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Digital Foundry Direct Special: Microsoft Buys Activision/Blizzard - Initial Reaction & Speculation

Digital Foundry : Huge news shaking the core of the games industry today as Microsoft seemingly out of nowhere announced their acquisition of Activision/Blizzard/King, hot on the heels of them already adding Bethesda to their Xbox family. Audi Sorlie, Alex Battaglia and John Linneman enter the war room to discuss what this could potentially mean for Microsoft and the video game industry itself.

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Magog828d ago

If Microsoft has their way and every game is streamed from their cloud servers DF isn't going to have much to evaluate.

TheExecutioner828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

you meant soon DF will be jobless ??

Obscure_Observer828d ago

"If Microsoft has their way and every game is streamed from their cloud servers DF isn't going to have much to evaluate."

PC and console gaming aren´t going anywhere as far MS is concerned.

Tacoboto828d ago

Except DF just made a video comparing GeForce Now 3080 to the other streaming services and a local Series X.

The Series X wasn't always the most responsive either, surprise surprise

darkrider828d ago

Well, df will soon be out of a job.... Nothing to compare that anyone cares...

Christopher828d ago

I don't get this logic. They analyze games. Do people think they won't have games to analyze anymore?

darkrider828d ago

Don't you? they will compare the s version and the X version. Done. And they will copy paste the analysis. the s version is great for such cheap console and the X is setting standard against well noyhing else...

Christopher828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

@darkrider: they already analyze exclusive games as it is.

See https://www.eurogamer.net/a...

And rarely are the analysis of a game the same from one to the next. Different games prioritize different things.

gamingtext2020828d ago

Audi explained it perfectly, it’s going to be damn near impossible or incredibly hard for all of these studios to flourish under one platform.

Father__Merrin828d ago

Most people don't even realise non of this will mean anything untill 2023

gold_drake828d ago

we're in 2022
what are you even talking about.

onisama828d ago

What i don't understand in this comments section... Is why they support PS when they rubbed from us xbox gamers lot of 3rd party games.... Like ffvii remKe demon souls deathloop and lot lot of 3rd party Japanese games... Then cry when xbox started buying hole companies that make games... I just can't understand... I wont care if they were made from ps studios or funded by them but they did the same now they pay

Deathdeliverer828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Are you really comparing timed exclusivity deals to buying companies? On top of that Sony MADE Demon Souls. You are wayyy out of the loop.
A lot of people don’t realize square was going under when Sony bought almost half the companies shares to save them. Then once square got back on its feet Sony sold the shares back to them.

onisama828d ago

What about ffvii remake and end walker and persona i bought a ps4 for that game.... And many jrpgs deals and yes timed exclusives isn't fine too!!... Sony just do whatever they can on their budget to steal games and xbox doing the same is fair enough

sinspirit828d ago

Demons Souls has been owned by Sony for over 10 years. It was never a 3rd party title. It was developed by a 3rd party(From Software) with assistance from Sony Japan studios.

Thing is, timed exclusivity is one thing, it does suck. Third party exclusives generally sucks, but I will say when it's a great collaboration rather than just blocking it from another platform that I will be excited about it(like Insomniac with Spiderman pre-acquisition).

It's wierd how to people that think that it's the same when one is a much grander scale than the other. It's not a simple yes or no. There is an in between to analyze each situation, each bought studio or paid for exclusive. Do they have a real and long standing relationship with the studio or did they just buy a developer who happened to release games on their platform? Was a paid for third party exclusive chosen for a reason other than keeping content off of other platforms? Because, in the case of both the Bethesda and Activision/Blizzard buy outs. It is 100% about obtaining all these properties and resources for themselves and nothing to do with being exciting partners with great relationships aside from making money together. Sony and Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Media Molecule, Housemarque, and pretty much all their devs had friendships with Sony and not simply just business agreements. Like, if Nintendo bought Rare, we all saw it coming but it didn't happen. That kind of long-standing relationship where they just worked so well together. Whereas MS and these companies? What's the real point?

MadLad828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Because it's N4G.

Many of the same people currently yelling in the comments, saying this isn't fair and will break the games industry would be cheering if Sony had done it and it would have been a great move for gamers because now the games can flourish and whatnot.

It's just how things go around here.

onisama828d ago

True i noticed long ago... Even the website color is blue fit how ps fanboys are in control in This site

Crows90828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

You guys said the same when they bought their first line of studios. You said the same thing when they bough zenimax and youre still saying the same thing now that they bought activision blizzard.

You can hypothesize all you want but youre dead wrong.

What has sony done recently that is even remotely similar? Have they purchased a single predominantly 3rd party developer recently? Ever? No.

If sony goes and buys capcom or from software I would still be saying the same. Bad for gamers. Consolidation is bad for this industry. I thought the same thing way back when activision bought blizzard.

But yeah we do know that games flourish under sony...and historically die and wither under microsoft but that may change...still waiting for those new successful IP.

MadLad828d ago

@crows

Do you know how many times I've seen people on this site say they want Sony to buy Konami? Kojima Productions? Square Enix? Capcom? Let alone smaller entities?

It's just a bunch of hypocrisy had on this site. People would be crying tears of joy here were it a Sony acquisition.

Sony might not want it, but Playstation consumers do. The same ones demonizing MS for actually doing it.

RauLeCreuset828d ago

"Do you know how many times I've seen people on this site say they want Sony to buy Konami? Kojima Productions? Square Enix? Capcom?"

That's your reasoning? You wouldn't troll, so I'm sure you'll follow up with evidence linking "many of the same people currently yelling in the comments, saying this isn't fair and will break the games industry" to past comments of the type described by the above quote? We'll even give you a pass on including those Kojima Production comments, despite that studio's history of working with PS, including the one IP they made since departing Konami.

MadLad828d ago

@Raul

There's always a reason to be had for the situation being "different" when trying to justify hypocrisy.

Crows90828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Okay now you're making no sense.

You claim Sony fans keep wanting Sony to buy devs. I haven't seen that at all. I've seen specualtion due to recent Microsoft trends that Sony may buy those studios but never that we want them to.

Also what does it matter if there's some isolated individuals who want that. The question is whether Sony wants it. And that's my problem with all this. Sony may act on buying studios simply because MS is on a Purchasing spree of to multiplatform IP.

Besides if you act on something a certain way simply because another group are hypocrites then that means you have weak character easily influenced by the stupidity of some.

However...the groups of people that seem to support this and are happy about it on the Xbox side is very very numerous. And that's concerning coming from the group of gamers claiming everyone should have access to all games.

I'd personally be like wtf if Sony had this acquisition...wouldn't see the point at all and it would subtract from gamers who would otherwise have access. However if Sony were to buy from software...at the very least it was Sony who spearheaded their venture in the souls genre...doesn't make it goo though since Sony should only pay them to make an exclusive game similar to Bloodborne. Gamers lose overall if they bought the studio.

But I see you like to claim hypocrisy and use that as your excuse to attack those that don't like these acquisitions. And yet the real hypocrite would be you since I've definitely seen you say games should be accessible to all.

RauLeCreuset827d ago

@Ted

"There's always a reason to be had for the situation being 'different' when trying to justify hypocrisy."

I told you we'll include the Kojima Productions comments. All you had to do was produce evidence to establish your claim that "many of the same people currently yelling in the comments, saying this isn't fair and will break the games industry" said "they want Sony to buy Konami? Kojima Productions? Square Enix? Capcom?."

You alleged across two separate posts that "many of the same people currently yelling in the comments" and "the same ones demonizing MS for actually doing it" are the ones who wanted Sony to do that. Your answer when called out for hypothesizing was, "Do you know how many times I've seen people on this site say they want Sony to buy Konami?" Your failure to follow up with evidence linking the comments you said were made to the people you're accusing is what would be expected from someone who is lying to cover up their trolling.

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Crows90828d ago

Sony made demons souls. The rest are timed exclusives and you can thank Tomb Raider devs for that one. It used to be only timed dlc in modern times until mcirosoft bought 1 year game exclusivity which didnt pay off at all. The opened the can of worms and playstation responded in kind. Not saying I like it...cuz i dont.

onisama828d ago

Timed? So where is my ffvii amd persona 5? Or all the jrpgs they where buying??? Well i guess microsoft respoundedfor those questions too

P_Bomb828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Xbox had third party deals too. From Splinter Cell Conviction and Dead Rising 3 to individual character DLC in Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

“Even the website color is blue fit how ps fanboys are in control in This site”

I really don’t know why ppl act like they’re forced to be here.

stonecold3828d ago

your not getting ff 7 remake on xbox because square havent metoined of a xbox port and im glad t isnt coming same go for ff16 forspoken

onisama828d ago

I played it on pc don't worry without paying for it... Because they don't deserve my money with how they do business

RauLeCreuset828d ago

"I wont care if they were made from ps studios or funded by them but they did the same now they pay"

Is that your super villain origin story? You have an interesting recollection of history. You conveniently omitted Xbox doing a lot of rubbing of its own.

SE did a timed exclusive deal with Xbox for Tomb Raider before it did one for FF7R with PS. Capcom did an exclusive deal with Xbox for Dead Rising 3 before it did a deal with PS for SFV.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto1d 16h ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger881d 10h ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb198121h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein19h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 13h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188122h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio21h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7717h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7210h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19925h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218323h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga22h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan18h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit11h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2317h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7217h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier5h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple1011d 3h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-16h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 1h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 1h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic23h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead16h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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An Update on This Year’s BlizzCon and Blizzard’s 2024 Live Events

Blizzard writes: "After careful consideration over the last year, we at Blizzard have made the decision not to hold BlizzCon in 2024. This decision was not made lightly as BlizzCon remains a very special event for all of us, and we know many of you look forward to it. While we’re approaching this year differently and as we have explored different event formats in the past, rest assured that we are just as excited as ever to bring BlizzCon back in future years."

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PRIMORDUS1d 11h ago

How about you not hold Blizzcon anymore period. You fucking POS company. I really hope Blizzard would just die.