.

Then there was the 'cloud.' -sigh- Brother.

[Ju]

Drawcall optimizations won't help much on a PS4 anyhow, how much if anything this benefits is another question. Sonys libraries were always closer to the metal with better Drawcall performance. What's really left is the operated memory bandwidth and the additional (cache) ram. I doubt this depends much on the CPU. Pros 2.2GHz would be fast enough.

[conanlifts]

The cpus are pretty old And outdated. Based on their drawbacks i think people are overlooking the important advantage that doubling the cpu cache has in the xbox x over the pro. It seems the only thing some people look at is the 10% increase in clock speed.

[freshslicepizza]

Along with the extra 4GB of ram.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Where did this idea come from that frame rate is only tied to the CPU?

[Death]

Fans that want to ignore the GPU disparity and choose focus on CPU's instead.

[yomfweeee]

Consoles are already way more optimized than DX12. DX12 was a joke anyway.

[RedDeadLB]

You can't bake DX12 into the chip since it's just a software layer for communicating with the hardware. DX12 doesn't depend on the CPU you use, but the GPU.

Sure, the Xbox One X has a much more powerful GPU than the PS4 Pro, but the fact that they both still use the same CPU, only slightly overclocked is the main flaw of the systems. And to be fair, they can't change the CPU. That would make it a completely new system and the development effort would double.

The question is whether the CPU can keep up with the GPU. The difference between the Pro and the X in terms of GPU power is enough for 1080p 60fps on the X, but the question is how stable it will be since framerate is also dependent on the CPU. Considering the quality of performance of almost every Ubisoft game when it comes to CPU utilization, I wouldn't expect much.

[Ju]

Not quite true. Number of drawcalls generate a significant overhead in Dx12. Every call (most likely) requires the CPU to synch with the gpu and thus creates stalls. MS hw draw call optimization basically takes this away. Whatever Sony does with its low level graphics libraries which requires carefully design call layouts MS does in hw with the benefit it's transparent to a Dx12 interface. If this is really faster than PS4s hand optimized lean interface, is another question. But it sure improves dx12

[-GreenRanger]

Very good news for 1080p TV owners.

[yarbie1000]

And 4K owners who prefer framerate over resolution

[Bigpappy]

We shall see. I have a 4K TV, so I can compare both and see which works best form me. But this is great that they would give both options. 1080p guys could get more out of Scorpio and 4K guys who prefer 60fps can roll with that option too.

[deadfrag]

Well lets hope other developers follow suit!!

[ONESHOTV2]

good news for the xone guys at least the game is 60FPS

[alb1899]

Yea, at least is 30fps in the pspro, good news for everyone!

[ONESHOTV2]

I don't buy third party games for the pro because my PC takes care of that but 30 is still better than an unstable 20.

[MrFisher21]

Source?

[StormLegend]

Hopefully PS4 too right?

[jmetalhead77812]

Would be nice if everyone has the option. I'd go with 60 FPS myself. With the X and a good 4k TV, it'll be prettier anyway.

[WilliamSheridan]

Maybe 900p checkerboard 60fps on pro... I mean realistically we can't expect the same performance as the X... Buy both consoles if graphics matter to you. Enjoy the benefits of both

[jmetalhead77812]

@William

Obviously the X is going to have performance advantages. I was just stating that I "hope" PS players get have that option. Plus, I said I'd go with FPS bump over graphics bump. You should read comments before replying to them.

[Visceral89]

I thought the X was a "beast"??? There goes Xbox One X's native 4k 60fps dreams, fanboy's were hoping for.

[alb1899]

It is the most powerful console so yes it is a Beast.
I don't see where MS said that it will be all games 4K 60fps

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

And what was Sony fanboys hoping for with the pro?

[Silly gameAr]

Dude, come on. Hardly anyone talked about the Pro when it came out because we knew it was just a PS4 with a bump. You guys are acting like the Xbox1x is going to kick off a new gen and people are going to go bonkers over "true 4k" . It's a totally different feeling.

[WePlayDirty]

I agree GameAR.

[Silly gameAr]

@Crossplay
You know the Pro has Native 4K games? You know what else the pro has? Games that you can't play anywhere else. You know what else the PS4 has? Worldwide appeal. You honestly think that anyone other than hardcore xbox fanboys are going to buy a new 500 dollar system to play third party games, when there's cheaper alternatives out there? You must work for MS new guy, because you sound like shill that's not in touch with reality.

[PCgamer98]

With how badly ac unity runs on consoles I'm not really expecting a lot from this 60 fps option.

[Tankbusta40]

Unity was a poor release but I bought the game a few months later and never experienced problems. I think its just cool to hate on Unity.

[Movefasta1993]

Ac unity has the best gameplay and visuals in the series imo

[Lennoxb63]

It's cool to hate on anything Ubisoft.

[attilayavuzer]

Same. Got it a few months post release and it was gorgeous. All the free flowing interiors...

[mkis007]

Knowing Ubisoft expect it to dip most of the time.

[Silly gameAr]

I can't wait for this thing to come out. Maybe then we'll get some actual game announcements instead of rez announcements.

[Death]

The "rez announcements" are for new games coming out. I know it's fun to ignore all new games by third parties, but they do make up the vast majority of games released.

[Stogz]

Just like it's fun for you to pretend exclusives don't matter right?

[Death]

I pretend exclusives are relevant, but not to the point where they are the only things that matter like some people want to believe. I don't buy all exclusives. How much should the games I don't want matter to me?

[81BX]

@stove
Jesus dude... pass the salt already

[pleasuretokill]

Devs. Please.... if you take away anything from this article... it's this:

Every game, every single one coming to the market should have at least an OPTION of a 60fps locked mode. 30fps is horrible. Coming from my 144hz PC gaming setup, it is almost impossible for me to play 30fps nowadays. Feels like I'm playing on a PS1 @ 15fps.

I'm sure w/ the Xbox One X many titles will be able to run 1440p upscaled at 60fps. That would be a perfect mid point imo.

[Silly gameAr]

I'm sure 3rd party devs would rather have that than install base, right? What is wrong with you guys?

[Tedakin]

I think every game on these new consoles should feature a 1080p 60fps option!

[nondescriptcitizen]

720p, 30Fps on ps4 pro

[CernaML]

480p 15fps on Xbox One S.

[OffRoadKing]

Well at least you made the effort.

[WilliamSheridan]

Ok, that's pushing it... I expect 900p 60fps, or a checkerboard 1080 p

[jokia005]

THIS made me have a consideration to purchase xox, however the new console won be coming to my country.
hope ps4pro will have an option for frame rate even if its not fixed 60.

[WilliamSheridan]

What country? Don't know anyone who will export one for you

[timotim]

That's great news! The more options the better for gamers.

[Xenophon_York]

I'm confused: I thought this new console was supposed to do gaming at 4K?

[optimus]

did you even bother to read the article?

[Xenophon_York]

Did you bother to read that my post was a question, not a statement?

[optimus]

exactly. if you read the article then there would be no question.

[Xenophon_York]

Look, I simply asked a question to a situation I wanted to know more about. If you are able to answer my inquiry, move on. Any further responses from you will be ignored, otherwise. If you wish to throw away more of your time with insults, well, it must suck to be you. Have a good day.

[optimus]

Ha! I didn't insult you. I asked you if you read the article. Because if you did then you would know that it was talking about playing the game at 1080p at 60fps as an available OPTION. ...

It's crazy how people continue to live confused in life while having the answers to their confusion right in front of them. It's like a man who wonders why he keeps bumping into everything and you tell him it's because he walks with his eyes closed...and he still won't open them.

[zb1ftw777]

A step in the right direction.

Now, if only we had a different ip of this quality instead of a reused like of garbage ip that is designed to milk and squeeze every last penny out of you.

There is room in the market for it.

Bolt on a great multiplayer and we have ourselves the next goty.

[CP_Company]

This is nothing more then romour.no one is confirming that.

[showtimefolks]

this constant back and forth about who's console is better needs to stop if you enjoy ps4 more play your games on it (like i do) and if you prefer xbox one, switch pc etc, enjoy those

in 25 years of gaming i don't think i ever said wow it's so easy to tell the difference between 900P and 1080 P and now checkboard 4k/true 4k(still not native in most cases)

can the naked eye really tell the difference while you are playing the game? the tech guys go frame by frame to notice the difference so how much we the gamers actually see while playing the games

please enjoy gaming and let others enjoy without needing to degrade anyone

one love=gaming
we are all gamers

[green]

"this constant back and forth about who's console is better needs to stop if you enjoy ps4 more play your games on it (like I do) and if you prefer Xbox one, switch pc etc, enjoy those
"
Maybe you should take your own advice and lead by example.

[showtimefolks]

green

ain't got time like you and few others to blindly praise or hate anything much rather spend that time playing games. i actually bought xbox over ps2 because i liked how different i was and should have built on that platform. say what you want atleast don matrick(i hope i am spelling his name right) was providing great software support for xbox360 and took over the market

the constant stumbles of xbox brand has left it in it's weakest position and i hope phil really understands that power without games won't go too far

if power alone was the IT factor than every 3rd party game would sell better on PC since that's the most powerful but we all know that's not the case. why they don't treat crackdown IP with more care is beyond me(should be the infamous of MS brand) why we didn't get a proper fable game on xbox one(can you imagine how great it would look/play on xbox x)

again unlike some people on this site blindly praising or hating something won't change much

i miss the open zone on N4G yeah google it because it was before your time when trolls could stay there and mature conversation could be had with fellow gamers

[freshslicepizza]

"can the naked eye really tell the difference while you are playing the game? the tech guys go frame by frame to notice the difference so how much we the gamers actually see while playing the games
please enjoy gaming and let others enjoy without needing to degrade anyone"

Your whole comment is not very sincere. All you are trying to do is marginize the added power of the XB1X and I have yet seen you be very positive towards the system.

[showtimefolks]

moldy

really coming from you? seriously people look at your name and click disagree since you hate playstation brand like you are on MS's payroll. unless you are getting paid there is no way someone could be that biased

[freshslicepizza]

@showtimefolks
"really coming from you? seriously people look at your name and click disagree since you hate playstation brand like you are on MS's payroll. unless you are getting paid there is no way someone could be that biased"

Pot, kettle...

Like I said, it's charming of you to suggest we are all gamers and to stop this back and forth while you let people know there is hardly any difference in power and how you have to go frame by frame to see any difference. That's quite conflicting given how Digital Foundry has been very positive towards the XB1X. So how about you just drop the charade and go away, you're not fooling anyone with your apparent unbiased views.

[showtimefolks]

moldy

if i hurt your feelings in anyway by saying both consoles are basically the same than i do apologize. off course one system has 4GB extra ram and 1.8 extra TF so games should look and play better. But do you really think 3rd party publishers will put in extra work to make games look that much better on x compared to pro when playstaion 4 has more than twice the size of install base? answer this question honestly

this is where 1st-2nd party studios need to shine and show true power of xbox X. Like i said i would love a story driven fable game on xbox X that would be amazing in my humble opinion. i also think scalebound should be brought back as a X exclusive because it can't be done on OG xbox one(just be honest with your fans and tell them it's not possible top run this game on OG xbox one)

the thing i am against is this notion that 3rd party publishers will cater to a very small percentage of install base(ps4 pro and xbox s combined won't have 10 million install base by december 31st 2017 while OG ps4 and xbox one have 80 million gamers)

and i think anytime a game looks the same on x and pro here will be conspiracies that sony has parity clauses or something when in reality most 3rd party publishers are too lazy to give a damn they want to make the most by spending the least

and moldy as of now a lot of games are using the same checkerboarding for xbox x that they were using for ps4 pro

BTW last year MS had a parity clause so anything that wasn't the same they wouldn't allow on xbox360 just like they were against cross play as industry leader but it will be very hard for you to admit or see that

[Gh05t]

"again unlike some people on this site blindly praising or hating something won't change much."

Or maybe it's the problem of if people say they like/dislike something it gets accused of "blindly" love/hate and "Fanboy" rather than a legitimate opinion with personal analysis.

If you want things to get better you stop the name calling. You stop reducing any opinion as "blind" and Fanboy regardless of how true it is and argue the opinion rather than just dismiss any opinion you find to be blind.

[freshslicepizza]

@showtimefolks
"if i hurt your feelings in anyway by saying both consoles are basically the same than i do apologize."

No need to apologize, you're not huring my feelings.

"off course one system has 4GB extra ram and 1.8 extra TF so games should look and play better. But do you really think 3rd party publishers will put in extra work to make games look that much better on x compared to pro when playstaion 4 has more than twice the size of install base? answer this question honestly"

Some will. I remember the original Xbox and it was outsold by the PS2 by a lot more than this situation and it got better treatment for quite a few games. You have to remember that most games are built on the PC with already high asssets so it's easy to port over.

"this is where 1st-2nd party studios need to shine and show true power of xbox X. Like i said i would love a story driven fable game on xbox X that would be amazing in my humble opinion. i also think scalebound should be brought back as a X exclusive because it can't be done on OG xbox one(just be honest with your fans and tell them it's not possible top run this game on OG xbox one)"

Fable had a great premise but was never fully realized thanks largely to Peter M and his hype but it could still be a viable franchise moving forward. Scalebound I'm not so sure, it looked rough.

The following paragraphs were just repeating themselves.

"BTW last year MS had a parity clause so anything that wasn't the same they wouldn't allow on xbox360 just like they were against cross play as industry leader but it will be very hard for you to admit or see that"

Microsoft is not a static company, they can and will change philosophies and direction. Why bring up the lack of crossplay now, just because Sony is against it? It's not a good argument because it shows one company can strive to be more open and more consumer friendly while the other wants to block itself off more and treats it consumers as numbers. Microsoft is doing things to help the consumer, crossbuy, crossplay, digital returns and so on. You can argue it's because they are being outsold but that's irrelevant to the current situation from a consumers perspective. The only rebuttal you guys ahve is to bring up the past and how they are not investing into their own games. The latter I can agree with but the past is the past, it's time for you guys to unload your baggage and stop bringing it into every conversation.

[green]

Just looking at our comment history is enough to know who has the most time between the two of us to talk crap about the other console. SMH

[DarkZane]

This is pretty much fake. They would be shouting it from the rooftops if it was true, but the only one who seems to know about it is some random youtuber at some canadian expo that quote an unidentified ubisoft rep. There isn't even any credible source anywhere in there.

[mandingo]

This is huge

[jer1122]

Honestly feel like the Xbox One X is so powerful I'm surprised we're not seeing more games use checkerboard with 60fps. I don't like that all Microsoft first-party games have to use native 4K.

Gears of War I feel like should be able to checkerboard and do 60 because native 4K takes so much more resources and it's not that much better than checkerboarding it is better obviously. I would rather have like a 1440p and 60fps then a native 4K 30 for some games.

[JonTheGod]

What happened to MS' boast/promise for uncompromised 4K60? 😂😋

[_LarZen_]

Meanwhile PC gamers be like...WTF you kids screaming about?

[Matrix6]

I love 60fps gaming, looks fluidly nice.

[chris235]

this franchise still gets bought and played? wow.

[kevnb]

The other games are great at 60 fps,good for people getting the one x!

[LexHazard79]

This is very important because theres still alot of gamers with 1080p TV and monitors.
I bet even those with the 4K will opt for 1080p/60fps..depending what kind of game it is. Im playing at highest setting. I dont mind open world games at 30fps.

[Father__Merrin]

id prefer a 4k 30fps on a game like this. its nice to have 60fps but 30fps is perfectly playable with increased visuals

[Redemption-64]

It seems lots of Xbox fanboys don't want to the pro to get a 1080@60 fps mode. Anyone that says the hope for it is down voted or attacked. It seems if the pro ends up having it, it will kill the enjoyment of the game for many Xbox 1 x owners. Some are even hoping MS pays Ubisoft to keep that mode exclusive to X.

[phantomxll]

Now go find out why Destiny on xb1x won't be getting the same graphical benefits that PS4pro is getting. Or do you think it's not possible so that's why. Or are you just another hypocrite (in your words) "fanboy"

[Redemption-64]

Care to point out where I made such implication? You insult me by trying to say something I didn't say or even imply. I mean I expect nothing less from people like you. Nonetheless, all I said was how Xbots seem to not want the pro to have the 1080@60 mode and other even wanting MS to pay Ubisoft to do just that. I have noticed that whenever a game that Sony has marketing rights to does not achieve that 4K 60 mark on the x, fanboys are quick to blame Sony without a second thought. Yet there are games MS has marketing rights to and own others that can't hit that 4k 60 mark as well. Who do you blame then? Am guessing Sony paid for them as well. Xbox lineup this year is so weak it's depressing and the only thing Xbox fanboys have to look and hope for is the news that old and new multi platform games are going to look a little better on their system. So the idea that the pro could have a similar mode too, will likely kill the enjoyment for the them

[Redemption-64]

It might also do you some good to educate yourself, granted I expect very little from you.

Destiny on xb1x won't be getting the same graphical benefits that PS4pro is getting. Bungie never made such claims, they simply refused to talking about it. Just in case you are not smart to know the difference refusing to talking about something is not a confirmation. Yes I know shocking. This is what Bungie said in an interview:

As you can see in the D2 Beta, the PS4 Pro is already supporting dynamic 4K resolution. The Xbox One X ships after D2, so we don't have any announcements for how we're supporting it right now but it is something we are interested in. In terms of HDR, we won't support HDR at D2 console launch. We're really excited about the feature (I own an HDR TV and want it badly too!) and very much want to see it arrive sometime post-launch. But I can't promise a date today.

This is no different from when the devs of ROTTR and dead rises 4 refused to talk about the PS4 version, for months and we all know how those turned out. Or what the devs from Bluehole is doing now in regards to PUBG. A company refusing to talk about a version of a game does not equate to its not coming.

[Enjoigamin]

Awesome sauce