The Tech That Built Detroit: Become Human – IGN First

Quantic Dream explains the custom technology underneath Detroit: Become Human, including the tools that enable it to run in 4K on PS4 Pro.

[DarkVoyager]

I had no idea this game run at native 4K on Pro. Nice.

[DarkVoyager]

I believe this is a mistake on IGNs part. According to GDC anyways. That or they’ve made progress since.

https://abload.de/img/detro...

[DigitalRaptor]

IGN is just reporting what the art director of the game said in this interview.

I personally think it was a slip of the tongue, which is weird that it didn't get picked up by anyone else at Quantic Dream. So maybe they worked towards making it native 4K. That would be very cool - I guess we'll find out soon.

[DarXyde]

This would be the first I'm hearing about native 4K.

I don't own a Pro, but I'm hoping QD makes the right call on that (i.e., don't scale back graphics or performance to meet a native resolution).

[Ju]

Does it really matter? The Pro version is improved on all ends. CB or not. GoW and HZD say hi. But I guess those two are unplayable in 4K, now that they use this totally train wreck of CB...

[tmisellati]

the game runs in checkerboard 4k

[2pacalypsenow]

Still True 4k - Microsoft

[S2Killinit]

Who cares, as long as it looks good and has a good story.

[tmisellati]

i have no problem with the checkerboard rendering tech.
actually games that use this tech look very good on 4k tv.

[SuperSonic91]

Damn! What are these PS4 exclusives doing?!

Are they trying to outdo each other!?

And the mind boggling fact is the the PS4s graphics keeps on getting better and better with each AAA exclusive that is published.

Until Dawn was great then Uncharted 4 graphics was better then Lost Legacy was better then Horizon Zero Dawn topped them then God of War topped HZD!

How can this happen?

Will Detroit top God of War?

This is madness!

[2pacalypsenow]

GOW, Detroit and Spider Man and that's just 2018...

[Rude-ro]

I hope they do not push for resolution..,
I have no doubt this is the company that can do it... but they also push the hardwares performance with their games. Screen tearing and such.
No knock on them or the game.
I absolutely love their games, but I would love to see it run flawlessly or close to over “4k”.

[generic-user-name]

Native 4k? That's crazy!

[DigitalRaptor]

I don't think it's native 4K.

They've only ever talked about it being checkerboard 4K, and it was only in this interview that the art director said native 4K. So either something has changed over the past few weeks as they crunch towards that gold master disc status, or it was a slip of the tongue.

[generic-user-name]

Hmm. That's interesting, Quantic Dream should probably clarify that before they get accused of false advertising if it was a mistake.

[rainslacker]

Checkerboarding is technically a native 4K format. We don't use it that way, however, anyone that works with graphics would because of how "native" is determined. Basically, professionals and fan boys tend to have different views on what is considered native.

So, likely it is checkerboarded, thus, not what most on here would consider native, but that is what anyone who works with graphics may see it as, and could easily forget the context when talking to the layman. For instance, if I was talking to a dev about it, I'd not say it's not native for the purposes of frame buffer output, because i'd be wrong, and on a coding level, it would be problematic to distinguish....although source resolution still needs to be known, but that's a whole other, very technical topic I won't get into

[dumahim]

IGN updated that Sony confirmed it's 4k checkerboard.

[SuperSonic91]

@ dumahin
Dayum!!!!

My Xbox only friend actually was convinced to buy a PS4 Pro over a PS4 Slim because of the 1080p resampling optimization on 1080p monitors.
Lucky guy! I only have a launch PS4.

[jaycptza]

Checkboard 4K

[rpvenom]

Please be native 4k. and if they were able to do that.. maybe they can share their technique with future ps4 pro exclusives to reach that too! though i know nothing about game development so I have no idea if that is possible lol

[AspiringProGenji]

Meh 4K.

PS4 pro still struggling to render at native 4k and MS stuck in the delusion that 4K will being them to the top with the X. Neither console should have existed. 4K has been a waste of resources this gen

[jukins]

Neither should have existed? Are you crazy? 4k or not the enhanced visuals details effects and in some cases framerate, and on the playstation side greatly enhanced vr visuals are very worth the asking price.

I mean either console you're paying the same as what people played at launch for a much stronger console.

[xenz]

I assume you dont own a 4K HDR television? Because to me, it’s certainly been worth it.

[Heelix]

in summary,

''the products don't appeal to me therefore they shouldn't have existed.''

although your comment is more transparent than that.

Since the Pro is not as capable as the X. Best you include how 'delusional' MS is for make a better mid gen machine.

[AspiringProGenji]

@xenz
Not yet. I have seen HDR and it is legit at least, but I really don’t see anything especial with 4K. I got an ultrawide monitor instead for my PC and kept my 1080p tv for PS4. Now UW is pretty awesome

@Helix
Both companies been delusional with this stuff, but MS has been the most for sure. After claiming the base Xbox was built for the future and that the cloud would help it with performance. So much for that... glad I didn’t fall for the hype for neither upgrades when games are looking just as good on Base PS4

@Jukins
“ I mean either console you're paying the same as what people played at launch for a much stronger console.“
You mean paying $500 more on top of another $500 either base console at launch (plus maybe Limited editions and/or a secondary console)? Yeah right... glad I got bold and saved for a PC instead

[Omnislashver36]

Damn. Quantic Dream always pulls off visuals on the edge. I mean looking borderline nex-gen.

Considering that PS5 will do even more, I've got some serious hunger for new tech. FFVIIR needs to be a PS5 title guys.

[dumahim]

I really don't think we'll see FFVII before PS5 launches.

[Omnislashver36]

Same. I'm thinking they're already making 4K textures and it will at least be cross-gen, if not, then PS5-only.

I think FFVIIR can really reach it's Apex on PS5. The "deformed realism" art style looks great on PS4 and is an improvement on Advent Children's sterile realism, but on PS5 we could be seeing something truly timeless.

[ClayRules2012]

Building a whole new engine for each new game is really impressive. I was surprised they did that for Beyond, knowing the PS3 lifecycle was ending. I respect their dedication. The developers at Quantic Dream are “Masters” of technology, just like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games, and Sony Santa Monica.

Now, I know QD’s games are nowhere near as demanding as some of those others studios games, which I understand. But having power, doesn’t mean your going to be able to showcase stunning visuals in your game. Quantic Dream has done that with Heavy Rain & Beyond, which Beyond still looks absolutely amazing, with some of the most lifelike looking character models in game.

Native 4K on Pro, that’ll be something to witness. I’ll be experiencing it on the standard PS4, and I can’t imagine how incredible it’ll look.

[DigitalRaptor]

I think demanding is a relative term, but I understand what you mean.

Quantic Dream has for a long time produced some absolutely mind-bogglingly photo-realistic visuals, especially in their environmental details, but not forgetting their main character models. The LOD during gameplay remains the same as you see in a lot of Naughty Dog, GG or Santa Monica's controlled cinematics, whereas the character models and scenery is never quite as detailed during gameplay in these games as it is during cinematics by comparison. Beyond: Two Souls looked almost a generation ahead of PS3 in parts, and I'm sure Detroit will give me that PS5 feeling at times too.

[ClayRules2012]

Glad you understand what I mean, bud.

Yeah, their tech has allowed the artists to create some truly jaw dropping photo realistic visuals, especially with Beyond. Beyond, to me, was like the generational leap from Heavy Rain, as Uncharted 2 was to Drake's Fortune. The scene on the train in Beyond, where you fight those cops outside, with the rain coming down & the wind blowing still impresses me. Seeing the level of detail on that old man in Detroit was striking. I feel it'll do that for me as well.

[rainslacker]

I'd say last gen, their games were probably more demanding than a lot of the powerhouse showcase titles that we saw from the various companies and console makers. It's just the places they put emphasis on are different than the more action oriented games, and in those places they excelled, whereas other companies didn't spend much time on them.

In the end, it doesn't matter how much changes per frame, or how much stuff is crammed into a single frame, rather what is being rendered per frame, and the resources required to actually render them.

[SkippyPaccino]

I just want it to be 4k to see Xbox enthusiasts have a meltdown... I have it pre-ordered, not sure if I'll keep it... Going to be a last minute decision

[Kiwi66]

Why would they have a meltdown when there are games on xbox one X that do 4k just like the PS4 Pro?

[Heelix]

that's such a strange mentality to have. Almost every comment has to be about the imaginary opposition.

One firsty party title @ native 4k on Pro is suppose to make the numerous native 4k titles on X not as impressive? And that would somehow cause a meltdown lol.

[j15reed]

But it's not about the graphics right?

[Einhander1971]

Next game after GOW :)

[Jinger]

Must be easy to get these visuals when you are basically just making a CGI movie with a couple button prompts.

[AspiringProGenji]

Then why don’t you try it yourself?

[Jinger]

I have

[Heelix]

you know
I was thinking the same thing

I wouldn't say 'easy' but it should be easier to push visuals/pixels in a 'game' like this when interactivity is not on the same level as a regular game.

It's more of a passive experience which is a welcome genre in terms of variety
heck I might even give it a shot.
games like this can invoke emotion in the player.
and they can also focus on telling a strong Story.

[AspiringProGenji]

Only somebody as crueless as you two would say something like that

Just because this game has a different gameplay and design doesn’t mean it is any easier than any flashy, fast pace game. This game has a system where everything you interact with affects the story and choices you make across 3 characters. That is already a more complicated system than probably anything other games are doing right now, and that does not make achieving 4K any easier. It is not like this game is as static as OP is making it out to be

[Jinger]

@aspiring

Creating code that tracks your actions depending on your choices isn't hard. Much easier than making a game where you have full control and interaction.

These games are all set on rails and just change the next scene depending on what you choose. Sure there is extra work making all the scenes, but not having to worry about full player control frees up a lot resources.

What do you think is harder to make? Witcher 3 or this game? Reeeeaaaalllyy think about it and don't come back with some dumb fanboy retort.

[rainslacker]

@Jinger

Have you ever played a QD game? It's not just an interactive movie you know. They actually have real game play between cinematic or story based segments. It may not be action oriented like Gears or UC, but there is still stuff to do. Beyond had more of it than Heavy Rain. What I've seen of a couple of the trailers, this game will have more.

To say it's just a series of cut scenes is either extremely disingenuous or a complete lack of knowledge on the subject. I'm assuming the former considering how you can't say anything good about any PS exclusive.

[Jinger]

@rainslacker

Yes i have played a QD game. The gameplay in minimal at best. Usually involves just walking around small environments.

I have said plenty of positive things about PS4 games. You guys just like to take notice tho when I'm critical.

[showtimefolks]

Jinger

Play heavy rain 2 scenes will drive you nuts

1. Where you are required to cut your finger

2. Where you have to sell your body for information

Not many games can make you uncomfortable so please stop this BS about cgi. I guess to you only games with a fake gun in your hand makes it a game

[Jinger]

I have played heavy rain. It was good, but the rest of David Cage's work has been mediocre at best.

[Muzikguy]

I’m not so sure about that. If it were “easy” we’d see more of them and that’s not the case

[AspiringProGenji]

Why does it matter which game was harder to make?

Work is still work for this developers and you are nobody to make these claims without even certificate in game design. You should be the one that needs to think what you are saying or maybe go and create a game saying BS like ''Creating code that tracks your actions depending on your choices isn't hard.'' Or why don't you apply at Rare and help them finish the kraken instead? How hard it writing code for tentacles?

[Jinger]

Don't presume you know me.

Also it's not the coding for the tentacles that needs to be worked on, it's the body.

And I'll take your fanboy retort as admission that I'm right haha you just couldn't help yourself to try and crap on SoT.

But I'll answer your question with my previous statement.
"Why does it matter which game was harder to make?"

"Must be easy to get these visuals when you are basically just making a CGI movie with a couple button prompts."

[Sm00thNinja]

In for a treat on Pro

[Xenophon_York]

"PlayStation 4 Pro users will enjoy it at 4K (2160P) resolution through checkerboard rendering and the same frame rate. The interface will be rendered at native 4K, though, and other effects such as volumetric lighting will be rendered at a higher resolution as well."—WCCFTech

😥

[PapaBop]

As every gamer is currently preparing to go God of War crazy, it's hard to believe we're just a little over a month away from potentially another top exclusive. I'd be pleasantly surprised if it reaches the same heights of God of War but the themes for Detroit Become human just have too much potential for it not to be worth playing.

[OB1Biker]

I cant wait . Im hoping it will innovate and improve the classic QD games formula, and also will gently shake up the medium with mature story telling.

[ClayRules2012]

I expected God of War to get some really great/amazing reviews, as the GOW series has done in the past.

However, I didn’t expect it to receive all the 10’s that it has gotten. It’s just 10, after, 10, after 10, after 10, after 10. It’s not just the 10’s, it’s more so reading the reviews and hearing how much fun the new combat is, along with all the praise the story has been getting, is what excites me most.

I too, would be pleasantly surprised if Detroit reaches the same heights as God of War, but at the end of the day, I’m so excited to experience the unique & emotional stories that come with Kara, Connor, and Markus.

[corroios]

Whats important is if the game is Good and not if its 4k or 4kcheckboard. The rez is already very high. I hope everything else is also amazing

[Atticus_finch]

Heavy rain was unforgettable, I cannot wait for Detroit.

[DivineAssault]

If its native, cool.. If not, im sure its still a fine game.. Resolution wont make or break it.. Brownie points but thats it

[Vizigoth04]

My backlog is deeply disappointing but God of War is definitely happening when it shows up to my house Friday. Detroit looks great too. Hopefully Sony advertises it well and doesn't get overshadowed by God of War. A month and 5 days should help. At the same time I really also want Dark Souls Remastered as I've never played any of those ones yet and would like to start off with the Remastered since it's coming.

[masterfox]

Another stunning game for the PS4, this is how a gaming console manages to reach always number One in this gaming industry, with real games!, not just some more games but evolve ones that takes you to another level of immersion!, unlike the competition that wants to be the best too, but the thing is that the competition wants to reach that level with gimmicks, old games , low level game ports, multiplayer only games, and that's pretty damn sad and delusional.

[glenn1979]

Shit man Playstation is killing it, even I'm Pc guy I'm very impress of the games that are coming out, God of war,this one, spiderman,that game of samurai from suckerpunch and death stranding?? Crap i think I will buy a Ps pro