Gamers Want Uncharted on Xbox 360 and an End to Exclusives
Gameplay Today explains why exclusives only hurt gamers and breaks down the walls that separate those who own only one system by showing that it all boils down to us loving games, not systems.
(Gears of War 2, Halo 3, PS3, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Wii, Xbox 360)
Well said, console exclusives are a great way of pushing a single console to its limits not like multiplats, ofc a few exceptions exist like Crysis 2 and from the look of it Rage.
Im not going to sit here and argue with fanboys. PS3 exclusives are great, but dont start with the "multiplatform games are water downed" bullshit. I only own a ps3 and although MGS4 is the best game i have ever played. Some of my other all time favourites include Red Dead Redemption, Fallout 3 and Call of Duty 4. All of those games are NOT water downed products. Exclusives might have graphical edge but thats not what i look for in a game, its gameplay and GOOD gameplay is NOT exclusive to any console.
"Gamers Want Uncharted on Xbox 360 and an End to Exclusives"
That's news to me. I've never heard anyone I know say that. In fact, it's my first time seeing such a statement on the web. With the Gears 3 beta going on UC3 being on the 360 is the furthest thing from most people's mind who only have a 360. This is definitely someone elses fantasy and quite frankly sounds made up.
That's right... I wanted Uncharted 2, so I went out and got myself a PS3, regardless of the fact that I already had a 360 for two years. Killer-apps for consoles exist, and if the guy who wrote this article doesn't realize that then his gaming hobby sucks/suffers all the more for it.
That might be true but Uncharted actually requires a hard-drive, so 360 can't even have it watered down without some 360 owners being unable to play it, which would cause a fuss.
I'm sorry but ps3 multiplats are shit due to lazy developers. I'm so glad that's things are the way are. If u don't like it buy a ps3. simple as. I'm sure you'd ra ther pay out a bit more than play a ported version of uncharted.
Exclusives can utilize ALL of it's resources on a single-platform. From a business perspective, it can really sell with potential given the right advertisement. Extra resources can be poured on graphics/bugs/QA without having to check on multiple platforms. Otherwise exclusives can simply be because the "other" platform refuses to publish it (like Haze).
Seriously this is really stupid, if there is some people who still don't understand that exclusives are the key to competition between different brands in the gaming industry, they better quit gaming...
sorry but your argument is flawed look at how many games are dumbed down on consoles vs PC only games.... then compare it to multiplatform games found accross the board..
... Everyone doesn't have the money to afford 2 systems! Especially when they cost 300-400 bucks each... that being said... I still don't think I'd buy another 360 for the simple fact that the first 2 I got RRODed
Also.. Exclusives are a great way for a game developer to concentrate on one system. Making multiplatform games isn't easy, and requires a much bigger team or a team with a lot of passion, because depending on how the game was made, they can't always "port" it over to the other systems. Not to mention that exclusives usually have a higher rate of quality... Like Uncharted 2, and Killzone 3.
Looking at your comment we can tell you really aren't qualified to speak on this subject because while yes there is the side of games being "all about fun" there is also a technical side involving hardware and software which overrides everything.
If multiplatforms arent' watered down, then why aren't your favorite games like MGS 4 and Read Dead on the Wii ?
YOu need to go out there and educate your self on technical aspects of videogames if you expect anyone to listen to you on a serious level.
Then they should have made a better choice in the beginning and picked the console with the multiplats AND the best exclusives. They should have also examined the cost of the console over 4 years rather than utilizing the "what is cheap right now" method of purchasing.
When a console doesn't use last generation technology then that console might work as the sole console. Otherwise we are limiting developers. One console would mean competition among developers instead of among hardware manufacturers.
It is a fallacy that one console would prevent innovation. Sony was easily ahead last generation, not even looking back at the other two yet they continued to push the PS2 in software and hardware. The idea that a sole console would prevent or inhibit innovation is one of the biggest misconceptions and outright lies in the forecast of the gaming future.
Why are there no exclusive Blu-ray movies that only work on Sony players but not other brands? Why are there no exclusive TV channels that only work on Sony TVs but not other brands? Why are there no exclusive music albums that only work on Sony CD players but not other brands?
oh god, if there weren't any 1st party exclusives on PS3 all Sony would have would be shitty ports, cause lets be honest, that's usually all the PS3 gets when it comes to Multi-plat games, which is why its good that Sony has so many 1st party developers, so many that you don't even need the Multi-plat games..
First Party Exclusives Games are the REASON of WHY you buy a respective Brand, without them, there would be no point in having different brands competing for your money....
Meh, without exclusives there would only BE one system and if you couldn't afford THAT you'd be screwed and would give a monopoly to someone and they're GREAT for everyone/sarc.
WTF do people want a 1st party exclusive on 360? im not going to read this article when it states something pretty freggin obvious not to mention just the heading is completely off
duh xbox gamers want our uncharted, They dont want to own the ps3 but they want our ps3 games, riiiiight.
i mean considering all they have this year is gears 3 and kinect games its understandable. Oh and to the disagree-ers please tell me one exclusive other than gears 3, because i'd like to turn my xbox on more than once this year
I agree I always thought games should not have an exclusive on specific system. If anything maybe release it a week early on a system then a week later on the rest of the consoles.
"Gamers Want Uncharted on Xbox 360 and an End to Exclusives"
LOL! Maybe the mainstream gamers reminiscent of the most sensation-driven voters, but not gamers who understand that systems need to be utilized to the best, and competition is highly necessary.
Making exclusive games allows developers to take advantage of that particular piece of hardware. When they make a game multi-platform, it means they have to cater to the lowest common denominator when it comes to system specs. If one system can't do it, neither version will get to use that feature. Only in isolated cases will the developer take the time to code a feature for one system and not the other as well. That adds to the production budget for a feature that will only increase sales on a portion of the overall market the game is appealing to.
Uncharted wouldn't be Uncharted if it were not exclusive. It wouldn't be the game we know today. It would be a game built around the weaknesses of each system it is playable on.
It's not going to happen, there is no benefit to the console maker not to have exclusives.
Maybe in the land of the mushroom king under the root beer waterfall where everybody shares and there is no thought of such things as profit margins and competition you will find what you are looking for.
"Well said, console exclusives are a great way of pushing a single console to its limits not like multiplats, ofc a few exceptions exist like Crysis 2 and from the look of it Rage. "
Crysis 2 ?
Have you played Crysis 2 on consoles ?
That game is a trainwreck.
Poor resolution, blurry textures, enemies have like super vision and auto-aim, enemies are hard to see as well.
I SAY Apple and Sony or Sega Get in and develop a Super computing System and have Sony Develop all the tech for it and So these three put an end to all this BS that MS and Nintendo has been fooling us into believe is next gen!! BS!!! Wii is 2 Gamecubes strap together. 360 is budget PC off shelf pc shovel ware low res crap! We need Apple and Sony to do something and do it now!! End this crap build some Super graphics game machine that will last !! 10 years!! Give me Raid SSD and Give my 64 cores!!! and massive 500GB ??DVD fast streaming
Multiplatform games do not feel watered down. Many of the finest games of all time are multiplatform games.
Exclusives are not necessary in order for there to be competition, there is natural competition between every game ever made. They all compete for your dollars and your attention.
Consider the world of movies. We don't have to buy 5 different DVD players just to watch all the movies we love. Yet the diversity of different types of movies is even greater than that of videogames.
Someday there may be one standard in videogames and perhaps the only difference that might exist between different "platforms" will be the different services and peripheral features unique to those platforms.
Sadly, many fanboys want the practice of exclusives to continue so that they can continue bitching at each other. That, more than anything, is their motivation. They like this fanboy war crap.
Exclusives are good for the platform holders, but they aren't good for consumers. Getting slightly better optimization in some exclusives isn't a worthy trade off for the gamer. Getting to play any game that is made simply by owning one videogame device would be a much bigger benefit.
Next generation its going to get even worse. There will be more videogame platforms than ever before and the only way to play all the exclusives will be to spend ungodly amounts of money buying all the platforms. It's a bad state of affairs.
If there was no exclusives people would just buy the cheapest machine end of! You can bang on about features but people buy consoles for games first and foremost. The reason the 360 does better than the ps3 in some places is the price. It would be pointless having more than 1 console on the market if there was no exclusives. Though I would prefer a Sony/MS console that would be truly amazing and they could destroy Nintendo and make a fortune doing so. Imagine Playstation with Xbox live network and MS financial backing? It would take the world by storm.
The reason I buy consoles is for the exclusives as those games aren't on the other consoles. With that said the only reason I still own my 360 is for Gears, and the surprisingly awesome AW.
I am hoping beyond hope that Microsoft broaden its portfolio of 1st party from the traditional halo, fable, and forza. Please Microsoft create some different games in different genres.
As people have said exclusives show what each console is about and what they can do so I wouldn't want all games being shared on all consoles it would defeat the purpose of owning them. I would kill for Nintendo to start creating some new IPs besides releasing the same damn franchises year in, and year out.
@VG_Releaser I suppose the competition would then come down to who has made the best console, e.g how many GB the console has what sort of features are on the console, the cost of the console and what sort of features they are going to bring to the system. What social features they got on their console. etc
I prefer both, which is why I have both. I love both for their respective reasons. Win-win situation. Btw, I didn't disagree with you, though It would appear you have with me.. Why I don't know. I never said Uncharted was better than Zelda. I see, you didn't like the idea of a Nintendo exclusive coming over to the PS3. Hmmmmm....
Having played both Uncharted 1 and 2, I could easily live without it if I only owned a 360. I didn't care too much for either games. Personally, if I was asked which PS3 exclusive I could have on 360, it would be LittleBigPlanet or Heavy Rain. Love both those games.
mmmmm.. maybe just Gears... loved Gears 1 Gears 2 a bit of a let down... i sold my 360 back in Jan of 2010, and im waiting for a price drop at E3, so i can play Gears 3.... so all you beta testers better complain about any and every glitch you find.
@ theonlylolking.... i remember that would happen alot in Gears 2.... where one would spawn without a gun...so annoying yet funny.... if my friends or i would start without a gun then that person would be designated the decoy lol... but i really hope Gears 3 turns out awesome.
SuicideShaun-I think you will find quite a lot of PS3 only gamers feel a similar way to Crystallis. It's mot that Halo is poor(it's great series) but it's certainly less of an everyman's game in the way Gears is because it's so synonymous witrh it's platform by this stage whereas Gears has only one gen of Xbox heritage. what ths has meant, in my experience, is the gamers who WANT and LOVE Halo have nearly, to a man, BOUGHT a 360 ALREADY purely for Halo3,ODST or Reach. Point being I doubt there's that many Halo fans left who don't own a 360 making those left on other consoles pretty unlikely to be massive Halo fans and , anyway, it's always been a love it or hate it type of game among me and my mates.
I like Halo, and the 360 just fine(just prefer my PS3 overall)but I DO think Halo's fanbase is firmly, already in the camp of owning a 360 making PS3 only gamers way more likely to envy Gears than Bungies creation at this point in time.
On fact my only personal issue with Halo is that I'd like the SP to feel as important as the MP does these days. Not a biggie and I can't moan about them going where I think more fans wanted them to and making the MP the most feature heavy thing out there. Gears, though, like Uncharted on the other console seems to be THAT game that people just like regardless of platform and therefore they will want it more in threads like this.
multiplatform games hurt gamers.... the developers are forced to sacrifice features to accomodate all platforms.... im sure final fantasy could have been better had it just been ps3
And then they can butcher our game library, replace it with a plastic peripheral to play dance games on, put a self destruct timer in our consoles, bloat our operating system, put ads everywhere, fire all of our studios and make us pay a ridiculous price just to get online too! YAY! /s
I'm just playing around guys. Obviously no company would ever do that to their customers and products. ;)
Exclusives are about defining the ethos of platform. Stuff like Super Mario defines Nintendo's goal for quality, polished, accessible content. Similarly, Sony's emphasis on games like Wipeout in the early days of PlayStation separated the PSone from the "cute, kiddy, toy" image that Nintendo and SEGA carved out for the industry in the 16-bit days.
Without exclusives, what would be the point in different consoles? You'd essentially own a set-top box. You wouldn't own a PlayStation or an XBOX, you'd own a "Sony Games Console" or a "Microsoft Games Console".
Exclusives carve out a personality for their respective consoles, and while it might sound ideal to have every game available on one system, in reality it's a very bad idea and I hope it never happens.
I am a Sony fanatic but I do have an xbox and wii for the fantastic exclusives they have. More so the wii, that console has some awesome exclusives....mario kart, galaxy 1 and 2, sin and punishment, little king story and soo much more! Anyone who thinks the wii has "teh crap games" is a blatant fanboy.
Well, I don't know about that. I wouldn't say you're missing out on much if you don't own a Wii. You should own a 360 and PS3 though. Forget that 3rd console nonsense.
I like Nintendo just fine. N64 may be my favorite console of all time. Plus I can't even fathom how many hours I've put into a DS/ Gameboy for Pokemon games. I just don't like the Wii. I wouldn't call myself a fanboy. I will gladly give the next console a shot.
I own all the consoles, always have. I think I prefer exclusives to remain exclusives however. It eliminates fanboys really.
Nothing is ever exclusive to me. However that being said I also feel like exclusives as being a reason to own one console over another is kind of a thing of the past. This year is the perfect example of that with Multiplatform games like Dragon Age 2, Rage, BulletStorm, Portal 2, Mortal Kombat, Marvel Vs Capcom 3, Batman Arkham City, Homefront, Battlefield 3, Crysis 2, Skyrim and a ton of other quality multiplatform games.
In all honesty there is never an abundance of them that I am actually interested in.
I like Gears and Halo, I like Uncharted and God Of War. It's not like if Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo has 100 exclusives each per year that I would like or buy all of them simply because they are exclusive.
I like a wide range of games, mostly games with a solid online aspect.
True, 90% of games are multip on consoles, on PC it's different case, but they really don't matter that much. Ofcourse Lost Odyssey is reason enough to get X0, or UC is to get PS3, but in the end, exclusives are fishes in the sea.
Exclusives is what keeps us gamers excited especially when they are proven exclusives. Kinda like how I cant wait to see starhawk. Its going to be awesome.
Yeah, I don't know what this article is talking about... no exclusives means death to the industry. It isn't just this way, it is this way in all of business.
F**k that noise... It was due to exclusive titles that led me to purchase a PS3 two years after a 360, and it was the greatest gaming decision I had made in a long time. I wouldn't have Uncharted on anything else other than a Sony console.
"Gameplay Today explains why exclusives only hurt gamers and breaks down the walls that separate those who own only one system by showing that it all boils down to us loving games, not systems."
The irony of it all is THAT is how the gaming industry grew up to be in the first place.
The only major difference is that devs aren't using console powers to their full capabilities, and just focus on quantity instead of quality.
50°
120°
60°
80°
Ad 
100°
10°
40°
40°
30°
30°
there needs to be exclusives not just for competition but they let their consoles shine in a way that a multiplatform game could never be able to.
That's news to me. I've never heard anyone I know say that. In fact, it's my first time seeing such a statement on the web. With the Gears 3 beta going on UC3 being on the 360 is the furthest thing from most people's mind who only have a 360. This is definitely someone elses fantasy and quite frankly sounds made up.
I wanted Uncharted 2, so I went out and got myself a PS3, regardless of the fact that I already had a 360 for two years. Killer-apps for consoles exist, and if the guy who wrote this article doesn't realize that then his gaming hobby sucks/suffers all the more for it.
Without competition then there would be only same games from EA!! No please no!
That might be true but Uncharted actually requires a hard-drive, so 360 can't even have it watered down without some 360 owners being unable to play it, which would cause a fuss.
but since the PS3 has a lot more exclusives, the easiest way is to bring the few exclusives the 360 has to the PS3 thus making it the only console
-End statement
AND THE WHOLE WORLD SHOULD SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE.
/.sarc
superior graphics of PS3 exclusives....
Being on Xbox 360 means, the graphics would have to be downgraded.
AND THE WHOLE WORLD SHOULD SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE.
/.sarc"
you honestly don't think that would be a good thing?sure it'll never happen(probably) but it would be great if it did...
a Majority of muliplat games are watered down .. not all
@Pikajew
Then they should shut up and make due with what they got
sorry but your argument is flawed look at how many games are dumbed down on consoles vs PC only games.... then compare it to multiplatform games found accross the board..
Everyone doesn't have the money to afford 2 systems! Especially when they cost 300-400 bucks each... that being said... I still don't think I'd buy another 360 for the simple fact that the first 2 I got RRODed
Exclusives are a great way for a game developer to concentrate on one system. Making multiplatform games isn't easy, and requires a much bigger team or a team with a lot of passion, because depending on how the game was made, they can't always "port" it over to the other systems. Not to mention that exclusives usually have a higher rate of quality... Like Uncharted 2, and Killzone 3.
Looking at your comment we can tell you really aren't qualified to speak on this subject because while yes there is the side of games being "all about fun" there is also a technical side involving hardware and software which overrides everything.
If multiplatforms arent' watered down, then why aren't your favorite games like MGS 4 and Read Dead on the Wii ?
YOu need to go out there and educate your self on technical aspects of videogames if you expect anyone to listen to you on a serious level.
games made by SONY and MS are exclusive and you can't whine about it
It's a Sony game. It will never be multiplatform.
It's that simple.
Then they should have made a better choice in the beginning and picked the console with the multiplats AND the best exclusives. They should have also examined the cost of the console over 4 years rather than utilizing the "what is cheap right now" method of purchasing.
When a console doesn't use last generation technology then that console might work as the sole console. Otherwise we are limiting developers. One console would mean competition among developers instead of among hardware manufacturers.
It is a fallacy that one console would prevent innovation. Sony was easily ahead last generation, not even looking back at the other two yet they continued to push the PS2 in software and hardware. The idea that a sole console would prevent or inhibit innovation is one of the biggest misconceptions and outright lies in the forecast of the gaming future.
Why are there no exclusive Blu-ray movies that only work on Sony players but not other brands?
Why are there no exclusive TV channels that only work on Sony TVs but not other brands?
Why are there no exclusive music albums that only work on Sony CD players but not other brands?
There is NO reason for gaming to be different.
and if you can't afford a PS3, the don't by five games and use that money on a PS3.
Problem solved.
i mean considering all they have this year is gears 3 and kinect games its understandable. Oh and to the disagree-ers please tell me one exclusive other than gears 3, because i'd like to turn my xbox on more than once this year
Related image(s)
LOL! Maybe the mainstream gamers reminiscent of the most sensation-driven voters, but not gamers who understand that systems need to be utilized to the best, and competition is highly necessary.
[360 Fanboys] "Want Uncharted on Xbox 360 and an End to Exclusives"
Uncharted wouldn't be Uncharted if it were not exclusive. It wouldn't be the game we know today. It would be a game built around the weaknesses of each system it is playable on.
Maybe in the land of the mushroom king under the root beer waterfall where everybody shares and there is no thought of such things as profit margins and competition you will find what you are looking for.
Crysis 2 ?
Have you played Crysis 2 on consoles ?
That game is a trainwreck.
Poor resolution, blurry textures, enemies have like super vision and auto-aim, enemies are hard to see as well.
I'm not buying another Crytek game.
PS3 version btw.
If Halo, Gears, wouldnt have campaign co-op!
Thats important!
Killzone 3, Resistance 3, no co-op, explain that?
Uncharted 3 same thing, where the hell is co-op when there's an AI running with you the entire game?
Makes no fuc**** sense,.. Gears2,3 and english Vesparia(asian version might be translated)? It is a joke of a system,..
Wii is 2 Gamecubes strap together.
360 is budget PC off shelf pc shovel ware low res crap!
We need Apple and Sony to do something and do it now!! End this crap build some Super graphics game machine that will last !! 10 years!!
Give me Raid SSD and Give my 64 cores!!! and massive 500GB ??DVD fast streaming
Exclusives are not necessary in order for there to be competition, there is natural competition between every game ever made. They all compete for your dollars and your attention.
Consider the world of movies. We don't have to buy 5 different DVD players just to watch all the movies we love. Yet the diversity of different types of movies is even greater than that of videogames.
Someday there may be one standard in videogames and perhaps the only difference that might exist between different "platforms" will be the different services and peripheral features unique to those platforms.
Sadly, many fanboys want the practice of exclusives to continue so that they can continue bitching at each other. That, more than anything, is their motivation. They like this fanboy war crap.
Exclusives are good for the platform holders, but they aren't good for consumers. Getting slightly better optimization in some exclusives isn't a worthy trade off for the gamer. Getting to play any game that is made simply by owning one videogame device would be a much bigger benefit.
Next generation its going to get even worse. There will be more videogame platforms than ever before and the only way to play all the exclusives will be to spend ungodly amounts of money buying all the platforms. It's a bad state of affairs.
ARE THEY SERIOUS?? END OF EXCLUSIVES??? no more bickering what game is better on what console
NAHHHH! its the N4G way.
disagrees highly welcome if u must.
it is what it is
I am hoping beyond hope that Microsoft broaden its portfolio of 1st party from the traditional halo, fable, and forza. Please Microsoft create some different games in different genres.
As people have said exclusives show what each console is about and what they can do so I wouldn't want all games being shared on all consoles it would defeat the purpose of owning them. I would kill for Nintendo to start creating some new IPs besides releasing the same damn franchises year in, and year out.
I suppose the competition would then come down to who has made the best console, e.g how many GB the console has what sort of features are on the console, the cost of the console and what sort of features they are going to bring to the system. What social features they got on their console. etc
"storage limitation" and CPU !
I think,Zelda much better(GAME)Uncharted....
Uncharted awesome visuals,but......
LMFAO just buy all the consoles, so you wont have to cry about Exclusives.
I brought most(if not all) of my 106 games by myself.
Where did you bring them?
GameStop (pay 2 used get 1 free helped alot) and Amazon(they always have low prices).
Shame on you! The only second hand games I own are activision.
I like Halo, and the 360 just fine(just prefer my PS3 overall)but I DO think Halo's fanbase is firmly, already in the camp of owning a 360 making PS3 only gamers way more likely to envy Gears than Bungies creation at this point in time.
On fact my only personal issue with Halo is that I'd like the SP to feel as important as the MP does these days. Not a biggie and I can't moan about them going where I think more fans wanted them to and making the MP the most feature heavy thing out there. Gears, though, like Uncharted on the other console seems to be THAT game that people just like regardless of platform and therefore they will want it more in threads like this.
However, I do agree. Plus everything Microsoft touches turns to sh*t and dies - R.I.P Skype.
You have no clue what you're talking about, do you bro?
I'm just playing around guys. Obviously no company would ever do that to their customers and products. ;)
Without exclusives, what would be the point in different consoles? You'd essentially own a set-top box. You wouldn't own a PlayStation or an XBOX, you'd own a "Sony Games Console" or a "Microsoft Games Console".
Exclusives carve out a personality for their respective consoles, and while it might sound ideal to have every game available on one system, in reality it's a very bad idea and I hope it never happens.
and Wii ...? LOL
Nothing is ever exclusive to me. However that being said I also feel like exclusives as being a reason to own one console over another is kind of a thing of the past. This year is the perfect example of that with Multiplatform games like Dragon Age 2, Rage, BulletStorm, Portal 2, Mortal Kombat, Marvel Vs Capcom 3, Batman Arkham City, Homefront, Battlefield 3, Crysis 2, Skyrim and a ton of other quality multiplatform games.
I like Gears and Halo, I like Uncharted and God Of War. It's not like if Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo has 100 exclusives each per year that I would like or buy all of them simply because they are exclusive.
I like a wide range of games, mostly games with a solid online aspect.
True, 90% of games are multip on consoles, on PC it's different case, but they really don't matter that much. Ofcourse Lost Odyssey is reason enough to get X0, or UC is to get PS3, but in the end, exclusives are fishes in the sea.
No exclusives, no competition.
It was due to exclusive titles that led me to purchase a PS3 two years after a 360, and it was the greatest gaming decision I had made in a long time. I wouldn't have Uncharted on anything else other than a Sony console.
The irony of it all is THAT is how the gaming industry grew up to be in the first place.
The only major difference is that devs aren't using console powers to their full capabilities, and just focus on quantity instead of quality.