SlapStic.com editor Ryan Rigney explains why he recently sold his Wii, and why he believes all hardcore gamers are cheating themselves if they don't follow suit.
If I were you I'd wait until Nintendo start playing the "We can't make enough Wiis to meet demand!" card,that way you can make an easy profit off ebay/craigslist. I expect them to resume their shenanigans sometime in February,so hold on just a little longer
In the article I specifically mention that the Wii is selling on Amazon for about $320. That's a $70 profit if you bought yours at retail.
The console that used to get the least playtime was my PS3, but it is now the Wii. PS3 finally got a decent game library and the Wii, well it has a craptacular game library except for Zack and Wiki, Metal Slug Anthology....
Agreed... I abandoned wii long ago and just sold my Wii this xmas to a buddy of mine... hope he doesn't come knocking on my door anytime soon... Wii is dead for hardcore gamers but I used to use it at parties to get everyone to do some casual gaming... and it worked great. But now I got Rockband, singstar and LBP for ps3, which rocks in parties, and my Wii sat for a long while collecting dust.
I just don't like it when people tell me the Wii IS aimed towards gamers like me! Really? Cause if it WAS targeted at gamers like me, then I WOULD be interested in it! Even my hardcore Nintendo friends are backing away from the Wii. They are now looking towards PS3 and 360 for their gaming fix. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this because the Wii will still sell outrageously to "non-gamers" for lack of a better term. And yes, that's the main audience that Nintendo is targeting with the Wii.
I don't need people telling me what or what not to buy or sell. If your happy with the wii then play it if not then sell it. What is this guy? A damn salesman?! The wii has a few decent games coming out soon so I will check them out and pass judgement on them myself unlike many on here who will never play them but just call them crap. @drake - nintendo never played that card - the popularity of the wii took them by suprise and it takes time to buy new factories and set them up. Thats why it took a while to increase production. But last april tehy increased production from 1.6 million a month to 2.4 million a month to meet demand and will likely increase this again to 3.2 million a month next april. Good enough?
This is what will happen if Nintendo's crappy shovelware like WiiPlay continue to outsell the the MGS's, the GTA's, the Halo's, the Bioshocks, these games and these experiences will dissapeer. Developer's are already starting to notice that you can still sell millions of copy's of a crappy games to retards with a dev cost of $100. Me being the Hardcore RPG and FPS fan, wants those big name games, so I will continue to support the consoles that offer me those experiences,so devs can still see there is an actual "Gamer" fan base, and not a fan base that consists of my grandma her friends, and my 6 year old sister.
Are you saying there will be no MGS5, GTA5, Zelda, FF14? That is just an irrational fear bourne out of jealousy of the wii's success. One minute 3rd parties aren't supporting hte wii, the next there going to cancel all their projects and put shvelware on the wii. Which is it? And have you even looked at the wii's lineup next year before bashing it? It is far from just shovelware.
Yeah for now. It's obivous the the Dev Team behind WiiPlay has made way more profit the even GTA. With having a smaller team and a lower dev cost there's more of the pie to go around to everyone. How long until other third party dev's catch on and actually make good games for the wii. As soon as CoD or Madden is actually good on the Wii you'll see them starting to abandoned the other two consoles, it's just smart busniess, bigger install base, lower dev cost= bigger profits.
CoD games will still be made. But instead they may have worse graphics with better controls. When the xbox 720, wii HD and ps4 all release in 2011/2012 then maybe we will get the best of both worlds.
I was talking to a co-worker who's wife wanted a Wii and he thought this was the perfect time to get her into videogames. We started pricing it out, The Wii, extra controller, charge kit, old school controllers for old Nintendo games and we realized that it came out to the same price as a PS3. I tried to convince him that he should go that route, (or even the 360) to take advantage of his new hi-def TV but he was adamant that his wife wouldn't play them if he did. That's when the light bulb went on in my head and I realized, I don't play may Wii. It's been untouched for over a year. I kept holding out hope for a great game that I'd just have to play - but I don't have time to play all the great games on my PS3 right now as it is. I sold him mine my Wii before Christmas with everything for $400. I hope he gets more use out of it then I did.
On ebay, Wiis are going for over 350(for just the console), I'm thinking about selling my Wii but I'm waiting for the mega drought before I do (yes, I really do have a Wii, despite my hatred for Nintendo this generation)
Yes selling more console in a month than Sony sales in 6 is all off of fake demand for the console..You are the perfet example of a SOnyn sheep. Your ingnorance knows no bounds. Even when reality proves you wrong in true moronic fashion you keep on saying the same thing over and over again... Sadly you are probably so inbred you actually feel you have a valid point. However anyone with even a 10th of their brain working can figure out you do not become the best of all time in sales by holding back shipments. Than again any 3rd grader could have figured it out after 2 years.. No its only single digit IQ Sony fans that seem to be so ignorant they cant even grasp something so simple.
The Wii is a piece of crap that it's hurting the core market. Thanks to Nintendo now we have a half-assed DQIX for DS... Who that **** plays a 30 hour jrpg on a freaking portable for gods sake! Only japanese do this kind of ****. This game deserves to be on consoles but not on the Wii but on X360/PS3. And what about Monster Hunter 3? Another game that going to be another half-assed quick buck using the not so innovative Wii aspects... So sad. The Wii's good to play **** like Wii-fit and other crappy games that we don't care.
I don't think there was a reason to buy a Wii in the first place.
I never boarded the ship. I got my Xbox 360 in November of 2006 and my PS3 in December of the same year. I've never had a Wii, but 2 of my friends who owned a Wii sold it in favour of a PS3 merely because they became bored with it. My wife has one but she rarely plays on it.
Why is it that every time someone says something you don't agree with, you automatically assume they're some Sony fanboy? How do you know he doesn't have or like the 360? Part of the reason why PS3 owners get such a bad rep like they do on this site is because people like you never stop labeling people as ignorant fanboys so easily. It IS true that companies will hold back production to increase demand. This is called BUSINESS! If you have seen reality, then please enlighten us about it, because we're more than willing to see the "REAL" figures you have. No, I don't agree with this article (he said that he didn't want ANOTHER good FPS because he had a 360, which screams ignorance right there, and the original S&P was awesome, and I didn't know they WERE making a sequel to it). I really wish they would get to releasing Earthbound on the VC already since it's going at a snails pace to get that on there when every RPG fan seems to want Nintendo to get it on there. However, even though I own a Wii and hope that Nintendo at least balances this whole thing out soon because I like the system, I'm constantly being labeled a PS3 fanboy because of some of my views against the 360. Me owning a Wii (OR a DS) gets completely ignored, like you're doing and ignoring that some 360 owners will also own a Wii. Again, why the ignorant labeling? And why is it that you got away with blasting him for what you just assumed without even proving one single point you made? ....wait, did you even HAVE a point in that diatribe besides "shut up, Sony fanboy"? (Oh, btw, I KNOW Nathan prefers the PS3, but he never said he hated the 360, and he's not the only one that gets labeled as a *PS3* fanboy way too quickly). EDIT: Nevermind. I just looked at some of your other comments you made on this article. That's really all you have: Calling people Sony fanboys automatically as if it's ONLY Sony people that ever trash a system. All of this while insulting EVERYONE who you have any sort of disagreement with. Kind of ridiculous that we HAVE to agree with you on EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING or else we're Sony fanboys somehow. Seriously, did someone at Sony kill your dog or something?
He seems upset at something, but for the life of me I can't figure out what. Did someone say the Wii wasn't doing well in sales? I don't see it. He's upset at something Sony did, or maybe a Sony fan did to him but for the life of me, reading through the posts I can't seem to pinpoint who on earth he's responding too. The guy probably checks under his bed for Sony fans at night. I question the motives of anyone that posts online for the sole purpose of slamming a group of fans. Stick to the topics dude. When you can't make your point and just resort to insulting others, it's time to take a break.
thought it was cool playing games with my parents. everyone was really into that system. 2 months later, it's collecting dust. There no good games out there for it! Now, I have to save up for either an Xbox or a PS3.
There ARE good games for the Wii. Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Geometry Wars: Galaxies, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, World of Goo, and Toki Tori are all great. It's just that for about a year almost nothing good has been released on the system and it doesn't look like anything will in the future. "Hardcore" just isn't the direction Nintendo is headed anymore.
"Super Smash Bros. Brawl... Mario Kart Wii... Boom Blox... World of Goo, and Toki Tori are all great" "So I had only purchased ONE good game for my Wii in 2008." So the latter four are great but... not worth purchasing?
I play Mario Kart Wii at my Girlfriend's, Boom Blox was a gift, and I played World of Goo on PC. You're right about me forgetting Toki Tori in the article though.
The Wii has some good games, but come on folks. It's just targeted (obviously) towards a different crowd now. I used to have that anti-Wii feeling like a lot of people do. But it's changed. After seeing how happy it makes my niece and nephew, and a few of my other younger friends. I'm all for it. The Wii isn't the doom and gloom of the games industry as people are making it out to be. The only problem I think people should have against the Wii is the shovelware. Now there's no real excuse for that, and those developers are just trying to cash in on a quick buck. But for you "H8RdC0r3" gamers out there, just enjoy your PS3/360's in peace. There's plenty of games coming out still and there always will be. Just as long as there's developers like Epic Games, Kojima Productions, Insomniac, etc. etc. there will always be hardcore games and just as long as we keep buying them.
No, its just that MGS4, GeoW2, Res2, Fable 2, Left4Dead, GTA4, and Fallout 3,are better games for the hardcore gamer. Hence the the reference in the title to "Hardcore" gamers.
If you could rainbow all the levels in Pixel Junk Monsters you are a monster.
.... but with 2 players.. lol
I'm putting mine on Craig's List tomorrow. I used to have a 34" tv and wii looked alright, now with my new 46" the games look pixelated and rather unplayable.
I will never get on the ship to begin with.
Nah, Im saving mine for 09. Theres a few games that look pretty good, so will see how they pan out. I like something different once in a while and the wii does good in this area.
if you were gonna sell your Wii the time was last jan not now. There's a lot of interesting games coming out this year for gamers on the Wii. I can't wait for MP1 and 2(hopefully with the mooted online multiplayer)remakes, Madworld, The Conduit, Cursed Mountain, Fatal Frame 4, S&P2, Punchout!!, NMH2(how did he miss playing that one last year-great game), Deadly Creatures, New Pikmin, Red Steel2(I've heard UBi are really pushing the boat out on this one after the firsts failure and with Motion Plus and Wii Speak support for the new online element it should be great)and a host of others including a few decent RPG's and VC/Wiiware releases(I loved both WoG and Lostwinds last year). No, the Wii hasn't had the games recently and so far third party games have been basically poor(hats off to Z&W, NMH and Boomblox last year while Okami was better than the original like Resi4)but I really think it's changing this year and I'm glad to still have both my Wii and PS3. I think I'll play more PS3 than Wii again this year but it might be closer as both Ninty and third party developers do more for gamers(and to educate the new audience who won't buy party games forever and WILL want real gaming as they go on-if Nintendo don't adress this they may lose the new lot to Sony and MS and that's why there's a leaning back to better games this year. Third parties also know the huge install base of the Wii is an untapped market that needs games now it hasn't gone away so expect more and more better stuff for the little white box). So , again, I'm happy to have the Wii for both the different controls(really hope the Conduit gives us the shooter we expected with good online this time as the controls deserve better)and the change it offers. Plus some of the Wii games this year look really interesting and different(playing Spore Wars at a shop and it looks gorgeous even on Wii)from anything on offer from the HD consoles(not that I won't be playing KZ2, Uncharted2 or FF13 and GOW3 this year but still).Fatal Frame4 and Deadly Creatures especially look different to games on PS360 so the Wii might surprise a few in the coming months.Also expect a new Zelda by Xmas(announced at E3 2009 I predict along with, I pray, a new Kid Icarus(seriously Ninty how many times has this rumour failed to die-it's what people want!))and a few more heavy hitters too(Wii game for Resi from Capcom is another almost cert for 2010). Good to have around as MP3,NMH,SMG, Okami,LoZ:TP,SSBB are games I still pop in even now and this term the 3rd party devs are giving gamers much more and some of the stuff is much more inventive for Wii.Yeah, there should be more but I do think it's coming and because of the Wii's differences it has to be more inventive and thats good for gamers everywhere.
This is a good article and the reason I never got one. I always have fun when I play it, but that is because I barely ever play the thing. I know it would get old fast and the games would never last. I knew that when the thing released. I cant believe so many true gamers bought into it.
Well i still play mine the most for the exclusives alone. Plus the old gems that are hard to get. Super mario RPG was never realeased in Australia (or urope) so playing these games (and not on my computer :-s) finally after so long was almost like getting a new game. Guess if u live in the US u wouldnt really understand...its all good i dont expect u to. Ps3/360...very similar librabry...very few exclusives. BUt still good games none the less (too bad they couldnt combined their librabry and make a single system...but hey that's cRaZy talk, *cough*). I play my ps3 for fighting games mainly, like tekken, dbz, street fighter, sorry i just hate the 360 D pad. Altho for some reason i still cant SSF2 Turbo HD yet on the PSN, even tho Live has it.... But in the end the controls for the wii are flawless on a FPS (if devs are lazy and careless), and im pretty sure there are a few more coming out this year.
then i realized that it dosent have a hard drive to save any of the games so at most you could get like 5 i just bought a yobo instead and have been collecting the old school ones the yobo can use the old school N.E.S. controllers 2 i got about 50 games so far so i didnt buy a wii but heres a vid of the new WII MASCOT MUST SEE !!! THE NEW WII MASCOT
with 512mb of memory and Nes games are only 1-5 megs, you honestly that stupid you think it can only hold 5? Just another example of someone whose hate for Wii is based off of their ignorance more than anything else.
I sold my Wii within 3 months of owning one the majority of games released were just dire (not the Wii's fault I hasten to add). For me Nintendos quality control on 3rd party games just hit rock bottom. There were some good ones Zack and Wiki stand out from the ones I played.
What were you thinking nintendo! Probably, Money > Hardcore gamers
Lol come on.. hardcore gamers abandoned the wii after the gimmick became old (generally 1-2 weeks!) There is a reason why the majority of wii articles you see here are purely sales figures.. why? because it lacks quality games. Look at every single website/tv show that does their favourite games of the year.. the wii has like a total of two games on there and one is only there because of it's gimmick.
I had two consoles that gathered dust. The PS3 in the early days(sort so it gets love now) and the wii after 2 weeks (too many games, vast majority being shovelware. I did myself a favour and gave it to my nieces where it would be put to better use. Even they now want a 360. The VC was the best part of it. I have nothing against the wii, just nintendo allow and untold amount of shovel to plague the system. However that is nintendo all over. They have always gone where the money is. The wii is this deacde Rubiks,ScoobyDoo, HulaHoop, Space Hopper, Cabbage Patch Kid, power Ranger.
Another moron trying to make a case with no proof to back it up.. Lets look at the FACTS shall we there Sony fanboy? BTW nic of you to hold on to the PS3 for over a year before it got any AAA games but you sale the WIi in a week of it not.. Easy to see your bias. Anyway lets look at facts, something you Sony fans refuse to do because facts show your console is a complete POS that never gets played.Casual Wii games = Wii sports(free nobody buys it),Wii play(10.00 game that comes with a remote),Wii Musice, Wii fit. ok now for their core releases. Zelda, SPM, Mario Strikers, SMG, Metroid,Fire Emblem, Wario Land shake it, MKWii.. Now maybe its me but someone would have to be a complete moron to think they abandoned any of their real fans(brainless Sony fanboys dont count as Nintendo fans) or just a clueless moron of a Sony fan trying to convince others of his beliefs through ignorance.
Before you go on making such accusations, I hope you realize that it's not just Sony fanboys who are against the Wii.
Now is the time? I would have said the day after it was released, it is a complete gimmick with very little games to back it up
The only reason i still have my Wii is VC and a couple of future games like Dragon Warrior and Fatal Frame.
I don't like the approach that Nintendo is taking. They are no longer focusing on hardcore gamers, it's all turning to a "family thing". "Buy our console so you can play it with your FAMILY!" I am quite sure that 90% of true gamers prefer to play their games by themselves or with friends. They're not going to play Resident Evil with their paralyzed grandmother.
How old are you? you sound like you missed loads of years. Nintendo was always after families. But they failed at it times after times resulting in core gamers buying their system and little to no "casual" gamers. Nintendo always went for the friendly image why the hell do you think most of miyamoto's work comes out as a cartoon based game?
Technically, Sidar's right Nintendo always pursued the "family friendly" image. Although I do think they've gone too far with that image this gen.
eeee... Isn't this what they wanted? So how did they take it to far? i don't get it. Meh people are just scared it will take over the world and "core" games will collapse into a black hole of doom
I don't know I don't mind nintendo's approach this gen. I'm working more than playing games now yet I'm happy with 09. 08 had it's moments but as a whole the industry is only catering to the casual core. The industry's biggest problem is PC gamer invade. Lots of PC like gamers this gen. They all call them selves hardcore too. It's almost like they are trying to be cool. Sure every one is in to some thing different but if you started on the PS then yeah the Wii is not for you. Yet if you've been playing since the 2600 or atari then please realize gaming may not be for you any more. The funny thing is HD consoles are the reason why companies are shutting down not the Wii. These hardcore gamers are not buying these games... because there are not as many any more... Seriously the HD games are simply on the wrong system it seems because the gamers that give stuff a chance are still playing the Wii and loving it. I find the same guys that hate the Wii are the ones that will end up killing their own HD system of choice by not buying that HD game they keep hyping or either hype a game in away that other gamers don't really care. It's weird but the new mix of gamers remind me of metrosexuals... very confused in a strange new land some time. I know I'll loose bubbles but you guy seem to complain more than relaying what is so cool about what you are playing. Rarely do I find true fans of gaming on this site any more. Back in the day a hardcore gamer played and tried every thing. Well because he was hardcore.... That's why they loved japan. I'm glad these guys don't want a Wii... let them move on... Why keep bad attitude in your company? Besides the best is coming... Monsterhunter3 TVSC conduit motion plus Steel Battalion Coming to Wii confirmed(how hardcore is that!) Sin and punishment2 Madworld nomoreheros2 That sweet 2d ninja game by vanillaware And that giant killer game made by the guys that did final fantasy. I don't know gamers these days just jump on what ever is the next power ranger in their lives I guess. the end of 08 didn't have lots of games but hey neither did the other systems. Fall out, little big planet,... Help me out guys because I didn't see any thing I wanted to play other wise? Hell you guys got soul calibar... is any one still playing that? Probably not because you guys are not really hardcore gamers. The same will happen to Street fighter 4 watch and capcom knows this. I mean bomber man to the VC games are keeping busy and some quake wars. HD gaming will fail because they are catering to wanna be hardcore gamers. The hate on this site along shows how much fun you guys are actually having playing games.... Which isn't much.
If you really think that Nintendo is hurting the industry, I suggest that you do some research and check the facts. Nintendo is doing more positive things for the industry right now than MS or Sony... They are bringing new people into gaming across the board. I hardly play my Wii, but when the family comes around, it's an instant party machine, so it has it's role. Nothing but haters, Kill yourselves.
Bringing in new people, that's great. Leaving your long time deditacted fanbase behind and not making more than 1 game a year for them, that's a failure. It's not as though Nintnendo can't afford to put out a good amount of "hardcore" titles every year to keep their traditional fanbase happy.
"Nintendo is doing more positive things for the industry right now than MS or Sony... " In the short term yes, in the long term who knows. The casual market is a risky one and it can all backfire on Nintendo very quickly and then the industry could be in a worse state than it was before. And also what you have failed to mention is that Nintendo is also doing more Negitive things to the industry than MS or Sony. Still just because they are doing positive things, doesn't make the console any good. Nintendo forgot about us and now i won't ever go back to them ( i was preatty much a Nintendo Fanboy for years). Xbox and PlayStation is were i game now.
The Wii is a disease and if we are not careful it will infect every developer and Console maker in the industry. The desire for the almighty dollar will kill innovation and strangle all the art out of games till we all have to deal with watered down light casual games with no soul.
You to appreciate that nintendo has stuck two fingers up at the people who made them what they are. Do they owe anything? yes. Hardcore gamers will buy games no matter what. Casual gamer see his more as a luxury. Again, I am not against the wii, just the fact that amoung all the shovelware, nintendo has put a little or no effort into the hardcore sector.
I bet the 4 ppl that are crying back not only never owned a Wii but own a PS3 and are just pissed off Sony fanboys who want to try to convince anyone they can Wii is bad. You're all idiots who need to banned from the gamer zone... Not one of you can back up any of your claims with any facts. PS2 library proves anything you say about the Wii hurting the industry wrong. The Wii's game releases prove that they are not leaving anyone out. Sales prove that gamers buy more Wii games than anything else. It amusing to see die hard SOny fanboys that would buy Pong and consider it next gen if it was only on PS3 trying to slam another console because its owners actually play it.. Lets not forget there SDF girls that PS3 gets the LEAST amount of play time.
@Voiceofreason I happen to have a PS3 and Xbox 360 and the Wii. in my home. The Wii has been moved to the small tv in the third room for when the Kids come over. and you know what, they nag me to let them play the other 2 consoles. To me that is telling. eventually all that will be left will be Rehabs and old folks homes.
you know what? I hate all this nonsense: the Wii is aimed at an entirely different crowd than those who would described as 'hardcore' I understand why some people don't like the Wii, but even if you purely look at it as a gateway to serious games, then the Wii has a lot going for it. The games are fun and mindless. You should know by now what you are getting yourself into.
Nintendo never said they were abandoning the hardcore for the casual market. That is the point. It would be different if they did, at least we would know where we stood. Instead, because i has all taken off for them, hey go where they think where the most money is. No problem with that. However, they palm off saying they do hardcore. When the reggit character was challenge on that at E3, he could only come up with a pathetic response I bought the we partly because of the something new hype to complement my 360 and PS3, but I did not expect to have very little but shovelware to play with.
I do agree that ninty should just stop the pandering: if they are going to abandon the hardcore, they may aswel admit it. I for one, don't mind. I know what the wii is and so should everyone by now. Bubbles to you bud
It is for very young children and people who find a game controller like the 360/PS as confusing as flying a fighter jet. I would put the Wii in the same category as those v-tec video game machines and the Leapfrog learning system....except you don't learn anything except how imprecise the Wii controller is.
Never touched one, you're 12, this is your first gen of gaming, You were dropped on your head as a child... Trying to come up with a reason for you to be as retarded as you are and ignorant as well.
you are a foul and angry person. You must be a metallica fan.
You should've abandoned Wii the minute it came out.
oh look, someone named SIXAXIS bashing the Wii... hummmmm... now go to hell...
...so they spend 2008 telling you that the PS3 will fail, now their New Years resolution is to tell you you should do the same for the Wii? Lemme guess... they think that the 360 is the way to go, right?
hardcore gamers = ps3 and 360. casual and little kids = wii. pick one and move on.
I've said this all along. Wii is for casual gamers, its a good entry for people to get into gaming. But all the hardcore gamers that got a Wii, I knew they'd get bored and eventually need an Xbox 360 or PS3. Wii isn't a bad system, its fun, but its not for the hardcore gamer.
You should never abandon you console, just because someone said to. Its not right. Even though I am a PlayStation guy doesn't mean I want any of the consoles to fail. I hate the Wii and the 360 but I don't want some Wii or 360 owner to give up what they love just because the media or some friend said to. Gaming FTW!
Rather harsh right there I like the wii the only problem is that I rarely play so at this point I can't justify the purchase its fine for a party but more people in my circle want to play gh or rb2 and that being said I can't have enough parties to play the Wii as much as I would like because IMO there is nothing to play alone. How many times can you play zelda or Mario?
Whatta joke. And now we have the fanboys out and about echoing the same non sense. Unreal. Yeah, I'm gonna listen to some goober on what I should do and when I should do it. New years resolution I hoped for N4g to make was to stop posting nonsensical articles, o well. I can't believe two years later we are still seeing the whole "casual gamerz vs hardcore gamerz crap" gimme a break. "Nintendo is hurting the industry" Wow, just wow. Without the Big N where would our industry be? High Revenue and lilttle to no profit, you know what that means? Yeah companies going belly up. Some folks are straight dellusional.
I would be cheating my self as a gamer if i won't be playing games like Zelda, Mario, Pikmin, Metroid etc etc(and games like madworld or the conduit). I will not miss out those games, if he thinks i will, then he is an idiot period. Any one listening to this guy is an idiot. Make up your own mind don't be a sheep.