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Final Fantasy 16 Developer Dreams Of A Console-Free Future Within 10 Years

Naoki Yoshida predicts one more generation of console wars before the ultimate dominance of cloud gaming.

banger88541d ago

F*** cloud gaming and f*** streaming! If that's the future of gaming, I'll play nothing but retro games in the future.

Barlos540d ago

My sentiments exactly 👍

Zenzuu540d ago

I like the way this man thinks.

Profchaos539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

Couldn't reply to you below however out of all the extensive games list you've listed there I probably only enjoyed 5 of them at most the rest were not my thing 5 games in 3 years is a low number if you ask me. Also there's a difference between hate and disappointment I do t hate the games or this gen I'm disappointed by it I'm not picking up new games every 3 mo Tha like previous generations everything is always delayed broken or just trend chasing or I get the feeling I've played this before so I'm not shelling out 125 aud dollars for a sequel that doesn't add all that much to the table

Also upcoming games that list I'll pass I enjoyed sm1/2 but I don't want a 3 or wolverine which seems to have the same gameplay attached. All those blade games are not my thing no the only upcoming games I'm excited for us GTA vi but not the online the actual game

--Onilink--539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

Its really more of a when rather than and if to be honest.

It happened to every single other kind of entertainment medium, it will happen to gaming eventually too (that said, its not like there aren’t physical or digital purchases for music and video, they just arent as prevalent)

Also, he is saying 1 more generation.. thats still easily 10-12 more years… we cant even properly predict what will happen 1-2 years in advance, much less 10+ years ahead, it doesnt really make sense to judge based on what cloud gaming currently is

shinoff2183539d ago

Idk about that. When companies see millions just aren't with all that , they may change their tune. Most of us don't want the cloud, don't want anything to do with streaming.

jukins539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

It mat uave happened but ppl are slowly realizing that maybe all digital isnt as good as it seems. Needing to sub to a bunch of different services, most which are losing 100s of millions if not billions. And especially foe cloud gaming i cant see the infrastructure getting good enough and widespread enough to cover the same amount of gamers. But at the same time companies wont need as many customers if they sonr have to spend billions every so odten developinf and manufacturing hardware

Profchaos539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

Completely agree I've still got my PS1, n64 with ever drive, PS2, PS3, 360 oh and GB GBC, GBA, PSP and Vita and I've recently purchased a nes and a line doubler retrotink 2x the only console I'm missing is the mega drive that I have nostalgia for.

Using flash carts I can pretty much get decades of gaming conveniently on the original hardware nothing beats that in my view emulation is fine just doesn't feel right in many cases for me.

This ps5 gen has been a huge bust for me my most wanted games are years away and so many have been just disappointing or broken so I'm feeling a little burnt by the ps5 generation

Zenzuu539d ago

You didn't enjoy Demon Souls, Returnal, Astro's Playroom, Horizon Forbidden West, Spider Man, Ratchet & Clank, Gran Turismo 7, God of War Ragnarok or the likes of Final Fantasy VII Remake, Resident Evil Village, Tetris Effect, Persona 5 Royal, Dead Space?!!

You're not looking forward to Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Silent Hill 2, Persona 3, Death Stranding 2, Marvel's Wolverine, Stellar Blade, Phantom Blade 0, Rise of the Ronin at all?!!

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-Foxtrot541d ago

He dreams of a consoleless future and wants everything to be cloud gaming?

Ew...no...just no

blackblades540d ago

Yeah that's a no but sadly it might happen but it'll be after we dead and gone when that happens.

Zeref540d ago

I see yall play consoles more than games lol

RedDevils539d ago

Say someone who on here 24/7, why are you not playing the xcloud?

XiNatsuDragnel539d ago

Nii San you're embarrassing yourself for real because we are gamers not cheerleaders.

Zeref539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

@XiNatsuDragneel

Doesnt seem like it when you got people saying they'll quit gaming when there's eventually gonna be a new way to play games lol.

Seems like yall are more fans of the consoles than the actual games. Which explains a lot.

XiNatsuDragnel537d ago

@Zeref

Sigh Nii San when digital only happens I'm getting a new hobby and go on new quests, So nii San you'll stick around the cloud console Era?

Zeref537d ago (Edited 537d ago )

@XiNatsuDragneel

Why would I quit? Even in the unlikely s scenario that the industry goes cloud only. By that time most people will likely have decent internet. If the experience is indistinguishable from traditional gaming. (I hear NVIDIA is extremely close already)
I don't see any valid reason to not play games anymore. They're still videogames.

It doesn't matter how I access them. Obviously I prefer consoles. But if that goes away, which I think they will eventually. I'll just adapt.
The only thing that will make me quit gaming is if all videogames suddenly suck. Which is impossible lol

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M3talDiamond540d ago

Hell NO! Gamers dont be brainwashed by this never give up your game ownership thats what the industry wants and some people dont see the dangers of this. Don Mattrick spearheaded this shit and Phil is doing this slowly without anyone noticing

Zeref540d ago

Where does Sony fall into this conspiracy? They're going the exact same way as Xbox last time I checked. Xbox is just ahead of them.

shinoff2183539d ago

The issue at hand is ms brought this bs over to consoles. Ms has been the one to push this yearafter year , sonys tagging along as not to be left behind. Look how many more physical games come out to ps and Nintendo owners as proof. Ms doesn't want to do physical games. Sony probably has double the physical games out compared to what's available on xbox. Whether small publishers or big publishers physical still hitting on ps. Don't give me that bs , o digital is 80 percent of game sales bs either. Subtract mobile gaming and come back with real numbers that apply to console games

Zeref539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

@shinoff2183

No they weren't the first. Sony was first with the whole cloud streaming idea. They just sucked at it.

So how is it Microsoft's fault that they built a better system? 😂

Zeref539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

@shinoff2183

"Zeref even if Sony was first Sony still stays pretty true to physical. Again unlike ms who has went all in on digital and hard-core on the streaming."

Oww Microsoft is pushing digital?
Didn't Sony also release their own all digital console? If they were so into physical why release a digital console at all?
And Isn't it Sony that doesn't even allow you to buy digital Playstation games from 3rd party stores?

Lol you're reaching my guy. Trying to put this all on Microsoft for whatever reason. They are both going digital and multiplatform. Xbox is just doing it better and more consumer friendly right now.

TheEroica539d ago

Sony fans are completely delusional 😂but it's fun to watch.

TheEroica539d ago

I'm guessing you've never had a steam account?

M3talDiamond539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

The problem isnt digital only future its a streaming (rental only future)

shinoff2183539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

Naw I have a steam account. I use the same name for everything. No need to hide behind different names like some users here.

Thing is pc and console , completly different. I also only play on pc what can't be played on console. Last time I used my steam account I play atom rpg(dope ass game by the way) then seen a few months later it released on console. I did play encased but I was waiting for better controller support cause I hate keyboard and mouse setup. Anyway yea pc and console are two different landscapes.

There's room for digital and physical but ms wants physical gone you can tell by their actions and their large minimum print runs.

Zeref even if Sony was first Sony still stays pretty true to physical. Again unlike ms who has went all in on digital and hard-core on the streaming. As I stated evidenced by the fact that there's probably double the amount of physical games available on ps compared to xbox.

Terry_B540d ago

Don't support this guy. Didnt buy FF16..never will.

M3talDiamond540d ago (Edited 540d ago )

I bought FF16 and I loved it but I dont feel the same now it feels bitter sweet after seeing what Naoki Yoshida wants for the future of gaming

NotoriousWhiz540d ago

It's okay to buy stuff from people you don't share an opinion with.

Terry_B540d ago

Normally I agree to that. But in this case, ..nope since the guy might have some influence.

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Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 devs praise games like Space Marine 2 for "lowering the barrier"

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 developers discuss the huge success of Space Marine 2 and its effect on the series as a whole.

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Jingsing4d ago

How about an official level editor for Boltgun?

jznrpg2d ago

I’ll get Space Marine 2 when it’s cheaper. I don’t pay more than half price for short games.

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Glen Schofield: Dead Space Wouldn’t Be Greenlit Today—Publishers Are Afraid to Take Risks

Sector sat down with Glen Schofield—creator of Dead Space and The Callisto Protocol—during the Game Developers Session (GDS) in Prague to discuss the evolution of the game industry, the current challenges of AAA development, and why it's become so hard to get original ideas off the ground in today’s risk-averse environment.

1nsomniac5d ago

It’s easy enough to say that, but why? It feels weird to me when developers say this but common sense would tell you everything about the idea itself should work.

The idea of the concept seems like a winner at whichever angle you look at it so why would publishers not greenlight it?

… it’s almost as if the majority of publishers are massively incompetent at their jobs. But there’s no surprise to anyone there.

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WILD HEARTS S Q&A - 'Switch 2 Is Closer to the Series S Than PS4'

Wccftech interviewed Koei Tecmo about their upcoming game WILD HEARTS S, gathering their first thoughts on the Nintendo Switch 2 console.

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Christopher7d ago

This new tech, in 2025, is more comparable to 2020 tech than 2013 tech.

*tip toes over that bar*

Also, why are all the comparisons to PS4 and not Xbox One?

Neonridr7d ago

PS4 is more powerful than the XB1, S2 is more powerful than both, so why not use the higher of the two?

Christopher7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Probably because people who owned an XBO and not a PS4 don't really know what it means. The assumption is that everyone is as knowledgeable as journalists or gaming news junkies. Gaming is mainstream, that means that mass majority of people don't know these specifics, only online talking points.

And the PS4 and XBO are the closest in power systems we've ever had, so this 'more powerful' is so small, it really isn't the big talking point people think it is.

RaidenBlack5d ago

I'd rather add, Xbox One X can be used as a good metric to gauge if a said system is more powerful than last gen.

VariantAEC5d ago

It's pretty clear that Switch 2 isn't more powerful than PS4 Pro. Is the base model PS4 being beaten? Well, Switch 2 is hardly ever actually being compared to the base model PS4, but seeing as how it's yet to outperform PS4 Pro in basically any other way than loading data into RAM in video comparisons. I have to assume the individual developer being interviewed has very little experience with PS4 and Xbox One.

OtterX6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Which is great for a handheld/hybrid! Some people still stick to Digital Foundry's PS4 comparison comment as gospel, back when they were just watching trailers and hadn't even had their hands on it yet.

With that said, this interview doesn't go into very much depth on this. I'd like to see more analysis, but so far I'm really impressed with the performance since I got mine on Friday. Truth be told, having a PS4 Pro level handheld is enough for me. Anything beyond is icing. I'm not looking to replace my PS5 or PC.

VariantAEC5d ago

In this case Digital Foundry is right. They didn't adequately explain or sound remotely confident when showing Switch 2's "visual" benefits in that HogLeg comparison was related to loading. Yes, sometimes two massive world segments can be connected by a smaller individual loading zone like how Jak 2 handled open world zones on PS2. There is a small room that in itself is it's own discrete loading zone that you wait inside as the next massive portion of the map loads in. Very common when going from Haven City to any part outside of the city owlr when descending into the sewers or entering the city from the outside or leaving the sewers. Anyway, the HogLeg skybridge loading zone is more detailed because Switch 2 could load in more varied textures. Models load pretty fast. It's probable that the decimated models that appear in the Switch 2 version were supposed to be visible on Xbox One and PS4 in that scene, which might be why they exist on Switch 2. Unfortunately, the same video showcased above shows PS4 Pro is basically ahead of Switch 2 in all other ways imaginable. Higher rendering resolutions with a sharper cleaner image, better effects quality, and a better distance all favor PS4 Pro. Both the Pro and Switch 2 seem to have a pretty solid 30FPS performance level.

MDTunkown6d ago

For how thin switch 2 is it’s impressive especially when it’s stronger than steam deck and cost less

Christopher6d ago

Steam Deck is cheaper at $399. Switch 2 also uses cheaper materials. See joycon drift still being an issue. You'll also save a ton more money on software alone with the Steam Deck.

Honestly, if the Steam Deck was released today, it likely would at least match the Switch 2 in areas where it outperforms the Steam Deck but still have more advantages. Main thing holding back the Deck is the cores and resolution, because it still has the better CPU and GPU otherwise.

Neonridr5d ago

@Christopher - I own one, no stick drift. My OG joycons never had drift either.

Steam Deck relies on FSR which is still inferior to DLSS. Not to mention that the S2 can push double the GPU performance in docked mode. Deck has more memory, which is nice.

I have both, but my S2 will be getting the lion-share of playtime in the near future. That being said, I can still appreciate being able to play my steam games on the go.

FinalFantasyFanatic5d ago

For me, the game sales/prices and flexibility of the Steam deck outweigh the cost of the system itself, but I'll probably get a Switch 2 anyway.

OMNlPOTENT6d ago

And the ps5 was comparable to a PC that could be built over 5 years before it came out lol, how do you think consoles stay affordable?

Christopher6d ago

You're actually proving my point even more.

badz1495d ago

@omnipotent

PS5 comparable to a PC built OVER 5 years before it came out? let's see...

the best mainstream PC combo back in 2015/2016 would be the i7 6700K ($350) + GTX 1080 ($600). Sorry, but that setup is never going to outperform the base PS5 in games, especially modern ones.

you done lying yet or still want to continue lying so your precious Switch 2 doesn't get hurt by facts anymore?

CosmicTurtle6d ago

It’s a tech article speaking about specs people who care about this will know. I did not own an XB1 but know it’s at a similar tech level as PS4. PS4 has a far greater sales footprint, it makes sense to use it.

ABizzel15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Technologically it’s closer to the Series S….. Raster-wise it’s closer to a base PS4 which has been the point.

Why Switch 2 is better:
The much better CPU allows for higher FPS than the last gen Jaguar CPUs could ever produce.
The 12GB of RAM prevents the system from being bottlenecked in most modern games (even SS fails here)
The storage while not NVMe Gen4 speeds, is significantly faster than the HDD in last gen
It’s a RTX 3000 hybrid, and DLSS is a better upscaling solutions than all other consoles even PSSR currently, and significantly better than checkerboard rending.

This is where the PS4 & PS4 Pro comparisons come into play. Natively it can’t compete with the PS4 Pro, and really closer to the base PS4, but due to the better CPU, more RAM, faster storage, and DLSS it can upscale resolution, image quality, and performance to get close, match, or certain cases exceed the PS4 Pro, and rivals the Series S.

DLSS is really the saving force behind Switch 2 getting current gen ports to acceptable resolution quality, and NVIDIA and Nintendo did it at 10w, so kudos to them, because many of the AAA 3rd party games are and will continue to be native 540p - 720p upscaled through DLSS.

Also this game would benefit from DLSS.

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Sonyslave36d ago

I notice it always ps4 or ps4 pro but never xbox one x which is more powetful then the ps4 pro.

MDTunkown6d ago

And it’s also in someways stronger than series S. Xbox one x is a special console that was never fully utilised and has 1,5 times more teraflops than series s.

badz1495d ago (Edited 5d ago )

but the Bulldozer CPU is much weaker and inefficient compared to Zen2 used in the Series S

Neonridr5d ago

the CPU's were those crappy Jaguar based chipsets though.

jznrpg5d ago

Because most people don’t care about Xbox

repsahj6d ago

This is an ugly port, they should improve it more instead of releasing it early.

gold_drake5d ago

sooo ...

what this is telling us, is that it comes down to the game and the devs optimization.

VariantAEC5d ago

There are already several games on Switch 2 coming up short in side-by-side comparisons. Cyberpunk 2077, Fortnite, and HogLeg are just the first examples with the first game in this list only having better image quality due to DLSS and slightly more stable performance due to that lower resolution than last gen systems enabled by DLSS, but having simplified models at mid distances and fewer NPCs roaming around than on PS4 or Xbox One.