Gran Turismo 7 vs Forza Motorsport 7 Comparison Video Highlights How Well Turn 10 Game Holds Up

A new video comparing Gran Turismo 7 with Forza Motorsport 7 has been shared online, showing how well Turn 10's game holds up.

[Jin_Sakai]

Forza Motorsport 8 is going to look amazing. Especially considering it’s a next gen only game.

[darthv72]

7 is such a highly polished game on the One X that to imagine what a Series only version of 8 would be is mind blowing.

[fr0sty]

Visually, GT7 is a strange one... Some tracks look jaw-dropping, others look like they came out of GT Sport, low res track textures (that seem to lack any bump mapping, etc. to help add depth) and all. It's like they filled in incomplete areas with GTSport assets.

However, when it comes to weather simulation, physics, control (the dualsense really adds a lot to this one), etc... GT7 is unmatched.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

There were alot of times there where a thought Forza looked better, but there were a few times there where I vastly prefer GT's look, other time there it was a tossup. Like the crowds, at a distance, GT's look better, close up, I think I prefer Forza's aesthetics, overall, I think I prefer Forza's visuals (although GT's Ray Tracing elements look amazing compared to Forza).

@fr0sty,

I couldn't agree more, GT7 really does look strange, sometimes it looks fantastic, and other times Forza just looks vastly better.

[z2g]

Agreed. Gt7 has been pretty awesome too so it will be interesting to compare.

[Obscure_Observer]

"Especially considering it’s a next gen only game."

Yeah. Hilarious how Xbox that would be held back by the Xbox One, will be the first platform to release a true next gen racing game in contrast with Sony´s GT7 that was promised to be a true next gen PS5 game.

If FM7 is this close to GT7 (superior in some visual and gameplay departments), I can´t even imagine how Sony´s flagship racing game will fair against the next Forza Motorsport.

[Chris12]

@henryff - Interesting you quote previous Forza scores but handily forget to post the GT scores.

GT Sport - 75
GT6 - 81

Now you look a fool.

[Chris12]

@HenryFF - a 2 point better score over a 5 year old game that looks almost as good visually.

I guess if you're desperate for a win and you can get over the stupidity of your argument then go for it. Lets hope GT7's actual competitor, FM8, doesn't score better otherwise you'll have to change your user name again to hide the shame.

[Christopher]

I mean, they're comparing PC to PS5 here. And FM8 will be on PC as well. What gen are we really talking about here since no generation is being discussed here?

[Obscure_Observer]

"What gen are we really talking about here since no generation is being discussed here?"

We´re talking about a ninth generation game vs a eighth generation game. I though that it was clear.

[IRetrouk]

Do pc games have generations🤔
Gt 7 is a cross gen game, its not gen 8 or 9, it's in between.
We are talking about a maxed pc game vs a cross gen game.

[frostypants]

They still have to target the Series S though. "Next gen only" with a caveat. If we're going to acknowledge that having to target lesser hardware holds some stuff back, that scenario is absolutely at play here. Obviously not as much as it could, but to an extent.

[metalgod88]

If only I could buy Forza 7 on my xbox series S.....

[dumahim]

Guessing the downvotes are from people not understanding that you can't purchase the game from the stores anymore since it was delisted.

[lodossrage]

can't they just buy a used physical copy from gamestop, or best buy?

[CML2]

^^
Series S is digital only.

[FyBy]

Wow thats a bummer. 8 is not even out. I read its only after 4 years because licences for cars and tracks expired. Really? Thats really strange. Its huge game to have a lifespan only 4 years and without succesor.

[darthv72]

before it was removed, I was playing it on gamepass and it was excellent on the SS. It ran as if it was one x enhanced with 60fps and everything. Thankfully I also have it on disc so I can pop it into my SX to keep playing it.

[metalgod88]

Just FYI, the Xbox Series S is digital only. I don't have a disc drive, and the game was delisted as Dumahim said.

It looks awesome, but sadly, I may never get a chance to play it.

[MadLad]

Just grab it when the series X is more available.
With the console shortage, the series s won't be dropping in value anytime soon.
Used ones basically sell for new. So you can upgrade for just a couple hundred bucks if you're diligent and look around.

[darthv72]

Id say if you really want to play it, get a cheap One X, it looks and plays great on that as you can get the disc version also for cheap. I still use a one X even though I have both Series S and X. My Series S i am going to turn into a portable unit with its own screen attached to take on trips. I love how small that system is and how it compares to the one X in terms of performance (and then some).

[Orchard]

Or it shows how dated GT7 really is. The tracks in particular are so lifeless, dated and bare.

Nostalgia is what is delivering the game good reviews.

[EvertonFC]

Yet sells 10million plus compared to motorsports 2 million.

[Orchard]

I can’t play sales numbers though, can I?

Nor does it make any difference to me since I’m not an investor in either company.

Visuals on the other hand, I experience as a player and are core to my experience.

[King Nezz]

Every time someone uses sales I just use the Toyota vs Ferrari example. Toyota always will sell more. Both are great. But we know which of the two is better.

[hamburgerhill]

Sales lol. Whatever dude!

[Imortus_san]

LOL, sure it does, GT 6 and GT Sport fiasco send regards, after beeing 19.99 in less them 6 months and beeing bundled with every possible PS for more them a year.

[RauLeCreuset]

@Orchard

You had no problem playing sales numbers and lecturing about how corporations with shareholders function when you needed an excuse to crap on PSVR2 and excuse make for why the attach rate argument you were trying to use against it didn't apply to Game Pass:

"1. How many units? They just say it sold more than the past models combined, but we don't actually have numbers to work out if that's 10 mil or 100 mil.

"2. How many of those purchases are mainstream gamers? It could be companies or people buying for other VR formats."

"PS4 has a huge install base, but only a small percentage bought a PSVR. I don't see this changing massively with PSVR2."

"Spoken like a true business expert. The idea/business plan for a business/product is to grow its base beyond those who already own the device. Shocker."

"I'm not the only one ignoring it/thinking it is a gimmick, the overwhelming majority of PS4 owners are also ignoring it and considering it a gimmick alongside me."

"PSVR did have a high price - what makes you think PSVR2 will not? As for Kinect (off-topic, bur whatever) costing the same as a video game... what video games were you buying? My 360 kinect set me back $150... and games were cheaper back then than they are today... but you make a good point - Microsoft discontinued the Kinect due to it being a failure - and it still sold 4x PSVR and in less time... but some how I'm meant to believe people are chomping at the bit to get a VR device..."

"@ApocalypseShadow Ignoring your immature comments about being a kid since I am not, nor do I resort to trying to insult during a discussion. I don't expect anything to go 'viral' overnight. But I do expect a device to sell more when its platform has 115m+ units out there. Kinect even outsold PSVR in numbers, with less Xbox 360's being in the wild than PS4's. And Kinect was a failure."

"You're once again comparing hardware to a subscription service. If you want to compare subscription services, then yes, game pass is beating the equivalent/competing service by around 10x."

"If you genuinely think selling a few million units when your TAM is 115+ million, then I'm sorry but you're out of touch with what success is for a business."

"This statement just shows you have no understanding of how corporations with shareholders function... you're probably one of these people who think the big corporations are your friend. Shareholders, and by extension, corporations, directly determine success as revenue, market share & growth. Lower than expected revenue = failure and the product is more likely to be discontinued at some point in the future if the trend continues (see Vita, Kinect, Dreamcast... etc)"

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[annoyedgamer]

I dont have either of these games so I dont have a dog in this fight but it must be pointed out that high sales numbers doesn't make a game better. By such a metric, Fortnight is the best game ever made.

[fr0sty]

"who cares if the driving physics are garbage as long as it's pretty!"

*in the same breath*

"Sales don't make a good game!"

[S2Killinit]

RauLeCreuset
You just summed up Orchard perfectly.

[lodossrage]

@Orchard,

Ok, that nostalgia argument doesn't have weight. It's not like Forza is a new thing. Forza has a bit of nostalgia going for it too.

[CML2]

Theres nothing really visually exciting about race tracks in real life. Driving on them is the thrill and GT7 nails it.

[BehindTheRows]

Driving will always be where GT beats Forza. Just so happens that GT7 also looks better than every Forza game released. Yes, Motorsport 7 (on PC, mind you) holds up nicely, but GT7 still tops it visually. Its cars are completely unmatched.

[Kraffty23]

They've shown comparison shots between real world tracks and the game and many shots are nearly indistinguishable, circuit tracks aren't meant to look like driving through a muddy overgrown swamp. What's delivering the great reviews is the fact its a great racing sim. The King is back.

[Father__Merrin]

have you an example of making a track more full of life in a sim game? explosions in background or airplanes doing overheads etc is more suited to arcade game like horizons 5

[Knushwood Butt]

GT7 has plent of aircraft, but that's not good enough for some folks.

[Knushwood Butt]

I was racing at Daytona yesterday in a race with a transition from dusk to night and thought the circuit looked amazing. Tons of detail everywhere.

Maybe you could elaborate on how it looks lifeless, dated and bare?

[bradleejones]

GT7 is completely bad ass. The cafe is a little out of place but besides that the physics are spot on. Car models are awesome. Amount of cars, tracks are awesome. I wouldn't call it dated lol it just came out a week ago and I don't see anything outdated about it besides it's GT so there is progression.and license tests which is the way it should be. Makes sure you know what you're doing and have the equipment and skill to move forward.

[ScootaKuH]

Not really. GT7 is a very good game in its own right. Nostalgia has nothing to do with it

[Rimeskeem]

Certainly hope the tracks would be lifeless.

Don't wanna hit a deer on my way to victory.

[frostypants]

The tracks look like their real life counterparts. Real life doesn't always look like a carnival. The "made up" tracks could be amped up a bit though.

[S2Killinit]

Does it though?

[lodossrage]

PS5 game vs a PC version of a game?

[yeahokwhatever]

and the ps5 game is significantly better

[MadLad]

I watched the video and I have to disagree. We're also talking about a game that came out 5 years prior.

I also need to add there was never a drastic difference in visuals between the console version of Forza 7 vs the PC version. Just difference in resolution and framerate. Being we're comparing it against a new console that is pushing high framerates and resolution, it's only fair you compare it to a machine that can do the same.
This is about the overall visual fidelity of the game. The in-game assets and effects.

The fact we're getting very comparable visuals across the board, despite GT coming out half a decade after the fact, and on an entirely new generation of console, says a lot.

[IRetrouk]

Gt sport looked better than forza 7, gt 7 looks better than sport ....

https://youtu.be/SQ6W4bVqQz...

[ProjectVulcan]

@TheRealTedCruz "Just difference in resolution and framerate [between console and PC]"

Honestly very wrong having played both extensively, on ultra settings on PC.

There was plenty difference between the PC version of Forza 7 and Xbox One or even One X. Higher texture resolution, much higher shadow quality, more and better quality particle and alpha effects. Better anti aliasing. Way better texture filtering, which on console was really low quality. There were features like the dynamic headlight shadows shown in the video that never made it into gameplay on Xbox One, particularly in the wet races where it was disabled. On PC you had not only dynamic headlight shadows on your own car, you could have it on EVERY car on the circuit. This was too performance intensive even for Xbox One X.

Then you have the much higher reflection quality on PC's ultra settings, which also was updated at gameplay framerate instead of half speed so it looked far better and smoother. That means reflections on the body of your own car, rival cars and of course the mirrors which were very noticeable. Even One X again here only having half speed.

PC version was way ahead of the console version if you had actually played both.

[MadLad]

@project

I'm a PC gamer.
I have a pretty damn high end PC, so I'm not exactly biased against PC.

I watched an uncompressed Digital Foundry video on the Xbox vs PC version of the game, and when you need to freeze frame the PC version of a racing game to see any sort of real differences between the versions, I don't care how slightly sharper the shadows are, are how there are a few extra pieces of grass on the maps, or textures are ever so slightly cleaner, that makes virtually no difference to the human eye when you're actually playing.

It's obvious the game was made for console, and then slightly tweaked for PC.

At the end of the day, my point still stands. This is a 5 year old game that arrived on a last gen console, and it's highly comparable to a game coming out on the PS5.

[ProjectVulcan]

I wrote a list of visual enhancements for PC, they are real, they existed and having PLAYED both Xbox One and PC at ultra extensively rather than just watch some videos I can say they are very noticeable enhancements indeed.

Freeze framing here to compare to another game only really emphasises to me the improvements that PC enjoyed that definitely were not on the Xbox console that the majority played FM7 on.

I think I made my points and they stand if you haven't been able to refute the technical accuracy of them. PC version was slightly better than the One X, and One X has a GPU around half the performance of PS5 in the real world and better than Series S.

So it's not a surprise there isn't some huge leap between the best PC version of FM7 at ultra which required a GPU better than One X and that gap to PS5's GPU, which at that point is not enormous.

[strifeblade]

@iretrouk
https://youtu.be/Rce2iZwiZM...

That's pretty easy isn't it.

[IRetrouk]

I gave you an honest comparison video from digital foundry, you gave me nothing so no, not really....

what's up? Is digital foundry not considered legit anymore round here🤔

You Lost me once he said it looks like a ps3 game, outta here with that bull man🤣🤦‍♂️

[ScootaKuH]

@TheRealTedCruz

I understand where you're coming from but don't forget that GT7 is built on the GT Sport engine, with a few bells and whistles for PS5. Ultimately though, it's still built on a 5 year old engine.

[yeahokwhatever]

you can disagree all you want, but F7 doesnt look remotely like GT7. It doesn't look as good as sport. GT6 even has some wins.

[ScootaKuH]

And that PS5 version is ultimately built on a last gen engine. Even the DF analysis said that although GT7 does look very impressive you can still see the old GT Sport engine under the hood. Makes sense since it's a cross gen title but I'm expecting the next GT to be built from the ground up. Though I doubt it'll be a PS5 game

[SyntheticForm]

I normally don't get involved in these, but Forza seems to look better, overall, in these comparisons.

[Kraffty23]

I normally don't either, but GT7 looks better, overall, in these comparison.

[SyntheticForm]

It's just my opinion; no need to be sarcastic and upset.

May I ask, out of the comparisons in the video, which ones you felt GT7 surpassed F7 in?

[Kraffty23]

How was my comment in any way "sarcastic" or "upset" you stated your opinion and I stated mine exactly the same as you did so if my comment shows emotion than I guess yours does too. I'm not upset at all, it seems like you want me to be upset though? Pretty much all of them.

[SyntheticForm]

I think it was the nearly verbatim response you gave, but perhaps not. Nobody wants you to be mad; in fact I wish people would stop getting so irritated over scrutiny of GT7 or racing games in general.

Pretty much all of them, huh? I mean, if you say so.

[Binarycode]

There are parts of both I like.

Textures I prefer on xbox for track, but looks worse grass etc.

Shadows from headlights on xbox cover cars and objects. GT just does cars.

Damage is a hard one because I know there are licensing problems on GT side, but Needs a full damage model.

Lighting imo GTSport wins, lighting from cars is correct and shadows and time/day is correct.

Weather, although Forza looks shinny. Tracks don't look like that when wet. They look like GT7. Also GT7 has puddles where there is water build up and it dries over time etc.

But both look great and Both are cross-gen games.

[headshotfrosty]

And one came out 5 years ago and one is a brand new system seller. Do what that what you may ;)

[derek]

@head GT7 could have been made 2 years from now, doesn't change the fact that it's a cross gen game. Designed to run on the base ps4.

[0hMyGandhi]

Both games have their merits, but making excuses for a lack of shadows is hysterical to me.

[moriarty1889]

FM7 holds up pretty well to GT7 imo.

[z2g]

I played the sh** out of Forza 7. Currently playing gt7 and loving it. Best gran turismo in years and a return to form. That being said, and this is going to be highly controversial; even tho it’s not necessarily the same type of racing game, Forza horizon 5 looks better visually than both of these games. I own all of them and am playing on ps5/series x. GT7 on the ps5 is gorgeous and a showcase game for sure but Forza horizon 5 on the series x is incredible visually. Has better rain effects too (even tho gt7 has a better more realistic rain simulation, but fh5 isn’t a sim) and FH5 has viritually no pop in whatsoever (I do see pop in on gt7 but it’s negligible). None of this means I don’t absolutely love gt7 tho for the record. We’ll see how the new Forza Motorsport reboot stacks up tho as that will be a more apples to apples comparison.

[MeatyUrologist]

Have to agree. I don't think it is that controversial. Gt has always looked great, but never went overboard with visuals. They have always been more about the feel and experience. Forza clearly put a bug focus on visuals and it shows. Although the handling is a bit more arcadey fan GT. To each their own. I enjoy both, but slightly prefer the look and gameplay of forza.

[Petebloodyonion]

It's not that hard to agree since one is more Arcady with the Daytona USA vibe graphics (huge color contrast) and the others are sims that try to nail the look of real boring life.

[babadivad]

Horizon isn't trying to be a sim.

[durran3]

Horizon is a different league and beast, these sims are generally dull and life less because track graphics really have been perfected at this point. What are they going to do, add more people on a track? Horizon on the hand gives you Mexico as your playground

[derek]

Holds up? GT7 is a cross gen game. The real test is how will GT7 look compared to Forza 8.

[ghostliving]

GT7 looks like shit.

[Imortus_san]

Forza 7 takes a dump on Gt e many cases, what happen Sony, did you not belevied in generations.

[Deathdeliverer]

This is going to be long, but intentional misinformation annoys me. He goes the extra mile to downplay PS games.

The guy that makes these videos does some sneaky and subtle things to make PS versions of games look worse in comparisons. Because there is no context to his videos, it’s a what you see is what it is type of deal. For example when he showed GT7 fps/stability, he showed the max rain, back of the full car grid setup that digital foundry had already shown days earlier. That’s was the FIRST impression he gave on his video. Sure enough the YouTube comments were all under the impression that GT7 runs like crap. Unlike digital foundry that actually says that’s the only way they could get the FPS to take a hit.
As a owner of GT7 AND Forza 7 I’ll tell you for fact, this guy has darkened up GT7 shots just enough to lose detail and make things harder to see. He’s showing the tire of the Forza car spinning mid burnout next to a still GT7 pic. Using photo mode he could have kept blur in, or removed It all together but of course he opts to just show a still next to motion. You can look at burnouts on GT7 on YouTube right now. Just like real life it accumulates so much smoke that you can’t even see the car on some of them. It’s so many off things in this comparison from the eyes of seeing it yourself on your screen it’s ridiculous. Far from the first video he does this on. Most people don’t get each console and so they go to videos like his to see comparisons. He relies on you NOT being able to compare yourself and “seeing is believing”.
Look at games that ran better for digital foundry on PS5 then look at this guys comparisons. He cherry picks and makes things look as like for like as possible unless it’s no hiding it. Don’t forget to look at his descriptions under the title. No matter WHAT the PS5 has better, the Series X is the preferred version with still, no context.
This guy has an agenda and he’s very sneaky about it.

[darthv72]

It's like I said above, I swear some of the GT7 stuff looks like it was on a base PS4 instead of a 5. I'd rather compare my own GT7 on PS5 to FM7 on SX. I'd even add in One X / Pro and Base XBO to PS4 comparisons for good measure.

[IRetrouk]

I'd watch ur comparison, gotta be better than the shit show up above lol

[yeahokwhatever]

yeah, I play F7 on my PC, maxed out and it looks nowhere near as good as GT7 on my PS5. This comparison is fake as.

[anast]

GT7 by a mile. Forza is a good arcade game though. I would spend a couple of tokens to play it.

[headshotfrosty]

Lol the pain is real

[Father__Merrin]

gt7 looks better than forza 7, will be interesting to compare forza 8

[Rdeal]

People on here need to goto specavers if they think GT7 was better looking game on this comparison, i own GT7 and Forza 7 and GT7 just looks like a up resed PS4 game, the textures are bad the rain doesn't show when in third person and where are the puddles and the shadows are terrible, the only thing i think that are done well is the car models

[Om4ever]

... and the trees

[IRetrouk]

You aint played the game if you aint seen the puddles by now, no way, no how.

[yeahokwhatever]

GT7 shows rain in third person, the drops just arent 4 inches thick and sticking to the 4th wall.

[JL2930]

I'm a Sony person, but Forza 7 is a better game. Facts.

[LordoftheCritics]

Forza M 7 was always spectacular.

From the clouds,roads to cars and every bit of detail.

Pretty surprised that Forza looks quite a bit better in first glance and in further investigation.

[Binarycode]

@strifeblade

That vid posted, Reviewusa. He doesn't review anything and doesn't play anything. He just reads the news,lol

Review Nothing USA.

[AndrenNguyen1471992]

Why don't you compare them between PS5 and Xbox Series X version?
Compare to PC is nonsense!

[Om4ever]

It's just screenshots comparaison ... The only difference you could see is about framerates. Anything else is identical to the pc version

[IRetrouk]

No its not, the pc version on ultra has plenty of features not turned on in the xbox versions.

[headshotfrosty]

Calm down lol it’s a 5 year old ultra build that is closer to apples to apples with a current PS5 with teraflops of power. Just admit that fm7 still looks great and gives current gen gt7 a run for its money.

[WheatBread]

I love the 3rd person camera angle on GT7.

[Stonilein]

Yeah its better for driving in forza the camera moves to much to drive in a straight line

[durran3]

I dont know they look the same maybe forza slightly better lol

[Rimeskeem]

You can have all the graphic fidelity you want but GT7 is known for it's driving gameplay.

[CptDville]

I’m kinda disappointed that the comparison was between PC and Ps5.

[aaronaton]

Comparing GT7 to Forza is like comparing a vintage red wine to some cheap tramp piss cider.

[headshotfrosty]

GT7 the new pibbwasser

[Donjune]

I'm shocked Forza looks just as good if not better.

[Benficaman]

maybe the best Microsoft studio.

[Azfargh]

You got to consider that PCs has higher gfx config options that goes beyond the console level... and also, GT7 still is an crossgen title (not fully builded for current gen). Compare Forza7 FROM CONSOLE to another console game.