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Ubisoft destroys core element of single player Ghost Recon

It's not all rosy in the Ghost Recon Future Soldier camp as Ubisoft ditches established modes in favour of copycat gaming.

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bunt-custardly1547d ago

Yep, this is the sad face of business that is mirrored across many game series from Ubisoft whether it be Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six or Ghost Recon. As a fan, the only thing left to do is dig out the old games or write 1000 emails to Ubisoft to get them to at least add features as extra modes to their games which appeal to the long term fan.

It's not going to happen though is it. So Kudos to Irrational Games for at least including an old school mode in Bioshock Infinite.

/rant.

NYC_Gamer1547d ago

Ubisoft doesn't care about Splinter Cell,Rainbow Six or Ghost Recon anymore....notice how Ubi pays more attention to pumping out Assassin Creed...

bunt-custardly1547d ago

Good point. They are hailing Assassin's Creed III as their biggest game launch ever.

Dark111547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

yep , and hopefully that AssCreed cow will be dead soon.

user54670071547d ago

I remember when they cared more about Prince of Persia....you know the game they rebooted then left the epilogue DLC on a cliff hanger. Will we ever get a sequel instead of Assassins Creed

....Still waiting Ubisoft...I'm still waiting

bunt-custardly1547d ago

Whoever secretly disagreed with me.

RE: AC III - Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot predicted it would be "the biggest launch in Ubisoft history."

http://uk.gamespot.com/news...

Solid_Snake371547d ago

Greed has taken over gaming. There may be a time where I may no longer buy games.

TekoIie1547d ago

Assassins creed > more shooters :/

SilentNegotiator1547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

With indie ventures becoming bigger and bigger, hopefully the next generation of developers will innovate more and bring back things that we once considered basic.

"Assassins creed > more shooters"
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Why is Madden's Creed better than "more shooters"?

MaxXAttaxX1546d ago

I was just expressing how Rayman Origins was the only Ubisoft game I've enjoyed recently. It was a good game, disagreers.

vickers5001546d ago

@Silent

Because we have hundreds of shooters already.

We only have about 5 (not counting mobile versions) Assassins Creed, and while that still is a lot, it's not quite as bad as the hundreds and hundreds of shooters we have.

In my opinion anyways. You can't really get Assassins Creed gameplay from any other franchise, but you can get Call of Duty gameplay from tons of other shooters.

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Nimblest-Assassin1547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

Well I never played a Ghost Recon before, except the beta, but the reason why is kinda obvious. Ghost Recon, is kind of a niche game, not saying that is bad, however they want to open it up which can be kind of a problem.

You lose the core fans in order for new ones, so that is the balance they have to cross. They are a business, they look at sales, this is the truth about gaming, companies like sales....

The epidamy of sales is COD, which is why every game seems to try and take ideas from COD inorder to sell more.

Personally, I enjoy when games stick to their guns.

@Dark11

Really love the way you went out of your way to call it AssCreed. The truth is that they follow a story, which revolves around the idea of 2012. AC3 has been in development for 3 years now, with ACB and ACR only requiring one, because they have a story to tell and want to do so before 2012.

"In Assassin's Creed we set up a timeline with this whole end of the world plot in December 2012... That's fast approaching, and the story we have to tell, we obviously need to do it before we arrive at that point. It would be stupid of us to be centering a game on a semi-reality and then have that conclusion happen after that date in real life."
— Alexandre Amacio, creative director of Assassin's Creed: Revelations

Also, people love AC. Its one of the 2 games a lot of people cosplay as, AC and Mass Effect.

There are a lot of people who love the games because they are unique in their sense of what they are. How it got so sucessful, no idea considering all that idiotic Jade Raymond controversy going on, but thats why they made creeds yearly after 2, they want to follow the story.

iistuii1546d ago

But when a company "sticks to their guns" people then say its the same old rehashed game, they try to improvise & improve it & people say they've lost the core gamer, they can't win. COD stick to their guns & on N4G gets slaughtered for it. A type of Horde gameplay is perfect IMO..

LastDance1547d ago

The ironic thing is is that if they went back to a super tactical multi-squad based style game a la the first rainbow six games, it would probably be hailed as a breath of fresh air and sell really well.

Ravenor1547d ago

IF GR went back to how GR1 played it would be an improvement.

bumnut1546d ago

Ghost Recon died when GRAW released for me, I loved the earlier games.

EZMickey1546d ago

Look, I agree that as time goes on, features in games get 'nurfed', publishers want to buck with the trend, etc. However, the points raised in this article aren't that accurate.

1. He states that in Guerrilla mode, solo players won't be encouraged to explore the map.

In Guerrilla mode, your team is tasked with defending a Headquarters. Every 10 rounds, the Headquarters changes location. Once the round starts, 9 waves of enemies will spawn in to try to take your Headquarters from you. The 10th round is a stealth round where enemies are unaware of your location. Thereafter the location of the HQ changes. You are FORCED to explore the map. Solo or Coop.

Also, I'm not a fan of straight up hating. I mean, I do honestly understand what it's like when you see a long standing franchise change over time to appeal to the masses and skimp on some of your favourite modes and features but the headline describing the solo play as "Butchered" is quite an exaggeration.

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h311rais3r1547d ago

The ubisoft era died with the 360 gen.

Kran1547d ago

So essentially, the PS3 gen too.

MariaHelFutura1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

GRAW was only out for the 360, the PS3 wasn't out. (If that's what he meant) He probably meant launch.

Diver1547d ago

ghostrecon died when united bought rse and christian allen took over lead design. graw was the beginning of the end.

kingdavid1547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

Rubbish.

GRAW was the first great game on the 360 and was the first graphic "powerhouse" on the system.

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InTheLab1547d ago

"My beef is, why Ubisoft? Why remove a cool part of the Ghost Recon experience that has been in every game to date in favour of a co-op based mode that can't really be enjoyed by solo players?"

Some won't like it but XBL is why. MS has been punishing single player all gen and has all but eliminated local co-op. They want you on Live with every game you purchase and frown on the single player experience.

Septic1547d ago

Xbox Live has killed local co op for all platforms? What nonsensical rubbish. The popularity of online gaming isn't down to the success of Xbox live alone. Microsoft doesn't give developers ultimatums about having online elements in their games.

Sorry but yours is a silly sweeping statement.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr31547d ago

Yeah that person's comment is rather stupid. I don't need to be hooked up to LIVE to play Skyrim or the like.

TekoIie1547d ago

You speak the truth but the ghosts disagree ;)

JellyJelly1546d ago

The paranoia is thick in here. You'd probably get agrees for writing something like "M$ was behind the assassination of JFK. FACT!"

Revolver_X_1547d ago

Stupid read. So, the writer claims that making it more co-op instead of single player driven will make ppl return the game, lacking replay value. Huh? Thats why MW3 and BF3 are so highly returned, becuz multiplayer is so boring(sarcasm intended). Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP, and I'll show you someone who wasted their money. On top of that, he's assuming that the Guerella mode or whatever its called will be too "tough" to play solo. You know what they say about assumptions. This article is a bust.

bunt-custardly1547d ago

I have to jump in to defend the article and writer Lee here. He says he disagrees with the Editor of msxbox-world who has obviously played the Guerilla Mode having posted up the gameplay footage. It's obvious via discussion with his Editor and by looking at the video that Guerilla mode is a co-op focused mode not designed for solo players even though it can be played solo. So it's no wild stab in the dark or assumption that it's too hard to play solo.

Secondly.

"Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP, and I'll show you someone who wasted their money."

There are countless games that are single player focused that include multiplayer, take Ubisoft's own Assassin's Creed and Splinter Cell games - pretty silly thing to say really.

I think you're missing the point that there are plenty of gamers who like to play solo games or those who do not have access to Internet. They get short changed not the people who love to play online games - which isn't everyone y'know.

mynameisEvil1547d ago

"Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP..."

Well, me. I bought the FANTASTIC Serious Sam 3. It's a 12 hours+ campaign and it plays in the style that I like best. In fact, it was even my personal GotY for 2011. Was my money lost? Well, if you were judging, apparently so.

Thank God you aren't the one to tell us what is and isn't a waste of money. If you did, I guess I wouldn't be a gamer because I don't play multiplayer. In fact, there's quite a number of gamers who are just like me in that regard.

Just because YOU don't play SP doesn't mean other don't. Get it through your skull that your subjective opinion on what you like is NOT objective fact.

MysticStrummer1547d ago

"Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP, and I'll show you someone who wasted their money."

Ridiculous.

scotchmouth1547d ago

I buy games to enjoy singleplayer. The world does not stop and start with Team Death Match.

iistuii1546d ago

Yeah, everyone is online nowadays & sp only games are getting rare now. They say you can't play guerrilla mode on your own, well good, it's meant to be played coop. Ever tried Horde on Gears on your own, you don't stand a chance, because it's made for team mates. I suggest the author gets some friends & plays it how it's designed to be played.

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humbleopinion1547d ago

@InTheLab, are you seriously ok? Almost every second Xbox exclusive game offers local multiplyaer: From big games like Halo and Gears, to third parties like SC:Conviction and L4D, to adventure games like Kameo (any similar game with co-op that you know of?), to arcade games like the the upcoming Minecraft and tons of other examples.
Some of these games even have a PC version which EXCLUDES local co-op, so how can you say that MS is eliminating this element where in reality is seems like it's being pushed on the Xbox 360 more than anywhere else?

mr_badhand1547d ago

Probably the single worse comment I have read in a long time.

nothing you said made one bit sense or any shred of truth. The fact you have 14 agrees shows the sad state some people think here on n4g.

ShottySnipa4171547d ago

Halo would like to speak with you.

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joab7771547d ago

I agree about how games change etc. But this is a core element? I think you mentioned that you really didnt want to play it again after u were done but at least it was something a solo player could do? So, you would be returning it anyway, just a couple days later. Theres always little replayability for strictly solo players in these kind of games with short campaigns. Do you not like teaming up with your friends to play? And many of these mordes do offer settings for a solo play. Its just really hard.

sriki0071547d ago

atleast this game is coming... With all the delays from 2009,i thought this was never gonna come..

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