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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972126d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus126d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim125d ago (Edited 125d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda125d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B124d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125125d ago (Edited 125d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981124d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot124d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda124d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot124d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy124d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay124d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12126d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay124d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB125d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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Final Fantasy XVI’s Success Proves FFXIII Never Deserved the Hate

The black sheep of modern Final Fantasy shares the most DNA with 'Final Fantasy XVI’s successful design choices.

-Foxtrot295d ago

Huh? XIII was just terrible

Even something singular like characters in XVI are better

luckytrouble295d ago

Even as someone that actually kind of likes 13, probably helped by the fact I expected to absolutely hate it, man it could not be more different from 16. There isn't a single element I can more than loosely correlate between the two titles.

banger88295d ago

The main difference for me is the characters. I love the characters in FFXVI, I HATED the characters in FFXIII with a passion. F****** hated them. Every. Single. One.

RpgSama295d ago

100000%

Every single character sucked.

babadivad295d ago

I liked Lightning, didn't mind Zhaz and Vanille. I HATED that kid. I don't even remember his name. I never bothered touching his stats to upgrade him. I hated him.

Flawlessmic295d ago

I really dont get this comparison at all, outside of them being linear that's where the comparison starts and ends for me really.

Ff13 is a weird one for me, it's actually one of the only mainline ff games I havent finished and didn't even bother with the sequels.

I don't remember even hating it at the time, like i thought it was ok, just yea never got into it like I normally do with a ff game.

Ff13 isn't on the same level as 16 not even close though.

Even if you hated 16s combat the story, world and characters are so fantastic you will push through just to see the story's end

SegaSaturn669295d ago

FF13: Mash X button - win battle. Walk thru straight corridor, repeat.

Harkins1721295d ago

I remember 13 having some thinking involved and not just mashing X.

jwillj2k4295d ago

The FF 16 demo was similar in that aspect. “Smash square to win” it’s why I didn’t buy the full game.

MrBaskerville295d ago

I wouldn't go that far, battle system does have it's moments. But maybe mainly in later boss fights. Start of game is pretty braindead though.

goldwyncq295d ago

XIII also has setting up paradigms in advance and switching to the most appropriate one during battles, but of course people who haven't played it think spamming Auto-battle is the only thing you ever do in combat.

MrBaskerville295d ago (Edited 295d ago )

@goldwyncq
While the paradigm system was cool, I do think it takes long before it amounts to more than spamming auto battle. And while I remember a great deal of good fights, there's also an awful lot of auto-battle spam fights in between which is easy to forget because of the more memorable moments.

Same might be said about older FF games, but I still think they had a little morr flavour in basic fights. XIII has the issue that you can choose between a couple of actions, but they all feel like they amount to the same outcome.

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shinoff2183295d ago

Flawless
Even if you hated 16s combat the story, world and characters are so fantastic you will push through just to see the story's end

Me in a nutshell

andy85295d ago (Edited 295d ago )

@jwillj2k4 it doesn't work in the full game though, have to remember that's the very start of the game and all final fantasies are the same. If you do that throughout it'll take 10x longer to finish the game, the combos and eikon abilities are what's used

jwillj2k4295d ago

I’m sure there’s more you can do. My issue is that unlike FF7R there’s no reason TO do it. In 7R the game creates a feeling of making you want to do other moves since you’ll die if you just spam. In 16 winning just takes longer which makes it feel broken.

Hofstaderman295d ago

No, it does deserve the hate. This game left with such a hollow feeling after I first booted it up. The ONLY Final Fantasy game I have never replayed.

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