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Xbox Exec Wants to Show Fable Now, But the Developer Wants It to Be Ready First

From IGN: "Head of Microsoft Studios Matt Booty already wants to show off Fable on the Xbox Series X but developer Playground Games has refused to do so until it's properly ready.

Speaking at PAX West 2022, Booty said that Playground is doing so many cool things with the next generation Fable game that he asks them to share it every time he sees it:

"Part of my job is giving air cover to the team," he explained. "They don't want to show stuff early before it's ready to go, but if there's one game where that's kind of flipped around, where every time I see something I say, 'We should show this', it's Fable. Because there's a lot of cool stuff."

phoenixwing600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

The devs obviously know it's looking janky and the exec is too clueless to notice it

brewin600d ago

Can't wait till you get to eat that plate of crow. Playground is an amazingly talented studio. Fable will be amazing and Matt is just excited to show off what he's seen. Clearly it's still early and the devs don't want to make the wait worse for the fans. I personally want to see something. A brief gameplay clip or even some of the art assets they're using. At least we know it's coming.

phoenixwing600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

Lol you mistake me for a troll but I actually own gamepass on my computer. If the dev had actually good looking stuff they wouldn't be averse to showing it. Unless you somehow think the devs are bashful about their coding. And what utter hogwash not wanting to make fans wait are you in lala land?

phoenixwing600d ago

As a final reply I am not saying the game will turn out bad. I'm actually looking forward to it. But if the devs say to wait it's obvious what they have needs to be worked on more and they know it which is a good thing on the devs part.

RaidenBlack600d ago

The part that draws my attention to Fable is that they're using ForzaTech engine to create Fable instead of UE.
Kinda curious how it'll look and play.
Given Playground Game's usual attention to detail, it might look something stellar but at the same time, might take years for it become ready for a proper release.

Godmars290600d ago

So you're agreeing with him that the exec knows less then the dev, but disagree that its too soon to be showing the game, thus agreeing with the exec who you know to be wrong?

Keep doing you dude...

Crows90599d ago

They may be talented especially at making racers but as was the case for CD project red that doesn't mean much when you're making a game in a style you've never done before. And in this case a genre that they've never even touched. I think but I may be wrong. I do hope it is amazing since I love fable.

darkrider599d ago

Did they ever made anything else but racers?

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MadLad599d ago

Yeah.
Everyone knows Playground Games is an amateur studio, at best.
They were given the IP just for a laugh by Microsoft.

brewin599d ago

When they're bringing in award winning writing talent from the likes of games like Control and Dishonored I'd say it's in pretty good hands. Plus, playground opened a whole second studio to work on the game and have been hiring like crazy. Microsoft knows they can't screw this one up so they are putting all the time and resources they possibly can into it.

Bathyj599d ago

"Microsoft knows they can't screw this one up so they are putting all the time and resources they possibly can into it."

You have the memory of a goldfish.

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Relientk77600d ago

So Matt Booty wants more backlash like the Halo Infinite gameplay trailer from 2020 lol? Yeah, maybe you should listen to the developers.

Jin_Sakai600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

I’m pretty sure he did listen to the developer because we haven’t seen it yet.

Eonjay599d ago

This is a case where the game could have benifited form being announced at a later date.

Lightning77600d ago

But if they don't show anything then ppl will complain anyway. "where are the games" is what I keep hearing.

MS applies a little pressure now they're clueless.

For God's sakes pick a narrative.

SullysCigar600d ago

Both scenarios can - and do - coexist:

Where are the games?

Not ready yet.

Why not?

Because we suck at scheduling. Also we don't want to waste too much money on games people will just play on gamepass.

Oh. :^/

neutralgamer1992600d ago

lightning

i hate the fact we as gamers don't call it like it is:

last 2-3 years of xbox360 were kind of empty while sony released some quality games and the reason given was ms are preparing for next gen yet during xbox one they had the same issues. Then came this gen and here we aare still waiting. BTW phil knew they needed more talent/IP's but waited til this gen to buy more studios so once again we have to wait

and AA games being on GP is a real thing. we don't have enough data but please understand how these services work. you need steady stream of content and AAA games like you said take time. I think 60% of MS games will be under AA banner where they can be made within 2 years while 40% will be true AAA and will be given the proper time and resources

AA in my opinion isn't bad i actually miss the days when we had legit AA publishers like THQ and Midway to name a few

Michiel1989600d ago

@sully not waste too much money? did you look at how much they paid for bethesda and how much theyre gonna pay for actiblizz?

oh :/

anast599d ago

They haven't released a quality game beside Forza in over 20 years. Think about that. Instead of making good games they pacified their fans with a subservices. This is the actual narrative.

jwillj2k4599d ago

you've been hearing that since the second half of the xb360 life cycle since when did that narrative bother you??

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Lightning77600d ago

"@Sully Also we don't want to waste too much money on games people will just play on gamepass."

You're clearly trolling. If that were true Hell Blade 2 wouldn't be a thing or games like Lies of P, Wo Long, Star Field Redfall and even even Diabolo 4 will make its way on the service.

You can't whine about both things at least be consistent.

Flawlessmic600d ago

Lightning, where are the games for 2022?

Like honestly man i bought my xsx thinking things would be different and eventually they will be, but thats the key word evetually!

Since halo and forza came out my xbox has been a glorified dust collector.

Im as excited as anyone for those games you listed but 2022 has been absolute write off for ms this year.

Thank god i own all 3 consoles other wise id have the shits even more so at ms lack of production.

RickRoland600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

Lightning,

My favorite part about your list is basically everything was or will be acquired through a purchase and Microsoft has done absolutely diddly squat for these games to exist / be completed. At least list games they put in work for. What would that list would be without the VERY recent / soon to be completed Bethesda/activision/blizzard purchases? Microsoft recently spent billions for these companies because they knew their output was absolutely horrible. This was a quick fix.

EmperorDalek600d ago

But... He isn't showing it because he listened to the developer in this case. What are you on about?

Lightning77600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

@Rick "Microsoft has done absolutely diddly squat for these games to exist / be completed."

Bro I could care absolutely less who makes the games. I'm a gamer at the end of the day. I'm not gonna lose sleep because a bunch of Xbox devs aren't in the credits. That's a very VERY strange goal post. Just play the games and enjoy them. Unless you want to congratulate every developer at the end credits? Sound director Joe Smith. Yay Joe Smith! Come on that's weird.

@Flawless I hear you. It's easily one of the worst years of Xbox game wise. In fact it's worse than any year of X1. Though that's not the argument I'm making here. If ppl are gonna troll at least pick a trolling narrative and stick to it. They want MS to show the games but yet don't want another Halo Infinite situation. Yet still complain they haven't shown anything...

Here how insane that sounds?

This is the mind of a crazy person.

Flawlessmic600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

You gotta keep in mind ms has been severly lacking in games for years now so yes peoole want to see them, but at the same time we also dont them showing a game thats 4 years away also.

Ms stuffed up annoucing games that devshad barely started on.

You think sony isnt working on more games than they have officially announced? Ofcourse they are but its to soon to even annouce for some of them im sure.

Ms buckled under pressure and blew there load by annoucing almost everything they can for games that are years away meanwhile are also in barren stretch of exclusives.

Im really not gonna get mad people having the shits, ms has been in yhe game for 4 gens now, to still have issues with releasing a handful of games every yr is silly at this point.

Would it kill ms to have some structure around announcements and a somewhat reasonable release date from that annoucement.

I dont need to be told there making games, obvs they are, what i want is a steady stream of releases of exclusives that i can actually play.

Bathyj599d ago

Your just deflecting the issue that Microsoft rarely make good games. Especially in the last decade. Why aren't you demanding better? This is honestly enough for you?

Lightning77599d ago (Edited 599d ago )

@Bathy don't speak about demanding better when Sony's making questionable decision's? -1 for self awareness.

Anyway what does demanding better look like in this scenario please tell me? I was literally just talking about it. Demand better show off games that will look like Infinite or go ahead and release a game that's buggy like Starfield? Or wait it out and until the game's are polished and ready.

If they release those games early you would say "you see MS can't make good games!" as predictable as you are.

Again pick a narrative. What I demand is good games. I wouldn't be concerned over games you'll never touch and play anyway.

Is waiting on quality games enough? Yes it is enough.

HannibalLecter599d ago (Edited 599d ago )

Lol the only one delusional in this entire thread is lightning77.
Lmao. Still hoping and dreaming after an entire generation of mediocrity from your precious... Still waiting .... Having fun with that lightning77. Meanwhile other companies are putting out bangers. But you keep on waiting and spouting your nonsense. The rest of us are way over the wait and see stuff. Put up or shut up is what you should want, but your willing to wait and wait til someday you get something.....Hopefully. Good for you but others want substance.

Please don't hold your breath trying to wait for something good to release for you from your company of choice. , you will definitely turn fully green if your not already there. Hate to see how you act if that acquisition doesn't go through.
Xbox's (MS) motto can't beat it, buy it or change it

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GoodGuy09600d ago

Yes please wait til it's ready.

XiNatsuDragnel600d ago

Wait til it's ready Microsoft never force a rushed project because it'll create discontent with your devs imo.

HyperMoused600d ago

The development of this game is a fairy tale with an underlying meaning

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Fable – What the Heck is Going On?

Announced in 2020, Playground Games' open-world action RPG has seen sporadic updates and departures but still no release date.

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PhillyDonJawn7d ago

I expect it to be released by 2026

Sonic18817d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I expect it to release by the time the next Xbox releases. Can that be 2026? Sure

DOMination-7d ago

You could say the same for any number of games that were stupidly announced during pre-production. Elder Scrolls 6 & Perfect Dark are current examples, Blade is another recent one and in the past Mass Effect Andromeda and Cyberpunk 2077 come to mind.

I don't think this game is in any trouble. For a start, Playground Games are one of the few under MS Studios that actually have a track record of delivering on time and with quality. We got a trailer last year and I'd fully expect there to be something more substantial at the next showcase in the summer.

No dramas here - just another victim of Microsoft's incompetence. They simply had to announce several games way too early because they had nothing else to talk about.

Michiel19897d ago

how are they a victim when they are clearly being given enough time? They haven't set any release date, haven't had to show any trailers, how is that being a victim? You even say yourself that you think it's not in trouble.

MrBaskerville7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

TESVI was mostly announced to stop people from asking. Like how they gave us a roadmap of first Starfield, then TES then Fallout. So people keep asking whether they'll do another one or not.

But Fable and Perfect Dark was defineately too early.

Tody_ZA7d ago

The same thing that happens to any project when you announce it far too early. Perfect Dark, Fable, The Elder Scrolls 6, Star Wars KOTOR Remake...you actually have to, I don't know, make the game?

I'm fairly confident this game will see the light of day, as Playground have released 5 Forza games of quality and on schedule. Think it was just revealed too early.

Charlieboy3337d ago

The only issue I see is that, as you mentioned, they have only done Forza games. An RPG is completely different requiring completely different facets.

Whole new different open world....not just tracks. Character designs and animations, dialogue, combat systems, quest systems, equipment and inventory managment....the list is very long and none of it falls under their previous experience.

Even with assistance from other studios I believe they are still far off from delivering a complete version of this game.

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Baldur's Gate 3 Producer Has Joined Fable Developer Playground Games

Baldur's Gate 3 producer Ryan Clark, who worked at Larian Studios for four years, has joined Fable developer Playground Games

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Obscure_Observer211d ago

Xbox is definitely the house of RPGs and it´s getting bigger and better by the day!

Fable will be fantastic!

Marcus Fenix211d ago

I hope to see the following at Microsoft’s June games showcase:

Contraband (3rd party exclusive)
ID Software
Machine Games
The Coalition
Playground
Ninja Theory
The Initiative
Double Fine
Rare

Im sure we won’t see all these studio’s projects but at least 5 of them would be nice.

Sciurus_vulgaris211d ago

I’m surprised Gears 6 hasn’t been announced by the Coalition as of yet. Gears 5 released 4 years and the Coalitions hasn’t another AAA title since then, excluding the co-developed Gears Tactics.

Lightning77211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

Todd hinted at Indiana Jones being at next year's E3.

I heard Contraband is going through some sorta rework. I don't really have much hope for that game at this point in time.

Btw Gears 6 is in full development they took time away to learn Unreal Engine 5. Yeah... If we're going off of Immortals Of Aveum performance. They have allot of work ahead of them.

GhostScholar211d ago

I’m with you, but you had to know that comment wouldn’t be popular here lol

Sonic1881211d ago

The house of western RPGs. There, I fixed it for you

Crows90211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

Not even accurate though. They haven't made a single RPG yet. Starfield is barely an RPG as it is...there's no role picking unlike in elder scrolls games...especially the older ones. No skills...no attributes...just perks.

Imagine baldurs gate 3 where all you get to pick are feats.

Sonic1881211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

Starfield was probably the worse RPG from Bethesda. Especially when it comes to review scores on Steam

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

https://youtu.be/NuJumZT7Kt...

darthv72210d ago

All games are RPG if you think about it. You play the role of a character and do the stuff required to win the game.

Technically speaking.

Zeref211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

I couldn't be happier about that. I heard even Infinity Ward is working on an RPG. I am hyped af to see what they can do outside of CoD!

Crows90211d ago

What new RPGs has Xbox made recently?

jjb1981211d ago

I played the Fable Legends closed beta and actually kinda liked it. It sucks that it was canceled. I'm definitely looking forward to the new Fable.

Crows90211d ago

So it could have been really good. They lacked vision for the end product.

Barlos210d ago (Edited 210d ago )

Absolutely. I loved FF7 Remake and I've been playing the hell out of FFXVI and BG3 on my Xbox and I can't wait for FF7 Rebirth next February!

Oh hang on, none of them are on xbox are they?

House of the RPG indeed.

Obscure_Observer210d ago

None of the games you mentioned are first party.

Those aren´t even exclusive.

In case you didn´t notice, Fable is an first party RPG among many others in development at XGS.

CappyBlack209d ago

When's the last time Sony released a JRPG; let alone an actual RPG? Outside of 3rd party payouts. I can say the same for virtually every genre that isn't a linear action game or a racing game that doesn't press their competition.

Barlos209d ago (Edited 209d ago )

"None of the games you mentioned are first party.

Those aren´t even exclusive.

In case you didn´t notice, Fable is an first party RPG among many others in development at XGS."

And where in your original post did you mention first party? Regardless of exclusivity, none of the games I mentioned - some of the biggest RPGs around - are on Xbox but you seem to think Xbox is home of the RPG. You have Starfield and...oh, Fable. Wow.

But that's OK, if you want to move the goalposts to make yourself feel better, go right ahead 👍

Also, if you want to talk first party, some would say that Horizon and God of War are action RPGs. I personally don't, but they could be classed as such since they have RPG elements.

Obscure_Observer209d ago (Edited 209d ago )

"And where in your original post did you mention first party?"

This topic is about Ryan Clark from Larian joining Playground Games.

I said, "Xbox is definitely the house of RPGs and it´s getting bigger and better by the day!"

Not idea how you though I was talking about third party games.

"Regardless of exclusivity, none of the games I mentioned - some of the biggest RPGs around - are on Xbox but you seem to think Xbox is home of the RPG."

Xbox as a brand, doesn´t have to own all of the RPG games available in the market to be considered "the house of RPGs". I made that statement because today, Xbox is the brand with more dedicated RPG studios under its wings.

Besides, Phil has a new partnership with SE in place, we already got FFXIV from Yoshi P´s team, I wouldn´t be surprised if FF7R and FFXVI are the next. BG3 is also coming to Xbox this year, it´s not like we ain´t getting that game.

" You have Starfield and...oh, Fable. Wow."

Pentiment
Project Dragon
Towerborne
TESVI
Fallout 5
Avowed
Clockwork Revolution
The Outer Worlds 2

All first party. So now you know.

Like I said, Xbox is undoubtedly the house of the RPG games. You may not like it, but it´s nothing but a fact. Unless of course, you have some actual facts to counter the facts the brought here regarding first party RPG development.

"Also, if you want to talk first party, some would say that Horizon and God of War are action RPGs. I personally don't, but they could be classed as such since they have RPG elements."

You know as well as everybody that those games are action/adventure games with some RPG elements thrown into the mix.

Unfortunately at the moment, Sony is not investing in first party RPGs or RPG studios. Sorry.

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Crows90211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

Still waiting to see what kind of game fable will be. Hope it has gargoyles...probably not.

Hope you can pick between male or female and choose something else to distinguish yourself during character creation.

Super excited for this and perfect dark...excited to see what they make that is. Don't have any high hopes but maybe MS can prove me wrong. Playground has been their studio for a long time and the initiative is their only new studio

Lightning77211d ago

"Hope you can pick between male or female and choose something else to distinguish yourself during character creation."

That's a staple in most if not all RPG's.

henbayward211d ago

Not these days, it ain't! 🤣🤣

VersusDMC211d ago

This is a good get as Baldur's Gate 3 is highly regarded.

But this has to be a hire for their next game right? Why would Fable need a producer now?

BrainSyphoned211d ago

Because the current producers at Xbox are helping produce some real bangers.... I'm sure Fable is in a great state right now.

Charlieboy333211d ago

Can't wait to see what their '10 year plan' is for Fable.....just like Halo and now Forza. I'm curious to see just how badly they fuck this up with online focused, drip fed content, design and gameplay. Because I know it's going to be nothing like the previous games and anyone expecting that is in for a nasty surprise.

Popsicle210d ago

I really am hoping against hope that you are wrong, but I think you are probably right. Unfortunately

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Fable II - A Fantasy Series at Peak Performance

Fable II launched back in 2008 and remains the best the series has offered. Ahead of the series comeback, it's time to look at the classic.

Crows90310d ago

They gotta bring back those gargoyles!

Dudeson310d ago

I'd love to play it again, this time on pc though. Forever waiting on that pc port.

GaboonViper310d ago

Loved this game, oh and i always saved my dog at the end, hope the new Fable has a animal companion.

got_dam310d ago

Fable 2 was the best inthe series. Peter waaaaaaay over promised with fable 1 and it was good but disappointing. He didn't go crazy eith hype for the second game and it was surprisingly awesome. Then he ran his mouth promoting 3 and it was the worst of the 3.

cthulhucultist309d ago

Funny story: Fable 3 had a funny way of keeping the promises you made in the first half of the game and having enough money to defeat the darkness.

You only had to collect enough money to buy 2 stores in a busy market district. You then raise the prices to maximum and you turn xbox 360 internal clock 99 or more years ahead.

The next time you load the game, all the rents from the 99 years are collected immediately.

But yes I agree that 3 was the weakest of the three.

Demetrius309d ago

I only got to play it once 😩 I'm so tempted to buy a Xbox 360 slim but planning on getting the series x soon since I got a PS5 in February Im ready to get saints row 1&2 back, GTA 4, fable 2, but I also want to play infamous 1&2 again Sony screwed us over with the stream only for saints row 2 and other gems smh