Try Not To Care About Echochrome II After Watching This

Kotaku: We love games that involve shadows. But no one on team Kotaku was buzzing about Echochrome ii. Then I saw it yesterday running on a PS3, controlled by the wand-like Move controller. And now I can't shut up about it.

[Bigpappy]

I admire the creative side of it, but I don't fell it will entertain me for long.

[GWAVE]

But these are the core/hardcore Move games people want. Where's Kinect's answer? Shadow Puppets Extreeeeeme from Konami as a timed exclusive?

[sikbeta]

Echochrome II will be so much better than the first one, the shadow implementation put it to another level, simply great

@Conloles

that's why you're here, right dude?

[-Alpha]

ECHOCHROME2 WAS ANNOUNCED? WTF, WHEN??

Edit: HOLY HELL, OMG THE SHADOWS! I'll explain why this is a big deal below.

For anyone that hasn't played Echochrome:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
It's a simple concept, but the execution is amazing. If I'm not mistaken it's one of those games that taxes the PS3 hardware. You don't expect it to have so much horsepower, and you don't realize it, but trust me, the concept makes you appreciate the game.

I find it to be THE most underrated game on the PSN store. I find it lacks popularity simply because it doesn't hold interest for the average gamer long. It's like a game of chess-- takes time, practice, but is very rich and rewarding. As opposed to playing Twister with your friends.

I adore it. Simple concept, but very deep and complicated, an awesome puzzle game that uniquely uses perspective to work. It's one of the few games where I feel like my brain isn't rotting. Makes me feel smart.

I am not just saying this, I have wanted to express my love for this game for a long time now.

Also, I am very proud to see how Move is being utilized here. It's hard to explain, but the game is complicated for the PS3. It's a game that plays minds on your tricks, it's an illusion game and it's one of those games where it feels as if your PS3 is doing all this multitasking to keep up with the concept. With shadows, it makes the game even more complicated both for the mind to process and I assume for the PS3. You play in real-time, and move the camera in ways that change the perspective of the level. It's so hard to explain

AH, wish I could explain this better to those missing out.

Btw, this game has user-created levels, and Youtube support. Trust me, it's good bang for your buck if you are willing to invest your brain into it.

[morganfell]

No he is here because the regret of backing the other console eats at him like a cancer. In reality he is angry at himself.

[skip2mylou]

conloles you dont even own any consoles why the hell should we care about what you think

[SeanRL]

Looks cool, I hope they can pull it off and make an amazing game. I'll admit, echochrome outsmarted me many times but I love it's simplicity.

[darkmurder]

Lol He doesnt own a console hey? I vaguely remember when he uploaded these as proof.

http://img517.imageshack.us...
http://img29.imageshack.us/...

[HolyOrangeCows]

EchoChrome 2 looks awesome. VERY cool use of the Move.

[Hoje0308]

@Conloles
Why isn't anyone making sure you stay under your bridge?

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

This will stimulate brain cell growth.
Cool educational game for my boys at home.
Do your kids a favor and play this awesome game with them.
This should be lots of fun!

[commodore64]

and i don't care for it. Now what?

[ChickeyCantor]

How is this a core game?
Its casual as hell. Just because you have to think doesnt mean its hardcore.

Do people even know wtf they are talking about these days?
(and wtf does kinect have to do with his comment?)

Either way I like the concept, but have to go with Bigpappy, im not sure how long iwt will entertain me.

[UnwanteDreamz]

FYI No one has been able to agree on what a hardcore gamer is. The term is thrown around but has no agreed apon criteria. Now how can you claim to know what a core game is when people can't agree on what a hardcore gamer is?

Just asking.

[ExplosionSauce]

If I can play this with the DS3, I'm down.
First one was interesting, but Echoshift on PSP was more fun.

[gaffyh]

I still haven't completed echochrome 1 it is really long, there are loads of levels.

[SaberEdge]

I had a lot of fun with the first Echochrome so this should be great.

[TheObserver]

Bigpappy, I remember you defending Kinect's Bowling game against my suggestion of cheaper start up cost if you play real Bowling.

http://n4g.com/news/564236/...

Gee, I wonder if Kinect will entertain you enough to warrant your vigilant defense and willingness to fork out high start up costs. LMAO.

[Bigpappy]

I just said the game is interesting, just not my type of entertainment. Do you see that as bashing the game? I don't see myself playing Kinectimals either. Unlike you, you will not find me posting fanboy junk against the Move. I happen to see Move as a very plausable alternative to a standard controller. It sould work fine for most hardcore game. In fact my only beef with Move is that it has too many variations (sometimes 1, sometimes 2, sometimes a sub,...) for one game to the next, which could affect the cost. But you can not show that I am running around the site attacking the Move, because I simply do not engage in such childish fanboy wars. What ever I said about loving the Kinect ideas, is how I truly feel. I wish it were cheaper, but I accepted the price and pre-ordered. I am obviously not swayed by what is posted here by fanboys. I know I am hated for my choices, but that is your problem, not mine.

[bjornbear]

YOU

[Information Minister]

This has everything to do with Kinect, because "I admire the creative side of it, but I don't feel it will entertain me for long" is a phrase that defines the entire Kinect experience.

But clearly you made your choice, you admit so yourself. Claiming that "Unlike you, you will not find me posting fanboy junk against the Move" is not only hypocrisy but also a direct contradiction to your actions on this story. If you love Kinect and don't care for Move, then you should stay away or at least avoid commenting on articles like this one.

EDIT - Let me clarify that I'm in no way defending Sony's Move. I still hate the damn thing, along with Kinect and the shift in developer focus/publisher investment that these devices represent.

[BloodyNapkin]

149.00 dollars with a game is a high start up cost, which you can have 2 people play at the same time. So how much does move cost for 2 people to play with a game? I am not defending kinect in anyway, but your comment is very flawed and obscured.

[RyuCloudStrife]

WHAOOO! I made a snake, LOL, its almost a snake, i got credit for makin a snake LOL

this game will not make me buy a PS Move, and i do not care for Echochrome after watching this vid thanks

[HowarthsNJ]

Try this one:

http://cdn.static.viddler.c...

[Mike134nl]

With or without the move it's an interesting game, use of move is a nice bonus.

[RyuCloudStrife]

im sorry HowarthsNJ this game just seems plain stupid

[HowarthsNJ]

http://blog.us.playstation....

[Shani]

hey, thanks for the link.
Great to see other great video about echochrome 2.
I am ready to put my brain into it. Can't wait to get this game.

[TROLL EATER]

still dnt care

[kevnb]

thats not really a good way to show it off.

[mastiffchild]

I find it amazing that people will use their own taste as a reason to troll these days! It takes not having a life to a whole new low level.

I'm not particularly interested in Echochrome2 myself but had a look to see why Kotaku(of all the Sony hating editorial staff n the world-though at least we know where the rift came from there even if it was a feeble journalistic choice to make it was, at least, honest of Crecente)were impressed and I'd be a liar if I couldn't see why they were.

Does it mean I'll be more into the game? No, but it's very cool and clever use of the tech at hand and further proof that Sonyside devs are really trying to push what can be done with these things. I'm more impressed by Sorcery and feel there's a ton of growth possible in similar areas as with both the Chameleon tech demo and the throwing sword and mannequin stuff. Why people want to bash it in threads they purport to have ZERO interest in s one of the mysteries on N4G but it's the usual suspects again and you have to wonder just what made them so bitter.

As for conloles-he doesn't even seem to realise that his attitude is exactly what makes a lot of console only gamers turn away from the PC. It's actually pretty sad. It's the same elitist crap that I have to berate one of my own PC gaming chums about all the time and the same kind of thing that meant console gamers laughed when the dedicated servers were ripped away from PC MW2 last year rather than standing with them and demanding them for us all. I guess I'd understand a bit more if they actually upset people but all it really does it make people think they don't want to mix with them and that just weakens our whole community.

[kevnb]

console gamers have the attitude that nobody plays on pc, and that pc gamers are stupid for paying so much to have no games... Its not our fault that half you console owners dont even care that you pay for peer 2 peer online play. Or that 90% of you dont even care that your games are lag fests online with auto-aim. Yes i can understand for some pc gaming is too hard or too much work, its the same reason why fast food is so popular... its also the same reason why dvds are still so much more popular than blu-ray to the point where people will angrily say they dont need blu-ray.

[cyberwaffles]

the complexity intrigues me. it's ambiguity reminds me of a LSD trip for some reason. with that being said, the day that science and technologists can successfully recreate "altered states of mind" type of visuals and exquisite trips that are similar to human beings', i will jump on that bandwagon in no time.

sorry if i'm sounding like a druggie or whatever. i'm comingdown from a god-awful drug and in a weird comatosis-like trance. i'm not even sure why i'm saying all this. i'm so lost right now.

anyways, don't do drugs people. anything dealing with visual illusions reminds me of drugs which is probably why i'm typing so much. also, my attention span seems so short that i honestly don't know what i'm talking about again.

DON'T DO(HARD)DRUGS PEOPLE! such a coincidence that i've came across this echochrome news. my idiosyncrasies concerning drugs and video games somehow eloquently synced up today for some reason.

[cyberwaffles]

i completely agree with you man. you and me are both on the same page and probably on the same kind of drug, right? the intricate design of this game reminds me of how almost humanly inconceivable it is to fully describe a strong hallucinogenic trip to sober people. it's like me and you are seeing something that others can't, and it's so hard to describe to others that it leaves you flabbergasted and annoyed that you can't fully represent what you feel and see to others in a manner that accurately makes sense.

i know exactly how you feel!

[Nitrowolf2]

That is awesome, this is one Move Title that i want

[LEO_cst]

i'm buying move day 1.

[Raoh]

looks damn good

[SolidSystem]

still dont care.

looks cool and interesting, but not my style.

[madara0sama]

/care

[Lavalamp]

First Chameleons, then flaming hadoukens, and now awesome shadow puzzles!? I can only process so much awesomeness a day! Move is looking pretty sweet!

[inception123]

i wish big games had the same level of creativity as downloadable psn games. this is just another game that proves move is better then other motion controls. you get the creative gameplay and it has the play.create.share. stuff like lbp and mnr.

[TheTeam06]

Although I think it's really cool, I don't necessarily care for the whole game in the "I'm going to log hours into it" way.

With that said, I do care for its publicity. I hope it gets noticed because it's games like this that show innovative new ideas actually can be brought to the Move and that they haven't all been done on the Wii. By the looks of it, none of the others can release a game that manipulates the 3D environments like this, which gives the Move a +1 in the uniqueness department.

Now if only they can have you say "shape" into the mic when you come up with a shadow figure so the game can pick your voice up and correspond to it. Not that I would care for it. I just want people to see that voice recognition isn't something special. Quite frankly, it's a cheap gimmick that someone is charging you $150 for. It's like no one has ever heard of ENDWAR. It's not like voice recognition is special.

[megazeroxuxm]

why are ppl comparing a new model of the wiimote to an old model of a wiimote, it's like comparing an old car to a new car, of course the move is gonna be better, plus it looks like a dildo xD. ps3 is like an updated wii with the move. plus this "shadow" concept has been done http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[silkrevolver]

...they realize they can cater to the hardcore and casual audience, all at the same time. They allow all of their big first party titles (like Killzone 3) to be played with both the move and Dualshock... they give you the option. They also have the casual party games, which anyone can enjoy. Then they have games like this and Sorcery. Games that really wouldn’t be the same without the move, and are truly enjoyable for the hardcore. I already have two moves and two sub controllers reserved. I can’t wait.

[PSfan09]

cant wait

ps- the cake is a lie

[Spenok]

Freakin sweet. Yet another reason to own Move.

[megazeroxuxm]

yah dude, the move is a day 1 buy for my gf. she said the ball seems like it would fit perfectly. and the dual shock 3 just pretty much sealed the deal for her :)

[Karl Marx]

lol^

[joypads]

this is why we LOVE SONY & we know without it the gaming world will be all about generic shooters like halo & gears.a very boring world that is.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I wouldn't call Gears 2 generic. I loved the campaign! Try it sometime.

Everything else...yeah.

[megazeroxuxm]

dude gears story line is very good, if you're gonna rant be a bit fair, i mean gears a good game, it has a very action packed story line. its actually the only game that i enjoy, story based, that is exclusive to the 360. you should play gears 1 sometimes, it's on the pc, so u wont have to disrespect yourself and shell out for a 360 XD

[LogicalFanboy]

this just proves Move is for da hardcore and da casual...i definitely gotta get it

[kevnb]

echochrome is a hardcore game now?

[Neo Nugget]

Damnit. I don't wanna have to get Move, but it looks SO COOL.

[Ri0tSquad]

Oh wait....

Lol, seriously though, it looks cool.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Very interesting.

[EinRobot]

that is fresh. I want to play.

[tiamat5]

Kind of feel bad for anyone who isn't byuing Move because of the unfair exaggerated Wii/Kinect and price comparisons being made They are really going to miss out on some great games and experiences like this. Ah well, maybe they will change their minds when it actually comes out.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Absolutely genius!

[TheHardware]

sony really is backing up their claim of backing the move, all the while reinventing their older titles and introducing new ones

omg im a fanboy

[dragonyght]

one of the hidden gem of e3

[chazjamie]

seems like little big planet could benefit from this

[PSjesus]

Srsly,the first one was greatest and most unique puzzle game,even though
many PS3 owner never heard of it.

[Redempteur]

i believe some ads are being worked ATM to be ready for MOVE launch.

I don't dislike puzzles games so ..well i'm a little intrested

[NnT3291]

This is very creative

[syrion]

insteresting...
after watch the video, this made me want to buy ps move

[bjornbear]

saw a demo a while back like this, but this is looking great! I wonder if e will get to play with colours/mirrors! =D

[il-mouzer]

didn't know it was announced - echochrome is the only game from the psn network i have bought and I'm really hooked. now that there's a second version planned I'm really excited :D

I'm also happy that the developers didn't just follow the modern trend and released their sequel with just a bunch of new maps etc
kudos to sony

[Morituri]

That looks pretty friggin innovative. I've always felt that sony thinks outside the box with alot of its games. That's why alot of games go unnoticed.

[ChickeyCantor]

If people think this is impressive how come this game isn't getting any love

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

?

[kevnb]

many here are wrapped around sony's finger, theyve been in love with playstation for a decade and a half and will love anything they show.

[WLPowell]

and serves ps3 owners no purpose? Why are wii owners making a big deal out of trackmania but not modnation? See how stupid your logic sounds when flipped?

[ChronoJoe]

Because in this game, you play as the light source.

In that game, you play as the... humanoid, shadow form.

There's a distinct difference. One is innovative. One looks like a 2D Zelda sidescroller. I don't think the Wii can handle high quality dynamic shadows like this, regardless.

[xg-ei8ht]

Whether you like it or not, that's pretty smart stuff.

[megazeroxuxm]

because this game was announced last year and has been in the work for a loooong time http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[WLPowell]

sony copied this game the, first in it's series, with echochrome TWO. go look at the first echochrome, the gameplay for that one is similar, this formula makes the most sense when including move.

[HeroXIV]

This is insanely imaginative of the developers. If it's available at the launch of move I'll definitely buy it!!

[XabiTheHumble]

Interesting..

[negative]

I guess this article is fail. Cuz I still don't give a crap about echocrome.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Absolutely brilliant. The first echochrome was a fantastic game. I can't wait to try out the Move integration in the second installment.

[Agent_Cody_Banks]

Wow, that looked fucking boring.

[Makavelli1527]

Can't wait for this to come out i was watching Inception and that made me think of this game when they were building levels

[Kleptic]

i'm and idiot...I had to watch the video twice to even understand what was going on...I could see the shadows moving, then thought the guy was just making a reptile or something...didn't even notice the little guy walking around on the shadow haha...

[Holeran]

This is definitely a game that makes your brain work in ways you are not used to useing it on a daily basis. Like some other games that make you think more than just doing the motions on the screen you need to be logical about your choices and until you start useing the part in your brain that isn't used to this kind of activity you won't reap the rewards and also won't succeed in the game. Another game that comes to mind in the same type of vain is cuboid.

[GabeTheFatPrincess]

This the kind of stuff I want from Move. Certainly better than a little girl talking to a virtual tiger

skiiiiiitlllessss lol.

[Claudinho69]

have you ever tried echocrome on weed??

[cossie123]

whoopy fkin doo lets make shadows with the move control.

[MostJadedGamer]

Cann't for the life of me understand why everybody is so hyped about this game. Looks extremely boring to me, and not something I would even consider playing.

[Cajun Chicken]

Is it wrong that this alone has sold me a Move later down the line?

[TheLastGuardian]

I watched the video and I still don't give a damn about echochrome 2.

[RyuCloudStrife]

this games not interesting it looks wack try to convince me with some other game that isnt soo gimmicky WACK!!

[jalen247]

Day 1

[GeoramA]

Now I need a Move day 1 just to play this.

This looks so brilliant.

[N4GAddict]

It looks cool. Ill give it a try once Move becomes cheaper

[bviperz]

Sick! Another echochrome addiction.

[Redlight]

Couldn't I just do that with my Dualshock?