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Sony should follow Microsoft and bring PlayStation exclusives to Xbox

Microsoft has confirmed that four first-party games are heading to PlayStation, and with Sony planning to adapt its own exclusivity plans, we think now is a great time for Sony's first-party games to head to Xbox.

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Einhander197269d ago

No.

Sony should not only not put their games on xbox, Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles.

Microsoft is costing them more than the pennies they will make selling their old games and dollar store indies. Let Microsoft suffer the burden of buying up all these publishers with no way to properly support them.

Einhander197269d ago (Edited 69d ago )

And I just want to add that this BS is exactly what Microsoft wants, they want to put a bunch of crappy indies and failing games on PlayStation then pay websites to write a bunch of BS about how PlayStation now "owes" Microsoft it's games.

This is the same scam Microsoft has been running since they duped Sony into agreeing to cross play.

Where are the calls for Nintendo to release it's games on xbox eh? Of course that's not getting written, this is just another scam scheme media smear campaign cooked up and paid for by Microsoft.

InUrFoxHole69d ago

What bad game is xbox trying to put on PS? Please explain to me how having more places to play games is bad for gamers...

_SilverHawk_69d ago

Yeah sony should follow Microsoft and sell less games and gaming consoles also because it seems like xbox plans have been very successful.

crazyCoconuts69d ago

@silverhawk - correct. May I be so bold as to suggest Sony should hire Phil away as their next CEO so that he can repeat his winning formula at PlayStation

fr0sty69d ago

Sony is the market leader, for them to take their exclusive games, which give people reason to buy a PS5 over an Xbox Series S/X, and give them to Microsoft would be stupid. Microsoft is doing it because they have no other choice, their shareholders are getting pissed that they spent nearly $100 billion buying out the industry and still aren't selling any more consoles or gamepass subs (their gamepass subs are at the same point they were 2 years ago, 34 million, and that's INCLUDING Xbox Live Gold subs). Sony does have a choice, they can kick back and let their competition release their games on PS5, and still keep their exclusives, giving people more reason to buy PS5 and less reason to buy Xbox.

Cacabunga68d ago

How can ps bring their games to Xbox when they are abandoning hardware??? So people who write these article aware of what they are writing?

shinoff218368d ago (Edited 68d ago )

Funny thing about cross-platform alpt of these younger ones don't know or even refuse to acknowledge is that Sony was more open to this it was originally ms that had the issue with it. At the time they were high and mighty with the 360. I'm not looking it up but look up cross play Defiance.

Far as bad games ms is pushing idk yet the 4 rumored games have a decent track record, I'd buy grounded and hinfi if released physically. Haven't heard of then trying to push redfall or anything.

Rossi-4-ever68d ago

What xbox wants is games like God of War, Horizon & GT7 on their console because they fully well know PlayStation make the best games even though the Xbox hardware is better..!!!

itsmebryan68d ago

@_silverHawk
Did you miss when Sony missed their console sales target by 4 MILLION? What about Sony's operating income dropping by 26%? That means they have over 25% less money for R&D, game development , etc... Those numbers are straight from Sony. Sony is not doing as well as you pretend. That is why they are looking for new revenue sources because PS5 and PS5 only games sales are not making it.

InUrFoxHole68d ago

@Frosty
Mark my words. Sony will be day and date on pc and will have more games on other platforms. If we know anything it's more $ is what these companies want

Jingsing67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

They also duped Sony into releasing games on PC too which they didn't need to do, Spider-man on Steam 60k+ units vs 10 million on PlayStation. Sony won't feel the pain of that move until PS6. When PS6 launches many people will say, these games are coming to PC so I'll just wait.

Andrew33667d ago

@Jingsing what are you smoking? Spiderman on PC did fantastic for Sony and when 2 comes out on PC it will be even better.

Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered has sold 1.5 million PC copies.

Marvel's Spider-Man still isn't done writing its page in gaming history, even as Insomniac keeps teasing villains for the sequel. Namely, the Remastered edition of the game just broke a UK sales record by becoming Sony's biggest PC launch in the country, surpassing God of War by a significant margin.

VariantAEC64d ago

PlayStation was first to allow cross play back in the PS2 era with games like Final Fantasy Online between PS2 and PC. PS reintroduced cross play between different PlayStation console generations PS2, PSP, PS3, and PS Vita. That was all well before Xbox started allowing crossplay in the Xbox One era between Xbox consoles and PCs to bolster Microsoft's online engagement numbers.

VariantAEC64d ago

@Jingsing
PS also released games on PC way back in the 90s. Not sure they were day and date then, but most aren't day and date now. I agree PS didn't need to do it and you are one of the few people who also recognizes these games aren't selling well on PC either. PC gamers are pirates first and foremost. The PC audience is more than 7 times larger than the entire current-gen console market and yet the global game revenue on PC is mostly relegated to F2P microtransactions... not software sales. Makes me really wonder why Steam even exists. Most PC gamers probably just steal quite literally everything given real software sales numbers for games... either that or hardcore PC gamers are actually one of the smallest audiences.

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BeHunted69d ago

"Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles."

Then there'll be lawsuits heading their way...

Einhander197269d ago

Sony and Nintendo, Steam and Epic control licensing on their own platform, they do not have to offer licenses, they deny games all the time.

But it would be karmically hilarious if Microsoft had to sue to get Sony and Nintendo to save them.

VenomUK68d ago

@Einhander1972 Great opening post that sums up the strong sentiment of many.

I’m of the opinion that if Microsoft does bring its shovelware of Grounded than Sony should tell it to back off - that kinda nonsense actually would demean the PlayStation platform.

tay870168d ago (Edited 68d ago )

They don't have to allow it. But they will gladly take their 30% cut

Jin_Sakai69d ago

“Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles.“

Sony will get a 30% cut on all those games and PlayStation fans get to enjoy those once Xbox exclusives. Just don’t expect Sony to release their games on Xbox because it isn’t going to happen. Xbox isn’t even selling well enough to warrant the trouble.

Einhander197269d ago

Thirty percent is nothing compared to how much xbox's existence costs them.

Microsoft is taking 70% and using that money to undermine Sony in every way possible, this whole thing is a con to undermine Sony, you're in an article calling for Sony to give up its software and other advantages.

Microsoft gains FAR more than Sony does by having their software on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles. Sony and Nintendo should not make it's business be helping Microsoft bottom line,

When Microsoft stops making xbox then we can start talking about putting their games on other consoles.

Christopher69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

**** Microsoft gains FAR more than Sony does by having their software on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles. Sony and Nintendo should not make it's business be helping Microsoft bottom line, ***

No, just no.

First, Sony gets 30% off the full price. The cost to them is a massive fraction of that.

Second, Microsoft doesn't get 70%, they get whatever is left after marketing/development costs. Including on going costs.

Third, Microsoft also loses marketing to just one console and the higher likelihood that the much larger market reach of Sony. They could lose Xbox sales to people who own both (which is likely most Xbox owners). Game Pass is the biggest thing on Xbox right now, otherwise most people buy their games on Steam compared to Xbox. This will be even more with the transition to a PlayStation release.

With the way Microsoft and Sony are doing it, curating releases of older titles to other platforms, it is the perfect solution. It gets them more money, but also the platform holder. And, it increases the market reach of possible fans of their games (a la Minecraft). Everyone is winning in that game while still maintaining the importance of exclusivity for new releases.

I don't think Microsoft will do same day releases. That would be the worst outcome for them. It would be giving up the whole point of their platform. Same with Sony. I do think certain titles held by third-party license holders will likely force some same day releases, but I don't see it happening otherwise unless one of these hardware manufacturers goes completely out of business.

Einhander197269d ago (Edited 69d ago )

"First, Sony gets 30% off the full price. The cost to them is a massive fraction of that."

If you want to try to nitpick like that Sony Steam Nintendo ect. don't get 30% either most services have a sliding scale based on sales. And besides that it costs Sony money to host the files and maintain them on their service. And regardless of percent Microsoft gets more than Sony, end of story.. Make a real argument don't try to nitpick what I say.

"Third, Microsoft also loses marketing to just one console and the higher likelihood that the much larger market reach of Sony. They could lose Xbox sales to people who own both (which is likely most Xbox owners). Game Pass is the biggest thing on Xbox right now, otherwise most people buy their games on Steam compared to Xbox. This will be even more with the transition to a PlayStation release."

If Microsoft thought they were going to lose more than they were making they wouldn't do this, basic logic. They can't sell crap on their own console so they have very little to lose, especially on old arse games and dollar store indies.

"With the way Microsoft and Sony are doing it, curating releases of older titles to other platforms, it is the perfect solution. It gets them more money, but also the platform holder. And, it increases the market reach of possible fans of their games (a la Minecraft). Everyone is winning in that game while still maintaining the importance of exclusivity for new releases."

Sony and Nintendo can do this without selling Microsoft games on their platforms or their games on xbox. You might have heard Sony sold over 21m consoles last year, and Nintendo has sold over 130m Switch's. Sony also holds the record for software sales.

The whole problem here is your whole argument is based on some notion that Sony and Nintendo should want xbox to exist at all or that they need to sell games on xbox. If xbox goes under all those gamers would play their games somewhere else. Sony and Nintendo would make more money without competition.

I don't want Sony or Nintendo to give up ANY market share to help xbox, I want xbox to cease to exist and then Sony and Nintendo can take whatever market share is left. And then Microsoft can put whatever games they still create on PlayStation and Nintendo like all the other publishers do.

Sony and Nintendo should not help Microsoft take their market share, it's as simple as that.

Christopher69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

***If Microsoft thought they were going to lose more than they were making they wouldn't do this, basic logic. They can't sell crap on their own console so they have very little to lose, especially on old arse games and dollar store indies. ***

I'm guessing you just want Microsoft out of the game entirely. Cool. That's a shit deal for us gamers. We need Microsoft in the game. If not for the purpose of at least not selling their studios off to Tencent or the like, then to maintain competition with Sony. Much like Microsoft buying up publishers means less competition, so does Microsoft leaving mean the exact same thing. Sony isn't here benevolently. They will maximize profits.

So, if you're going into this argument with this, what I would call, rabid viewpoint? Then there's no arguing with you otherwise. You just want them gone and there is no 'logic' here other than that for you.

But, if you're not, then your logic is all wrong on what this means for the balance of power and what it means for how hurt Microsoft is in the game that they are even testing this out with old games. This is a potential sway towards Microsoft expanding their software options to more than just PC because obviously they're not getting everything they want with their current model of business. Especially with the near $90b tag over their head and the need for Game Pass to start making bucket loads of profit to make sense.

Chevalier68d ago

"That's a shit deal for us gamers. We need Microsoft in the game. If not for the purpose of at least not selling their studios off to Tencent or the like"

What? The only thing anyone should need from Microsoft is to start making better games. It's not Playstation nor Nintendo's issue that MS/Microsoft can't compete. It still blows my mind that they have such insane resources and still fail to make good games.

VariantAEC64d ago

Einhander1972
These MS games will not sell that well on PSN. I am personally interested in HiFi Rush but that would've been on PS5 day one if MS didn't buy Tengo. Outside of that... I don't care. Nothing MS has is interesting me or most other people so unless HiFi Rush sells ten times more units than Minecraft, I'm guessing this won't even slow the sinking ship that is Xbox.

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Obscure_Observer69d ago

"Sony should not only not put their games on xbox, Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles."

This is *why* Xbox gamers don´t want Xbox games to be on Playstation either!

You want everything from Xbox while giving nothing in return. Just remember where you stand next time you go out asking Xbox games to be on your favorite platform.

Einhander197269d ago

The only thing I want from Microsoft is stop making xbox and competing with Sony.

Hofstaderman69d ago

I never wanted xbox games. If any xbox games were worth it I would have bought a Series console. I am not alone in this reasoning based on xbox sales..

Solitariussaint69d ago

Nobody wants Xbox games which is why MS is so desperate to go multiplat now.

Elda69d ago

I own all 3 current consoles but if I solely owned a PS5 I couldn't care less about those 4 old games (HiFi Rush, Pentiment, Sea Of Theives & Grounded) coming to PS. PS or Nintendo doesn't need any XB exclusives...not one knowing PS & it's exclusives do well on its own.

outsider162469d ago

"You want everything from Xbox while giving nothing in return. Just remember where you stand next time you go out asking Xbox games to be on your favorite platform."

You say that like all ps gamers lobbied to microsoft to give up ganes on playstation. No one asked for any of your xbox games on playstation. No ps gamer asked for it. Microsoft made the decision to do that

Jin_Sakai69d ago

“Nobody wants Xbox games which is why MS is so desperate to go multiplat now.”

What if they sell well in PlayStation? Do we call them PlayStation games then.

FinalFantasyFanatic68d ago

I already have a PC and buy most Microsoft games there anyway, the only thing I would want is the remaining Halo and Gears games, I really can't think of many Xbox games I would want if I didn't even have the PC.

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rlow169d ago

They already have a game on Xbox.

MLB the show….. get over it.

Elda69d ago

LOL! A baseball game? The only reason it's on XB because the MLB owns the licence & wanted The Show to be multi-plat. You won't be seeing any PS exclusive action/adventure single player games on an XB.

MrNinosan68d ago

They have Destiny 2 as well.

Christopher69d ago

Sony doesn't need the market share help like Xbox.

But...

***Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles. ***

This is not good thinking. And it honestly sounds more petty than anything else. Sony and Nintendo will take a 30% cut of all game sales just for Microsoft having to use their platform, which means for doing the same thing they do for everyone else, they will be getting paid to compete even more competently against Microsoft. Restricting it only hurts the industry and their bottom line, doesn't help.

Einhander197269d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Microsoft doesn't deserve more than zero percent market share. And certainly it's not Sony and Nintendo's job to help Microsoft get market share, that is crazy talk.

Thirty percent is less than the seventy percent Microsoft is getting, and Microsoft is selling them something they would have gotten if Microsoft didn't buy up publishers, which they are now using to ransom and bully Sony into doing what they want.

And you call me petty in the face of what Microsoft is doing and the fact they would happily put PlayStation out of business and have taken some of the biggest franchises away from PlayStation owners for nothing other than self serving goals. But I'm the petty one... sure...

If Microsoft buys all the publishers (who had very profitable businesses) then can't fund them and damages the industry whos fault is that... it's not Sony and Nintendo's fault.

Are you going to blame Sony and Nintendo for the 5000 people who have lost their jobs due to mergers next? Is it Sony and Nintendo's fault that Microsoft created a game service that destroyed their own profits?

It's absolutely bonkers to think Sony and Nintendo have ANY responsibility in propping up Microsoft.

Microsoft 100% would put PlayStation and Nintendo out of business in a heartbeat.

Christopher69d ago

***And you call me petty in the face of what Microsoft is doing***

Hey, I hate it, but Microsoft is doing legal stuff and spending tons of money to do it that could result in utter failure by 2027. They're going an extremely risky route.

***If Microsoft buys all the publishers (who had very profitable businesses) then can't fund them and damages the industry whos fault is that...***

Theirs. And, guess what, their share holders will force them to sell those purchases to make back losses and to focus on more profitable areas of the business. Microsoft isn't just willing to lose money over and over when they're hurting primarily themselves and their bottom line. Sony and Nintendo aren't reliant on Microsoft still.

***Are you going to blame Sony and Nintendo for the 5000 people who have lost their jobs due to mergers next?***

You're confused and blaming the wrong people. Blame the governments for allowing this level of centralization under one company. Blame ABK for selling in the first place. Blame Gearbox and others with executives focused on lining their pockets with money than concerns for the industry.

*** It's absolutely bonkers to think Sony and Nintendo have ANY responsibility in propping up Microsoft. ***

What's bonkers is you thinking that Microsoft putting their games on other platforms is a sign that they're using Sony and Nintendo and not that they are reliant on them to continue existing. This is a sign of Microsoft heading more and more towards being a software company, not them putting the competition out of business.

Einhander197269d ago

"Hey, I hate it,"

No, you encourage it. You are encouraging it right now.

"Theirs. And, guess what, their share holders will force them to sell those purchases to make back losses and to focus on more profitable areas of the business. Microsoft isn't just willing to lose money over and over when they're hurting primarily themselves and their bottom line. Sony and Nintendo aren't reliant on Microsoft still."

What does that have to do with anything? Let them bleed money, why should I, Sony or Nintendo care? If their shareholder force them to sell, good, hope it happens sooner than later. Hopefully Sony and Nintendo not helping them sell games and make profits accelerates that process. That's kind of my whole point.

"You're confused and blaming the wrong people. Blame the governments for allowing this level of centralization under one company. Blame ABK for selling in the first place. Blame Gearbox and others with executives focused on lining their pockets with money than concerns for the industry."

What the heck are you even talking about... all your doing is shifting the blame and it's a pretty sad attempt at that... This is also just a sad tired "oh hate the government" "government bad" excuse, I'm disappointed you chose to go down that route, perhaps you think by saying "government bad" you'll get upvotes, and on this site you might, but it's still wrong and a bad argument.

(P.S. the FTC is still fighting this merger.)

"What's bonkers is you thinking that Microsoft putting their games on other platforms is a sign that they're using Sony and Nintendo and not that they are reliant on them to continue existing. This is a sign of Microsoft heading more and more towards being a software company, not them putting the competition out of business."

No, if that was true they wouldn't be making another console and they wouldn't be putting old games and indies on PlayStation. When Microsoft starts putting big games on PlayStation and Nintendo and stops competing with them directly then you can make that statement, not until then. Until then they are just using this to to help a business which DIRECTLY competes and takes money away from PlayStation and Nintendo.

FLAT OUT Microsoft is doing this to benefit themselves, not Sony or Nintendo. This is not altruism.

Christopher69d ago

*** No, you encourage it. You are encouraging it right now. ***

No, I'm not. This isn't some all or none game. World doesn't work like that. I'm not sitting here saying "Everyone should buy Microsoft games right now! If you don't buy, you're hurting Microsoft and they need money more than Sony or Nintendo so you have to buy their games!"

Me explaining how business works to you isn't me going "Man, I'm really happy we're in this spot in the first place." Nor do I think "Bleed Microsoft dry and force them to sell everything off to another conglomerate." is the right answer here.

So, no. You're just wrong. You're arguing irrationally.

***What the heck are you even talking about... all your doing is shifting the blame and it's a pretty sad attempt at that...***

You don't understand how any of this works. Honestly. In order to stop businesses from doing anything, you need governments and agencies focused on stopping them from doing too much. Without them, Microsoft would have won ages ago.

You're arguing irrationally and ignorantly.

*** FLAT OUT Microsoft is doing this to benefit themselves, not Sony or Nintendo. This is not altruism. ***

FLAT OUT. Microsoft is being forced to do this because of the losing position they've put themselves into and this benefits Sony and Nintendo more than them. Sony and Nintendo aren't changing their market reach, Microsoft is losing theirs. Plain and simple.

ApocalypseShadow69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Hold your ground ein. Chris is not understanding that Microsoft is trying to put themselves in a position of control. If they control the most popular franchises, they can try and dictate terms on who gets what and for how much.

It's definitely a ploy. Sony was already getting these games and profiting on their releases on PlayStation from 3rd parties. Now, Microsoft is in the position to tell others what they can get and profit off of their competitors. If they can't support themselves and grow themselves, then they want to profit off of the other two. Which is unheard of in the game industry where your competitor makes money off of your console business.

Actually, it's not unheard of when it comes to Microsoft. If you remember the Immersion lawsuit, Microsoft gave in about haptic feedback. Then, invested into Immersion with their lawsuit against Sony to profit off of the lawsuit. Even though Immersion tried to squirm out of paying Microsoft, they later made Microsoft richer off of Sony.

And I'm right there with you. Sony and Nintendo should deny Microsoft access to their consoles. And let things fall where they may. If Microsoft wants to buy up the industry, then make them pay for it. If jobs are lost, it will be Microsoft's fault, Kotick and every greedy bum involved in selling those developers to Microsoft.

The only way to let Microsoft know that what they did was unquestionably ridiculous, is to make them pay in the millions of dollars in losses as their platform continues to shrink. The industry can survive without Microsoft. After the industry crash, things picked up because of Nintendo. When all the other competitors dropped out the race, Nintendo and Sega thrived. The industry thrived when Sony targeted teens and young adults. When Sega dropped out, the industry continued. Microsoft leaving will not stop the industry from going. It'll be rocky, then thrive once more. Screw Microsoft. They deserve no Sony games on their platform. And they don't deserve porting their games to others after being shady and spending billions to control the most popular franchises.

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Gamer7569d ago

Sony could put some of their older games on Xbox like they do for PC

badz14969d ago

Who wrote this piece of crap? Phil Spencer?

Tedakin68d ago

Okay. In the future Microsoft can stop putting Call of Duty on PS and kill the brand. Jim Ryan's words, not mine :)

shinoff218368d ago

Maybe not in the end. It'd all go back up. If ms got to a point where everything released on ps it would sell more consoles, more games. Gotta buy these games on something. Alot of people would migrate.

Markdn68d ago

Great comment I couldn't have said it more perfect myself, And lik we should agree with the comments on a clearly xbox pushing biased website. That deletes. Comments it doesn't agree with loooool. Poor journalism at its peak with this article. Maybe he missed the /S at the end of it lol

1Victor68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

First of all I’m not going to waste my time on this article just the headline sound like a post from Orchard latest account 45 minutes ago with a January 1 birthday.
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Now to answer the article headline, since when have the gaming industry followed the company in last place except for copying positive change to the community.
Sony is making money, sold 52m consoles,PSN is making money without day 1 exclusivity, PlayStation community/PC BUY GAMES. Xbox is bleeding money since day 1 but hey Microsoft can buy Sony if they want they got the money and can keep putting trucks loads of money in the hole called Xbox forever 🤦🏿
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Andrew33668d ago

Hi fi Rush and Grounded both reviewed well. Also Sea of Thieves has come a long way since its release so don't pretend like they are some trash games that nobody wants.

GhostScholar68d ago

That is outlandish 🤣 I hate to rub the ponies in here the wrong way but sea of thieves is a huge success and hardly failing. Whether you are interested in it or not is fine, but pentiment, Hi fi rush, sea of thieves, and grounded are all very good games. are they cinematic 3rd person crying simulators like most Sony first party? No, but good none the less

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MaximusPrime_69d ago

Unlike Microsoft, Sony aren't struggling, so no need to go multiplat

purple10169d ago

Sony: “helldivers doing well, better hire more and expand that team”

Microsoft: “Damn this quarters financials are a disaster, quick get rid of another 100 people at blizzard, that’ll fix it”

BlackCountryBob68d ago

But the weird thing is, Disaster financials for Microsoft was “only” making $146 billion profit in 2023.

Moe-Gunz68d ago

@Purple I agree with your statement. However, just distinguish Xbox from MS as a whole. Microsoft is doing well. Xbox division is not.

InUrFoxHole69d ago

Oh god. Dude you are delusional 😂 🤣 🙄

Christopher69d ago

Care to explain how they are delusional rather than emoji your way out of a real argument?

InUrFoxHole69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

@Chris
Sure sweetie. Sony is already multiplat. Case closed. Move along now. Here's an emoji for the road ... ✌️

Christopher69d ago

***Sony is already multiplat. Case closed.***

I mean, if you want to equate a handful of Sony games versus every Xbox game going same day and release on PC and now, curated games similar to Sony, going to competing consoles, sure.

Thank you for at least explaining your argument.

InUrFoxHole68d ago

@Chris
This is the way. Sony fans need to accept this now. Day and date will be the standard. I don't get the push back from some gamers. As consumers I see nothing wrong with having the ability to play all games

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Tedakin68d ago

You haven't been following the news very closely have you?

Zeref68d ago

Have you been living under a rock? Sony is selling hardware. But they are struggling with their profit margins. Their games are too expensive and aren't profitable enough.

This is straight from their CEO's mouth.

Also with MS owning ABK. If anyone is struggling between the two. It's Sony lol

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Crows9068d ago

It doesn't cost them too much when they make it all back and lots more. That makes no sense.

But when MS just keeps on giving handouts to Xbox with no returns yeah....eventually daddy has to open the big wallet to get Xbox something shiny...

neomahi68d ago

That's all that needs to be said, really

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Zeref67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Their own investors disagree.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/0...

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RaidenBlack69d ago

If you really gotta bring some exclusive PS love to Xbox,
Other than maybe some older GaaS (remember Destruction AllStars?) or maybe FF7 Remake Intergrade (if SE insists) and SpiderMan 1(if Marvel insists)? ... I dont think any other PS title is jumping to Xbox anytime soon.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto1d 12h ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger881d 6h ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb198117h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein16h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 10h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle21h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188118h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio18h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7713h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga20h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv726h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218319h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga18h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan14h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit7h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2313h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7213h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple10123h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos22h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-12h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac22h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10121h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic19h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead12h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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An Update on This Year’s BlizzCon and Blizzard’s 2024 Live Events

Blizzard writes: "After careful consideration over the last year, we at Blizzard have made the decision not to hold BlizzCon in 2024. This decision was not made lightly as BlizzCon remains a very special event for all of us, and we know many of you look forward to it. While we’re approaching this year differently and as we have explored different event formats in the past, rest assured that we are just as excited as ever to bring BlizzCon back in future years."

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PRIMORDUS1d 7h ago

How about you not hold Blizzcon anymore period. You fucking POS company. I really hope Blizzard would just die.