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Rumor: PSN hackers attacked Admin Dev accounts; services returning in a day or two

PSU writes: "A source with close connections to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe reports that the attack to the PlayStation Network may be a bit deeper than originally reported by Sony. According to the source, who wishes to remain anonymous, the PSN sustained a LOIC attack (which created a denial-of-service attack) that damaged the server. There was also a concentrated attack on the PlayStation servers holding account information. In addition, “Admin Dev accounts were breached.”"

Warprincess1165182d ago ShowReplies(1)
TheFreak5182d ago

Why USA? Americans are not buying the ps3 like the japanese and europeans are...

LOGICWINS5182d ago

Don't know why your getting disagrees. Everything in your comment is factual evidence.

AntoineDcoolette5182d ago

I'd personally like to see reliable statistics. Its probably due to the generalization that he made about no Americans purchasing PS3s when its a flat out lie.

LOGICWINS5182d ago

^^Ummm..where did he say that "no Americans are purchasing PS3s"?

AntoineDcoolette5182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

read it again and tell me how it doesn't sound like a generalization. PS3 has sold more units in USA than Japan it just has a lower consumer to population ratio than Japan and is harder to distribute due to the large size of the nation.

Again I'd like to see a legitimate trust worthy source. I'd even take Sony's word themselves above that of any user on this site.

XRider5182d ago

AntoineDcoolette you have an internet browser and you're asking for facts?

rockleex5182d ago

You know what?

While PSN is down, you could try your hand at the MOST DIFFICULT GAME EVER!

http://www.foddy.net/Athlet...

For a glimpse of what the game is about and how hard it is, plus tons of laughter, check this Youtube video out.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

BattleAxe5182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

Actually they should restore access to Canada first.......just because. Then maybe the Americans would blame us for something else.

kuroukage5182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

Canada is the U.S.'s hat.

mendicant5181d ago

@AntoineDcoolette,

I don't think you can simply dismiss this so easily by stating that:

"PS3 has sold more units in USA than Japan it just has a lower consumer to population ratio than Japan and is harder to distribute due to the large size of the nation."

I would argue that this is somewhat true in one case and false in another.

While it is true that our larger nation of 360+ million have purchased more PS3's than that of Japan, if you compare that to the number of people who are gamers and the number of Americans who previously owned a PS2 but didn't upgrade, that figure becomes moot. Let alone considering the paultry number of PS3 owners in America versus the overall previous stated popultion. Said density isn't an excuse.

Your second point really doesn't make sense. The size of the country has little to no basis in a modern industrial supply side economic soiety. Goods of all types, perishable or not, make it across the country daily. Using a mix of transportation systems, if there is a consumer drive for it, the powers that be will get it to you...for the right price of course. The size of the nation has absolutely nothing to do with anything. We overnight documents for crying out loud.

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Brosy5181d ago (Edited 5181d ago )

@warprincess
Whats different about the cyber terrorist multi account sony fanboys here at N4G and these freedom fighters that have brought down PSN? Doesn't each have their own way putting out false propaganda? Maybe the FBI should round up some of the proxy using Sony fanatics here at N4G. Do you think that will happen?

Brosy5181d ago

Maybe if the Sony fanatics here at N4G hadn't bad mouthed and name called members of Anonymous you wouldn't be waiting. Thank the internet tough guys for PSN being down. I mean how stupid do you have to be. Maybe you shouldn't call the person with their finger on the trigger names.

Kemicalbeliefs5181d ago

You can have your ball back too.

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IMChampion5182d ago

Wow this is some serious stuff. If true the source is right. People do deserve to know what is going on. As mad as I am, whats pissing me off even more is the very vague and lack of info Sony is dishing out. This makes me feel a whole lot more informed, however true or not it might be.

lee_ten5182d ago

...if you ran a company like that and there was a service attack, would you blab everything out to the public to tarnish your reputation?

i'm sure sony has their reasons for not going public with this and once they fix everything, they'll give the rundown on the situation. i'm just glad my ps3 died before this happened because i would have been very upset as well.

IMChampion5182d ago

You misunderstand, I don't expect them to come out and tell the world what is happening, that would be dumb on their part. I'm just saying giving useful info would be appreciated more than giving vague ones.

lee_ten5182d ago

guess i did. sorry. :[

sdtarm5182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

@IMCChampion

what could've they tell us?

CommonSense5182d ago

your comment makes no sense. you're glad your ps3 died because if it hadn't you'd be upset? that makes no sense. shouldn't you be upset about it dying? i dunno about you, but i'd rather have a working system that i can play offline, than a broken one that i can't play at all.

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darksied5181d ago

The thing about releasing more information than is necessary is that things can backfire. They don't want to release the actual attack details because who knows? Maybe other people will see this as a sign of weakness and attack them again. Let them fix it first an then we'll see if they're willing to share. I don't think many people will care once the PSN is back up.

rdgneoz35182d ago

@Warprincess The FBI is going after them.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... - "The FBI have issued 40 arrest warrants" and 5 arrested in UK.

Columbo5182d ago (Edited 5182d ago )

Except the video is really from January 2011 when the whole Wiki Leaks and Mastercard DDOS stuff was going on. This has nothing to do with Sony or PSN. The youtube uploader falsely titled the video. You can tell by the news scrolling across the bottom of the screen.

Here is one of the stories:
http://www.reuters.com/arti...
Another one:
http://english.sina.com/wor...

firetaw5182d ago

being part of an ideal doesnt mean you cant be found.

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted6d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast6d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay6d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted6d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34856d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK6d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor47d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv7247d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv7247d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv7246d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr47d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation47d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde47d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z50147d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer45d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing6947d ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave47d ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit47d ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno47d ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit47d ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay47d ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv7247d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. And the series X with 2TB is more expensive. Which in my opinion is insane conseidering how much more powerful the PRO is. The PS5PRO does not need a stand, it can be used without a stand.

TheKingKratos47d ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania47d ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox47d ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj47d ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted47d ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit47d ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow147d ago (Edited 47d ago )

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania47d ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox47d ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Well, the facts in the article are positive. Nothing wrong with his comment, but in my opinion it doesn't correctly indicate all the facts and nuances that give context to the reality of things. I downvoted for that only.

Make sense?

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Lightning7747d ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts47d ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango47d ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

We have Ghost and Intergalactic coming. And then Marathon which is not exclusive to PlayStation. I think Covid and that chip shortage put a speedbump in game development because game manufacturers dont want even more risk that their game will arrive to too little hardware, but the games are starting to show up.

Lightning7747d ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts47d ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

S2Killinit46d ago

I agree with you. But they have had plenty of exclusives so far. Has it been ideal? Nope. I have a feeling we are seeing a resurgence with the effects of covid and that chip shortage now behind us.

Lightning7747d ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

I agree. But the problem with xbox was that for some crazy reason MS thought game development wasnt all that important to a platform holder. They literally did not fund games with their own studios. When they lost marketshare they couldnt justify paying for exclusives with large install bases making it too expensive. That is not the scenario with PlayStation.

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