According to Sony Computer Entertainment New Zealand boss Warwick Light he is "hoping next year... to release a digital tuner for the PS3, turning it into a programmable TV recorder."
everything extra helps sell consoles etc, and i do agree it will be sweet and hope to get it when i buy a PS3 BUT, i see this as copying MS with the IPTV.
Went over your head, did it? The idea of the average person expecting to just plug in a USB receiver to watch/record TV on their PS3 certainly warranted a sarcastic reply.
Could even be out this year in Europe as Freeview doesn't launch in New Zealand untill 2008 but is widely available in the UK and I think Europe aswell.
Sony's been saying that for about 5 years now. It was at the Sony BB (Broadband-something or another) expo in Japan, March 2002 I believe (2003?). They said they were hoping to have TiVo-like functionality added to the (then) recently announced HD and network adapter. As with Home, it was delayed a generation, but this functionality has been on the backburner for a long time.
Im a 360 owner...but sony deserves credit for a lot of things. PS3 has all the features and it packs more value in the system. The only reason Im sticking with 360 is cause the 360 has the games and sequels that I like...dvr abilities = nice...cause I hate having to pay a monthly fee to dishnetwork for the dvr...
That's why I got Beyond TV from Snapstream.net Take a look, if you have a spare PC (or parts you can snap together). Well worth it with better features than you get commercially.
I´m sorry, razer, someone gave you a disagree. I think it´s great to have a normal discussion between 360 and PS3 camps without having to start a fight. You were only stating facts. Users like you and persian_prince are great, you´re giving another point of view! Bubbles!
Of course people disagree. A media Center is an expensive computer. To compare that with an USB feature is wrong.
I have both Media Center and a 360 too. Might as well use the MCE for watching recordings. It has to be turned on anyway. You can do that with a $50 DVD player.
As you can see thats what they are trying to do, looking for a reason to downplay a positive feature of a system seems a bit negatory. Its not like there mindset is to "forget all games!! Just focus on the system!!" ps3 is facing the same drought every game its first year has.
I guess it's just me, but a tv tuner in a GAME CONSOLE is just useless. It's like having that 3 in 1 print/fax/scanner device. Pretty cool concept but when realized never is what it was intended and never that reliable.
Yes I did, as an example in the case of fax/copier/scanner/printer. Those combo system are never reiable. So if sony wants to come out with a SKU with TV tuner/DVR recorder/Blu-Ray player/Game console, I don't think it's a good idea, it feels like a gimmick, nothing more.
Now, I know where you are trying to go with this "reliability?" question. Go ahead if you want to, but i'm not a fanboy so I'm not going to 'bite'. Besides why does the other console have to come up. Either you think a DVR in the PS3 is a good idea or not.
it is just you wille, you lost me when you said print/fax/scanner as just a good concept go bad. Look around you man, print/fax/scanner is replacing standalone printer. People are moving toward all-in-one but just not you. I guess some people just got too comfortable with past technology and want to remain there. Your reasoning at combo is not realible is laughable. Ever heard of generalizing?
Ok so its not for you, but you were having a go at them for doing it as if for some reason they had to pull developers off games to build a Tivo for them.
And no ones talking about another SKU, its just an add on, for those that want it its a good feature. How does that hurt you?
Just made an observation. As far as being caught and comfortable in the past or being laughable. XxZxX, come on man, no need for that. I work in the film business, and work with some of the latest technology. "Everyone" is not going to all-in one, not when the tech needs to be the best. That's why my audio engineer has uses headphones without an AM/FM tuner in it. That why my cameraman doesn't show up with a cellphone camera. And it's also why advertising agencys have dedicated "stand alone" printers to deliver proofs when quality matters. So when you say "I guess some people just got too comfortable with past technology and want to remain there. Your reasoning at combo is not realible is laughable. Ever heard of generalizing?" Maybe I was generalizing, using my industry as the norm. But it i think you might be a little guilty of it too.
As far as it being an add-on, that's my bad. I assumed it would be a SKU because it would need the video connections and such. Maybe the plan is to add it thru USB. Bathyj, your right it doesn't hurt, if it's an add on. I never thought they would remove devs from a game to build TIVO. Just thought they should just focus on the games as much as they can. Looking back at my first post in this thread, it does have the air of malicious sarcasm, that wasn't the intent. My bad.
Appreciate good debate, and you guys did it with relative respect. BUBBLES FOR YOU BOTH.
I respect those that deserve it and earn it Dude, and you just have. Its good that you can accept a little criticism when given without malice. I'm pleasantly surprised. A few more guys like us around and we can bring a little class into this site. ;)
And if I was a little quick to jump on your case I can only say, you know what its like when you're reading a positive thread, and everyone has something good to say and then the inevitable post come along that seems to have no other purpose but to sour the mood in the room? Well sorry Dude, I guess you were just first in line. Anyway, no harm done and have a bubble back at ya.
WTF are you talking about? 3 in one office machines like printer/scanner/fax are great, I have one and it save me a ton of space. I guess you hate those machines because you're an idiot, which also explains why you love paying a monthly fee for your cable company's DVR box.
I think we can all argee that specialized devices will provide a higher quality experience than a generalized one, but there are other factors to consider. For a ad agency, print could be their main gig, so they need that uber-printer, and same for the sound guy with Sennheiser headphones.
Some of us don't need that level though. I have an all in one at home, because I don't want 3 devices sitting in my office taking up space. It's not the "best", but it gets the job done to my expectations, and it's lasted me 7 years.
The Sony approach of doing more than games is why I have a PS3. I can play games (not a lot right now I know, but I stil have my great PS2 games upcscaled, and yes Okami looks great), watch BluRay HD movies, upscale my old DVD's, and access all of my pictures, music, & movies from my server via DLNA. (on any old windows with tversity, not "Media Center" only).
That said, I think that while I would stick with my cable box for DVR'ing, others might not have/want that option, so it's nice that it's out there for them if they want it.
When you have something useful to contribute then please do. Until then, put your "I LUV SONY" panties back on get back to jacking off in front of your shiny black box instead of playing games.
It would be great if you could play ps3 games and in the background, it record tv programs. Sony might implement that in a later release, I doubt it would be part of the initial DVR release, but anything can happen.
I strongly doubt that. Even with one SPU available, someone still needs to transfer the data thru USB2 (?) into mem. If the tuner can encode the signal, or it is already encoded, well, maybe. But still, you gotta feed in data thru DMA into mem, while the game tries to get every cycle out of the HW. DMA also causes constant IRQs and takes some PPU cycles away as well. Can't imagine this is possible in a way, you won't feel that in the game...(but hey, downloading in the BG also works without slow down).
So will you have to leave the PS3 on 24/7 or will it magically turn on in the middle of the night to record? Will it be using 300+ watts of power? I'm curious because I might utilize this feature if I don't have to leave it on.
Please help me understand one thing... Will Sony provide a service like IPTV or cable TV.. or I have to plug my service to it to record the shows?
These are some valid questions.. and in no shape or form are intended to flame the PS3...
but.... pretty much everything records tv now in days...
you can use Media Center and record your shows... You can get Tivo... You can pay $9/month and get DVR from your service provider... Why would I get another box to do what my cable box can already do... can program it to record entire seasons.. etc...
I can see a nice use for it though... since the PS3 hard drive can be replaced at anytime... I can hookup my xbox 360 with IPTV service to the PS3 so It can record my shows... since it has a bigger drive than the xbox 360... ;)
my guess is that it downloads the programming info using an internet connection (ps3's wifi). I'm guessing the user input's their zip code and what service they're using (satellite, cable) as well as their provider (directv, dish, cox).
If I could replace my Cable box for that, would save me the rent on the damn thing. I still don't know why I can't simply go out and buy a set-top-box of my choice. Also, I think the PS3 can scale video pretty good. My TFT scales like scrap, but DVDs on the PS3 look great now. The same is true for SD resolution. If I can at least use the PS3 as a working scaler (or picture enhancer), that would already be worth it.
Wow, sony is awsome for even thinking of including things like this. When i bought my ps3 i didnt expect anything except a blu-ray player and a fun gaming console.. but now it upscales, media shares, and soon will record tv! im sure im even missing a few other features but still im amazed by sony and their vision to not just including all of this in a ps4 but to make our investment even better! ... Good ish SONY
' ' That's all PS3 is doing. 360 has been doing this from DAY 1. But W3lcom3 to the REAL next-gen! ' '
But what about those x360 with no hardrive ehh? yeah welcome to next gen. where game devs have problems making the games how they want it beacuase your next gen. console lacks a hardrive.
' ' And we'll see the IPTV 360 this Holiday season which will blow any BluRay out the water. ' '
LMAO keep dreaming kid.
on topic i would love to be able to record show on my PS3,really it already upcales my dvds so no need for a dvd player in my room so the most space saving my PS3 becomes the most i love it. like i said PS3 just keep geeting better and better with time.
ALL 360s can connect to any PC out the box...just like MOST cell phones, camcorders, some stereo receivers, etc. but UNLIKE the PS3.
Oh and contrary to Sony fanboy belief-almost everyone stores their digital media on the PC. (Easier to catalog, edit, etc.)
So streaming media to your console would be preferred than transfering it to your consoles' hdd.
And if you knew anything about IPTV...along with the the ability to d/l HD movies from the Xbox Marketplace = no NEED for Bluray or HDDVD. It will simply be an OPTION. How many options do you have to view HD movies on your PniS3?
i dont understand what this means but do i need a dish or anything for this or is it something i can just buy plug into the ps3 and watch? i dont have sky, free view or anything like that, and my new 32 inch samsung HD tv didnt have one included. HELP
i know it's off topic but i'm a lil miffed. I just finished watching 300 on my ps3 and i put on my xbox 360 to play some gears till i fell asleep...guess what happened. Freakin RRoD...and the thing wasn't even on so that makes me wonder if it's really an overheating issue. It almost made it to a year too :(
RIP xbox 360. August 28th 2006 - August 1st 2007
I'll call MS tomorrow because their automated "24" hr service is nothing more than automated.
sorry to hear that bro. Mine went out late last year. It was a launch core, premiums were sold out. I'm waiting until later this year to get a new one (falcon), getting a premium this time. Bubble for you bro cause I know what your going through.
November 22, 2005 - December 25, 2006 Last game played: DoAX2
Man that would be sweet...
That means if you have Linux installed you can use myth tv and rewind fast forward record!WOW!!!
Could even be out this year in Europe as Freeview doesn't launch in New Zealand untill 2008 but is widely available in the UK and I think Europe aswell.
I've been saying that since 2005.
If they had had this option from the start it would have been the ultimate machine.
HD Game Console
Media Center/Tivo/Music player
HD Movie playback
very nice i wont use it know i be to busy playing games.