Defending The Order: 1886, The Unfairly Hated PS4 Exclusive

Making the case for The Order: 1886 when nobody else will.

[ZaWarudo]

It was barely a game....

[Nyxus]

Define game. You could say the same about Telltale's The Walking Dead games and they win GOTY awards.

[PhantomTommy]

You're right, the difference is that the first Walking Dead game was at least somewhat entertaining and very rarely removed your ability to run through long non-interactive stretches just to artificially lengthen the game. The Order looked great and had some fairly solid combat but it was an absolute chore to play through. You can let this one go lads, the PS4 has plenty of good games at this point -- you don't need to pretend anymore.

[Nyxus]

@ PhantomTommy: I'm not pretending, I genuinely thought it was a good game. Why else would I play through it twice?

[Relientk77]

I find the Telltale "games" incredibly boring. I like games I can actually play

[crazychris4124]

Telltale games are $25 and people know what they are getting. The Order was marketed as a triple A 3rd person shooter for $60. Game was nowhere near worth $60. Should have launched at $30, worth no more than $10 now.

[Z501]

@Nyxus
Agreed.

[madforaday]

@crazychris4124

The Order was advertised as a story driven game that resembles a movie. That is exactly what it was so people knew what they were getting themselves into. Everyone knew about the length and everyone knew it just had SP and nothing else. I do believe you that it wasn't worth 60 bucks. They should of made it 49.99 at first just have a different price and people wouldn't jump the hate train.

[syphon32]

I think what ZaWarudo is saying is that it had lacked certain elements that accompany 3rd person action adventures games these days....but of course it was "a game".., but with all the good they did for it, there was just as much that they didn't...

[EatCrow]

Zawurdo comment is just a troll comment. Ignore it.
Nobody has the right to define what a game is or isn't. It is entertainment media. It can evolve to whatever it wants.

But the problem is Telltales games are about the story and choices you make. Thats the premise of the game. It doesnt try to be a shooter, action, adventure, thrid person story driven game.
It focuses on the one thing it does well. And they do it well. If not people wouldnt rate them so high. It's also a method that works with other plots and stories as we can see.

The order on the other hand was trying to be a third person shooter, story driven cinematic game. So if we consider that and rate them based on what they were trying to acheive then that is where the low ratings come from. Its action was poor, the enemy AI poor, the story was poor although the premise and lore was a 10/10 but that premise and lore and what we wanted to see was not in the game.

still think it deserves a sequel. Because I enjoyed it enough that I wouldnt mind playing the next one.

[modelgod]

No. He means in what they tried to pulloff....it wasn't a game. When you purchase(d) Telltale games you know EXACTLY what your getting into. You Sony Fanboys need to cut it out,What are you going to try to defend next, Driver's Club?

[NapalmSanctuary]

I'll say that about Telltale's games. That said, Telltale games are up front about what they are and they cost much less than $60.

[Deep-throat]

It's a game, 100%. But it was hot trash though.

[Nyxus]

It was a great game that succeeded at what it wanted to do. It was made with a lot of polish and attention to detail, had an intriguing story, awesome presentation and a unique setting. Played through it twice.

[LP-Eleven]

"Succeeded at what it wanted to do".

You'd be hard-pressed to find many that agree, but I certainly do. The only thing wrong for me was a lack of content (I wanted so much more when the credits rolled). Then again, this is a good thing, because, at its core, The Order was a very polished experience with little-to-no bugs to speak of, unmatched visuals at the time, the game-play was incredibly entertaining (important), solid voice acting + performances, and a strong enough story to get the job done.

Was it treated unfairly? In my view - yes.

[yeahright2]

I agree with him. It wanted to be a show piece. a "look what the PS4 can do". and the game is gorgeous.

[Irishguy95]

So, it didn't want to have engaging gameplay? It didn't want to be fun?

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I love it too :3

[rainslacker]

I felt the game was unfinished. The graphics were super polished, and the game play was solid, although not flawless. But the incomplete parts existed in the lichens, and there were sections that seemed set up to have fights where they never came....in particular the vampire stuff.

I do agree with the rest of your sentiments though.

[chaimera086]

Reasonable thinking for sure. The game was not perfect, and I am under no illusion that it was, but I do think the very minor flaws were not enough for this game to be attacked like it was. Victim of hype and expectations for the game to be something the developer never claimed the game to be.

[rainslacker]

Much of the hate, at least on forums was a curse of it being exclusive. Was a pretty heated time since it was so close to launch, and at the time, the XBox was not doing all that well, so it was an easy target. That 5 hour completion video right before release just turned into a landslide of that being indicative of it being a terrible game, and any negative aspect that may have gotten reported on was conflated to mostly greatly over-exaggerated proportions.

I think the reviews overall were kind of understandable though. It'd be a hard game to review because of how incomplete it was, and even some of the low reviews did say where it did really good....which I respect. The ones that put it well below average though I think were unreasonable, because the game wasn't broken or even bad, and what was good was worth playing IMO.

The biggest problem with the game, beyond it being incomplete, was just the lack of varied content. What content was complete though was pretty decent.

[chaimera086]

Agreed. I played through it 3 times, after getting the platinum on the first playthrough. I just think it's a really good game, and I dearly hope that they get the chance to fix the few issues it had (mainly using the same boss fight twice) in a sequel. RaD are great developers, so here's to hoping that E3 holds some surprises.

[Imalwaysright]

If mediocrity was what RAD wanted, then I guess I have to agree with you.

[coolbeans]

"...that succeeded at what it wanted to do."

I guess a central conflict with this notion would be what if what it wanted to do wasn't actually beneficial to the player experience. Pouring a bunch of resources into a game so hard-pressed on being 'filmic' to the point of actively trying to remove any sense of player agency. There are dozens of ways to craft a linear walk-a-thon, but when the artifice is readily obvious I can't help but disagree w/ the notion of such a game being great--let alone worthwhile.

I get showing interest in the lore, but I don't get how the story was anything noteworthy--aside from seeming like some 10th-grader's creative writing assignment (his first draft at that) with some great voice acting talent.

[Rimeskeem]

If the game was 20$ I am positive it would have been recieved well. What was there was great, but there needed to be a lot more for $60 price tag.

[yeahright2]

Yup, it was the value proposition that was the problem. It was a 5 hour game, that's fine. but the lack of content was not. Other than that, my only real gripe was the repetitive QTE boss fights.
But this and Ryse are my go to examples on one end when ever I make the case for not all games costing a standard $60. (the order should be less than $60 while something like witcher 3 should be more).

[Nyxus]

I disagree. That would only encourage publishers to demand filler and obligatory 'open world' mechanics to be put in every game just so they can ask a higher price. But not every game needs to be open world or 60+ hours.

[yeahright2]

Oh, it's pie in the sky now, for sure. But it didn't used to be all games came out with a standard price. But I acknowledge that it won't go back to that. We've already spoiled the publishers by gobbling up their DLC and season passes. and they won't let that money go. So even if EA charges $80 for mass effect, there'll still be dlc and micro transactions. Now CDPR would be the exception, but sadly they wouldn't be nearly enough to cover the EA's and Ubisoft's of the gaming world.

[EatCrow]

It gets really tricky when you go into content = price or does it, territory.
I think the price by value isnt the problem. Its the economy. Most people thing 60$ is a tad bit expensive for a game and therefore decide that they must focus on content over quality in order to ensure their 60$ was worth it.

If people had a lot more money then the 60$ wouldnt seem so bad now would it?

The problem is people take their own economy and use that to price a videogame. Some people are rich, some poor, some in between, some care and others dont. We shouldn't use economy to determine the value of a game which isnt grounded on that same economy.

Some games that are short I've enjoyed more then games that are super long. Does this mean they should've priced the short game higher? No.

The value of the game should be determined by the cost of the game plus profit. If we decided what the cost should be it is possible that some of these companies would disappear because they sold at a complete loss and never made their money back.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

*10 hour game

[ninsigma]

It's worth more than 20$ but I agree it was worth full price. It was 75 euro in Ireland. I think 55 euro would have been a better price for it.

[ninsigma]

Meant wasn't worth full price.

[CorndogBurglar]

The AI was certainly not great.

Werewolves ran straight at you, then ran straight back to where they came from, then ran straight back at you, then ran back where they came from. Easiest enemies in the game.

Your idiot teammates did NOTHING. I don't think I saw one kill anything the whole game.

Some of the enemies were broken, like the armored shotgunners.

The environments were boring and walking around in them was pointless.

Most of the pickups were pointless and did nothing to add to any lore or story.

The end boss was a cut and paste of a previous boss. Which, ironically enough, just so happened to be the only two bosses in the game. Or does that make it one boss? Either way, it was barely a boss fight because it was just a QTE.

Weapon variety was terrible.

Way too many QTE's.

Graphics and story were good, I'll give it that. But for a $60 game people expect WAY more, even if it had been released 2 generations ago.

I'm not sure I can agree with "What was there was great". If it was $20, I'm pretty sure all the same flaws would have been pointed out, but with the disclaimer, "What do you expect for $20?"

[Movefasta1993]

where it ended,that would have been the perfect set up for the next half of the story.

[Liqu1d]

I enjoyed it but there was definitely room for improvement. Content was lacking and the lycan battles were underwhelming. I loved the setting and the story though, the weapons felt powerful and good to use. Hopefully Sony greenlight a sequel because I'd love to play a sequel that has all the necessary improvements. If I had to rate it I'd give it a 7/10.

[ninsigma]

Yes! The lycan battles were really my biggest gripe. Having one qte boss fight would have been fine but to then have the same boss fight at the end was poor and the normal lycan fights where they run at you was badly done I thought. Everything else was great.

[spicelicka]

Which is around the average rating it got. I think that's fair.

[Ethereal]

Exactly. The Lycan battles really stood out like a sore thumb in comparison to the rest of the game's quality. Shame really, with better boss encounters and not reusing the same mechanic in a different setting would have propelled this into a whole other realm.

[Knushwood Butt]

Pretty much this.

I also loved the atmosphere and just walking round looking in shop windows etc.

[crazychris4124]

I just beat the game on Sunday. Gameplay killed the game. Half of the game felt like it was QTEs, walking and cutscenes. Lets not forget that horrible auto fail stealth mission. And every time you got a cool weapon the game would take it away after a cutscene. Feel bad for the people that spent $60 or more on the game. I only paid $3 and I was still disappointed with the game.

Would love a sequel from the same team since they probably know all of the areas they need to improve. Maybe set it in America since they talk about it several times throughout the game.

[Omnisonne]

I've had a similar experience this week. I never bothered getting it despite the environments and setting being right up my alley, but it turned out exactly as you described it, and kind of how I expected it to be.
Maybe it's the lack of gameplay that makes me grow impatient with the game overall, Im not sure

I haven't finished the game yet, but if things aren't improving I'm honestly not sure if I care about finishing it. Production and quality wise it's a great cinematic piece, but as a game.. not my thing.

[Relientk77]

Beat it during Halloween/October last year. It was pretty good, but has its flaws, including too many QTEs, you only get to use the coolest guns a handful of times, and the gameplay could have been better

[Deathpreacher]

this is a great game

[PlayableGamez-]

I was one of those haters, until I actually played it. It's actually a solid shooter with the best graphics on the PS4.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Omg. Stop. The game was a glorified tech demo. It looked amazing but it wasn't amazing. The only parts that were fun were few and far between.

[Fishy Fingers]

Has enough time passed already for us to look back through rose tinted glasses and see an average game as anything but average because it's exclusive?

Pretty game. That's where it's strengths end. It was unfairly hyped rather than unfairly 'hated'.

[TankCrossing]

That doesn't take any time at all. Exclusives are typically perceived as the best things ever from the moment they are announced.

[rainslacker]

I think those that like it seem to believe it was average. But being average doesn't mean that it isn't worth them liking it, or looking back appreciating what they played is seeing it through rose tinted glasses.

The game was OK. It had flaws, but it had good stuff too. Some people have strong opinions on what was wrong with it, while others believe that those same things actually aren't bad, or were even good. The lichen fights are about the only thing I consistently see those who hate it and those how like it agree on.

I think the focus on continuing to keep discussing the game, outside some random talk about hoping for a better sequel, is because it's exclusive, but I don't think those who like it, or now can have good things to say about it, are doing so because it's exclusive.

[ninsigma]

It's been like 2 years now. Think it's time to stop bringing it up at this point. I agree it was unfairly hated on though (there's been a few of those this gen). It wasn't perfect or anything like that but it was solid and fun. I do think however it wasn't a full priced game. From a consumer standpoint and as someone who really enjoyed the game, I felt that 75 euro was asking too much for what it offered and that being full price really worked against it on the market.

[corroios]

It was short, just that , too damn short.

[Shadow Man]

I felt the game was ok, the graphics were amazing, it lack a better story, and better AI.

There is potential to improve the game on the next sequel which I would check out.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I got it for $10. I think the game has a interesting premise but the gameplay is lacking. I think it's about a 6/10 game.

[CrimsonWing69]

It was not unfairly hated.

Yes from a technical standpoint it's a marvel graphically.

The cover-based shooter gameplay was not nearly as well implemented as other games in the genre nor was the shoot-outs as exciting. The fact that some chapters were cutscenes felt a bit jarring. The repeated 3 boss battles I can't see anyone arguing were good.

There is just a lot wrong with The Order. Now, does that make it so people can't enjoy it? Of course not, it's perfectly fine to like a bad game, just don't lie to yourself about it.

[The_Sage]

I loved The Order... I've played through it multiple times, and will again. It was a bit short but what is there is great. Haters talk about the quick time events as a major downfall, but there are only a few times in the whole game that these even happen. No where near as many as God of War. I really want a sequel, but that will likely never happen with all the hate this game got, half of which probably came from the Xbox only crowd that just wanted to slam a high profile Sony exclusive.

[SatanicEyeJesus]

Agreed. Most of the hatred came from xboners or the "I own all consoles". The game can be improved, but is far from being bad.

[morganfell]

It is how they handle these games. In an earlier thread I called it the Heavenly Sword Syndrome. Xbox fanboys did not know how to counter it. The first Uncharted they simply ignored. The press did not attack it, they pretended it didn't exist. But with Heavenly Sword they played dual cards. It is linear card and of course it's short card. They were doubly mad because it was a former Xbox exclusive that MS decided to drop and Sony picked it up.

[The_Sage]

It's criminal how many people missed out on Heavenly Sword, and how much hate it got. That game is great front to back. I had no idea it was going to be an Xbox game first.

[ClayRules2012]

The Order: 1886 is a really good game "in my opinion" I will continue to defend it when it's brought up in conversation.

R@D crafted a game that was "VERY CINEMATIC" 3rd person action adventure game, as they said before release, that was the kind of game they were aiming to create. It had issues, such as towards the end of the game, multiple chapters are cutscenes, which was a mistake, and missed opportunity. The werewolf fights were poor, and not as exciting as the developers made them sound. And I would've preferred a combat system similar to TLoU. Oh, can't forget that awful Stealth section. But a sequel could fix those issues. Overall, while it has its issues, more than some other games, it was still a thoroughly enjoyable gaming experience!

I hope we'll hear an announcement for a sequel in the near future...

[Mister_G]

It's a marmite game.... some love it, some hate it :)

[Number_9]

Nah marmite is very polarizing. This game is middling. Few love it. Some hate it. Most are meh on it. There's no middle ground with marmite.

[bluefox755]

It was a solid first entry for a new IP, nothing amazing, but decent. Plenty of room for improvement of course, but I wouldn't call it bad.

[TheOttomatic91]

I generally enjoyed this game from start to finish but I got it on a sale for $20 so I wasn't that upset but if you payed $60 I can understand your beef with it.

[Fist4achin]

I enjoyed the game and felt the complaints about the game length are a little unfair. I've played so many games that are just fluffed up way too much with unnecessary quests. I felt that the order kept the quest going and flowed nicely.

[ClayRules2012]

I agree. It did flow nicely!

Aside from multiple chapters being cutscenes towards the end of the game, I never once felt like I wasn't given enough gameplay.

[ScreenCritics]

By "Unfairly Hated" you mean "Incredibly short, linear, overly-cinematic, self-indulgent tripe that wanted to be a movie but fancied charging $60 for the privilege"?

[Kuma]

OK,so it wasn't great but it was good enough in my opinion to give it an 8/10. It would make a heck of a sequel if it's done right.

[chris235]

it was boring asf. didn't even bother to click this apologist blog

[Blaze929]

I don't even remember what this "game" was about. Definitely was a product of over-hype, smh.

[ClayRules2012]

What hype? This game was in no way a product of over-hype. It was criticized since game journalists were able to get their hands on a playable demo.

It didn't have much chance, which is a shame.

[Imalwaysright]

Yes it was. If you came to n4g before the game was released people were hyping the shit out of it. I even remember someone saying that it would set the standard for cinematic video games even before the game getting any footage whatsoever.

[Blaze929]

people got real short term memory @Imalwaysright

[dilbig5]

My only problem was that it was really too short. If it was about 4-5 hours longer, I probably wouldn't complain

[spicelicka]

Both this game and Ryse were great. Not amazing but definitely not as bad as people made them out to be.

[SaveFerris]

The characters, story, setting, and graphics were a standout. But the 'boss fights' with the Lycan were dull, and the game felt too 'restrictive'. I wanted to explore more of the world, but all I could do was go down corridors. It has potential for a sequel, though it would likely take on a different look in order to avoid the same issues.

[BlakHavoc]

Game just wasn't good imo. Of coarse there are those that enjoyed it, but from what I've experienced most consider it to be a mediocre game, that's just the truth.

[exsturminator01]

I like The Order 1886. It had a good story, great graphics, and I didn't feel the shooting was any more repetitive than the average third person cover shooter I'd played. It was WAY too short, but that's not really a reason to kill a sequel. I hope Sony revives the franchise one day. Knack is getting another shot, why not The Order?

[MagicBeanz]

Another game caught in the middle of the fanboy war do to its proximity to the new console releases, it wasn't a masterpiece but it didn't deserve the smear campaign in received, but that's what haters do, especially when their console bombed so hard.

[septemberindecember]

It seems that the smear campaign that The Order: 1886 received is quite similar to the same campaign you practice in regards to all non-Sony consoles...interesting.

[MagicBeanz]

Sony VR is garbage, Sony handhelds are garbage, the PS Plus games of late have been garbage, the PS4 controller is poorly made, and PS network needs much improving. Ooops now what are you going to do, looks like I just ruined your whole theory didn't I. I know it hurts your wittle feewling but I call things as I see them, if I think its bad on Sony's part I'll say so, and if I think whatever Nintendo or Microsoft is doing is garbage, which is mostly everything they do, I say that to, unlike you I dont play the corporate loyalty game so maybe go find something else to be interested in cause you swung and you missed here junior.

[septemberindecember]

Nope, you didn't hurt my feelings at all. I don't know why you would think that you would. I don't have any corporate loyalty, and I think it is funny that you are acting so hostile over a silly comment. It must have REALLY gotten to you ;)

Oh, and also, you not liking certain parts of Sony doesn't undermine my comment. Name one current non-Sony console that you don't constantly crap on and maybe we can have a conversation. Until then, what I said remains true. Happy gaming!

[Platformgamer]

Holy words, thank you :)

[yomfweeee]

It didn't deserve hate, but it wasn't anything great and it certainly wasn't one of the best like he said.

[KickSpinFilter]

Horrendous AI on the Halfbreeds some of the worst this decade, story at end a little wonky with the vampires was a little much. And yes a little too short with what was given. 12hours is a good length for this kind of game.
If they do get to do a second chance at The Order 2 they have some good ground work already setup, but I don't think there gonna get a chance. In the end it was a good rental, that's about it.

[NotAfanBoyy]

I'm glad everyone hated on this game. Got it cheap when most PS4 exclusives were expensive. Really enjoyed this hidden gem!

[sampson3121]

i dob't care what Critics and their sheep say, i loved the game and hope for a sequel.

the amount of people that formed their opinions of the game through watching a stream is funny. watching a game and playing it are two different things all together. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Ethereal]

I enjoyed it quite a bit actually. I paid $15 for it so that definitely factors into my opinion and I can sympathize with those that paid full price for it because it was rather short. Still, the technical prowess of the game and the setting, characters and attention to detail is hard to come by in games these days. Sure, the boss battles were, let's face it, repetitive and shoehorned in but outside of that I thought it was tight and fun to play. The story was also pretty intriguing and had me wanting to see where it was going to go. I think with a bit more polish on the boss encounters and maybe a few more incentives for multiple playthroughs, it would have been received better. I can respect a tight, polished experience over a game that throws filler in to make it seem worth the asking price. If the boss encounters were varied and incorporated new gameplay mechanics I think it could have been perfect. Sadly, I doubt we will see a return of the IP.

[Inzo]

Unfairly hated is an understatement, its a great game with huge potential and I am really hoping for a sequel.

[Dirtnapstor]

The Order was a fantastic game. Could it have supported more content? Sure. But all the supposed cons presented then and now still do not hold any real weight. Let's be objective here... So many other games are that got praise for their mechanics and whatnot, The Order provided the same experiences, yet it gets hammered. I truly think the primary reason was that it was an exclusive.
Great story premise. Great characters. Good mechanics. Good pacing. It was a different experience. Gamers constantly cry out for different. We got it, and still people bitched.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

The Order 1886 wasn't "unfairly hated". The game got lower reviews, because many reviewers didn't enjoy the gameplay.

[classic19]

The order while had its problems was a good game imo.. Listing im over it, im just hoping sony give us another one. The world the story can go places. I want 1886 part 2 and lets be real yall do to.

[ALMGNOON]

don't get all the hate this game is getting, the game was 7/10 for me, the only issue is the it was very short other than that it was so good. 90% of the people b1tching about it probably didn't even play and they are just hating on it because of the reviews.

[septemberindecember]

Well everyone has their own opinions, but I don't think the game should be defended. The graphics were/are fantastic, and I enjoyed the voice acting, but its incredibly linear gameplay, uninspired "boss" fights, little (read: no) replay value, and monotonous combat aren't things I look forward to in a game.

Which is terrible because I feel it could have been something special. The first time you receive the thermite gun I thought "Oh man, are the weapons going to get more unique from here?". Unfortunately I was disappointed.

However, I would love for Sony to try their hands at a sequel. A sequel done right with a more colorful array of weapons, better combat, and please ditch the big black cinematic bars on the top and bottom of the screen!

[C-H-E-F]

I was just talking about this game, this game was the foundation of something amazing, it's a shame it won't be continued great game IMO, I love story driven games, maybe that's why i loved this game so much.

[InTheZoneAC]

Bought it for $3, if it sucks I won't care

[MetalNCarnet]

The Order was a great game. I loved the story too. To bad it was only 4 hours long. If it came out for $29.99 back then, nobody would have complained about it.

[gangsta_red]

The only good thing about this game were the graphics. Everything else was complete vanilla ice cream, from the weapons (except for one weapon that you barely got to use), gameplay (especially the laughable stealth parts), AI, to the horrible story.

If any other developer would have released this game, EA, Activision, Ubi, there would be hardly anyone on N4G defending this game.

The two boss fights that play exactly the same because their QTE is reason enough that this game should be criticized. But if there was ever a need for an MP or a co-op it would be this game right here.

I read and keep reading that this was suppose to be a cinematic experience but it failed to even give me this. Besides NMS this is probably the most disappointing game this gen so far.

[MilkMan]

Game was great. Just needed more of what we loved. They definitely have the foundation to keep world building. I dont see any reason why it should be put in hiatus.

[Fearmonkey]

I actually enjoyed my playthough of the game. It wasn't a bad game at all, just could have been so much more! The graphics were amazing and the photo options were fantastic. The game needed co-op and some reason to play though again, it needed collectables and side reasons to explore the beautiful world. I bet most people talking trash about it barely played it, if at all.

[Kingcorey13]

voice acting.. supreme
story and lore..supreme
graphics...supreme
game play.. good except lame boss fights.
audio.. supreme
cut scenes.. supreme
length.... not long enough(my only issue with the game)
if it were 3 hours longer with more engaging boss fights it would have been a solid 8.5 to 9 imo. it was a great game with tons of potential for a sequel..

[BeenThereDoneThat]

I enjoyed it when I played it from disc. And now that I bought for 3 bucks I get to replay it from download. It was a good game, just a little too short. That's my only gripe. Everything else was fine with me. We're expecting a rainy weekend here in the south, so I'll be able to fire up the PS4Pro, sit on the couch on Saturday morning and finish it up before lunch...like a good long movie...except that I am the main character....I can't wait.

[AnubisG]

It does have it's faults but I really enjoyed this game and wouldn't mind a sequel. It's one of the best experiences I had on the PS4.

[OB1Biker]

Again games don't need 'defending'. You like it or not.
I liked the Order 1886 I couldn't trade it. I feel I need to keep it because its special.
What I don't like is sometimes so called gamers get some sort of condescendent attitude towards people who enjoyed the game.

[Eldyraen]

Great visuals, idea for a story, characters, and setting. Good gameplay but bad pacing when it comes to story and gameplay ratio, especially qte wise when if you failed you had to watch the whole cutscene again leading up to it (some of which were 3-5 minutes long).

I think it could had been better designed as a "game" but it is a lot like Beyond Two Souls and such where if you want a solid story and something different, you just take that sacrifice and enjoy it for what it is. Or not.

I enjoyed it a lot but can easily see why some didn't. It's basically a Story First type of game. A prime example of Story, Graphics, or Gameplay as two were rock solid and third was a bit weak imo (but still had it's good points--just not consistently from start to finish).

[Elda]

It wasn't hated in my book.I had some issues with it far as it being short & only having a couple of monsters.If they ever made a sequel it should fix those problems I mentioned including tweaking the gameplay mechanics.

[Segata]

Overpriced tech demo.

[ooquis]

I don't play shit games,and I finished this game.

[Gamer1992]

It was short , thats the only flaw it had. The story was amazing

[Kosic]

It was a nice looking game, with an ok storyline. but the gameplay sucked big time, it was a gears of war clone, but done poorly.

Cut scene > run down hall way > hide behind boxes > kill waves of mobs > repeat.

[watchem]

I liked it. Bought it cheap and it was an easy platinum as well :)

[Tzuno]

Good game, can wait to fight vampires.

[Matpan]

Hi, I just come here to confirm my choice regarding the purchase of a certain console by leaving a positive comment about a game released for said platform. If a similar game had been released on your console of choice I would not hesitate to say it was not a good game at all.

[cd1]

Say what you like about The Order, it's still the most photo-realistic game I've ever played...although GT Sport may claim that title soon.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

It was not worth full price. Glad I did not pay full price for this game.

[gammaray13]

An amazing game and hated by only idiots and flogs

[Athos]

The Order was one of my favorite games this generation regardless of console. I loved it and I loved the ending. As a person who is older and owns a large business I thrive on shorter games that I actually have time to complete. The story, graphics, and the ending were top notch IMO. Great game.

[KryptonKronos]

I didn't mind it overall, but in no way can i defend it. I paid 70 quid for the collectors edition to have five hours of gameplay that wasn't worth it. The game was so linear you wonder how much effort they really put into this game other than to make it look visually stunning. There was no replay value to my 70 quid at all other than to mop up trophies.

About the only thing i liked about it enough to remember was the slightly average narrative and yes it's a shame the game didn't do well because it means there most likely won't be another and i'd like there to be. If only they'll learn from their mistakes and develop a game that could of been swimming with potential the first time around.

[ILostMyMind]

I don't hate it. Actually i think it's a good game and i got the Platinum Trophy. I just don't think it's worth $ 60.

[Number_9]

For a short game it sure felt like a long bore of a chore to play. I just wanted it to end because I was so bored playing it.
The amazing graphics that wowed everyone back when it launched had less of an effect on me because I played it only a month ago. After playing graphical powerhouses like Horizon Zero and The Witcher, The Order's graphics did nothing distract me enough from how bored I was playing it.

[The7Reaper]

It was great but its short story accompanied by a $60 price is what was dumb it should have been released as $40 game.

[isarai]

I loved it, story was very intriguing, characters were awesome, combat was nothing groundbreaking but it wws very polished and satisfying, graphics were amazeballs. I just think it could have used a couple more hours of campaign, or about $15 off the retail price cause it was extremely finite in its experience. No reason whatsoever to replay it with a campaign i beat in 7hrs. I only payed $30 and i didnt feel cheated, but at $60 i definitely would have

[Father__Merrin]

was an old school style title with not much in replayabliti apart from higher difficulty but it was a blast to complete, absolutely stunning gameplay and visuals. it deservs a sequel

[derek]

This was a wildly inconsistent game. Visually stunning, one the best if not the best looking game I have seen this generation. But the boss battles where so lazily done you wonder how a developer could put such detail into everything but what should be the most important set pieces in the game.
The werewolfs doing that stupid endless loop in the warehouse. The final werewolf, which looked amazing, was so half assed in terms of difficulty I was left scratching my head. Then you got those armored bad guys who were next to impossible to gun down. Just didn't make sense. It certainly didn't deserve the weird hate campaign it got even b4 release. It could have been so much better.

[DialgaMarine]

I wouldn't say it was unfairly hated. By no means was it a bad game; it just lacked so much content that the $60 price was way overboard. The franchise still has a crap ton of potential; it just needs a much larger and more competent developer so that the game can actually have more gameplay than cutscenes, as well competitive/ coop multiplayer. Ready At Dawn is a good developer, but they were in way over their heads when they thought they could do this with just 100 people.

[GrmpyolGamer]

Only redeeming thing for this game was the visuals. Story and gameplay were crap and the amount of content we received for a full priced game was insulting. Nice graphics isn't enough to make up for that

[Einhander1971]

Certainly not bad by no means, a sequel would be great I think there is so much potential for the order with its characters etc.

[Godmars290]

No. Not unfairly "hated". The dev had a vision for what he wanted and it wasn't commercially viable. The audience he tried to sell it to didn't like it.

As part of the few who apparently did; get over it.

[OhMyGandhi]

The game wasn't great. It wasn't god-awful. Just mediocre. Gorgeous visuals marred with standard third person cover based shooting. The world was simultaneously beautiful but boring as well. The level design and flow of the world was just average. The story wasn't that great, the characters were traditional archetypes we've seen a thousand times before. It was too short, and it damn near played itself. It deserves the criticism that it received. Would I like to see a sequel? without a doubt. There is some decent stuff in there, and Ready At Dawn are totally capable of delivering on what they promised in the early trailers. A 60 dollar game needs to be at a minimum 8-10 hours long. I red boxed this game in the morning, beat it, and returned it that afternoon.

[ApexWolf22]

Amazon just recently had it for $4, at that entry point I'm sure I'll get my moneys worth.

[theXtReMe1]

Im kind of in the middle with The Order. I can see what it did right and where it could have gone, but the gameplay was its biggest weakness. It was, for lack of better words, generic and derivitive of games made back in the 3DO era. It was basically one step away from an interactive movie game, like Night Trap. Now, that being said... what was there, was really good and a great foundation for a future with the franchise. I could see an Assassins Creed like game blossoming from out of the cinders. The game proved that incredibly movie-like visuals could be achieved in real time and Im wondering how much further they could've pushed the gameplay. Obviously, visuals like them couldn't be presented in an open world environment(at least not thos generation)... but some its environments were quite open and allowed for some exploration. So, Id love to see what they could do with it now, that they have more experience with the hardware under their belts. Especially with the Pro hardware at their disposal.

Though, with all of this speculation comes the biggest question for gamers... what could they do to change your mind about the game? More action? added stealth? more exploration? player driven actions and consequences that could change the story?

I hate to see them give up on the franchise, that could breed really great stories throughout the worlds history... though, they need to make it more of a game, as opposed to an interactive experience to have any luck reintroducing it to the gaming public. After all, most of the AAA titles today had rocky starts trying to capture their identity and didnt start hitting their strides until their second or third title. So, shouldnt this game be given a chance to correct its mistakes? I say yes. So, I hope Sony allows them the opportunity to redeem what could have been and make something truly special. Because Id hate to see the great lore be wasted on a one and done attempt at greatness.

[supersonicjerry]

Decent game, but AMAZING MOVIE. (I felt like this was more of a movie than a game to be honest.)

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Masterpiece is what I call it. Loved the entire experience and would love a lengthier sequel.

[steveo123456]

Exclusives exclusives damage control exclusives lulz

You guys really are scraping that barrel now haha

[Chrisgamerguy]

It was all generic shooting and QuickTime events. The final boss was a QuickTime event! Wtf!

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Seems the hateful attitude people have towards this game is how I feel about the GTA series. I'd rather have my ass sewn shut then suffer through those games, but absolutely love The Order.

[level 360]

Use of so many QTE ( quick-time-event ) within the game was The Order 1886's biggest bane and downfall I think.
The visuals, the atmospherics and idea behind the various characters' was the best out there, it just wasn't utilized at it's best. And the game is too short.
I still loved The Order 1886 in all honesty just because of the many conspiracy theories within the narrative and back stories of the main characters in the game that needs to be explained more.
Wish Sony would give the game another chance ( just make sure the less or no QTE at all the better )

[NicSage]

I enjoyed it and I was hoping for more.

[PhoenixUp]

It doesn't have much replay value so I didn't even buy it when it was on sale for $4 last week

[Germaximus]

One of the most boring movies I've ever forced myself through. Maybe the most boring.

[MasterofMagnetism]

Still enjoyed it even with all of the flaws. Hope they make a sequel.

[Nintendo4Lifex]

Game is so bad not even funny. Wish I could get my 4 back. Would rather of had a 4 for 4 at Wendy's!

[VTKC]

I was late picking up this game when it was well into the sale despite hearing how short it was from the store operator i still wanted to experience this game for myself. I dont hate the game. I was just sad that it wasnt as good as i anticipated while i was playing the game for the first time witnessing the visuals and the detail. Especially the setting is amazing to me. Its a real shame looking back at it.

[Kallisti]

That werewolf AI though...

[Moe-Gunz]

I enjoyed it and hope they make a sequel. It definitely has flaws. Put simply it just needed more. It was a 6/10 game for me. I hope they make a sequel and improve. The engine is done and I know that had to he a huge focus.

[medman]

I liked The Order. Sure it was short, and certainly on rails, but the characters and the lore were fantastic (as were the weapons), there just wasn't enough of either....I definitely wanted more backstory on Igraine and Galahad in particular. The world they created was great, they just didn't dive deeply enough into it imo.

[DafunkyRebel]

Interesting Story
Good characters
Kinda fun gameplay
Easy Platinun
Shitty Lenght
That's about it but yeah its a pretty decent game like maybe a 7/10

[superman0520]

I thought it was a good game but Wouldve been great if it was a lot longer.

[PlatinumGX]

Couldn't bring myself to pay $3 for it, would've felt ripped off.

[aLucidMind]

The Order had and has a ton of flaws. Every criticism I've seen against it is easily justifiable. Should that make the game any less enjoyable if you're able to look past those flaws? No, it shouldn't. But let's not pretend that the criticisms it got were unfair just because you like it because that's when you stop being a fan of the game and become yet another pretentious fanboy.

[CanadianTurtle]

I agree, why does everyone hate this movie so much?

[welly300]

Just a game that didnt gel it looked great played okay but just felt empty.

[modelgod]

@Nyxus the same reason why I play EVERY game about 3-5 times.....Trophies/Achievement s. Also, humans have a tendacy to master something that they're good at, no matter how " Good " it actually is. At the time, the PS4 was trash, that can be a good reason why you played it twice.

[Rhythmattic]

This title could work with many a game...
Alan wake. Quantum break, Ryse...ect.
All decent... Just not amazing.

[HeyNowChillax]

Beautiful game, good story, functional yet uninspired over the shoulder combat. Definatly worth a run if you get it cheap which it is. I just can't get over those damn black bars for cinematic effect, as they say. Even "The Evil Within" patched those damn things out.

[wheatley]

Imagine the love this game would be getting if the story hadn't ended when it just got going...

[Wotbot]

Like a lot of good games out there, Quantum break is another one.

[guyjean]

I think it's a great game. I wished there was a bit more freedom. But loved the story and graphics a lot. Best werewolves ever. Looking forward to a sequel.

[Orionsangel]

It was a good game. I had fun playing it. It's main problem that many don't seem to notice is that it's an obviously unfinished game. It ends with so many unresolved story lines and plot holes. I remember following the story and characters saying they were gonna do these things and meet up with me. I thought, can't wait to see where all that goes. They even setup a main villain you never get to fight as the final boss. Then the game just abruptly ends. WTF? Why? Did they run out of money? It needed at least 7 more hours and I think it would have been a great game.

[idefoe34]

I enjoyed playing The Order 1886, but it`s clear that it was not the game everybody was expecting. For me maybe the worst point was the short duration. When I finished the game I had no idea what more to do in the game. This is the problem. Apart from that, I had fun with the 6-7 hours of duration.

Anyway I don`t imagine a second part of The Order with all the critics received..