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God of War 3 PS3 vs. PS4 Direct-Feed Screenshot Comparison: No Visible Difference Beside Resolution

God of War 3 Remastered will be officially released on the PS4 on July 14th. It is being termed as a HD Remaster to the original God of War 3, which ran at a sub-HD resolution and with an unlocked frame rate on the PS3. Considering the fact that the game is a few years old now, it is interesting to see how Sony Santa Monica has handled this remaster for the PS4.

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Rimeskeem3210d ago

the image seems sharper (probably from the better resolution). The lighting is a bit better as well but i think the 60fps will be the biggest change.

Transporter473210d ago

The textures of everything improved as well. GOW III looked phenomenal on PS3.

Rimeskeem3210d ago

just goes to show how incredible Santa Monica is.

SoapShoes3210d ago

Looked great on PS3 and looks great on PS4. Loving how sharp it is now.

Azmatik3210d ago

Honestly it just goes to show how many people troll comparisons, I have so many questions about this comparison. Why is every single ps4 screenshot cropped? Why is there no HUD on ps3 but there is ps4? Why are the sliders not full screen? Honestly think this is BS and im not just trying to stick up for it. Gamespot has the best comparison yet and I'm going to stick with theirs. So many people trolling this game for hits.
http://www.gamespot.com/vid...

AndrewLB3210d ago

The textures are exactly the same. The difference is resolution, texture filtering (anisotropic), and perhaps some post process color palette tweaks.

Here's a great example what anisotropic filtering does, and it's use on the PS4 version is clear as day.

http://ec0c5a7f741a6f3bff65...

http://0cb8dd5d2dc142d08f0f...

OB1Biker3210d ago

@Azmatik
Even TLOU R was trolled about on gaming sites. It makes click to troll PS4 remasters.

donthate3210d ago (Edited 3210d ago )

This game is not a "remaster", it is a PORT. It was ported over from PS3 with nothing else done to it. Commonly what they do on console-to-PC port.

I find this extremely lazy and insulting by the dev/Sony to ask for $40.

Compare that to:

* Uncharted trilogy at least has 3 games remastered (without multiplayer part, bummer)
* Halo: MCC with 4 games, crap load of maps, dedicated servers and etc
* Gears of War: UE with completely redone textures, cinematics, modernized game mechanics, re-recorded sounds and all the maps on dedicated servers. Heck, it even has extra content not in the original game.

I don't know about you guys, but I expect far more from a remaster. This isnt qualified to be called that. It is a port and a disgrace!

CYCLEGAMER3210d ago

Why are there black bars around the ps4 version. Does anyone have this game that can confirm this isn't a mistake. I hope they didn't compress the aspect ratio to obtain 1080p, pretty sad if they did...lol

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Bigpappy3210d ago

If PS4 owners are happy with it, that's all that matters. If the price is right, upping the resolution and fps could be all some dedicated fans need to shell out. I am sure this game has those types of fans on PS4.

Bathyj3210d ago

Plus theres the Xbox gamers who didnt have PS3's and never played this right? Im sure there are those types of gamers on PS4.

donthate3210d ago

Personally, I would not buy this. All the dev did was up the resolution and is what I would personally characterize as lazy.

What is even the point of this?

Only so you can play it on your PS4?

The resources could have been better spent elsewhere, or at least give us a trilogy remaster. I find this offering quite insulting.

On the other hand, the PS3 version is dirt cheap now, and is basically the same game and you can have it now!

dantesparda3209d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

@donthate

Why you hating? And anybody who's played GOW3 knows its one of the most epic games ever made. And as impressive as it was on the PS3. I would gladly pay (especially since it'll go down from $40 quick) for an enhanced version on the PS4. I thought (according to all you MS fans) that framerates matter and this game is 60fps with far sharper/cleaner graphics. Why would I want to play it on the PS3 to save a few bucks when I could play a much smoother, cleaner looking version on the PS4?

uth113209d ago

@donthate- so don't buy it!

Remember nearly half of PS4 owners never owned a PS3, those are the people who this is for.

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joab7773210d ago

Would have been nice to see some additions though. New eapons, special effects, anything really.

Don't get me wrong, the framerate will be HUGE, and the game is gorgeous anyway. But I think they could have done a bit more.

I'll grab and replay a month later for $20, or hold out 6 months until it's free on PSN.

UKmilitia3210d ago (Edited 3210d ago )

the problem we have with games like thios,last of us and uncharteds.

they really pushed it last gen into an almost next gen compared to 90% of games released last gen.
so when a remaster comes along there isnt much more they can do exept add 60fps and up res because textures etc looked so nice.

im still on fence for this and cheapest i can find it is £27 in uk.

if it was a trilogy which i think it should be i would jump in without though,but without being disrespectful to devs as i love SM,i think its slightyl lazy what they done.
look at metro it was £22 in UK for 2 games.
last of us had DLC.
uncharted is 3 games for a little bit more cost.

i think this is max price new £19.99

JWiLL5523210d ago

TLoU was a significant step up visually, the higher res textures were noticeable and the 60 FPS made a huge difference, as the framerate on PS3 wasn't even a consistent 30.

Naughty Dog spent a year porting that themselves, it wasn't a half assed remaster.

This one doesn't look to have been given quite the same treatment.

Not sure how you throw The Uncharted collection in there either, when we haven't seen it yet and apparently they're making some changes to the gameplay in UC1 to be more like the sequels.

UKmilitia3209d ago

i didnt say last of us etc was a half assed remaster.

im saying this is(god of war)
its adding nothing new,unlike others we have had.

Bennibop3210d ago

Well the reviews have said how much better the game is looking so that proves this story was a load of rubbish!

HumanatPlay3210d ago

Aspire to own both a console and a gaming PC if you want to be free from these kinds of cash grabs. There is no reason for any gamer to pay for a bump to resolution alone. At the moment TLOU and Gears of War remaster are the only games worth looking at.

gedden73209d ago

What wrong with what Rimeskeen comment...?

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Sora_19943210d ago

Still find this remaster odd, looking at the last of us remaster and uncharted collection this does seem a bit overpriced should have been 30 maybe

Rimeskeem3210d ago

I doubt it will stay 40 for long. probably hit 30 within a couple months.

joab7773210d ago

As I posted, guarantee this is a PS+ freebie by early next yr.

RiseofScorpio3209d ago

It will probably be bundled with PS4s is my prediction.

Revolver_X_3210d ago

Not sure how $40 isn't worth it for the audience it's aimed at. It's really aimed at gamers who haven't palyed a GoW. Having played GoW 3, $40 is worth it if you've never played it. As for me, I'll pay $20 once it gets there for the trophy hunter in me.

morganfell3210d ago

I'm not even waiting. I played it on the PS3 and Best Buy notified me this weekend my copy shipped along with Godzilla and will arrive on launch day.

Revolver_X_3210d ago

I can respect that. Im on the fence about Godzilla. I will definitely keep an eye on it.

Scuzzlebutt3210d ago

TloU was $50... This is $40. Gears is $40 too.

donthate3210d ago

Gears is a complete remaster with extra content, game mechanics are modernized and all the maps on dedicated servers.

Even then it felt like it felt short compared to Halo:MCC, but the Gears fan in me won over.

Sorry, but this God of War 3 port is worth $20 maximum.

SoapShoes3210d ago

^ It needed it though... Gears looked far more outdated in comparison to God of War 3.

MasterCornholio3210d ago

@Soapshoes

Well Gears did come out earlier than GOW 3 if I'm not mistaken.

But I said this about GOW. It still looks very good and I'm sure that at 1080P it will look great.

Tedakin3210d ago

Yeah but Gears isn't just upscaled. They rebuilt the entire game, added all the PC extras and updated all of the mechanics to Gears of War 3.

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deadfrag3210d ago

I will pick this again when it hits 10-15€ or in second hand deal.Its a good game but for me its priced to high for a double dip.

u4one3210d ago (Edited 3210d ago )

lame. they had a real opportunity to do something more. dare i say i even expected a little more from such a great franchise. certainly not worth the price, thats for sure.

Bathyj3210d ago

Well you cant please everyone. Some people complain that they waste time making Remasters when they could be making a new game (like new games stop being made) while others complain they arent wasting more time to completely rebuild the game from scratch.

u4one3210d ago (Edited 3210d ago )

if you're going to put a remaster out or re-release an old game, it shouldn't be a $40 port of the same game running in 1080p instead of 720p. that to me is worth $10-15, tops the more i think about it.

personally i am sick of remasters. i think they should be reserved for really special versions of games long after that game has come and gone. like say - remaking the original halo with proper gen 8 graphics.... or spyro... again with gen 8 graphics... thats worth some money to me and i'd be ok with. i don't think its cool to slap a couple higher rez textures on the same gen 7 engine and push it out the door for a cheap buck. i think it sucks. i'd rather studios put the effort into new games - especially considering remasters seem to be getting more and more halfassed as the market gets more saturated with them.

in the case of GOW, they could have totally gone the GEARS remaster route. Give it all new higher rez geometry, higher rez textures, new rendering tricks and effects, new particle effects etc, bundle in the extra DLC and or have the other 2 series thrown in as well (even if those were just direct ports)... THAT would have been fantastic for GOW - especially considering it was already amazing on ps3. Thats what i mean by doing so much more. what we got was a slightly higher rez port so i say... why bother?

Automatic793210d ago

I would have purchased if it came with ascension as that is the game I wanted to play.

morganfell3210d ago

So many of the people that do not want this game on a PS4 do not have a PS4...

miyamoto3210d ago

@u4one

What if GOW3 Remaster is the game you made would you charge for $10?

Bathyj3210d ago

So you'd "rather studios put the effort into new games" but if they are going to do a remaster you want them to spend more time on it?

You seems to fall into BOTH categories I described, you complicated guy you.

For the record, I can get this for about half the price of a full priced game. Doesnt seem such a bad deal to me to relive some fond memories. Then there are the people that never played it in the first place. Are they not allowed to now because youre annoyed?

People are free to NOT BUY this games if they wish. To me it will be worth it for the 1080p60fps and photomode alone.

PS
Cant wait the the Uncharted Collection. Ive been holding off playing it again ever since UC4 was announced. Getting it Day One, as is my right to and Im not alone I think. I guess if there is a demand there will be a supply. Its how the world works.

Rookie_Monster3210d ago (Edited 3210d ago )

@morganfell,

"So many of the people that do not want this game on a PS4 do not have a PS4..."

Wow, did you just made that up? so these guys here below also don't own a PS4 too according to your logic when in fact they are some of the most well known PS supporter on N4G? Please, don't generalize that everyone that think $40 is a bit steep is automatically labeled as a non PS4 owner. Sure, there are a few non-PS4 owners thay said it is not worth it but a great majority of PS4 owners also said it too; yet, somehow you failed to mention that. If you go to any of the GOW3 HD thread, the majority of verified known PS4 owners also said the game is simply not worth it to them. You made it sound like a witch hunt to downplay a PS exclusive when in fact it is just common consensus that thay game is simple not worth it at its suggested retail price. Here are a few examples:

Verified PS4 owners that said GOW3 is not worth it at $40:

Summons75  + & amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; #160; 54d ago
"Alone, no. If they were remastering the Saga for 40 then yes."

masterfox  + & amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; #160; 54d ago
"God of War III is a stunning game, but 40 dlls for a HD facelift and 60 fps I think is steep price tag. 29.99 imo is the max price can go."

TXIDarkAvenger  +&# 160;  54d ago
"Why couldn't they bring GoW 1 and 2 to PS4? Seriously, there are a lot of new Sony adopters and I doubt they played the previous entries. I'll buy this when it's $20 but nothing more."

uptownsoul  +    115d ago
"I don't get why they don't do AT LEAST all 3 core games. Unless that happens, I have to pass"

ABeastNamedTariq  +    97d ago
"No not really (for me at least). I'll get it for $20, max."

OB1Biker3210d ago

@Rookie_Monster
Wow you sound so interested in showing disinterest. Btw finding a game too expensive is fair enough, most are IMO, nothing wrong in waiting for the price to be right for you

Bathyj3210d ago

@OB1Biker
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Volkama3210d ago

@BathyJ So you'd "rather studios put the effort into new games" but if they are going to do a remaster you want them to spend more time on it?

You seems to fall into BOTH categories I described, you complicated guy you.
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It sounds to me like he wants studios to focus on putting out quality products. Personally I can't see how that is remotely complicated.

Bathyj3210d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

So why would you think it's not a quality product? It was a fantastic game when it released and now it's going to be even better. You don't think it's gotten worse do you?

Remasters are made quickly, by a small team for very little money. What he's talking about is basically making a whole new game. It takes a lot time, a lot of staff and a lot of money, and you still can't really charge full price because people will complain it's an old game.

I just don't get why people are complaining so much about something they don't intend to get. People are free to pass on it you know. Or wait till the price is closer to what you think it's worth. I'll probably get this later. I have a back log right now. But I'm pretty excited to play this again since it's been a while and I love games with Photomode.

Besides, have you seen the article with the 320 screenshots. Have you seen how Goddamn good this game looks? He's claiming the games graphics weren't completely rebuilt from scratch yet the game was a visual masterpiece when released and now looks even better. It's as smooth and crisp as many games made specifically for current gen consoles and I don't think anyone will have any problems with how it looks and plays.

Volkama3209d ago

I don't disagree with your last comment.

But you are sounding out a guy that said "Certainly not worth the price", which aligns with your last comment anyway.

Personally I liked GoW3 but didn't finish it, and I plan to pick up this remaster. Ideally when the price on the digital store drops, because I think the price is way too steep for what they're offering (enhancements that are essentially free on the vast vast majority of my games, as I primarily play on PC).

morganfell3209d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

@Bathyj,

Here is a fact. I am getting a game I want at a price I paid weeks ago - $34.15 from Best Buy (Gotta love the Unlocked Gamers Club), and a handful of sour people are not getting a game they secretly want.

Just look who is complaining. Most of them do not have a PS4. Nothing has changed since I posted that remark unless the obvious jealousy they have been displaying concerning GOW finally got to them and they went out and bought a PS4.

You can tell the ones that actually did get a PS4. There is, or rather was, a prominent Sony hater on this board whose attitude shifted dramatically at E3. The change is palpable. He finally purchased a PS4. The rest of these individuals are just having tantrums and it is hilarious. UPS will be at my house in a matter of hours with two new PS4 titles and nothing will change that fact.

This game is great for those that want to experience it the first time and it is a high five to those like me to whom less than $40 is immaterial for the opportunity to play this opus once more but on the PS4.

What is also funny is those that beleive there is no difference, that so little work went into the game cannot also complain as if it swallowed an entire dev team for years and stopped them from working on some landmark title. If it did then the work is worth the price. If not then it didn't take an entire team years. Either way if they truly believe it is a minimal difference then dry the tears and run down to best buy and get a new PS3 version for $12. Problem solved.

And you are right, the Bard's line is perfectly applicable...

Volkama3209d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

@Morganfell I am fairly confident that you don't have a PS4. Also I don't believe you own any socks. I can tell from all the comments you make where you say you do have a PS4, and where you act like a man that owns socks.

Checkmate.

morganfell3209d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

@Volkama,

Not sure what you are going for there.

Volkama3209d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

I am discrediting your opinion by stating that you are just making things up and don't even own a PS4. It's the same approach you appear to be taking to the topic, so it seems reasonable...

You should probably get some socks before winter though :|

morganfell3209d ago

Ha ha, nice try. How am I makming things up when I am just stating the obvious by noting the remarks of people here or a long established patter evident by their post histories?

You checkmated nothing. You posted some remarks where you failed at a humor swipe and that is it. Your knowledge of chess is that there is a square board and when you get a piece to the far side they have to crown you.

You might want to attempt reading while you are at it. Here are a few juicy bits you ignored:

"@Bathyj," To whom were those remarks written? Open your neighbor's mail and reply much do we?

Checkmate

"Most of them..." Does that say most or all? Do you own a PS4? Really? Then this remark which says most, not all, obviously would not pertain to you. Otherwise...if the shoe fits...which may be driving your angst.

Perhaps in addition to the PS4 you also have a persecution complex...

Checkmate

This:

"This game is great for those that want to experience it the first time and it is a high five to those like me to whom less than $40 is immaterial for the opportunity to play this opus once more but on the PS4."

Do any of those statements apply to you?

"The rest of these individuals are just having tantrums and it is hilarious." How does that not descibe you? How many posts have you made in this forum so far over this game you do not want to buy at the current price? You didn't finish it on one platform, you think it has minimal changes worth very little so you will buy it in order not to finish on another platform?

Do you not see what is wrong with the person that describes?

You have issues not related to price. And there is of course that sock fetish which in and of itself speaks volumes about what distracted you from finishing GOW III in the first place.

I am finished because you checkmated yourself with that one.

Gazondaily3209d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

Lmao morganfell...way to lose the plot and make yourself look real silly.

"And there is of course that sock fetish which in and of itself speaks volumes about what distracted you from finishing GOW III in the first place. "

"I am finished because you checkmated yourself with that one."

http://replygif.net/i/1535....

morganfell3209d ago (Edited 3209d ago )

Lose the plot? Yes because I am the one that brought socks and chess into the discussion, right? You could benefit from Rif.org

What else were you saying? I can't hear because the awesome sound of GOW III on the PS4 is shaking the walls of my house. I know that sounds adolescent but it is on par with your post. Nevertheless the game is here and enjoyment awaits.

Volkama3208d ago

Lol this isn't chess, but if it were then you just flipped out and knocked all the pieces off the table. Just FYI, by most rulesets that isn't how you win.

And to top it off, you're still pretending you have a PS4!

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akurtz3210d ago

Something more, like what? 😒

deathtok3210d ago

Hard to say from this comparison, the JPEGs on the site are lossy.

deathtok3209d ago

LOL I see all the GOW defenders are out to disagree... over lossy JPEGs of all things as if somehow this is reflective of the game.

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Video Chums Top 10 Remasters on PlayStation Plus

"There are new PlayStation Plus tiers and I've been enjoying many remasters after subscribing to Premium so here are my 10 favourites." - A.J. Maciejewski from Video Chums

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PlayStation Store Games Under $15 Sale: Over 400 Games Under $15

Daily Video Game writes: "PlayStation Store has just launched another new digital game sale that has over 400 games under $15, including many AAA games titled "Games Under $15 Sale" for PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4 gamers right now!"

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anast688d ago (Edited 688d ago )

Dragon's Dogma and XCOM 2 are the best deals. The rest of the games are still overpriced. I would say 8.99 is good for AC: Origins, but you need to put $10 more into MTs to avoid the grind that slows down the story. So, the game is actually 18.99.

It's not on this list, but Pathfinder: Kingmaker is only $9.99. This is a deal if you have a current gen. consoles, as it runs poorly on prev. gen.

hangdang688d ago

I beat AC origins without grinding or spending any money on MTX?

anast687d ago

I had to grind for side missions. So, did many other people.

HeliosHex688d ago

Has anyone been able to login in to the ps store on ps5 I haven't been able to in days and my network is good.

RedDevils687d ago

Reset or shutdown your PS5. I always can go login to PS5, in fact just a moment ago.

HeliosHex687d ago

Hey thanks again. Although the shutdown/reset didn't work i found that resetting the mdm and hub did the trick. I use a Lan network instead of wifi. In case anyone has a similar setup and problem.

RedDevils686d ago

I forgot to mention about the router reset, that usually do the trick when it come to network problems happen with iphone/android. btw np

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God of War Will Run up to 60FPS With Performance Mode on PS5

Santa Monica have confirmed that God of War (PS4) will run up to 60FPS on PS5 with the performance mode selected. Additionally save transfer for both God of War (PS4) and God of War 3 Remastered will be supported.

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NeoGamer2321278d ago (Edited 1278d ago )

For sure this is awesome. God of War is my favorite Sony franchise! Played every God of War game to date including the remasters and on PSP! Can;t wait for the new game in 2021!

potatoseal1278d ago

God Of War: Ragnarok - 2021

It's enough to make you shed a tear

bouzebbal1278d ago

I'm proud for platinuming every single one of them..
60fps is worth a try.. Can't wait

Skuletor1278d ago

Even God of War: Betrayal?

NeoGamer2321278d ago

@SickSinceSix
OK, not God of War Betrayal. lol.

@bouzebbal
I am not that great at the genre so I have not platinumed any of the games, but I enjoy them nonetheless. I remember chains of olympus as the first game when i purchased a PSP on a 9.5 hour flight to Italy from North America. I still think that PSP was the best portable gaming device I have ever owned.

Army_of_Darkness1277d ago

That's not really impressive considering how the pro can sometimes hit 60fps on performance mode... I want to see 4k mode at 60fps. The ps5 should be more than capable of that.

NealGamby1277d ago

I’ve never played GOW. Maybe I should try it out.

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GamerRN1278d ago (Edited 1278d ago )

I want 60fps in Resolution mode though! That's what I'm holding out for. I want 4k 60 with the graphics cranked up!

I've been waiting to go back and finish this game... I just got past the part where you see the frozen giant and do all that stuff... I want to finish the story!

cell9891278d ago

Whoa easy there let’s wait for the final details on resolution

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1nsomniac1277d ago (Edited 1277d ago )

Love this site. Last gen game only manages to hit up to 60fps on new gen console if run in performance mode.

If it’s an Xbox game it gets ripped apart. If it’s a Sony game it gets gushed over.

I agree with GamerRN I’m not interested in performance mode. This is next gen it should be 60fps in resolution mode!

smashman981277d ago

60 fps was already hit in performance mode on ps4 pro some I'm hoping the same thing.

1nsomniac1277d ago

After a little reading it appears they’re not patching it at all, it’s just running as is. Therefore the games frame rates are capped so it’ll only reach what the engine lets it.

So not sure how this was even news in the first place!

Teflon021277d ago

1n
Not really, I see alot more of the opposite now. Pretty sure it could easily run 60 in performance if it was capped at 60. They'd just have to make sure it has a mode that carried performance mode features and caps 60fps. If the game is updated for PS5 features and such and only runs 1080p60 you'll see ppl complaining. The details on resolution hasn't been out so the assumption is it'll run a good rest if it's updated

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SamTheGamer1278d ago

So basically they said game will on backward compatibility mode and no next gen patch yet.

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darthv721278d ago

Performance mode is a must have nowadays. Since getting the enhanced systems... I cant play any other way (on games that support it)

I_am_Batman1278d ago

The game already had that on PS4 Pro though. It doesn't sound like it'll take advantage of the increased processing power of the PS5 for now.

Nitrowolf21278d ago

only it will be stable rather than jumping between 40to60

I_am_Batman1278d ago

Hopefully. But "Up to 60 FPS" doesn't sound very stable to me. We'll see.

JEECE1278d ago

If it has an unlocked framerate, it should.
I don't like the "up to 60 fps" language either, but I get the impression it is them covering themselves so that no one can take footage of it dropping to 57 in one very specific instance and then do the whole "Sony lied" thing online. Remember the idiotic, "only 100 games will be backward compatible" nonsense, and how long it took for that to die?

FanboySpotter1278d ago

The wording is bothering me. "Up to" ig that's fair since it's not ps5 optimized and only bc.

JEECE1278d ago

Feels like insurance against twitter trolls to me. Because if they say it plays at 60 fps locked, even if that's true 99.99 percent of the time, some nub will record it dropping slightly once, then make a big deal about it.

I_am_Batman1277d ago (Edited 1277d ago )

If it's 99.99% running at 60fps, that's for all intends and purposes as good as locked 60fps. That's generally accepted and I can't remember an example where framedrops this rare ever caused any backlash. I don't think they are worried about a vocal minority of console warriors making a fool of themselves, by claiming otherwise.

I think it's much more likely that they have to lower clocks to guarantee compatibility, which causes it to perform similarly to the PS4 Pro. Another possibility I can think of is that it runs at 60fps boosted most of the time, but some big enough chunks of the game experience framedrops due to some very specific low-level optimisation that is harder for the PS5 hardware to emulate.

It's all speculation though and hopefully we'll find out before launch when the embargo for backwards compatibility lifts.

RonsonPL1278d ago (Edited 1278d ago )

Don't be worried. Be certain
that there's no stable 60fps mode :( if they use words like this. This means it wobbles and is 60fps at times and it's not at times. If we talk about a PS4 game, this is absolutely horrible news.
There's 0,00001% chance it means 60fps 99,9999% and a drop for half a second once per game walkthrough, but first, it's so unlikely I'd say it's impossible, and secondly, if it means drops even in certain rare scenarios like some alpha effects in exlosions (I know, it's God of War. Just using an example) and stable 60fps otherwise, it's still a very bad news, cause it means either the devs are stupid or PS5 doesn't have the power to even run PS4 games at doubled framerate. The stupid dev scenario would require them to go for locked 1440p res or something significantly higher than PS4pro in performance mode, possibly with some unnecesary additional details or quality settings. PS5 should be able to maintain rock solid 60fps in GoW at 1440p. Now I'm scared it's too slow for that.
Backward compatibility mode doesn't matter much as it's like playing the PC game on a faster PC with a different CPU architecture. In the end, you either have the power needed, or you don't.

This also means there will be no rock solid 60fps mode for God Of War 2 or the GoW 2 won't be designed with PS5 in mind. If it's designed around PS4's limits, then it's not totally impossible but uncertain at least.

RonsonPL1278d ago (Edited 1278d ago )

About the performance:
There's a question of how fast the train goes vs. how many waggons it can pull. PS5 optimizations might help adding some stuff but not necessarily allow to process the same amount of objects faster. Even x360 -> Xone meant easy 60fps ports of pastgen games with significant improvements. Now it's not clear by now if we'll even get the same between PS4->PS5 and PS4->Xbox X generation jump.
Whatever the GoW 3 on PS5 will be, I don't think there are any chances for rock solid 60fps mode in that either, especially when raytracing will leave gaps if turned on, if there are not assets prepared for non-Rt lighting. GoW 3 will be PS5 only.
This is a very stupid and it's yet another step in wrong direction in my opinion as I preferred Gow 1-3 60fps and action focused gameplay rather than all that cinematic and narrative stuff which meant a regression in terms of gameplay. Simply put, GoW PS4 is less fun to play than PS2 and PS3 games were for me. By far. It was a Slasher. First they changed it into a TPP game, then poisoned the gameplay even more by abandoning 60fps gameplay (to be fair, I was already disappointed with drops in GoW 3 on PS3, but at least that was default (and only) mode and the game kept 60fps in many places allowing at least to get the feeling and "wow" factor coming with 60fps. And of course the gameplay mechanics were designed around it too, allowing for more variety and more enjoyable gameplay mechanics and visuals.

Sad to see the once great game series ending up like this. I'm sick and tired of "narrative is the only thing that matters!" approach. I wasn't a fan of ND, Insomiac, Sucker Punch, Sony Santa Monica, back in PS2 era because I cared about the stories. I was yelling "those guys are the best!" whenever I played their games because they were super fun to play, with gameplay being the priority, a game made by gamers for gamers. Not by some people who'd rather be in Hollywood, telling stories and who think movies and stories are a higher culture than gaming, who think they are so much better when they make cinematic experiences. And about the last part, "for gamers", it's probably why this comment will get 100 disagree score, but modern gamers often are not aware of what a gameplay oriented game can be, if done by one of those "best of the best" studios. It's because there are almost no such games nowadays. Even my peers tend to forget. PS2 was released 20 years ago.
Just look how many people were surprised how fun DMC 5 is to play.
But you won't get the praise on Twatter if you're just that guy who makes games (you know, that entertainment for nerds). You will get it if your game is reviewed like a movie. What is the character development, what's the story, what quality the narrative and screenplay is. Then you are above that silly gaming stuff. Now you are a serious artist. You are above. You are among those Hollywood hot shots.

Sadly many gamers love movies so much they don't even realize when they're getting robbed from gameplay. Then you see all the high scores for mediocre gameplay games, and 10/10 for GoW even despite the fact its gameplay is not even at 80% of what it could be if the game was focused on it. Yes. I dare to say it: GoW gameplay score is 7/10 or even lower. Same goes for TloU 2, Detroit: Become Human and many others.
None of those games hit that top level of quality for gameplay and fun factor. And just look how it looked back in PS2 era.
ALL of the "god tier" devs delivered gameplay for 9/10 and 10/10. ALL of them.
Now none.
60fps on PS2 vs 30fps on PS4/5 accidentally overlaps with these differences.

MrNinosan1278d ago

Que?
This must’ve been the most silly trollpost I’ve seen on n4g, and that is on a site filled with trolls.

Write a diary about something you like instead man. That might help you get sane.

RonsonPL1278d ago (Edited 1278d ago )

@MrNinosan

OK, Let's take the situation apart.

1. Who presented arguments and an subjective opinion everyone is entitled to?
2. Who wrote a pointless comment just to insult and express disagreement as if the downvote button was not named "disagree"?

Now. Tell me, but honestly. Who's the troll here?

I'm too old for this, seriously. Give me an argument or buzz off.

Harryvok1278d ago

Performance mode in the original had frame rates up to 60fps (that was the cap), but generally hovered around 45fps. 4K mode was locked at a 30fps cap, although it did dip of course. This game isn't getting a patch that changes the modes or resolutions, it's just running in BC mode with the performance mode going up to 60fps and 4K LOCKED to 30fps cap, just as in the original game. It isn't a reflection on the performance of the PS5 at all. It's just running the game as it always way in BC mode with the extra power pushing the performance mode up to its 60fps cap.

Also 'up to' makes sense. It will undoubtedly drop a couple frames here and there. Xbox 360 and Xbox One games with a 60fps cap are still dropping frames here and there in BC mode on the Series X. You're not going to notice a few frames here and there at 60fps.

RonsonPL1278d ago (Edited 1278d ago )

@Harryvok

""Also 'up to' makes sense.""

PS4pro was around 40fps as you mentioned. That's just +50% more raw power required. I understand what you're saying about the compatibility mode, but I disagree. it's not a full emulation, where you could actually make a very valid point that improving the performance by 50% might actually require much more because of the fact you're emulating things.
PS4 had x86 CPU cores and Radeon GCN architecture. PS5 has x86 CPU and a Radeon.
We'll disagree on what you can extrapolate from this, and I cannot be certain either as there's not enough information available yet, but I understand

next

""You're not going to notice a few frames here and there at 60fps.""

That's both 100% true and 100% false. Objectively this is both.

Depends on which display type you're using for gaming and then up to what are your priorities. If you can endure the horrible flicker but you simply are not interested in playing games with broken motion reproduction, then you'll not only notice instantly even drops to 57fps, but the the experience of playing the game will be significantly degraded. It's not possible to explain this without actually showing the game in properly working motion-friendly mode, so maybe this changes your mind and if not, at least makes you willing to allow other points of view as equal and valid: If the flicker is so bad in 60Hz mode, imagine how awesome are the benefits if some people are willing to suffer playing with it.
(and I suffered it gladly while playing God of War on PS2)

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SmokinAces1278d ago

I think people are taking the wording out of context, it just means its select-able up to that number. I'll give you an analogy to hopefully help it make better sense. Say you get in an elevator of a sixty story building, you can choose to go to the thirtieth floor or you can go to the sixtieth floor, if you choose to go "UP TO" the sixtieth floor it doesn't mean you're going to go to the fifty fifth floor and then back down to the fiftieth and then up to the fifty eighth and so on. I dont believe the term implies fluctuation it just represents the highest choice you can go "UP TO". That's just my two cents hope it makes sense, guess we'll just have to wait and see though if that's the case.

UnHoly_One1277d ago

What???

That's a bunch of crap.

It means it runs at 60, but not all the time. That is the ONLY reason to add those words in.

Now it could be that it might hit 59 a couple rare instances, or it could mean that it is mostly 45, but peaks at 60 occasionally, or anywhere in between.

The core of the phrase is that it is absolutely not perfectly locked at 60 at all times.

RonsonPL1277d ago

No. When the game runs at 60, it runs at 60.
When it struggles more often than rare and occasional stuff, like explosions or one boss fight per 20 hour gameplay, then it's called up to 60

Historically, looking at PS4 generation, up to means anything between "almost never" to "a bit" through "half of the time or a bit more than half".

Examples of up to 60fps which were totally NOT 60fps: Tomb Raider (the first new one on PS4). It was up to, but was nowhere near the experience you get from stable 60.
I never ever saw anyone complaining for calling it 60fps when you get a drop once per 5 hours. I call PS2 God Of War game 60fps. This one had some rare drops as well.
Up to means NOT stable 60. Period.

SmokinAces1277d ago

@UnHoly_One

I appreciate your opinion and point of view, I dont appreciate the "bunch of crap" comment, I have no issue with a counter point but it would be nice if it didn't require the hostility. We dont know if that's the only reason for those words, we truly won't know it until an official analysis is done and in the end you might be right but it could very well be a stable and locked 60fps experience as well and that's what I believe it will be and I was just trying to give an analogy as to why I felt that way.

Happy gaming friend.

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