PS3 Version of MGS : Rising is better than other versions

"PS3 Version of MGS : Rising is better than both other versions. PS3 is a powerful game console and good for Implement our ideas." said this MGS:Rising producer, Shigenobu Matsuyama on a interview with CVG!

[Wizziokid]

and so it should be

[Dragun619]

So does this mean we can expect Move support for MGS:Rising?

[Reaseru]

I would like that...

:D

[PLASTICA-MAN]

but the PS3 version will be better in many other domains since it will have better content and more references and allusions to PS MGS released games. See MGS Rising E3 trailer and you will notice a Peace Walker poster behind a soldier, this was the PS3 version shown and the others will have these kinds of secrets removed, since they are irrelevant for them and exclusive to Sony consoles without forgetting that slicing will be more fun and accurate to play with PS Move.

[vsr]

PC and xbox players don't know about MGS. Right game for the right platform.

[PLASTICA-MAN]

In MGS Rising, Raiden will be riding Crying Wolf and using her like a bulldozer (or the cyclops in GOW3), MGS4 players know what I am talking about since they have a PS3 and MGS4 (of course); try to explain that to the other platforms (occasional) players! :x !

http://i40.tinypic.com/fx6z...

[LiL T]

@gypsygib HAHAHAHA! Yea just like you guys invented stealth bombers and space shuttles right RIGHT!!!!
Open your eyes u... actually open a book up just make sure it wasn't written by american's you will be misinformed for sure.

[rockleex]

Now lets just hope there's no more Konami ID. -_-"

[sikbeta]

I can hate this game all I want for not having Solid Snake as the Main Character and cos it's not a Real MGS Game, but damn, just for having the MGS in the title I'll buy it :P

[krisq]

I hope so. Or I will cut myself.

[Commander_TK]

It won't be better than the PC version. I mean, let's face it people. All multiplats r better on PC except for a few shit ports like Black Ops.

However, the PS3 version will better than the 360 version, and will probably have the best controls of all three versions.

[Arkham]

Hopefully! I want to tape a couple of Move controllers to my feet and spin around on my head.

Take *THAT*, Geckos!

[SeanScythe]

@Commander_TK

"PS3 Version of MGS : Rising is better than BOTH OTHER versions. PS3 is a powerful game console and good for Implement our ideas." said this MGS:Rising producer, Shigenobu Matsuyama

What part of that didn't you understand?

[HaHa_Ostrich]

I can see PC gamers care for Rising. The first two games came out on PC, and Rising is set after the second game. Even xbox fans may have played mgs2.
So yes, playstation got the most of mgs saga but this universe is bigger than just one platform. Enjoy games, not platforms, they say :)

[NeutralGamer]

"PC and xbox players don't know about MGS"

Is that so? I've probablye played more MGS games than you... I have plyed 12 of the MGS titles and even red the comics...

[darthv72]

I'll still get it for the 360. That way I will have a metal gear game for almost every major platform since the NES with the exception of SEGA hardware and the SNES/N64.

NES: Metal Gear
GCube: Metal Gear Solid (Twin snakes)
Xbox: Metal Gear Solid 2 (substance)
PS2: Metal Gear Solid 3
PS3: Metal Gear Solid 4
360: Metal Gear Rising

[starchild]

I'll believe it when I see it. Developers say all kinds of funny things. If the PS3 version looks better than the PC version then that means that they purposely held back the other versions just to artificially make the PS3 version better. Some how I highly doubt this.

[AAACE5]

Move support for Rising would be an excellent addition!

But didn't so many Ps3 fans say Rising would suck because it's going multiplat?

[NukaCola]

I do like that both the PS3 and PC version are getting 3D support(not positive on 360 as of now) Move is a given, as you can slice around but for those slow mo cuts, I would like to draw lines instead of just aligning up the semicircle cutting marks.

You have earned a trophy! Chop Suey: Slice an enemy up into more than 20 pieces. <--- I hope this is something I can look forward to. The game as of now looks sick as hell and more fluid than even Ninja Gaiden in the slicing and dicing combat.

Lastly, NOTE TO KOJIMA GAMES,
you better not ruin the story, put in less than 3 hours of cutscenes, or do anything stupid. I get this is multiplatform but this is also one of my favorite series and the fans who played mg since NES and mgs on PS One through PS3 are hoping to see another masterpiece.

Bonus request, I would like to see a split screen scene like in MGS4 but this time where you can play as Rai Rai fighting ol' Vamp as Snake battles ghecko instead of the the visa versa. Would be a huge tribute to MGS fans. I hope this game is full of MGS easter eggs. Dont let being on 360 stop you from adding all the things that make this game unqique. People need ot know that MGS is Playstation, and everything that is the system and that is the series is tied together. Dont break that bond.

[JoySticksFTW]

@AAACE5

Actually, fans were upset for two reasons...

First, Kojima kept making it seems like he wouldn't be that involved and that he was letting the junior team take the lead.

Second, the tag line seemed to suggest an emphasis on action as opposed to stealth

I'm not gonna lie. I had concerns about both at first. But after it settled in, I just want another current gen MGS game.

Very excited about this game.

And these comments are f'n hilarious!

Love N4G :)

And good point about trying to explain MGS4's events like riding Crying Wolf.

If you're trying to put the MGS story together, MGS4 is probably the worst one to miss.

"Teh cut seenz!!11"

MGS4 tied up the story nicely

[Shani]

That would b awesome. I have imagined playing this game with move. I really hope they support move.

[evilmonkey501]

Theres no way in hell this WONT support MOVE people. Think about it. If this is getting kinekt support, expect full move support as well. Also, to you PC defenders: The reason its better on PS3 is BECAUSE OF THE MOVE CONTROLLER.

[NatureOfLogic]

This is the game that will make me buy PS Move.

[DigitalAnalog]

"NES: Metal Gear"

BLASPHEMY! You should either play that on the MSX or the Subsistence version of MGS3!

-End statement

[Kurylo3d]

anytime anyone says a ps3 is more powerful then the pc platform... u know they are full of crap and have alterior motives for saying what they are saying.

If you dont see that you are blind.

[Chubear]

^^ wow, how insecure are you about your gaming lol

[Kurylo3d]

i dont even know what your saying. What does insecure about your gaming even mean? Whats to be insecure about? How does one be insecure about gaming?

Edit* By the way... i love how people disagree with me about me asking a question.. there isnt even anything to disagree about. lol... any comment that doesnt praise a ps3 as a god send is a disagree on this website lol..

[Tommykrem]

Haha, you are insecure!
He didn't even say the PS3 is more powerful than the PC, at least not from what I got from Google translate, so relax.

There are more PS3 fanboys on N4G, but the PC fanboys can be incredibly aggresive!

EDIT: Cell and Blu-Ray are japanese technologies, Nvidia who made RSX are multi-national (though based in America) so it's very difficult to say that PS3 tech is american, even though it certainly has some american tech in it.

[STK026]

He does mention "hardware constraints" as a reason the PS3 version will be superior to the two other versions. I can't see how PC hardware would limit the game, and I surely can't see how the PS3 version would be superior to the PC version graphic wise, unless they pull a weird move and limit the PC version to 720p or something.

[VINNIEPAZ]

"By the way... i love how people disagree with me about me asking a question.. there isnt even anything to disagree about. lol... any comment that doesnt praise a ps3 as a god send is a disagree on this website lol.."

Yup, welcome to N4PS3G

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Gonna have to agree with Kurylo. I'm a ps3 loyalist but I'm not quite dumb enough to believe the ps3 can out perform a pc. IF they are saying that the ps3 version will be better then the reasons aren't because the pc has limited power compared to the ps3. Prolly just saying that to stay loyal to the mgs fanbase.

But the ps3 version will be the best regardless to me because of what plastic man said ^^^^^

[joydestroy]

yeah i find it very strange for them to claim such a thing. PC should end up being on top unless they're doing a crap port

[pixelsword]

@ Kurlo3d:

MIT thinks so, but then again, what does the brightest computer students, teachers, and professionals know versus the superior and most keen minds that are the N4g patrons?

MLAA on the PS3 with the Saboteur kinda shows that the PS3 has the potential to go toe to toe with the PC.

Sim Racing World said GT5 looked better than any racer they've seen on any console or even the PC. I put their word above many because all they do is rate racing games, plus they're the only ones who were willing to approach finishing the game before rating all of it.

So yeah; if someone says the PS3 is better than the PC in some way or another, they may be full of it: but if they have the background to earn trust their words should not be so easily dismissed.

[BakedGoods]

Yep insecure. It's when you're worried your preferred platform is falling behind another, so you lash out at the other console.

See: Fanboy (noun)

[Focker420]

This is a legit question I'd really like to know the answer to... How many SPUs do high end PCs have nowadays??

[LiL T]

For all the PC fans that are gonna come in here saying you dont have limitations, Yes you do its called BLU-RAY. Not every pc has one so they are still limited to dvd and chances are the graphics will be close but there will be way less content in the pc and xbox versions.
edit- when I say close graphics I mean that the pc graphics will obviously be better and th ps3 will be close but as for content ps3 will be the best.

[BlackKnight]

@Tommykrem

"EDIT: Cell and Blu-Ray are japanese technologies"

The Cell was made by IBM....Just like the CPU Xenos in the Xbox 360....just like the CPU Broadway in the Wii....

You don't know what you are talking about...

[NukaCola]

Kurylo,

The PS3 is different than the PC in many ways. I would say that PS3 Portal is the best version of the 4 platforms, because not only will the PS3 version be best on console, but the game comes with the steam copy for Mac or PC, so that is the clear winner in my book.

[Computersaysno]

"For all the PC fans that are gonna come in here saying you dont have limitations, Yes you do its called BLU-RAY. Not every pc has one so they are still limited to dvd"

PC does not really need bluray games. Multiple Dvds are fine, because PCs have massive hard drives hugely faster than PS3 and 360's disc drives/slow 2.5 HDDs to install to. 20Gb Pc game installs are commonplace these days once all the files are uncompressed. Besides this, Pc games are mostly downloadable these days. Bluray is a non issue for PC.

MLAA is inferior to MSAA overall, it is only used on PS3 because it is better than the other option, Quincunx, and PS3 cannot physically do or afford to do MSAA most of the time. MLAA works on polygon edges but fails on sub pixel geometry or alpha textures. MSAA works with both.

GT5 being the best looking racer ever is arguable to me. Its a great looking console game but it is far from perfect. Photo mode looks fantastic, but even that is because it has a bunch of post processed and vastly improved effects not shared with the actual gameplay. Just for example look at how the shadows in photo are far higher precision than the lo res maps used in actual gameplay.

PC is the most powerful platform by a large margin these days, if Ps3 is said to have the better version it'll only be down to exclusive content, not visual fidelity.

[C0MPUT3R]

GTA IV when first launched on PC was a mess, and the console versions were better. But obviously the modding community worked their magic and now the PC version is superior.
.
The same thing will most likely happen for Rising when it first comes out, but in 2 years the PC version through mods will be way better.

[DAS692]

If any of you knew anything about what goes into making a game, then i'd understand... but most of you don't, so let me school you... PC is the the most CAPABLE system. But not everyone that is a PC gamer, has a "great" gaming setup. The reason he probably said that the PS3 is the best platform, is because they don't have to worry about making the game compatible with all of the different possible graphics cards that PC gamers may use. It's not like EVERYONE has the latest in the Nvidia Geforce series.... Not to mention if you are using the Windows OS, because your processors may be performing some other un-needed task, thus hindering the game to run a full capacity. This is the main difference between consoles and PC's. The processors are dedicated to playing games, or running applications ON DEMAND.

[ProjectVulcan]

If you consider yourself a Pc gamer then by now you should easily have a more capable Pc for games than this dated generation of consoles.

You do not need a great setup to outstreip console performance. Heck, you don't even need a good one by todays standards. Any dual core and 8800 series GPU is enough tro defeat console performance. Better than this just extends the gap to an even greater level.

Go on ebay and see how much an 8800GT costs these days. Many of them go for the price of a single new console game....

[Ducky]

"MLAA on the PS3 with the Saboteur kinda shows that the PS3 has the potential to go toe to toe with the PC."

...

"For all the PC fans that are gonna come in here saying you dont have limitations, Yes you do its called BLU-RAY. Not every pc has one so they are still limited to dvd and chances are the graphics will be close but there will be way less content in the pc and xbox versions."

...

God I love N4G.
=)

In any case, doesn't matter what version gets a slight edge as long as each version is well-made and not skimped on.
Though Rising looks like a game best enjoyed with some sort of motion controls.

[baodeus]

@LILT

I would agree with that. Not all pc has blueray, so i guess we will be seeing uncompress 1080p CGI/cutscene and sound on Ps3 version, but not for pc or xbox?

[Computersaysno]

If you look at MGS4's cut scenes then they exhibit fairly obvious poor compression artifacts (in this case macroblocking, google that), this is despite the game supposedly using all 50Gb on the bluray. Audio is also compressed- lossy. Cutscenes were a combination of in engine scenes and CGI.

Assuming Rising uses decent modern compression for the Pc version then you aren't likely to notice much difference between cut scene or sound quality, if anything, the realtime parts would be better looking on PC.

Also be honest, if the only thing better about the PS3 version versus the Pc one was some slightly better CGI bitrates while the whole other time of the gameplay/realtime scenes has better graphics on PC then i would hardly see that as a reason to say the PS3 version is better than Pc.

[iNcRiMiNaTi]

"For all the PC fans that are gonna come in here saying you dont have limitations, Yes you do its called BLU-RAY. Not every pc has one so they are still limited to dvd and chances are the graphics will be close but there will be way less content in the pc and xbox versions.
edit- when I say close graphics I mean that the pc graphics will obviously be better and th ps3 will be close but as for content ps3 will be the best."

This made me lol hard. Still limited to DVD? I don't even use discs to play games off steam. Blu-ray is just a storage medium, PC games can be installed to avoid unnecessary things like DVDs and Blu-ray to play games. I think this is more based on trying to stay loyal to who made MGS what it is today.

[LiL T]

@iNcRiMiNaTi
I not a pc gamer but does every game come out on steam? if so cool. I know about the installs and im not disagreeing. I just think to keep cost down they will do 1-2 dvds which is no prob for the pc cause of the install. I guess I should of said some will be gimped due too the lack of hd and bd availabilities, not all systems have both outta the box. I still say the pc will be slighty better then the ps3 next then the xbox. It might have alittle to do with what you said and a little outta column b.

[starcb26]

What if you have a shitty computer from the early 90's? Then that means my PS3 is more powerful than your pc :)

[multipayer]

They're probably just referring to the Move hardware as a nonexistent limitation on other platforms. Konami would be a great asset on PC. so I'm hopeful they don't fail.

[pixelsword]

@ fatold man and computersaysno:

It's not MLAA as the strict definition goes, but it's ran through the SPUs to give the effect that goes beyond what the 360 can do, and it still is something comparable to high-end PCs that use GPUs

http://images.eurogamer.net...

"The PS3 rendition of Pandemic's The Saboteur is different though. It's special. It's trying something new that's never been seen before on console, or indeed PC, and its results are terrific. In a best-case scenario you get edge-smoothing that is beyond the effect of 16x multi-sampling anti-aliasing, effectively delivering an effect better than the capabilities of high-end GPUs without crippling performance. Compare and contrast with Xbox 360 hardware, which tops out at 4x MSAA."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.highdefforum.com...

So how many times does someone has to pull this out for people like you to get it through your heads?

[Computersaysno]

Please stop talking utter bollocks pixelsword. Everything that i said about MLAA done by PS3 is true, and it is well known. MSAA is just better, because it can anti alias everything in the scene, sub pixel geometry, alpha textures....whatever. How hard is this to understand for people like you?

MLAA is ONLY used by PS3 because:

1) PS3's GPU cannot do MSAA + FP16 HDR at the same time, it is architecturally impossible.

2) Even if it WEREN'T- PS3 is not fast enough to do it most of the time. There simply is not enough memory bandwidth or ROPs performance etc to manage it. (Thank whoever decided to halve NV47's bus width and also thus halve its ROP performance, both key components in the function of MSAA) The hit in performance PS3 takes when enabling just 2 x MSAA is massive compared to 360, which gets it very low cost in many scenarios. So many games on 360 have MSAA while their Ps3 counterparts have none, or poor QAA/blur filters.

So the alternative was originally a very low quality, cheap regards performance cost solution- quincunx. As we all know quincunx is also inferior to MSAA, mainly because by sampling the texture next to the edge being analysed it'll end up blurring the whole texture, every texture, the whole image.

Comparing to 360 too is kinda interesting, because AA is only half the story. Upscaling counts for a considerable amount regards image quality. 360 has far better scaling properties than PS3, an obvious weakness. Meaning 360 will scale anything you throw at it very well to any res up to 1080p, whereas PS3 can't and doesn't, relying on developers to implement their own methods. Most don't, especially multi plat devs.

On balance, if you weigh up the ads/disads between QAA and MLAA, MLAA probably wins. Yet still, they are both distant runners up to proper MSAA. MLAA is simply the lesser of two evils. You get good edge aliasing, but absolutely zero AA on alpha textures and none on sub pixel geometry which i would say is by far the most noticeable aliasing anyway....

I can pretty much guarantee now that come the next gen of consoles and assuming they have bags more performance MLAA will fade into obscurity, as the consoles finally manage MSAA on every game.

[pixelsword]

Dude, I got links to back up what I say, and you, like the standard fanboy, have NOTHING to back up what you say; so what you say must be so common that you can't find links to back up what you say. Go on, get some links or STFU.

Here's how easy it is to find the total opposite of what you're saying;

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://imagequalitymatters....

http://translate.google.com...

http://www.rage3d.com/artic...

http://www.techpowerup.com/...

I can do this all day because it's a fact.

And it's a technique of MLAA, not necessarily MLAA itself, so if you're going to try to say anything to me, try to get it right.

[ProjectVulcan]

It is true MLAA is of little interest to PC gamers. PC gamers can either crank up the resolution so high it doesn't matter worth a jot, or crank up the MSAA much higher than the consoles can do. Better yet, on PC you can do both. 1920 x 1080p native coupled with just 4 x MSAA is more than enough to absolutely hammer the image quality of any console game running just 1280 x 720, regardless of what type of anti aliasing it uses.

I think its fairly obvious to most people who know anything that proper native 1080p with 4x MSAA offers much much better image quality than 720P with 16x, 32x, any number of samples.

[Computersaysno]

Ahhh dear pixelsword. I was hoping you would say that. Deary me :-) see you walked right into my little trap. You have no real understanding of these methods of anti aliasing, and also thus missing out crucial key parts of the articles you linked to.

Your own links back everything i have said up. For example, the analysis of The Saboteur. The article says:

"it does have its drawbacks. When edges in-game are one pixel or less than one pixel in thickness, the edge-detection technique doesn't really work. Pandemic also subjects the entire, completed framebuffer to analysis - including the HUD elements - so there is often artefacting on the text overlays"

So this is two drawbacks already, including the sub pixel problems i already mentioned previously. MSAA does not suffer either of these....

It also says...

"It's a really clever way to maintain speed, but on the other hand, some colours - red and black for example - have similar luminance levels, so the filter picks up the majority of edges but misses others. Additionally, in some cases there are some interesting "fuzzing" issues on edges"

MSAA does not suffer these either because it is performed at a different stage in the render pipeline. This goes for either the method pandemic uses here with colour detect, or regular MLAA.

Carrying on....

"the MLAA technique employed by Pandemic works beautifully and IN MOST CASES you really need to look hard for the artefacts. BUT THEY ARE THERE, and you wonder how well the technique would work on higher contrast games like Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Halo 3 or the almighty Uncharted 2 where the MLAA would REALLY HAVE ITS WORK CUT OUT."

MSAA would not create the artifacts outlined, and as the article theorises, MLAA is not ideal for every situation. MSAA generally is, assuming you have the power to do it.

Fact is pixelsword you haven't been reading the topics you linked to have you? MLAA is no doubt a CLEVER way to improve image quality on PS3, because PS3 can't do MSAA very well.

However, for machines that can for example 360 or especially Pc, its a bit of a moot point. MSAA is the better option, as long as you can do it and enough of it. My case rests, my point stands, and you should read your own links especially if they are devastating to your argument....

Go get some more understanding, stop rabbiting on without clearly knowing enough to form a useful comment. Thankyou

[Tommykrem]

@BlackKnight
No, cell was made by STI. Which is a co-operation between Sony, Toshiba and IBM. While it was designed in USA, it's mainly financed by Sony and mainly employed by Sony.

Besides, PlayStation 3 deploys the Cell broadband engine, and if I got it right that is a variation of cell designed entirely by Sony so... cell is Japanese all right.

[pixelsword]

@ computersaysno

lol, once again, another PC wannabe that get's stuck on things that doesn't actually add up.

I gave you an out by telling you that it wasn't MLAA, but once again, just like a PC fanboy, you get stuck in the jargon and the end results make you look like a fool... again.

If you want to go back to my link, go to this part:

""Update: This morning, Christer Ericson, director of tools and technology at Sony Santa Monica and part of the hugely respected God of War team, got in touch to set us straight on the technical background to the effect seen in The Saboteur. Christer's knowledge on this subject obviously far outstrips our own and he took issue with several points in yesterday's article, which you can still read in full below this update.

Firstly, the definition of MLAA isn't in keeping with the basic outline of the technique as it has been described by some Pandemic staff, and it is almost certainly an extension of the edge-filter plus blur technique seen in several cross-platform titles already. As Christer says, "the qualitative difference comes down to how you edge-detect and how you 'blur'."

The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined. This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea.

In terms of the effectiveness of luminance for determining edges, Christer also pointed out that the pixels we've highlighted as causing problems for edge-smoothing in The Saboteur aren't a product of red meeting black, but actually brown and red - similar in terms of luminance values and thus more likely to cause that particular artefact.

It's fair to say that in our excitement about the level of image quality displayed in The Saboteur, we were off-beam to be so definitive about MLAA as the technique being used, but it is still a great example of the SPUs being used to do post-processing work more traditionally associated with the GPU and, in this case, producing arguably better results than the more generally accepted MSAA solutions built into the graphics hardware. Thanks to Christer for getting in touch. ""

So basically, every point you had about MLAA doesn't apply, and neither did DigitalFoundry's; as theirs were unfounded... and so were every point you just made.

Here's what you said:

"
MLAA is inferior to MSAA overall, it is only used on PS3 because it is better than the other option, Quincunx, and PS3 cannot physically do or afford to do MSAA most of the time. MLAA works on polygon edges but fails on sub pixel geometry or alpha textures. MSAA works with both."

Here's what the article said:

"...it is still a great example of the SPUs being used to do post-processing work more traditionally associated with the GPU and, in this case, producing arguably better results than the more generally accepted MSAA solutions BUILT INTO THE GRAPHICS HARDWARE."

It's funny how your forum intellectuals can't see past your own egos, despite massive incompetence.

Read. Before. Posting. And. You'll. Look. Less. The. Fool.

[Computersaysno]

Hahaha @ pixelsword! All your great long diatribe did was STILL confirm my comments that MSAA is better than MLAA. I read the pandemic update of course, and all they corrected was the colours, not the fact the fuzzed edges and artifacting still occurs. Basically you spent and wasted your entire comment still pointing out i was correct and MLAA has several drawbacks, including the pandemic 'edge detect' implementation. :-)

All the weaknesses pointed out in the article of the specific pandemic technique still prove my points that that specific usage is inferior to MSAA, as is every other known implementation of different MLAA on PS3.

Every point i made stands. Everything i have said about the drawbacks of MLAA applies still and is well known, at least to people that understand the techniques. Nothing said changes these facts. You are just simply wrong and you should get over it because you have zero understanding.

Also it is amusing how you even said that MLAA on PS3 is better than PS3's MSAA capability- I already pointed that out, my reasons why PS3 does not do MSAA made it very clear why PS3 games rarely use it, PS3 is incapable of doing it with high precision HDR and very weak in the areas that count to manage it otherwise.

MSAA is by far the better technique. I'll boil it down very simply for you. If you can afford to do it such as on PC, MSAA wins easily. Unfortunately and simply put PS3 is not really capable of doing it or enough of it in practical terms as it lacks enough performance in the crucial areas and developers look to use MLAA instead. This much should be obvious if you understand the reason MLAA would be employed, simply put, only because it uses less resources. Thats it. Not because it gives better overall quality than higher levels of MSAA. Because it costs less. Less memory, less GPU cycles, less bandwidth. Plain, simple, OBVIOUS.

Its funny that you genuinely have no real idea what you are talking about.

PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, you'll look less stupid next time then. If you want more evidence look at all the agrees for my original post and all your disagrees. These are from people that recognise i know exactly what i am talking about, and you don't.

If you still want to argue you know where my inbox is, but the fact is enough MSAA wins image quality wise overall, and better yet, PC has such a wide scope for AA methods you can even combine MSAA to clean up alpha and sub pixel aliasing with MLAA to highly polish other edges. Even ignoring the idea PC can do AAA, or CSAA, or SSAA, CFAA- and lots of combinations mix n match. But then, i can only imagine you know nothing of any of these either going by your previous ignorance.

[DAS692]

In order for a game like MGS Rising to run, you will, and that was only one point of mine. Let's not forget about the fact that there is no prominent motion sensing tech designed for PC's and no blu-ray disc drivers... (which is only included in the latest and PC's and hard to find)

[pixelsword]

I'm going to put it down TWO times, and let's see if you actually can understand what's being written down, and I'll make each time simpler so even a PC fanboy should be able to understand.

"Firstly, the definition of MLAA isn't in keeping with the basic outline of the technique as it has been described by some Pandemic staff, and it is almost certainly an extension of the edge-filter plus blur technique seen in several cross-platform titles already....

The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined. This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea.

In terms of the effectiveness of luminance for determining edges, Christer also pointed out that the pixels we've highlighted as causing problems for edge-smoothing in The Saboteur aren't a product of red meeting black, but actually brown and red - similar in terms of luminance values and thus more likely to cause that particular artefact.

It's fair to say that in our excitement about the level of image quality displayed in The Saboteur, we were off-beam to be so definitive about MLAA as the technique being used, but it is still a great example of the SPUs being used to do post-processing work more traditionally associated with the GPU and, in this case, producing arguably better results than the more generally accepted MSAA solutions built into the graphics hardware. Thanks to Christer for getting in touch."

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That's one. Did you understand? I'll do it a second time, then I'm going to strip down one fact then point out other, obvious facts that's been pointed out already.
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"Firstly, the definition of MLAA isn't in keeping with the basic outline of the technique as it has been described by some Pandemic staff"

"we were off-beam to be so definitive about MLAA as the technique being used"

"but it is still a great example of the SPUs being used to do post-processing work more traditionally associated with the GPU and, in this case, producing arguably better results than the more generally accepted MSAA solutions built into the graphics hardware. Thanks to Christer for getting in touch."

CONCLUSION:

IT'S NOT MLAA, GET IT?
IT'S NOT MLAA, GET IT?
IT'S NOT MLAA, GET IT?

YOUR POINTS ARE BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION MLAA IS USED.

THE GPU ISN'T RENDERING THIS, THE CELL'S SPU's ARE, GET IT?

THE CELL AND THE RSX CAN WORK IN TANDEM, GET IT?

Your points, and everyone else who try to bang on the RSX does so without the knowledge that the RSX and the Cell is meant to work together. Separately, the RSX IS INDEED WEAK, but it was never meant to be used in such a fashion. That's why PS3 exclusive games can out-strip 360 games in terms of graphics and physics and can in a few cases, when the programmers develop techniques to rise to the occasion, compete with high-end PC games.

That's also why most ports to the PS3 end up being bad ports, because devs just port everything to the RSX without putting any load to the Cell.

If you knew what you were talking about you would have seen your fundamental flaw from the outset.

[BLACKBOIJONES]

PS3 IS THE BEST :)

[Kurylo3d]

yea its a pity the technology behind ps3 was made in america by american companies lol..

[gypsygib]

That's not true at all, they don't even make the best TVs anymore - a lot of the best tech in the world came from the American military.

EDIT:

For people disagreeing, the biggest technological world changing invention this generation is the internet, yep invented in the good old USA. People think American's are dumb, and judging from US TV shows (Jersey Shore) and President Bush you can't blame them, but there are a lot of genius Americans too.

It's cool to hate on the US but you should be thankful the major power isn't China or India yet, because they won't even try to appear to care about human rights so SFTU.

[Stewie2k8]

Your trolling is so annoying. Yes we all know you love sony and the PS3 but for gods sake stop with the trolling!!! Death to trolls!

[gypsygib]

@BLACKBOIJONES
I see you've changed your statement that Japan makes all the best technology because they're the smartest. Any one who thinks just because someone is Asian they're smart is an idiot.

[Venatus-Deus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Your comment is a perfect example of why certain sterotypes exsist for Americans and the reason why Palin actually has a shot at becoming President.

Read the link. Understand it and STFU you uneducated racist MoFo.

[Lawliet]

@gypsygib

Americans INVENTED the WWW?!
Americans have the best technologies?!
Americans have the largest and strongest military force?!

If you say so , if that's what makes your American's Dream. ;)

[Focker420]

Japanese make the best technology, not because they are the smartest, but because they always focus on precision and efficiency.

[Xristo]

@Venatus-Deus

check out this link....he said the INTERNET

http://www.tech-faq.com/who...

originally created in the USA...then others, like the one you mentioned, built on to the idea

kudos to all, US or other countries, who contributed to evolving it into what it is today

[Venatus-Deus]

@xristo

I give you a man Time magazine includes in their top 20 most influential people of the 20th century and you give me an article in a shitty no name Internet site about how Americas invented the Internet in the 50s before computer capable of more than binary were invented.

Jesus. Your more stupid than gipsygib

[Xristo]

"Jesus. Your more stupid than gipsygib"

It's "you're"....

Calling me stupid and you cannot even type proper grammar. But, that is besides the point.

Now, back to the topic. I give great credit to founder of the WWW. I never said the USA propelled the internet into what it is today. I would give that credit to your boy. I was just mentioning where the idea came from.

Oh and settle down. Take a breath. You are getting too stressed out over this lol.

[Venatus-Deus]

"I was just mentioning where the idea came from"

errrr no you didn't.

You said...

"originally created in the USA" which was a direct back up to Gipsy's quote of "yep invented in the good old USA"

The USA had nothing to do with anything about it's invention or creation. The fact that you tried to change what you meant just shows this conversation is pointless.

The only people who are stressed are those that can only fall back on 'yeah, but you spelt a word wrong' when they have nothing left to offer.

[George Sears]

@Venatus-Deus

The Internet and World Wide Web are two complete different things. I suggest you look into more information or don't jump at the gun without understanding things fully.

[ProjectVulcan]

HTTP- the protocol widely credited with bringing about the internet as we know it today, as it is as you look at it on your computer, came from a british man called Tim Berners Lee.

As has been said the concept of networks has been around a very long time but specifically HTTP protocol that makes this page and any others you visited today possible are usually credited to TBL, the inventor of the WWW.

Next you will be telling us that only America put a man on the moon. Sure they did, with a bunch of German rocket scientists and their data and expertise snatched away from the crumbling Third Reich before the Soviet Union reached them. The Apollo programme owes a massive amount to German engineering. America supplied the money, the Germans supplied the key brains behind the only rocket powerful enough to reach the moon. Without that the landers would not have even got off the ground, quite literally! History is interesting like that- a collaboration of different nationalities and accomplishments eventually coming together to do something great.

PS3 is just another example, albeit not quite on the same level as the space race :-) lol

[Wenis]

"The USA had nothing to do with anything about it's invention or creation."

Oh God, Venatus, did you really just say that lol.

[gypsygib]

The US Department of Defense invented the internet in 1969, the World Wide Web was invented 20 years later by some British guy.

People should try and read comments before replying to them. I'm not even American, I'm Canadian but credit should be given where credit is due.

[Venjense]

Funny that all the people basically saying America is good for nothing, are typing there comments using software made in America (Windows or Mac OS).

Half of them probably game on 360 (US).

Most of them search the internet using Google (US).

They probably use American technology every day then say America hasn't created anything.

Yeah yeah, keep hating.

Venatus-Deus is a dunce, Xristo is an idiot you two should get together an make a retard.

[Lawliet]

Dudes... Unless you are one of the person who involved in the project during the 50s, nobody knows who exactly really INVENTED the internet or WWW if you want to categories them apart.. The truth we all know the architecture of the Internet is far more complicated than just an application. It is the contribution of many intelligence from all over the world taking parts by parts of ideas and combining them together to MAKE the Internet. Therefore you can't simply just describe it that the AMERICANS or the BRITISH invented it because they didn't! Infact in history there are alot of debate more trivial than this one.

BTW Japan currently hold the most advance country.

Obama might have to do oral sex to each China man before he can finally fully repay his debt.

[Venatus-Deus]

Didn’t you guy’s hear… the Wright brothers didn’t invent the Aeroplane.

It was actually the Italian Michelangelo in 1550 because he was the first to conceptualize flight (just a hypothetical example).

While we have just re-defined the meaning of the word ‘invention’ who can tell me the first inventor of the watch. Surely the person who conceptualized time actually invented it.

Oh… that’s right, we are only bending the rules on this particular subject.

What you guys are talking about is an interconnected networking system which doesn’t come close to today’s definition of the internet.

Oh…. I’m sorry…. I didn’t realize that we were using the old definition. My bad.

@ Venjense

Nobody is having a go at America. I was having a go at the racist Canadian. Relax your country is still the greatess.

@ George Sears

I am aware. My original point stands but why don’t you take a look at Lawliet comments above. Why don’t you response to the argument in context. I still have a bubble left to comment.

[MRMagoo123]

@Venatus

I wouldnt bother wasting replies these ppl you are arguing with probably believe the computer was invented by an American too and the telephone was invented by alexander graham bell lol

[lil Titan]

ill wait for the game to come out...is Kojima even attached to this project?

[WitWolfy]

Yes he is BUT more like a Producer.. Remember this is Kojima Productions "B team" developers. So what makes you think Kojima was working on a bigger game with their A Team? Maybe a Zone of Enders sequel????

[Peppino7]

LOL this is gonna be a fun war to watch! I hope the title is true. :)

[ELite_Ghost]

i love how theres only one other version XD

[itsralf]

@ELite_Ghost

Apparently there's a PC version too. I didn't know until now, though. I thought it was console-exclusive.

[Xfanboy]

If it's better than the PC version then something is wrong!!

Thank God D.I.C.E are not like them then!!

If this is true then it's a no buy 4 me!

When you don't pay off ps3 devs they make idiotic statements like this!!

"We all versions of the game with great care and effort build. But hardware constraints we are sometimes annoying. But the problem we have in the PS3 console and power top the console allows us to make our best game. So it is natural that the PS3 version is better than the other two versions." - retard..

[Jazz4108]

Its funny how ram is the biggest restraints on consoloes and sony system uses split ram that totals a half gig and the pc at min has as much ram as humanly possible. What a failure of a thing to say. I will not be picking this game up at all. I was going to pick it up for the 360 but I will not support devs that cherry pick and lie to there fan base. The ps2 is always going to be the most powerfull of the three and coming from imb who made the guts of these consoles power wise the 360 and ps3 are almost equal but I give ps3 the advantage with bluray storage. These are the facts and I don't expect a bunch of aggrees because I didn't put sony first.

[MRMagoo123]

so you wouldnt buy forza then cos the devs lied about that and you wouldnt buy COD that was also lied about the thing your forgetting is the ps3 is better than the 360 yet the 360 gets some multiplats that run better on it those devs will be in the same boat as these ones if the ps3s version looks better than the pc one.

[LiL T]

@Plastica-Man
LOL true, I hated that biatch. I ended up hiding under the truck to beat her.
OT: This is good news but even whith them saying that it will be the best on ps3, your gonna get the pc guy try to say otherwise.

[Pintheshadows]

I hid under the truck as well and just picked her off. Then the second time I had the rail gun :)

[No Way]

Uh, no.. it shouldn't be. Games should be equal, if multi-platform.
Now, yes, PS3 is more powerful, so if it's a 'slight' improvement.

Oh well. But, I'm getting it for PS3, anyway. So whatever.

[DOMination]

We've heard this all before but there's no proof until the game comes out and we can see for ourselves.

[reznik_zerosum]

is this realy coming to pc ? :0

[TheXgamerLive]

WRONG. what he really means to express is and only this is the ps3 version has more space on blu ray to do what they want. hardware has shown to be less than expected but blu ray is the ps3's saving grace.

[MRMagoo123]

WRONG. your arse if for gas and number 2s not opinions

[MazzingerZ]

Wow! I wonder if he really said all that or they just exagerated the translation...if not, this guy is a PS3 fanboy haha

Not doubt that it could be more estable if PS3 is the leading platform but how could be better to implement their ideas if the same game will be running on the X360? or will the gameplay be different on the PS3?...maybe the difference is kind of like with FFXIII = huge LOL

don't really care, good or bad version, I only have a PS3 because there I can play all the games I like so looking forward to play the game, don't expect a real MGS game but anyway, it will deliver quality as it's Kojima productions developing

Can't wait for what Kojima will announce at E3!

[TBM]

come on now EVERYONE know's that Kojima Productions already knows how to program for the PS3 so this should not come as a shock to all.

[8thnightvolley]

clearly this dude is an idiot.. how wil ps3 top a freaking PC spec.. are u bloody joking..? and he says by far" what a dumb ass jap

[Blaze929]

so, now the ps3 fanbase cares about MGS Rising huh? Bu bu bu no Kojima?

[MRMagoo123]

go back under your bridge

[dragon82]

I still don't care. Happy now?

[showtimefolks]

i am fine i have both ps3/xbo360 and a decent pc.

its not surprising coming from kojima even though he not the one behind this it will look better on ps3.

and to all pc fans everyone knows pc's are the strongest because you can upgrade

as long as the game has all the content and not held back by pc or xbox360's lack of disk space. multiple disks have one issues the publishers have to pay extra for disks or cut content they rather cut content and later release that via dlc than make 2,3 or 4 disk games

we look at it as gamers this is a business

[Tinasumsum]

Amazing how developers think they can sucker PS3 fans so easily assuming this developer actually said this about the PS3 version. Lots of strange PS3 pep rally news in the last month from media and developers trying to please the PS3 crowd. The shift in 360 momentum has developers afraid of pissing off the PS3 fans and not selling games as a result?

-MGSR Better on PS3 and not 360 and PC?
-Analyst says PS3 won FEB(a week ago)
-Battle Field 3 is currently running better on PS3 is seen as something other then current focus on PS3 by media(Only PS3 is getting multi core development :p end sarcastic remark)

@8thnightvolley

Calm down the developer didn't say sh*t the pro PS3 media is running wild over misunderstanding the Battle Field 3 comments. Dude made it up I can't even find the original article/source. Some no name site got the insider scope but not any credible sites or even the claimed source has the info.

[dragon82]

Where is the "Stupid" button when you need it??

[Electroshocked]

Yeah it really should be, I mean come on, it's meant for the PS3.

[killcycle]

It "should" be exclusive

[reddeadite]

!

[NBT91]

?

[slavish3]

lol i call b.s. he is saying ps3 version better then the other TWO VERSION. so ps3 version>PC & 360. thats not ps3's power thats bad developement !! !!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[kookie]

Looks like sony has paid Konami and kojima production

[jizzyjones]

Maybe, or maybe they know how to get the most out of ps3 like when they made MGS4?

[Kurylo3d]

u do realize mgs4 sort of looked like crap compared to other games. Espeacially other games on the ps3.

[SoapShoes]

^ Yeah that's just why it won every best graphics award in 2008, right? I mean it has been passed up in graphics by Killzone 2/3, Uncharted, God of War, etc but it still holds its own by today's standards and better than like 90% of multiplatform games.

[htownrocket87]

@kurylo3d

Did you even play the game? I don't understand how you could say mgs4 looked like crap compared to other games. It still is one of the most beautiful games to ever come out! You must be trollin'

[CryofSilence]

@htownrocket87

He is trolling--just look at his other posts: insecurity, insulting, and otherwise negative Nancy posts. It's simple. Time to relieve him of his bubbles, no?

[reddeadite]

This

[baodeus]

@estranged

and i'm sure Okami also won best graphics back then because of the tech right? I think you guys really can't differentiate between art style and technical graphics.

But not to discredit MGS4 because the game does look good (just really poor animation in gameplay, haven't change anything since what MGS1?).

[BubbleSniper]

like ms paid to have kojima on stage jus for him to laugh behind their back... OK!

[TreMillz]

GODDAMN YOU OWNED HIM!

[jimbone79]

Yes totally cool bro, you just PWND him. Man I love being so fucking cool bro. Total ownage. That’s my bro...bro. /s

[dragon82]

It was a pretty funny comment though. :P

[UltimateIdiot911]

Because they totally need to be paid to say that just like how Gabe was paid to say Portal 2 will be better on the PS3. Let's not forget that the majority of MGS fan are guess what...PS3 owners.

If MGS Rising turns out worse on the PS3 without any of those references/easter eggs/etc, you can be pretty sure MGS fans won't be too happy.

But sure, you can go on believing that Sony paid X companies to say it will be better on the PS3 and ignoring the fact that there might be some truth to it.

[MazzingerZ]

@Kurylo3d
Looks better than anything on the X360, including Gears 2 or on the PS3 excluding those named games

Production value is awesome.

MGS4 is a timeless game and a VG classic already

Chapter 4 is still unmatched as a gaming experience this gen

and the ending is fantastic!

[Flexatron]

No surprise here.

[Godmars290]

Given that there's only been a minimal showing of gameplay, no specific showing of a version, does it really matter?

If it actually means anything, they need to show not say.

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

OK good! but give me Peace Walker on the PS3!!!!!!!!!!!

[SonyNGP]

Better than PC?
lolwut?

[Kurylo3d]

my thoughts exactly.

[LunaticBrandon]

It will be intentionally bad if they actually end up releasing the PC version.

[BubbleSniper]

lol, yeh.

maybe they overselling the game a bit

[plb]

Yeah that kind of baffled me too

[Stempel]

I can't see PC version being worse in terms of graphics unless it supports 720p only.

[SeraphimBlade]

Wow, Google Translate SUCKS at persian!

Makes sense, I haven't seen a 360 game quite measure up to the graphics of MGS4, so if the studio's used to getting the most out of PS3...

[Pootangpie]

I'm sorry are you trying to imply MGS4 has good graphics that's a laugh because the game looks like shit for the most part it's good thing I don't particually like MGS series

Anyways if the team was smart they would make the PC version the lead platform

[BubbleSniper]

last bubble, so gonna say...

this console port, so maybe assumption that PS3 version is the best could be true to some extent.

any1 elaborate more?

[wenaldy]

Straight from the horse's mouth...

[Godmars290]

Yes, and how many times has such been said yet found out to be so much PR pap?

And it really should only matter that the game looks good across all platforms, not just one.

[kookie]

I didnt know rising was coming to pc

[shades72]

Does it matter which version is better - as long as I get the game I don't care.

[TardcoreGamer]

Yeah. You know he's just pandering to the Ps3 community right? But if he's serious that's great. sorry PC/360 only folks.

[DigitalRaptor]

Oh boy, am I glad to own a PS3.

[Raendom]

Was always going to get it on PS3 anyway but glad to see Konami put that extra effort to maximise it for PS3.

[Denethor_II]

Or you could just be lazy, save money, make it for the lowest spec machine and then port the shit out of it like most multi plat developers do.

[dragonelite]

Just like how crysis 2 was suppose to be the best version.
Lets first see and japan have been behind graphical techniques.

[fredfenster]

Good. Now for some Move compatibility and I'll be slashing water melons to pieces.

[blakstarz]

The franchise started on Playstation, so that should be expected, that's like a franchise that started on 360 and was optimize to run on it, its probably going to have slight inferiority on another platform, nothing catastrophic, but probably noticeable.

[SonyNGP]

"The franchise started on Playstation."

lrn2MetalGear

[dredgewalker]

It actually started on Nintendo.

[supersonicsaga]

Meta Gear "Solid" started on the PlayStation.

[dredgewalker]

He didn't specify Metal Gear Solid, he just said "franchise" so I took it in general. Anyway it's no big deal.

[CernaML]

No, it didn't start on Nintendo. It started on the MSX home computer.

[UltimateIdiot911]

Started on the MGX2. Hit big on the Playstation.

[dredgewalker]

I don't know if I'm gonna be interested in this game cause I'm into Metal Gear as a stealth action game than an action game. I don't mind it being multiplat, it's just not a Kojima MGS game for me.

[Senden]

Who cares? I lost interest in this game when one of the developers said it wasn't story focused. This game doesn't look deserving of being called Metal Gear.

[tatotiburon]

i'll wait until the comes out...

[Ninjamonkey82]

Was never gonna buy it anywhere but my ps3 anyways.

[KilL7roCitY]

PS3 better than PC ? then i'll dnt buy that shit.

[mafia_pc]

FAKE !!!!
NOTHING ON CVG.COM
http://www.computerandvideo...

[fireplace]

This just in: PS3 has more power than a PC.

Seriously?

[Clarence]

We know that, but try telling the 360 fans that. Just like BF3 Is looking to be better on the ps3 than on the 360.
Can the basic pc play the top of the line games like BF3 or will you need to upgrade?

[Arkhamz]

The article said "it's a bit too early to judge".

[nevin1]

lol@ at ppl dissing MGS4's graphics. keep in mind that it was in development way before PS3's release. it may has been surpassed by later PS3 exclusives but it still hold its own. with that said, expect the next MGS PS3 exclusive to improved dramatically on the graphics/technology front.

but in regards to this topic, if the PS3 version is better, it was because the PS3 is the lead platform which i have doubts considering multiplatform games are develop on 360 then ported to PS3.

[cliffbo]

it may be better on ps3 due to bluray + cell CPU(more cores at 3.2Ghz) more storage is always better.

360 and pc only has dvd remember.

[WetN00dle69]

Ummm, yeah........ you should go fly a kite.

[Shaolen]

So, if I tell you that my gaming PC has a Blu Ray drive in it, will that make your head explode? Or just make your argument fail right on the spot?

[Clarence]

I got to disagree with you on that comment. Multiplats games are developed on the 360 first by choice. In the past developers had a hard time with the PS3 so it was easier for them to port the games. Today is a different story. FF13 was developed first on the PS3 then it was ported over to the 360. Multiplat games can look and run better on the PS3 if developers choose to really learn the ins and outs of the PS3. That's why Gab newbell had a change of heart. The same thing is happening with BF3.

[TwistedMetal]

yep like always you can also add in better Mortal kombat 9 ps3, MGS rising ps3, portal 2 ps3, the list goes on ps3 is where its at with the free online as well. You want to do the friends stuff do facebook. Fu**k that XBL BS and grow up.

[ultramoot]

And people think 360 fanboys were gullible.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Yeah ok don't worry yall the PS3 is just his favorite console thats all hes just sayin that. once the game ships itsall three are gonna look just alike. But at least he came clean on that severely pitiful BS excuse grats.

[Manticore]

what is this shitty website?

[Convas]

Don't care. Honestly. Is this what you people do all day? Salivate over which version on a video game is better than the other?

Do you people even ... play games?

Additionally, from what I saw at E3, MGS: Rising looked excellent. And if Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is any indication, PS3 being the lead platform is BETTER for the 360 as C:LOS looks INCREDIBLE on Xbox 360.

[Manticore]

It says according to an interview with CVG, so where is the original article on CVG? seems like this website just pull their articles out of their asses to get some hits and flamebaits.

[kesvalk]

what is the point of saying that? It only means less ppl on the other platforms will buy the game now...

i don't want to buy a lesser version of a game, nor i support this

i was looking foward to buy the game (via steam, on PC) but if the game will be a crappy port, then forget it...

[guigsy]

Sounds like a mistranslation to me. Why would you say that one version is blatantly better than the other two? It's PR suicide.

[Undeadwolfy]

worked for Black Ops...

[guigsy]

I don't remember them ever saying that before it launched though. Why would you try and put potential customers off buying your game? It makes no sense.

[Undeadwolfy]

Xbox’s Director of Entertainment and Marketing, Stephen McGill, whilst talking with MCV, boldly proclaimed that the Xbox 360 is the best console to play Call of Duty: Black Ops and “everyone knows” it.

If they know it will sell, (or get paid obscene amounts of money), then might as well. Sometimes its to let people know that just because they have gone multi-plat and are touting the 360 version a little more, doesn't mean they have forgotten about us. (PS3 owners)

[Masta Kaos]

Well this is good news.....Ps3 owners lets GO!!!

[Longsama]

Based on hardware alone that doesn't make sense, pc should be the best version....Oh well i'm a bit of a PS3 fanboy anyway and if they say that version gonna be better then more power to 'em....but that reasoning still doesn't make sense

[Holeran]

Gotta love the PS3 but in all reality if the PS3 version is better then the PC version then they were not really trying on PC. I pretty much exclusively play on PS3 now but know when done right PC is much more powerful.

[godsinhisheaven]

Though i'm a PS3 whore, i don't think it fair to suggest that pc is less powerful than ps3.

[Lelouch Vi Britannia]

Was it obvious ?

[kasra1986]

PlayStation 3 Metal Gear is the best

[MeNoRasta]

Look at all these ps3 fanboys getting happy..try not to wet yourselfs lol.

[gamewarrior_]

This new is FAKE.. there's no interview in CVG.

[Masterchef2007]

Are you mad?

[gamewarrior_]

This guys is promoting your arabian website. He've posted the "Kojima blaming Crysis" fake story too.

[Bloodyghost]

Pretty sure he means about DVD difficulties. Kojima's own has ALWAYS done that.

Well I am getting the Xbox version, flame me if you will, but I like the series for what it is and loved MGS3 on the Xbox, which was the first I played of this series.

The Xbox 360 literally has almost the same graphical similarities as the PS3. Yes the PS3 has Blu Ray, has free online and all that other stuff but the development team IS CLEARLY pointing the DVD out.

I take the disagrees, like most of MY OPINIONS, with grace.

[Masterchef2007]

I am pretty sure that you are getting the XBOX version because you dont have a PS3. I mean who would get MSG: Rising on the Box if the PS3 version is superior when they own both consoles?

Its ok i only own a PS3 so if theres a multiplat that i want and its a lil worse than the 360 version i will have to deal with it. No need to hide the fact that you own 1 console there are many people that do.

[Bloodyghost]

I do but its due to I cant spend the budget to get a new console. I can to get new games however.

Financially where I stand, I cant get one.

But I am NOT hiding the fact. I really do not get why I get debubbled and get disagreed with on my own stance.

[Masterchef2007]

If i could i would have all 3 consoles. But i really dont have space or money to be able to have all 3 of them. Anyways i didnt debubble you if thats what your asking. I only debubble people when they are obiously trolling or verbally attacking someone.

[Bloodyghost]

I notice that. Your not attacking me in any sort of way but got debubbled by people who think an opinion should be taking seriously.

[VonBraunschweigg]

LBA =/= TEA aka RIP MGS imo;)

[SSKILLZ]

It's a series better played on PS3

[renegade]

And always!

[SSKILLZ]

True that

[Masterchef2007]

So much for people claiming that the PS3 version would be inferior. Looks like they got owned big time by the dev.

[kevnb]

if the ps3 version ends up better than the pc version it wont be because of hardware limitations. The real interesting point is that the pc version is already being made, this is a japanese game that would of been playstation exclusive just a few short years ago.

[RockmanII7]

Hopefully this means that more PS3 fans will support the game, before I've seen a lot of hostility towards Rising and quite never understood why.

[a_bro]

its a game that will play way different than Traditional MGS games, thats why.

[renegade]

People think that kojima doing the move to multi platform is going to change his mind, Ps3 is his main and favorite still platform... Pc is other story

[PirateThom]

It's not Kojima though, it's not even his game. This is someone else saying this. If this was "A Hideo Kojima Game" it would be PS3 only and have hours of story and tie into the canon.

[Thoreau]

ps3 is the most powerful console as compared to the 360. first bf3 and now mgr. don't hate the ps3. love it...

[gman_297]

Well, shouldn't it be??

[josephayal]

NOOO NOOO! MICROSOFT PLZZZ DO SOMETHING!! XBOX 720 NOW!

[younglj01]

Wow i really didnt think PS3 would have tha best version.Since MS showed it at their E3 stage.I wonder how MS feel about this IF its true.

[blakstarz]

Yes, I know it originated on MSX2 first then to Nintendo, what I was getting at was that when people think of Metal Gear, the majority think Playstation.
Most people are not looking that the different series from the past, but the here and now.

[TheTruth89]

persian?? LOL

[Ascalon94]

I thought this was understood from the beginning haha. Does anyone know of a release date?

[Neko_Mega]

This isn't a shock from a group that help made MGS4, as for it looking better then PC.

It can happen, but only time will tell if its true.

[Neko_Mega]

Disagree? On what? The chance it could look better then PC or the fact this group knows what they are doing when it comes to PS3?

Because for PC, they can make the game not look good on PC but make it run very nice on it.

[Haseo106]

Of course, Kojima would never.............EVER let PS3 gamers down!

[HeartDisease]

Arkham - Hopefully! I want to tape a couple of Move controllers to my feet and spin around on my head. Take *THAT*, Geckos!

lol a real ninja doesnt need tape pffff

[thrashermario]

i am still not buying it, come up with a reboot or mgs5 and youll get my cash

[Pintheshadows]

The Art Of Partying. Sweet album.

[thrashermario]

yeah baby thrash till death

[Bob570]

Yeah, because the PS3 hardware is so much more powerful than a PC you know. It's not like I have a laptop that's more powerful than a PS3 or anything...

/sarcasm

MGS Rising isn't going to be that great anyway. The Metal Gear series ended perfectly. Nothing more needs to be added to it.

[Soldierone]

Go play Crysis then....

Kojima is a console developer which made a console game for consoles with a strong relationship with Sony. I wonder why its better on PS3....

[Organization XII]

N4PS3 is awe-inspiring.

[Pintheshadows]

Hey, the sausage roll might taste abit suspect but if it is free who cares!

Should of replied really. Oh well. I like free food and MGS.

[Rekkapryde]

Wutang!

[linko18-1990]

Hope for a new MGO with Rising. :D

[Pintheshadows]

Without konami ID though. It ground my gears.

[linko18-1990]

yes ur right,and give us online trophies too :DDD

[labaronx]

ugh is this coming out anytime soon

[Hyperbomb69]

It really should have been an exclusive...
360 fanboys wont have any idea about whats going on in the story...

[Bob570]

360 fanboys won't buy it.

It is possible to own a 360 and love the Metal Gear series you know.

[Soldierone]

Hey Microsoft kiddies say this all the time. Even when Mass Effect 2 had more content and a brand new engine on PS3, it was still somehow better on the 360.

Well now its PS3 fanboys turn, buy MGS Rising on PS3 where it belongs. "its the better experience"

[Pintheshadows]

Honestly, i've played ME2 on PS3 and 360. There is no discernable difference. By play I mean completed as well. Not just a quick sit down at a friends.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Isn't the only other version, an Xbox version?

[Enigma_2099]

... this is gonna end well... [/sarcasm]

[SuperSaiyan4]

I think that MGS would be (in my opinion) best left on the PS3 I say this because looking at MGS4 that was a huge game. The person behind MGS in general can do more on the PS3 because well fact is it does have blu-ray.
Graphically the PS3 is definently getting worked on better by exclusives despite the fact that its GPU is rather old but thanks to the CELL I am guessing which provides a significant boost.

However since the Xbox 360 does have a superior GPU on paper IF the 360 did have a HD type format something tells me the level in visuals *may* prove to be superior than what the PS3 can put out.

[radchris]

Yeah we'll see.

[blackhammer]

I say they should just make the game and not screw it up.

I'll look forward to another game of espionage and sedating boat-loads of enemies.

[undercovrr]

Well it makes sense...the kojima team had more experience with the ps3 when they made MGS4.

[DFresh]

I wonder how many DVD discs MGS: Rising will be on.

PS3 has the 50GB Blu-ray and PC you can just install it.

Where does that leave Xbox 360?

I'm curious.

:P

Edit:
If we're including PC with the consoles then PC will have the advantage but yeah from a console stand point PS3 is a beast.

>:)

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Do u honestly think this game is going to use all 50 gb or even close on a blu-ray disk?

[DFresh]

MGS4 did.

Knowing Kojima Productions and their time to adding in lots of cut scenes yes I do think it's possible that Rising will have around 50GB of game data on the disc.

Hell I remember an interview Kojima explained that MGS4 almost couldn't even fit on a 50GB Blu-ray disc.

If Kojima can do a good job compressing MGS: Rising then I believe it'll be on 5 discs on the Xbox 360.
(9GB/disc X 5 discs = 45GB. Maybe 40GB if their lucky.)

PS3 will be on (1) 50GB Blu-ray disc.

PC will just be offered on Steam.
(Kojima would just have to pay for memory size/bandwidth as this point.)

[Dagobert]

MGS4 did.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

[hellzsupernova]

oh crap that means its going to be dumbed down

[Ingram]

Move support?

[SlaughterMeister]

Of course it is, it's on the PS3!

/fanboy

[Dagobert]

Shiiiieeeeet, and people thought Chad Papi's (Chad Warden) prophecy about the PS3 was wrong. Nigga knew it was ballin.

PSTriple FTW!

[audiojet]

??? All your bass are belong to us.

There will probably be a retract of this statement. Even if its true these comments hinder sales if true and publishers don't like that.

[PSjesus]

So how many DVDs to play this on ms's console?

[earbus]

Prob the same ammount as pc

[bneals]

Anyone that says that the PS3 is more powerful than a gaming PC is just manipulating. Anyone that believes that PS3 is more powerful than a PC is just stupid. Sure, the PS3 is powerful, but my graphics board has 4X times the memory and could run circles around the cell. If the PC version doesn't look the best in the end it is simply because the developer didn't pay enough attention to the platform.

[hellzsupernova]

my ps3 is more powerful then my pc :O lol.

[YodaCracker]

Yeah, right! I've heard that one before. Crysis 2 anyone? PS3 owners can dream, though, LOL.

[earbus]

splinter cell was allways more intersting anyway have no intention of getting it .

[RE_L_MAYER]

Why everyone is whining about snake not being in it,he had all the previous games already-its time for someone new(yeah in mgs 2 Jack was kinda of. A puss but he was trying)anyway its not a MGS 5 anyway its just rising so don't buy it if you don't like the main character

[LOLOLFFSA]

Okay then. As an Xbox player I have not ever been into "MGS". I think there was one MGS on the original Xbox but yeah. The game looks decent. Dont care if its better on PS3. No interest here. Too many other great titles coming this year.

[Inzo]

I have three major concerns about this game, will it stay true to the MGS series, will we still have the lengthy engaging cut-scenes(I dont thinks so due to lack of disc space of other platforms) and can it live up to the standard of what MGS4 has set all that being said I will still get this game.

[tubers]

Multi plat?

Heavy AA, AF, true 1080p/1080p+, 60FPS

I smell goodness for the PC... well not unless this has a Stage 5 case of Consolitis.

Oh well.. just happy it would at least be grazing the PC :)

[jay2]

And it'd be so much better if all the funds they'd spent on the 360/PC all went on PS3, and yeah, there's Move support.

[jneul]

Lol of course its more superior this is a ps dev we are talking about, they know hoe to get the best out of ps3. 360 in reality is not as powerful and too many debate are lazy, if they all bothered we would get more games like this and dead space 2 which is awesome!!

[bennj]

PC > PS3 > Xbox 360

[thedarkestfaction]

Duh, WINNING!

[Shane Kim]

I just want this out allready.

[lee_ten]

and yet no one is focusing on whether the gameplay will actually be good!

[CrimsonEngage]

The only way this game is going to be better on PS3 than PC is if they deliberately dumb the PC version down. My PC is far superior then that of a PS3.

I have a Quad core (3.2ghz) and TWO GTX580's. And 3 times the RAM.

[hellzsupernova]

doesnt make it better. if they dont work the mouse and keyboard in properly and it feels forced it would be worse. because i would say they are building this game around the controller

[CrimsonEngage]

Not sure if you are aware of this or not but PC's have the capability of using CONTROLLERS. I use my 360 controller for games on PC all the time.

Another reason PC > PS3.

[Grey Fox 92]

The piece of news appears to be fake, there's no trace of the interview on CVG.com!

[SuperSaiyan4]

PC games are on DVD right? So how comes PC games look far superior to the PS3? I mean looking at the PS3 all that 50gb of blu-ray space still does not even come close to a pc game like Crysis. You PS3 fanbabies really do talk some tripe its unreal.

Look at Oblivion for a second on the Xbox 360 that was on a DVD and only used around 4.9gb and it looks and plays amazing. Now Skyrim is on the way...PC dvd, Xbox 360 DVD...Only reason why the PS3 needs blu-ray is because of all that software emulation to get the graphics high enought because neither the old GPU or Cell can offer it hardware wise.

[Nivalis]

Whoever thinks the PC version will look better than the PS3 version clearly hasn't played a Konami made PC game.