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Activision CEO says Amazon Luna has the most game streaming customers

Activision-Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick believes Amazon Luna is the largest cloud gaming service in the world by virtue of 200m Amazon Prime subscribers.

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VenomUK358d ago (Edited 358d ago )

The person who wrote this article Derek Strickland is a complete insult to the craft of journalism because he has blindly copied a PR statement from Activision's CEO who obviously has a horse in the race, and provided no real context - nor did he do any FACT-CHECKING.

Strickland wrote: "Since Prime has over 200 million subscribers as of 2022, it could be technically correct to say Luna is the largest cloud gaming provider by virtue of its convertible Prime subscriber base."

Amazon Prime may well have 200 million subscribers but it is dishonest to assume they all use the Amazon Luna cloud gaming service because clearly Prime video streaming is the core feature that people use and it's readily available on multiple hardware devices via an app. Besides all that Luna is not even available in all countries that have Prime! It's only available in the US, UK, Canada and Germany.

Shit articles like Dereck Strickland's should be taken down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

rippermcrip358d ago

Maybe they updated the article, but the article most certainly does provide a lot of context and explains what you said and more.

343_Guilty_Spark358d ago (Edited 358d ago )

Well the CMA uses all GamePass and Gold subscriptions for determining how many cloud gaming customers Xbox has even if only 1-10% actually even use Xcloud.

VenomUK358d ago

@rippermcrip. The original story has since been updated. The author said he deleted a tweet for the story. He says: "Hey all, I decided to delete the Luna tweet (should have done it earlier!) because not all Amazon Prime subscribers have access to Luna. Turns out there's tons of countries and regions where Luna is not available. Apologies for the mix-up."
https://twitter.com/DeekeTw...

The article was updated and badly. Instead of correcting the incorrect information, the incorrect information was left in and then the correct information was added. The unchallenged claim is "Since Prime has over 200 million subscribers as of 2022, it could be technically correct to say Luna is the largest cloud gaming provider by virtue of its convertible Prime subscriber base."

It's only further down the article that you get the section that begins "More context is needed, though. Luna is not available in all countries, so it's not proper to say all Prime subscribers are also Luna users..."This was added later.

The correct way to fix the story is add context to the incorrect claim made by TweakTown.

closed_account358d ago

Lol, I'm a Prime subscriber and didn't even know about Luna. I mean, I've heard the name, but never looked into it. I had no idea it was included w Prime membership.

*checks* can't use it in my country

How many people actually know it's included w their Prime and use the service? I'm guessing many others don't even know it exists, despite being subscribed to Prime.

EvertonFC357d ago

Didn't even know Amazon Luna was a thing lol, can't say I've ever seen it on my prime.

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RpgSama358d ago

Amazon is not the one trying to buy Activision, so the regulators do not care, plus, having 200 million Amazon Prime Subscribers and saying that equates to your cloud gaming service user base is very reaching.

At this point you can say Netflix which is starting to release crap games is the biggest of them all.

EvertonFC357d ago (Edited 357d ago )

The new valiants heart wasn't crap on Netflix, ONLY game I've ever played on a mobile though.

Vits358d ago

Well, technically speaking Amazon's Luna has the potential to be the largest streaming service. But I doubt it is right now, given the limited availability.

ChronoJoe357d ago

It's problem is that it doesn't have much leverage over the industries games. So it will be hard for amazon to gain a foothold without making many acquisitions. They need better content, a similar problem to Microsoft but much more severe in Amazon's case, they're a long way off.

porkChop358d ago

That's technically true but Amazon doesn't even advertise Luna. No one knows it exists.

Double_O_Revan357d ago

I recently saw a banner ad on the home screen of my Fire TV and thought to myself "omg I completely forgot that existed."

EvertonFC357d ago

I didn't and I've had prime for 2 years lol

ModsDoBetter358d ago

Tried it out now that it released here in the UK.
Very laggy despite a high speed fibre connection.

CrimsonWing69358d ago

I’ve ran into no lag on my end. I’m in the US though. I don’t have fiber, but my download speed is 400 mb/s.

What games were lagging for you? I’d like to see if I run into this since none of the games I played had any lag or latency issues.

ModsDoBetter358d ago

Fortnite & Resi 2.

Streaming won’t compete with fully installed games for a long time imo.

I was an early adopter of Stadia and that was pretty bad too. Like the fps wasn’t too inconsistent but the resolution would drop like a bomb so often.

CrimsonWing69358d ago (Edited 358d ago )

@olMyerslo

Interesting.

I played Control and there were 0 input lag, frame dips, stuttering, or any issues I could see. I was really impressed with it.

I literally couldn’t have told you the difference between playing a fully installed game or streaming. Then again,I don’t know your situation, like if multiple people on your network are using bandwidth, your signal strength, etc.

I didn’t know Resident Evil 2 was on there. I’ll check that out and see if I run into any issues.

343_Guilty_Spark358d ago

UK has notoriously poor Internet speeds.

ModsDoBetter358d ago (Edited 358d ago )

Does it?

That’s news to me as the UK is currently sitting 34th out of 220 countries surveyed for average country-wide internet speeds in 2022.

“Notoriously poor” would imply this is something talked about but I have never heard any complaints relating to our speeds compared with other countries.

My current speed is 1Gbps, for example.

CantThinkOfAUsername357d ago

Speed isn't the metric that matters in data streaming. Latency, Jitter and Packet Loss are. Once you meet the minimum bandwidth ('speed') requirements, the others become the playing factors (no pun intended).

There's also server-side ('cloud') issues that would provide a terrible user experience.

1nsomniac358d ago

The stupid levels are off the scale here..

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Square Enix Declares $140m Loss Amid Game Pipeline Shakeup

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth publisher Square Enix has declared a $140m loss based on a shakeup of its internal development pipeline.

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Furesis3h ago

What are they doing over there? Sounds like they canceled something big. I read a rumor a while back about ff9 remake . Here "Final Fantasy IX has gone through a very challenging development, the game is still in progress but may undergo changes drastic enough that we won't hear about it for a couple of years."
This could be one of the reasons if the rumor is true. That was Silknight i don't know how credible he is but it's something and it would make sense.

-Foxtrot2h ago

I hope IX is still on the cards

Just a straight up remake which they expand a little bit nothing over ambitious

If IX dosent happen then VI and VIII will never be thought of.

TiredGamer1h ago

What are they doing? Sales are falling and the costs are out of control. Big releases need to be absolute sales home runs now, and Final Fantasy sales have stagnated.

Now we know why Square didn’t fall over themselves to remake the original FF7 all these years ago. It certainly wasn’t a license to print money, at least not with what the expectations were. Each of these full on remakes drains an enormous amount of company resources for a razor thin profit margin.

TwoPicklesGood48m ago

Breaking the game up into multiple parts was a mistake IMO.

shadowT3h ago

Do not miss Final Fantasy 16. Great game!

raWfodog2h ago

I'm waiting for them to release the complete edition bundle, but it's definitely on my list.

PhillyDonJawn2h ago

Wth is going on with the gaming industry?

mandf1h ago

Corporate investors taking everything

TiredGamer56m ago

Not rocket science. Compare sales numbers, development cycles, and budgets to the previous gens. We are all collectively burning up the industry from the inside out. Expectations are ludicrously high now for every release and sales are dropping for even the most prestigious of series.

We used to be satisfied paying $50-60 for a game that took 1/100th the budget and staff to make. Now gamers feel cheated if they have to pay the same for a game that took 100x the budget. We may be reaching the end of the line for this model of gaming.

TiredGamer1h ago

The industry implosion is continuing. Sky high budgets, prolonged development windows, stagnant sales numbers, and falling currency values (inflation) are wreaking havoc on the legacy industry. AAA games will slowly become the rarity.

CS71h ago

Sad. Rebirth was one of my favorite games in a long time. Should have sold more.

CrimsonWing6947m ago

Oh I’m with you. What’s worse is they can say, “Well we tried to make this amazing game and spend all this money on, but not enough people showed an interest. So no more of these since we can’t take a hit like that.”

The industry is going to take a dramatic shift. Mark my words on this.

rpvenom0m ago(Edited 0m ago)

I think there is quite a large portion of individuals like myself who held out on buying it on PS5 because I can get it on PC eventually. To be able to mod the game and also have custom graphical settings to my liking

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar2h ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn1h ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

anast2h ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

1h ago
Lightning771h ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

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7Xier6m ago(Edited 5m ago)

If someone posted this obvious troll comment about Sony, they would have been marked inappropriate and restricted.

But not anast because he is posting about Xbox and knows the site mods personally.

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darthv721h ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes1h ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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F1 Arcade Opens In Boston

This reminds me of Gameworks and sounds really fun. F1 Arcade (F1Arcade.com/us/), the world’s first premium F1 entertainment experience, today opened its first US location in Boston Seaport.

DefenderOfDoom21h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Cool , only a 20 minute ride for me. I am going to check it out . I hope they have a lot of retro Arcade cabinets. Now that Mary Jane is legal in Massachusetts it would been awesome if they served Edibles at the bar also. I once played music and promoted a EA Madden tournament at a nightclub in Greater Boston in 2003 . Only problem is hardly anybody drank booze because between games most of the crowd would just go out to there car and smoke weed . So it would be awesome if they got a weed license to at least serve Edibles.