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PlayStation: Xbox's Call of Duty offer was "inadequate on many levels"

PlayStation calls Xbox Call of Duty offer inadequate

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SoulWarrior597d ago

And this is why you can never believe a word that comes out of Phil's mouth, I'll give it until the end of this gen at the leatest until they pull it from PS, and I can't say I'm surprised by this at all, nobody spends 70 billion to help their direct competition forever and Phil was always tiptoeing around this with his wording lol.

z2g597d ago

the dude saved xbox. i absolutely believe everything out of his mouth. sony just wants their cake and to eat it too. you think sony would be this gracious? after jacking up prices on pretty much everything and still holding back on their subscription services?

SoulWarrior597d ago

"you think sony would be this gracious?"

*looks at the bungie deal* yeah potentially.

VenomUK597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

Following Sony revealing that Bungie would remain multiplatform Microsoft released a statement in February, on the Microsoft corporate blog where it said it was committed to keeping Call of Duty on PlayStation. However, if Sony's claims are true that Microsoft's offer actually is to actually keep Call of Duty for a limited period of time, just three extra years beyond the PlayStation partnership agreement, then this was a false and misleading statement to both the gaming community and the anti-competitiveness trade bodies around the world.

"To be clear, Microsoft will continue to make Call of Duty and other popular Activision Blizzard titles available on PlayStation through the term of any existing agreement with Activision. And we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love."

The statement "into the future" made EVERYONE believe forever - but ultimately this was that grubby corporate salesman wordplay.

https://blogs.microsoft.com...

Also, Phil Spencer's words here: " I confirmed our intent to honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard and our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation."
https://twitter.com/XboxP3/...

crazyCoconuts597d ago

I mean he talks about the spirit of keeping COD multi platform but only guarantees it for a certain number of years. He's trying to get the deal to go through but keep options open for MS to leverage their exclusive IP down the road. I'm not a Phil fan in general but I wouldn't expect anything different from any executive acting on behalf of his shareholders. It's just business

JBplusVB597d ago

As I've been saying, Phil is taking Xbox all the way to the top. First everyone saying Bethesda aquisition doesn't matter, which it certainly does. Now the Activision/Blizzard deal. Why on earth would they keep the games on PS forever? Sony lost out and they know it. That's why they raised the price of the PS5. They know after God of War Ragnarok comes out that will be the last great game the PS5 will ever see. The writings been on the wall.

darthv72597d ago

Easy solution... Sony needs to let xcloud work on the PS browser. I can use it on my steamdeck... why not a PS5?
No having to install big ass game files. Just open the browser and sign in to xcloud and play. And people wont have to buy the game, they can play it (and others) as part of gamepass ultimate. Problem solved.

crazyCoconuts597d ago

@darth: your "easy" solution is to turtle up and give a competitor access to your platform and revenue stream. Wrong wrong wrong.

darthv72597d ago

@crazy... "give a competitor access to your platform" ..... [looks at Minecraft]...

so what's the problem?

-Foxtrot597d ago

Why would you believe Phil

Remember

"Exclusives are not what gaming is all about"

Then 3 months later

"Microsoft Buys Zenimax"

Many, many months later

"Microsoft buys Activision Blizzard"

I mean...he's a bullshit liar

darkrider597d ago

Saved. Omg. No games at launch, no games now, force to buy publishers to have games, even after already having tons of studios. Saved... What Microsoft want is the monopoly of videogaming. Easy to see. Can't beat them, buy them.

Christopher597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

*** i absolutely believe everything out of his mouth.***

No matter how heroic the individual is, this should never be said about anyone. Especially not anyone who has the job of running a business, not going off and saving lives and nations from dire threats.

***you think sony would be this gracious?***

When was the last time Sony bought a third-party company and prevented future games from going onto other platforms?

Hypothetically, do I think if Sony was buying up Activision that they would want to use it to get more people on their platform? I absolutely think they would. But I also think they can't and likely haven't even considered it because they'd rather buy smaller teams that cater to their image and work with major third-party companies rather than own and have to manage them. Even with the deals they've made (like Bungie) they insist on maintaining those games on the platforms on which they were and future games out of them to be on other platforms as well. They've only ever limited access for New IPs they own or marketing deals with third-parties that are timed.

Microsoft is making big waves by doing things no one else in the console hardware industry has done before. Buying up two major third-party publishers and development studios under those publishers. This isn't "normal" discussion material or hypothetical land because, hypothetically, it's the first of its kind. This isn't software buying software to have more software, this is hardware and platform provider buying up software to encourage more people to move to their hardware and platforms.

TheLigX597d ago

Another dope stanning for monopolistic practices. lol boot-licker vibe is strong with you.

darthv72597d ago

okay... if people dont like the browser / xcloud idea, how about Jim just pays more $$ to MS. If they didnt have a problem doing that with Activision, they certainly shouldnt have a problem paying MS now. All contracts are negotiable. They just need to hash it out.

CaptainHenry916597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

@JB

"They know after God of War Ragnarok comes out that will be the last great game the PS5 will ever see. The writings been on the wall."

Whatever drugs you are on, can you please give me some. I like to think I'm delusional sometimes. These desperate comments are comical

Profchaos597d ago

I agree he's done some incredible things but he's a business man ans representative of ms they don't like to lose and have a track record showing they will be pro consumer when threatened but anti when they are at the top.

Kakashi Hatake597d ago

Holding back on their subscription service? Sony has a stronger market position than Microsoft so they don't have to blow billions of dollars to stay competitive. Why should they if their games sell well? Sony also doesn't have the money to fund the AAA experiences we want and give them away. If you're going to cry about having to actually buy games, get a different hobby or play games only on Gamepass. Don't expect competitors to follow the ones desperate to catch up.

sinspirit597d ago

Phil did nothing to save XBox. In fact, he has been behind a multitude of the poor decisions XBox was in charge of under Microsoft. He only made it to his position because everyone else was the fall guys for simply enforcing Microsoft's policy.

Phil was in charge of Europe gaming divisions. Under his guidance we had what were originally legendary gaming studios become shadows of their former selves(Lionhead and Rare). They were then made to focus on Kinect games in 2008-2010 timeline. He was promoted to director of games following Kinect's financial success because the hype train was immense. So he is the Kinect guy behind the initial push and shift of game focus from core gamers in the first place. He gets shoved into the XBox head role because he was the next in line and MS did not have him put on a stage to talk about the decisions they were having XBox make, so luckily no bad pr for him. He wasn't particularly chosen out of real substance. Again, throughout all of XBox One's lifespan he screwed core games over and continues to overhype and fail promises. Then he carries this again through to this generation. The excuse that spanned over all of the XBox One's generation was that his predecessors were to blame, yada yada. Even 5 years in. And, the funny thing is he was in charge of all gaming divisions since his promotion in 2010. So, in fact the game drought and deterioration has always been him. It's still him. We have it worse than it's ever been and continue waiting and waiting. Good faith going on this long is just silly. I don't like being gaslit, mislead, or strung along by what should be an enjoyable hobby. Like whatever platform you like. That's fine. But, I can't wrap my head around praising a guy like this like he has been just because of some stage appeal and acting like a real gamer.

Crows90597d ago

Saved? How so?
He was just someone other than Don.

Since he took over there has been studio closures. IP failures and cancellations. Not a single new studio formed that has released a good new game or IP. Existing IP have been stale. He has switched gears and bought out a bunch of multiplatform IP in order to make them permanently exclusive which screws about 70% of the gaming base. He's doubled down on digital and subscriptions services. And he's gone all in on exclusives day 1 for pc...what exactly has he saved?

He's killed the reason to own an Xbox. Xbox is now an irrelevant console. Gamepass has replaced it.

EvertonFC597d ago

Jacking up prices ? Take into account series X uses 15X more electricity in sleep mode than PS5 at £177 a year compared to PS5 sleep mode £17 a year.
I'm saving money compared to series X

JBplusVB597d ago

@Captain Henry, Hope you are still on here in a few years. Of course I wish you nothing but good health and great games. You may think I am on drugs but I am not. We will have a discussion after God of War hype dies down. You and I both know that Sony is sailing their ship right into a storm. You PS gamers are going to be so shocked when they literally have nothing to offer. I can even see them raising their game prices to 80$, that's how desperate a situation Sony is in. 5 years from now Sony will be out of the picture completely.

anast596d ago

I'm jealous of your downvote count. I think 126 is the highest I've seen yet.

Shikoku596d ago (Edited 596d ago )

Spencer just shifted MS focus but their push to make everything digital make no mistake is still there, that's why game pass exists because they want to be the Netflix of gaming and if the current state of streaming services isn't teaching people anything then I don't know what will.

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Babadook7596d ago

What I am concerned over, is whether MS can keep themselves from seriously gimping the PS versions. And when they do, there will be no way to prove they did so. But if you look at their history (Halo 1 Mac and other examples) they tend to gimp their competition even when they are contractually obligated not to.

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itsmebryan597d ago

According to the people on this site no one plays COD anymore anyway. What's the problem?

Eonjay597d ago

You never heard me say that. I play COD nearly every other day. Its one of the games in my rotation. I don't buy all of them. The last one I got was Cold War as Black Ops is the series I play the most. Since 2014 I have purchased every COD except for WWII and Vanguard.

rippermcrip597d ago

Look, if anyone said that, they're clearly fanboys of some sort. COD is the best selling shooter of all time and as of June 2022, it had sold 25 million copies in the previous year.

Desperadoo597d ago

According to Phil exclusives dont matter... why not keep COD on PS?

darkrider597d ago

60 % + play it on Sony machines

Binarycode597d ago

Yep it's the same thing over and over.

BF ruined it's latest game.

Not many other shooters ppl are interested in.

Crows90597d ago

Yeah sure. Just like people say no one plays phone games.

I'm pretty sure you misinterpreted the people on the site

EvertonFC597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

It'll be the best game of all time come MS completion from the Xbox fanboys pmsl.
I also thought gamers preferred a physical disk, yet a free copy on GP to download is perfectly fine now.
How one changes there mind lol

Father__Merrin597d ago

I play COD yearly mabey it's the voices in the head you heard that from?

ChubbyBlade596d ago

The people on this site are very disconnected from reality.

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DOMination-597d ago

The offer on the table was that MS would keep it on PS for as long as the current deal runs for (believed to be up to and including 2024). After that, it is their right as owner of the IP to do whatever they want with it.

Eonjay597d ago

That was the offer but publically they said that they plan to keep COD on PlayStation beyond the current Sony/Activision deal. Of course this was to cast a good light on themselves in light of the aquisition investigations.

Asuka597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

Tbh I wouldn't believe any the crap regardless which company is spewing it. Just tired of all of it.

aconnellan597d ago

“And this is why you can never believe a word that comes out of Phil's mouth”

What did he lie about?

darkrider597d ago

Everything since day one. Just Google it. Phil Spencer is the typical second hand car salesman. He will say whatever to sell something. From the power of the cloud, to the exclusives, sales don't matter, sp games are dead. The list is huge. But now we see the real plan.

brewin597d ago

He didn't, some are just saying stuff cuz they're upset. 3 years after the current agreement that ends when?2024?! So they're going to keep it on PlayStation until 2027 at least? Id say that's pretty generous considering they've no obligation to do so. What this all essentially means is that we're heading toward a more streamlined console future. We may still have Xboxs and PlayStation branded consoles, but all the software may be playable on them all.

sparky77597d ago

You are right he didn't lie, it's just no one wanted to believe it was a possibility.

Now that it's out in the open the pitchforks are out.

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Desperadoo597d ago

still waiting on Phil Spence to deliver on games.... not games he bought companies for but games from MS...

Phil says what gamers want to hear to get on there good side..its how he Markets

Phil two faced

Outside_ofthe_Box597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

"Phil two faced"

Phil broke out the check to purchase Activision. If he wants to keep it exclusive to Xbox and PC that's his decision as they own them now. There is nothing wrong with that from a business perspective. From a gaming perspective that's a different story which is why you don't go around saying stuff like this to paint a certain picture:

"I’ll just say to players out there who are playing Activision Blizzard games on Sony’s platform: It’s not our intent to pull communities away from that platform and we remained committed to that"

Like you said Two Faced Phil.

darthv72597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

@Desperadoo... why don't you come to your senses

@Outside, two faced Jim also applies. I don't need to bring up his 'generations' comment as everyone knows that one.

Bottom line is these guys are suits. They have shareholders to answer to as well as the upper level management. this business is fluid, always in a state of flux. what happens one day can be totally reversed the next. You never want to take everything as the gospel.

Lightning77597d ago

They don't need to pull COD away from PS. Putting it on gamepass day one with all the DLC is enough for Xbox. Especially when the game will be 70$ on PS5.

darthv72597d ago

they can do that as well as put it on xcloud. By developing for xcloud (based on series x), they wont have to develop it for other hardware. And anyone with a web browser (or dedicated app) could play it, including the PS6, 7, 8... etc. I have found xcloud works really well for my steamdeck.

Necr0philiac597d ago

Sony fanboys try so hard. Its embarrassing. They try to spin everything MS related like they think its going to change someone's feelings about them. All they accomplish is pumping up the other sony cheerleaders. I just comes off as crying to me at least.

shinoff2183597d ago

You right necro you do come off as crying.

porkChop597d ago

You won't believe Phil but you'll believe Jim Ryan who hasn't told the truth once since before this gen even started.

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1Victor597d ago

The first shot has been fired and so begins the great consoles war.
Do not be surprised if Sony retaliate by not supporting Xbox with destiny when their contract expires and keeping all other titles away from Xbox.

This is a great lost for everyone as now Sony will have to shop around for more developers maybe publishers to counter balance Microsoft attempt to monopolize the gaming industry and Xbox players without 3rd party games they used to play in the pass. Capcom, Sega and many Japanese developers are in the table for Sony developers that would close their doors before letting a western mega corporation buy them.

ABizzel1596d ago

This is a waste of time and energy from Sony. They already should have known Phil, moreso MS, was not going to let COD just live freely when they can attempt to get 10 - 30 million gamers to instantly consider going Xbox/GamePass for Call of Duty alone. This is business.

Instead of going back and forth with MS, Sony needs to be investing in Bungie, Deviation Games, and Firewalk to make new AAA shooters, and acquire Deviation and Firewalk to make their own AAA CoD like-game.

anubusgold596d ago

Sony needs to shut up after buying all these exclusive game deals and paying to keep games off gamepass.

MadLad596d ago (Edited 596d ago )

Isn't Sony the company that literally pays money just to make sure games don't show up on Xbox?

At least Microsoft actually buys these studios and bankrolls them as 1st party studio.

The moment Sony starts being denied games they act like children and say how it's unfair.

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MegaLogic596d ago

Not only are Sony and the their fans hypocrites, they're also cry babies, who would have guessed?! Lol. Pathetic beyond belief on Sony's part.

neutralgamer1992596d ago

Ging is changing right in front of our very eyes

Phil said we want these games on all GP platforms meaning their goal is to have GP on PlayStation and Nintendo if those platforms want their games

But this isn't good for gamers because now Sony and Nintendo may end up making acquisitions and keeping those games away from Xbox so the whole concept of one box play all games might be coming to an end fast

And those who think Ms can flex because of their budget better be careful because a company like Sony may agree to merge with apple or Amazon to compete against Ms/Xbox

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Orchard597d ago

If Jim feels it was so inadequate... how about coughing up the money to buy it yourself? MS were being nice, they're under zero obligation to keep this game on your platform.

northpaws597d ago

Being nice lol, they had to or it probably can't pass anti-competition laws. Sony is also under zero obligation to not do something to keep CoD on PlayStation longer. It is just business.

MadLad596d ago

They honored every deal had made previous to acquiring studios now under them.
They could have easily not honored the Kickstarter promises made for Psychonauts 2 and easily given themselves an Xbox only GOTY contender.
They didn't do it.

They could have easily cancelled the Deathloop timed exclusivity, or even make cut a PlayStation release all together, and have another GOTY contender there as well.

Sony literally pays money JUST to keep games off of Xbox. They don't acquire them. They don't bankroll them. They just pay money to keep games off of Xbox.
Microsoft actually pays to make these studios 1st party.

Sony is getting pathetic this generation. They're supposedly the market leader, and pride themselves on their 1st party releases ... yet break down at the idea of losing a 3rd party title.

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ChasterMies597d ago

Microsoft, the gentle monopolist.

OptimusDK596d ago

Sony is the monopolist putting into agreements that games must not be better on the strongest console
- hint this is not Playstation

crazyCoconuts597d ago

Sony obviously doesn't have the capital to do that. MS needs to be nice right now for the regulators, and Sony wants to play the victim card to prevent it. Whether it's "fair" or not for Xbox to use MS' sizable coffers to buy up the competition so to speak is what's up for debate I guess

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Outside_ofthe_Box597d ago

@Orchard

Sure, but then don't lie and act your the good guy like Phil is trying to paint. All that talk about trying to protect us from big bad Amazon and Google and how he trusts Sony and Nintendo is hogwash.

They bought Activision and Bethesda before it to get one step closer on being the sole competitor, nothing more nothing less. Don't try to paint as being pro gamer when all you want to do is crush the comp. Own it and say it.

gangsta_red597d ago

Gasp, you mean Phil is running a business? No one is saying what you're claiming.

You guys make up your own arguments to debate. When MS first bought Activision all we heard from the usuals was, "Phil is keeping games off of other consoles!", You all already made up your mind before the ink was even dry.
They have honored all contracts for Sony, if Sony wants to continue to have CoD on PS, A MS OWNED IP, then Sony should negotiate more time.

If not, then play CoD on PC, Xbox or any other streaming device that MS supports, which is more than what Sony offers for their games they keep off of other platforms.

sinspirit597d ago

@gangsta_red

So.. it's Sony's fault for CoD eventually being exclusive? Not the person buying a major third party publisher/developer and eventually taking multiplatform away?

"which is more than what Sony offers for their games they keep off of other platforms.".. so.. now the argument that their games are coming to PC is gone?

gangsta_red597d ago

@sinspirit
"Not the person buying a major third party publisher/developer and eventually taking multiplatform away?"

What is this about multiplatform being taken away, you mean CoD, which will remain on PS for the agreed amount of time between Activision and Sony, plus an extra three years MS has allowed?

"Last week, Xbox revealed that it had "provided a signed agreement to Sony to guarantee Call of Duty on PlayStation, with feature and content parity, for at least several more years" beyond Sony's existing contract with Activision. Xbox said this offer "goes well beyond typical gaming industry agreements."

The current deal between Sony and Activision Blizzard around Call of Duty is believed to cover the next three releases, including this year's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2."

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".. so.. now the argument that their games are coming to PC is gone?"

...No... that's your argument, my statement is MS supports more multiplatforms than Sony ever has.

sinspirit597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

@gangsta_red

Why are you dodging the question? Telling Sony to negotiate more time for something like it's their fault if it doesn't stay multiplatform. Not how it works when strong-armed. Also, keyword was "eventually taken away". Respond directly. Over-explaining and not responding appropriately doesn't make good argument. The article is right here. Don't explain to me what it says, especially when I have not said otherwise.

They specifically acquired a ton of studios with absolutely major titles just to keep them off of competing platforms unless they agree to support GamePass. Throwing a bone here or there means nothing. Why would anyone let crumbs of good behavior outweigh all the negatives and bad behavior? Sure makes PR easier.

gangsta_red597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

@sinspirit

"Eventually taken away"

Since the article is right here, leave the quote that MS says they'll eventually be taking CoD away from Playstation. Because as of right now, Sony and MS can still negotiate a deal past the agreed time.

What we do know is Sony has CoD until 2028, that's damn near the PS5 console life cycle. CoD will have feature content parity across all platforms, that's a lot more generous than what Sony did when they paid for CoD exclusive and timed content.

But I guess in some way you're right, we'll have to wait until 2029 to see if MS will "eventually" take CoD away from PS.

"Why are you dodging the question?"

Again, making up arguments isn't how discussions work. No one said it's Sony's fault. So why ask me a question that I never stated?

"...just to keep them off of competing platforms unless they agree to support GamePass"

Which platforms? Since you're using the plural form I'm assuming there's more than one platform MS is keeping these games off of...and as far as I know... PlayStation is the only platform that some games might not appear on. What are the other ones? Links if you have them.

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OmegaSoldati597d ago

Exactly, Sony is the one who loves an exclusive and now they say this. I'm no fan boy but they are crying.

1Victor596d ago

@ omega Exactly, Sony is the one who loves an exclusive and now they say this. I'm no fan boy but they are crying.

Can you please provide a link or prove that Sony has taken 3rd party games permanently away from Xbox, SONY EXCLUSIVES ARE INTERNALLY MADE OR PURCHASE HIGH RISK FROM 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS example little big planet was a high risk game refused by both Nintendo and Microsoft.
Did sony buy permanently exclusive for madden or fifa just to keep it away from Xbox? No, that’s what’s been talk about.

JEECE597d ago

Well, technically they are under an existing contractual obligation to keep it there for awhile.

kayoss596d ago

Wasnt it Xbox fans who complained about Sony paying for exclusive content and paying for early access? But they are ok with Microsoft buy an entire company so that they have exclusive rights to an IP? a bit of a double standard dont you think.
Imagine if Sony didnt allow Bungie's games to be multiplatform. Xbox fans would have been out in full force.

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sparky77597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

Wow MS is planning to take COD from PS, I am shocked. They really don't want to take the free money lol.

Personally if I was MS I would say if you want COD, cancel all third party deals you have like Final Fantasy.

Sonyslave3597d ago

Not only that canceled all 3rd party deal 😄😄 or else.

SoulWarrior597d ago

Sony really don't have the bargaining power though, FF has never been particularly popular on Xbox and I can't see how that would appeal to MS, the best Sony could do is say oh well all future Destiny/Bungie content won't be on Xbox then but MS wouldn't really care too much I don't think.

Soldierone597d ago

Microsoft has deals too, and that being said FF's deal expired last year so it's literally just Square not porting it at this point. If Xbox sold more units they'd probably have more leverage.

MS would probably be more interested in PS exclusives going to PC Gamepass.

Sonyslave3597d ago

Well ms 3 years = several years it would be stupid for Ms to promise Cod forever on Ps. While they are hell bent on taking games from xbox lol differemce is Ms will owned Activison and can what ever they can.

SoulWarrior597d ago (Edited 597d ago )

When MS bought 2 publishers and not making a dozen/more IPs unavailable in the unforseen future on a platform where they have decades of history on? A handful of timed/console exclusives don't really compare to that at all I don't think.

OmegaSoldati597d ago

Agreed its an MS company now, they paid for it after the other part signed everything. Sony loves to flex on their exclusives and now they are crying.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 15h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 2h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188123h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio23h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7718h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 1h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7211h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga23h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan19h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit12h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2318h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7218h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

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purple1011d 4h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 3h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-17h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 3h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 2h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead17h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers2d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d 11h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 20h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 20h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 20h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 16h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 19h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 19h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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