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Sony To Reduce Day One Patch Size For Its Games; Can't Promise Anything For Third Party

SCEE's CEO Jim Ryan promises that the company will tighten up day one patch woes, at least for its first party games.

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Mostafeto3548d ago

That's good news and takes us back to the good old days of gaming where you just put the disk, launch it and play. Althogh I am looking forward to see if this reduction would be of any significance.

Alexious3548d ago

I really don't mind waiting for a few minutes. Actually there used to be huge installations back in the day on PC, with multiple discs...

Dhampir3548d ago

back in the day? lol
They still do, steam just downloads in the background and installs for most games. Dependencies, decompression, registry entries, etc all still happen.

Day 1 patches happen for anti-piracy and bug fixes. I'm just glad they fix stuff day 1. I still remember how Quake 2 launched broken. Had bugs for months.

vishmarx3548d ago (Edited 3548d ago )

to be fair we werent used to online gaming either, which is what these patches are for most of the time

GameSpawn3548d ago

It may be my internet connection or my PS+ sub with background updates, because I rarely notice updates downloading and installing.

Usually if I get a new game, the patch (if there is one) has installed before the game itself has finished installing (the pre-install that occurs within the XMB/Dashboard after you insert the disc, not the ones that occur in some games when you first run them).

Genuine-User3548d ago

I was surprised by the small 30mb day one patch for The Order 1886. You don't get to see such a small patch these days.

spacedelete3548d ago (Edited 3548d ago )

considering the game is essensially a straight line and on rails it should have a small patch.

kayoss3548d ago

How do you get one bubble? seriously i want to know.

MasterCornholio3548d ago

@space

On rails?

I'm sorry space but the game isn't Time Crisis.

You dont even know what on rails means.

famoussasjohn3548d ago

Is that possible? Usually they go gold and then start working on a patch for launch day. I thought once you go gold, you can't do any sort of changes to the game or add anything to the disc. It'd be nice regardless, less time downloading a patch and more playing.

ccgr3548d ago

So day two patch will be big?

Lazyeye793548d ago

Thats why I'm worried about. If not everything can be fixed in a small update, are they going to just leave it broken until the next patch, instead of having a larger update?

I'd rather have a 1GB update than 10 100MB updates that just arrive a various times.

Imp0ssibl33548d ago

To me it's really not an issue as I have a very fast connection.

If the alternative is delaying the game for many months, I'll choose big day one patch all the time!

Kyosuke_Sanada3548d ago

Great, I'd rather wait a few more months for them to iron out the kinks for a title than have 4 gig patch download as soon as I put the game in (which usually brings a new array of problems to deal with.)

MasterCornholio3548d ago

That I can agree with.

:)

Hopefully 3rd parties polish their games a little more to avoid massive day one patches.

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PS5 on Track to Become Sony's 'Most Successful Console Ever,' Says Jim Ryan

Former PlayStation boss Jim Ryan has said that the PS5 is "on track" to become SIE's "most successful console ever."

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Lightning77222d ago

Now he wants to say good things about PS after he laid off a bunch of ppl.

Real classy Jimmy.

Einhander1972222d ago (Edited 222d ago )

Is that the worst you can come up with? Because if I was criticizing Microsoft I could easily list a dozen things only one of which would be the 5000+ people they have fired from their gaming divisions in the past 16 months including everyone who worked on producing physical games.

Let me remind you that PS5 is selling faster than PS4, they just had the hit live service game Helldivers, Spider-Man is still charting, they have already released Granblue Fantasy, Rise of The Ronin, and Final Fantasy Rebirth and Stellar Blade is right around the corner, they also have Silent Hill and two Kojima games in the works. They also have all the big gatcha coming out of Japan, Korea and China lined up for their consoles, which let me remind you that Genshin and Honkai Star Rail made close to a billion dollars last month alone.

They also have PlayStation Portal which is selling as fast as they can make them, and just around the corner they have a 33.5tf console coming out which don't listen to the BS is going to be awesome and supporting it is going to be easy since every game already has two modes so "quality" mode will only need to be unlocked for PS5 Pro's and existing games will be able to easily have PSSR enabled for them.

So yeah, things are looking really good for PlayStation, and the second half of the generation is going to be huge when all the PlayStation developers start releasing their PS5 Pro Enabled games.

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Lightning77222d ago

"Is that the worst you can come up with?"

I'm. Sorry what? Its called facts. I forgot you love Jim Ryan even if he doesn't know or care about you. None of them do. The sooner you touch grass and grow up the better.

Ok cool so what's the point of saying all that? I know all that.

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StormSnooper222d ago

@Lightning
Except it wasn’t a fact. Ryan has left PlayStation already. The layoffs that we saw with every publisher recently were after Ryan. So nice try.

Lightning77222d ago (Edited 222d ago )

"Except it wasn’t a fact. Ryan has left PlayStation already. The layoffs that we saw with every publisher recently were after Ryan. So nice try."

That was all Ryan before he left clearly. He stepped down officially a few days ago. He was doing his good byes he even took a picture with the London Studio only to shut them down days later. Don't try and shift blame or change history it was all him.

S2Killinit221d ago

Ryan left in September. 🤦

DivineHand125221d ago

I thought the layoffs were bad. It's bad when Microsoft does it and when Phil Spenser spoke about it 99% of the comments on this site were about how Xbox sucks. When someone is commenting on how Sony layoff people, you instantly find persons that run to defend Sony. This type of behavior is not good for gaming. Remain consistent in your principles no matter who is doing the wrongdoings. Stop waving your pompoms to one side because these companies don't care about you or their employees.

JackBNimble221d ago

Ryan announced it in September, he didn't leave in September.

Lightning77221d ago

Omg https://en-as-com.cdn.amppr...

Not even a few days ago just yesterday he left.

Hiroki Totoki is temporarily taking Jim's spot doing Jim's work for 7 months until he was gone April 1 . Now anymore foolish deflection from you ppl?

StormSnooper221d ago

@divine
Layoffs are bad, but we get these guys with zero credibility, who all of a sudden want to bring up layoffs because an article says something they don’t like. All the while they never bothered when MS did more than twice the layoffs after spending 68 billion to destroy multiplatform segment of gaming. The double standard SHOULD be mentioned.

Cacabunga221d ago

I just want to see those single player first party games.. i do not like the silence from ww studios

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Eonjay222d ago

I'm sure you also would say the same thing about Phil Spencer to be logically consistent.

fr0sty221d ago (Edited 221d ago )

You tell us, he laid of orders of magnitude more people than Sony did, and you remained silent.

JackBNimble221d ago

Are you guy's defending Jim Ryan just because he was part of playstation?
The guy did nothing good for the industry the entire time he was head of playstation.
It's his bad decision's that got people fired .

Lightning77221d ago

@Frost really now? Go find the article and look through the comments and you'll see my comment mocking MS. This isn't about MS though just the usual whataboutism from you.

But cool keep making up more stories it's in your head kiddo.

Funny to see Jim Ryan is suddenly a hero on here now.

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StormSnooper222d ago

Fun fact:
MS laid off 1900 employees from MS studios.
Sony laid off 900 employees from Sony Interactive Studios.

I hope you liked the classy MS after spending 68 BILLION on buying up the industry, then firing people.

S2Killinit222d ago (Edited 222d ago )

@Lightning77
Did it upset you that PlayStation is successful?

Lightning77222d ago

I have PS so why would it upset. I'm not a weirdo did Jim Ryan do lay offs or not?

S2Killinit221d ago (Edited 221d ago )

Because you always seem to be upset when PlayStation is going good.

And Ryan retired in September. Sony laid off 900 employees recently. Every other large publisher did as well, including MS which laid off the most developers at 1900.

For the sake of proving your objectivity, please show me any comment you made about how MS showed its class by laying off developers after spending 69 billion on cannabalizing the industry. No joke, did you make any comment like that?

StormSnooper221d ago

I’m pretty sure you won’t hear back from him.

Lightning77221d ago

It's your head wanna see fanboy in everyone else because you are one. Not how it works I'm afraid.

Ryan announced his retirement in September. He was still in office Hiroki was training under Ryan hence why we've heard from Hiroki and not Ryan. Ryan officially left yesterday.

That's means Ryan did those lay offs. For God sakes just google it since it's so hard hard for you to understand.

"Sony laid off 900 employees recently. Every other large publisher did as well, including MS which laid off the most developers at 1900."

Yeah... No duh...

Wait class? MS showed no class they were candid about the lay offs and their strategy. They said no patronizing words as far as I know.

Other than that I don't know what you're even talking about. What comments do I have?

S2Killinit221d ago

Haha bravo! way to ignore what I said, conveniently. But, that answers my question. You need say no more.

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Cockney222d ago

I'm sure he was saying good things about playstation before they laid people off, not sure of your point

Lightning77222d ago

He lays off ppl and shut down a studio then wants to say good things about PS, not hard to understand. He was saying good things because he worked there, of course he said good things at the company he worked for.

They all do, so I don't know what you mean.

fr0sty221d ago

You say that like Phil didn't just give thousands of people the axe while you stood in silence. We see your hypocrisy... We know you're mad that your box just got the Dreamcast treatment, but at least try to remain objective.

Lightning77221d ago

Nice wrong assumption as always. You're a funny guy though.

Where I mocked MS

https://n4g.com/comments/re...

Anything else I can shut you on? You know know first hand I'm good at that

TheEroica221d ago

Ps5 is a turd of a console. If it outsells the ps2 Itll be the greatest paper tiger in gaming history. All pop and no fizzle.

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Profchaos222d ago (Edited 222d ago )

Also Jim Ryan by the way everyone PS2 now sold 160 million total.

Still yes ps5 is a fantastic console if the games library in it's later half follows past cycles of showing off what the true hardware capabilities are we are still yet to see it's best games.

Rockstar is going to make the console sing with GTA 6.

With Xbox floundering talk of EU stores no longer stocking the games going third party fanbase is more divided than ever and Nintendo doing its own thing even delaying (rumour) switch 2 till next year PlayStation is running seemingly unopposed I'm not sure if that's a good thing but it's the reality we are in

PhillyDonJawn222d ago

Yet you still laid off a ton of people

Leeroyw221d ago

So should you keep staff you don't need in any other business? That's called socialism.

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Official PlayStation Podcast Episode 481: Here’s To You, Jim

PlayStation Podcast returns with Pacific Drive and Helldivers 2 talk. And the gang says goodbye to an old friend.

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phoenixwing225d ago

I think Jim is getting positive send-off since on mostly on his watch xbox turned into a multiplatform machine.

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PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan Reveals PS2 Sold 160 Million Units Worldwide

Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) President and CEO Jim Ryan has confirmed that PlayStation 2 sales reached a staggering 160 million units sold worldwide.

The soon-to-be-retired gaming boss offered an updated figure during a chat on a recent episode of the Official PlayStation Podcast. The conversation saw him covering his time at Sony while talking about the company’s direction for the future.

When asked about what the 2000s brought to mind, Ryan responded with, “The 2000s? That would be, I would say, 160 million, which is the number of PS2s that we sold. A high watermark.”

just_looken225d ago

The ps2/ps3 era so many dam good games and then you got the online im sure i am not the only one with a ps2 network disc that still works and the modem/lan deal for the ps2.

Great consoles all around

Cacabunga225d ago

The same moron Ryan doesn't understand that great games not gaas is the reason why PS2 was so successful

just_looken225d ago

Ryan took charge in 2018 sense then we got the gutted ps4 update that killed simple coms 2 of the main studios dead went from multiple new exclusives on ps4 to the ps5 ghost town.

Crossplay that killed competitive gaming and just simple controller vs controller

Gaas crap like you said

Ps4 ip's just dead

hey were is my ps move support eye toy or even the ps vr support ryan?

The ps vita 2 rip

The horrible ps5 user interface

Sony push into making there games for everyone moved hq to cali now all esg

There psn chat being monitored by ai can not say/share anything now eyes are watching you

That is just the top of my head its just not the games ryan failed to understand under his leadership he killed alot of what made playstation.

blackblades225d ago

Ps2 couldnt even do gaas or anything it was forced go that one route.

Modpeel224d ago

Horrible Ps5 interface? Ya, ok. That's not a thing. At least you tried

jznrpg225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

PS2 was one of the best generations ever if not the best. Imo much better than PS3 gen though there were some great games during the PS3 gen it started out a little slow and finished strong

Shane Kim225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

Imo the classic consoles stopped with PS3. Now it's just copy and paste games, online, gaas and dlc's. This is why I really like FF7 Rebirth. Feels like a classic game.

Cacabunga224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

PS3 is my favorite PS console ever, followed closely by PS1.
PS2 was amazing but i haven’t been gaming much that gen.. too busy with schooling and stuff..
PS4 was just copy paste of PS3, like Shane said. Other than bloodborne and VR i didn’t feel there was something truly incredible and worth remembering last gen for.

FinalFantasyFanatic225d ago

I pray that my PS2/PS3 never dies, I have so many good games trapped on them, I know one out of two of my PS2s have died (I was considering opening it up and having a lot inside).

just_looken224d ago

I had my launch xbox die it was the power supply i never knew until i got a new one and after the fact opened my old one that the power supply could be replaced with a few cables :(. You never know it could be a simple ribbon cable

FinalFantasyFanatic224d ago

@Just_looken,
Hopefully it's something simple, it still powers on, just doesn't output picture/video or sound.

Relientk77225d ago

The game library of the PS2 speaks for itself. These sales are absolutely well deserved. PS2 is still arguably the best game console of all time.

just_looken225d ago

Game library and the features third console to have online mp but it became mainstream thanks to ps2/xbox then you got that sweet dvd player and the console size got so tiny. Singstar/eye toy the portable version oh also that component cable output then the whole sp game after months getting somewhat boring well gameshark it woot woot

FinalFantasyFanatic225d ago

I did main my PS2 as a DVD player when I wasn't playing games, good times.

Sgt_Slaughter225d ago

I just wish the video quality was better on the system since I've got so many classics for it. Yes, it can go all the way up to 1080i for certain games, but even today it's hard to get the right cables and the right calibration to make things look great compared to the Xbox or GC

just_looken225d ago

If you can there hard 2 find but launch ps3 consoles with backwards compatibility are great for replaying ps2 games.

FinalFantasyFanatic225d ago

I plug my PS2 into my AVR, but that seems to be more complicated that I would have expected, maybe I can find a component to HDMI converter at some point.

SimpleSlave225d ago

While I would always consider the OG XBOX as the best system during that generation - some of the games were truly next gen. So much so that the graphics actually affected the gameplay and game design - I still love the PS2. Still, it's clearly obvious that we are beyond spoiled now a days. Where the most middle of the road game has better controls and gameplay that half the PS2 library. Ditto for the Indie scene.

The reality is that the PS4 is the greatest console of all times by a country mile and the PS4/Switch/WiiU/Xbone generation is the greatest gen ever. Not even close. The PS4 physical library is almost ludicrous at this point. Then you add the digital library and there was never a comparison.

Skuletor225d ago

Your opinion isn't "reality".

SimpleSlave225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

@Skuletor - Neither is yours, bud. Still, I never claimed it to be my opinion, it was just an observation based on the quality of titles released for the console. From compilation of classics, to re-releases of classic, to its own unique library of physical and digital games released throughout the 10 years of its existence. All of it counting toward making the PS4 the best console ever released.

If you don't agree then you're more than welcome to chime in with something a bit more substantial. Otherwise, why bother?

mcstorm224d ago

I get where you are coming from. For me I enjoyed the Dreamcast the most that gen and seeing PS2 Vs DC games now I kind of know why with the output being better on the DC. I also owned a Xbox, GameCube and PS2 but the PS2 was my least used console that gan.

I was surprised at the time as I played my psx alot more than my Saturn and N64 I have found each gen my preference has changed. Just like the Xbox one, PS4 and WiiU gen I played more of the WiiU than the other two.

I'm fully off consoles at the moment and own a Rog Ally with a 3080 that I connect it to when docked and I've really enjoyed this console alot more than I thought I would.

That said the sales of the PS2 is impressive and I can see why people like it so much but just like anything in life some of us prefer other things to what is popular.

Just like I've never owned an apple product as they are just not for me.

SimpleSlave224d ago

@mcstorm - I'm pretty much the same way. My favorite consoles are the OG Xbox, the PS1, and the Sega CD with all 5 games. Then it's the PS4. So I'm not even saying this as a number one fan or anything like that.

As you said, some prefer the popular system, and that's fine, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think the problem lies when they make their taste the holy grail of anything. In the case of the PS2, the system was absolutely amazing, and I never even imply otherwise. Some legendary series were either born or expanded on that system, no doubt about it. But I think, when you step back and look at the experiences and games and franchises released for each of the systems, the PS4 is simply at a ludicrous place. And I do believe, only when looking back, people will come to realize this.

People do forget that back in those days, there were actually less games coming out. The gaming droughts were absolutely real and brutal. If there was nothing coming out, then there was literally nothing coming out. Now? There is never really a drought. When people say nothing is coming out, they mostly refer to AAA and popular games, but if you keep your eyes on the industry, you know that a plethora of great games come out on a monthly basis. From AA to Indy games. There's always something coming out and a lot of it is pretty good.

And that's probably the problem. When there is so much good stuff coming out, nothing in particular stands out. So it does seem like no legendary games are being released compared to the PS2. But there are and you just have to look for them, sadly. Especially when a lot of these games are only coming out digitally, so they become even more obscure and difficult to reach. Like I said, in 20 years, people will look back at the PS4 library and be in complete astonishment as to how they miss most of it.

As somebody that collected for the XBOX, PS2 and mainly the PS1, I can tell you there are so many hidden gems in those systems, it's pretty surprising. And as somebody that tried to collect for the PS4? I gave up. I can't really keep up anymore. It's too much. Too many great games coming out that are worthy of having in the collection, but between digital, limited runs, European and Japanese only releases, things got way out of hands a few years ago.

I would love to see a complete collection of the system. I think it'll put stuff in perspective for some.

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Sgt_Slaughter225d ago

So odd that the number is suddenly higher than previously thought right as the Switch is closing in on the long standing record.

Crows90225d ago

They stopped reporting numbers so....yeah

ShwaaMan225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

I mean I hear what you’re saying, he did just round up by 2 million, but that doesn’t mean he’s lying either, maybe just updating the official number. The Switch still has 15 million to go to beat the Nintendo DS and another 5 million (approx) to beat the PS2… and it’s in its 7th year now. Also, if it does end up surpassing the PS2 will it hold that record for another 20 years like PS2 did?
A massive success for any of the big 3 is good for everyone, it drives the competition and should be celebrated across the board in my opinion. It makes everyone notice and adapt to the winning formula which is good for all of us. I love my Switch, it’s the first Nintendo system I have owned since GameCube, but they all have their strengths and I love my PlayStation and I have had all of them. Sony caters to my preferences in gaming more than the others. But that’s me.
Fanboys are so odd, what a weird thing to flex. Hey guess what, Microsoft has sold 600 million copies of Windows 7, mic drop?🤷‍♂️

mkis007225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

Whatever your hinting at is stupid; most people assumed ps2 was above 160 million because of the time between last sales report and last console manufactured. Switch is handheld, it will always be competing in that space. Ps2 had a smaller industry as well. Unless you think it would succeed without being a portable? Wii u 2?

Good-Smurf225d ago

IKR, all Nintendo did was they finally made more powerful Wii U portable and that's plays into their strength.
And it doesn't take much to make something more powerful than Wii U even back then.
It would have been a lot lower in sales if it wasn't a Hybrid console.
PS2 was able to do that huge numbers with much smaller industry and without the help of social media and easy access to cheap fast internet.

ChasterMies225d ago

Never underestimate the trickle of sales of old hardware. I’m glad that Sony keeps old hardware (and games for the old hardware) on the market after the new hardware releases.

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Gamerscore2077225d ago

The PS2 had a phenomenal library of games for every genre. It’s unfortunate we’re never going to witness something like that again.

just_looken225d ago

Too think all those ip's sony just burred out back or tossed to companies like activision on the cheap what a waist.

mkis007225d ago

Its more of how long it takes for games to come out due to dev cycles. Think how fast sequels came out like gta 3-san andreas, god of war 1,2. Battlefront...

FinalFantasyFanatic225d ago

@mkis007,
I really don't know why more big budget studios don't do some AA titles in between bigger titles, not everything needs to be a AAA game with huge cinematic and photo realistic graphics.

jznrpg225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

Of course we won’t get as many games. It takes 2-3x longer and more money to make a game than it did back then.

rlow1225d ago

So he just came up with this fact all these years later??? I wonder if it has to do with the Switch closing in on the PS2 lifetime sales? How convenient.

NotoriousWhiz225d ago

He probably just rounded 155 to 160 million.

rlow1225d ago

Could be but that’s a big 5 million stretch. Especially after all these years we were told different

TheCaptainKuchiki225d ago

could you please NOT pretend like you know better than the CEO of said company 💀

rlow1224d ago

@TheCaptianKuchilki

I do doubt the narrative and Jim has lied before even going as far a lying to the FTC. Heck, he went and visited the London studio and didn’t hint that in two days they all would lose their jobs. While he may be quite sincere and honest about the numbers, something he could have rectified years ago. The timing and his past behavior makes it highly suspicious. So I do question the validity of his statement.

mkis007225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

You people are smoking some bad reefer with this conspiracy stuff. This is not the first time this was known, just the first time it is official. They could care less abou home console 2000's vs portable console 2010's...they are not invested in the school yard bs like you or me.

derek225d ago

@rlow1, it's you that are making a big deal about it. Why would he lie, becuase he's worried the switch will pass that total? Lol. Don't confuse the console war conversations we have on n4g with Ryan's statements on anything playstation. He was with playstation from the start and was apart of their climb to success. He would have the exact number.

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