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Naughty Dog and Their Imperfections

From its humble beginnings as Jam Software in 1984 to its current status as one of Sony’s best first-party studios, Naughty Dog has released dozens of games varying in quality. The Naughty Dog of today didn’t begin taking shape until the PlayStation 3 era. The Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter franchises stand the test of time, but they don’t reflect the studio’s current values.

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roadkillers1540d ago

There's arguments to be made, especially with Nintendo... I had so much fun with the Uncharted series especially playing Uncharted 4 on Active Duty. Definitely want his job whether it is a treasure hunter or scuba diver.

I'm the minority here, but I remember very little from Last of Us single player besides the cutscene videos. The multiplayer on the other hand was incredibly fun and possibly the best behind CoD MW PS3.

Jak continued to get better as the series went on. Jak 3 was so much fun being my GTA alternative.Along with that, Crash was part of my adolescence.

Every PS game they've made has left a long appeal. Oh... Daxter was the only must have PSP game until GTALCS came out.

LMosche1539d ago (Edited 1539d ago )

Jak 2 and 3 are the worst platformers Ive ever played with barely any music and the little it has being repetitive and boring and like four generic weapons. Ratchet & Clank didn't spoil me, Jak was just garbage. Even the platforming was meh.

AspiringProGenji1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

“ Consumers can always expect them to churn out technical marvels with excellent writing, but they aren’t the end-all-be-all the industry has made them out to be.”

As opposed to what or who? Every studio will always have their weakness, but ND is one of those devs where the overall quality will make up for their weakness. I much enjoyed U3 despite its linearity. U4 was awesome despite a few chapters feeling it dragged the game a bit which slowed the pace.

A few imperfections shouldn’t affect the reputation they have built for themselves in the industry. I much prefer the Naughty Dog of today than the past

Darkwatchman1540d ago

the Jak and Daxter games will always be good. Crash 2 and 3 will always be good. Uncharted 1 already feels dated with its antiquated shooting and rough design that lead to strong critical reception at time of release because it had strong writing and was such a technical next gen powerhouse in 2007. The Naughty Dog of today relies more on flawed core games propped up by their technical achievements than past games which were equally well designed and technically impressive games.

Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us are some of the best games of all time, but they are outliers. Uncharted 1, 3, and 4 will not stand the test of time 10-15 years from now in the same way the Jak and Daxter trilogy and Crash 2 and 3 have because of this pursuit for technical perfection being the core focus.

AspiringProGenji1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

So you left out Crash 1 and picked on U1 as if both games weren’t flawed and also the start of something great... Uncharted 3 may not stand the test of times because of U4 and Lost legacy, but it is still a fun game to play. U4 I am sure it will always be fun to play to and go through. It is a great game. Naughty Dog put a lot of detail and strive to deliver a quality experience with their games and that is something that should be applauded, not put against them. If they have the resources, time, and passion to deliver a technical marvel, then they damn well should. The technology is already here for them to achieve things they couldn’t before.

lifeisgamesok1540d ago

I'll always remember Uncharted 4 and TLOU they are 2 of the greatest games I've ever experienced

I have a good feeling TLOU Part II will be the same

RazzerRedux1540d ago

"Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us are undeniable classics, but that’s two out of five games under Naughty Dog’s modern portfolio. Their monolithic reputation doesn’t match their output. "

I've read these silly arguments before. Here is the logic: ND made two of the best games of all time, but since their other games are not considered to be among the best games of all time, ND is overrated.

That's just poorly thought out. It is like discounting Scorsese as a director because most of his movies aren't as renown as Goodfellas and Raging Bull. It is just silly. And your premise that NDs strengths are only writing and tech prowess is simply incorrect. There is some damn good gameplay in these games and you are wrong to discount them.

Finally, there have been 6 ND games since the first Uncharted. 5 Uncharted games (including Lost Legacy) and The Last of Us. Any game developer would kill to have that portfolio and does in fact back up NDs lofty reputation.

I think this article was written not to be right, but to be controversial and get clicks. Congrats on that.

Silly gameAr1540d ago

Let me sum this article up

"stop thinking Naughty Dog are the best in the industry because I said so".

Saved everyone a bunch of reading.

Darkwatchman1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

This is the problem with N4G. People read headlines and skim the articles without taking the time to FULLY absorb its contents. I state within the article that Naughty Dog is a high quality team that you can always count on to deliver strong writing and technology and animation that pushes the hardware of its era. They are the kings of polish. Nobody in gaming provides such polished video games.

What the article is doing is examining the very deep flaws inherent to Uncharted 1, 3, and 4 that critical discourse tends to gloss over because the studio's pursuit of "technical prowess/perfection" and "cinematic" direction tends to make people forgive glaring design issues that other games would be judged more critically for. The article is actually a balanced and fair assessment of Naughty Dog's 3 most flawed games, which I admit also are all very good games in their own rights, but brings to light things the mainstream discourse tends to dismiss.

It's a studio whose reputation doesn't match their output. Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us deserve the reputations they have, but the rest of their modern games, Uncharted 1, 3, and 4 are flawed enough that the messiah-like status bestowed upon Naughty Dog seems a little inflated when you take a step back to think about their games more critically.

This kind of reductive comment belittles the amount of time and effort people put into articles like this. I welcome differing opinions that are reasonably well argued. Hell, I'm a FAN of hour long video essays of games whose overall conclusion I disagree with, but I enjoyed the content because it was an intelligently delivered critical dissection whose arguments I could understand even if I didn't agree with them.

AspiringProGenji1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

“ What the article is doing is examining the very deep flaws inherent to Uncharted 1, 3, and 4 that critical discourse tends to gloss over because the studio's pursuit of "technical prowess/perfection" and "cinematic" direction tends to make people forgive glaring design issues that other games would be judged more critically for.”

But it is okay to ignore W3’s flawed combat because of the story and the open world, or RDR2 issues because it’s Rockstar... It’s as if every game and dev have their issues and people don’t Care when the overall experience is great

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bluefox7551540d ago

There's rarely anything to "full absorb" posted on N4G, people don't usually read the articles because most of the articles are trash clickbait blogs, written by failed journalist hipsters trying to make it in games journalism instead.

OB1Biker1540d ago

Imagine Uncharted 1, 3, and 4 being the most flawed games for a studio....
🙄
The discussion about other studios being great is fine. The argument to downplay one is flawed.

Silly gameAr1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

The article itself belittles the article. Sorry if my interpretation of this article offended you, and that you actually thought this was a well written, "intelligently delivered" article. To me it just read like "I'm going to find reasons for people to stop thinking Naughty Dog is top tier, and try to bring them down a level or two."

RazzerRedux1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

"The article is actually a balanced and fair assessment of Naughty Dog's 3 most flawed games, which I admit also are all very good games in their own rights, but brings to light things the mainstream discourse tends to dismiss."

So ND games, in your opinion, range from "very good" to among "the best ever". And so ND is overrated? NDs "flaws" are better than the vast majority of other devs strengths.

" I enjoyed the content because it was an intelligently delivered critical dissection"

This article isn't that though.

And this nonsense about "cults" when referring to ND fans who some regard them with "messiah" status is over the top hyperbole. You've described everyone who disagrees with you about ND as some kind of obsessed fanatic.

"This is the problem with N4G. "

No, this is the problem with articles on n4g posing as "journalism".

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Rimeskeem1540d ago

Journalism and it's imperfections.

According to this article someone who made mistakes 20+ years ago should always be remembered for it and can't possibly be redeemed.

Darkwatchman1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

...uh what? If you read the article, I argue it’s their older games. The crash games (not the first one) and the entire trilogy that remain good to this day all these years later but it’s their more recent games that aren’t more inconsistent so how does your comment about “making mistakes 20+ years ago” fit in to anything...they make more mistakes now than they ever did.
Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us at their 2 truly amazing modern games. The rest are all definitely also good, but deeply flawed in a way that doesn’t get discussed enough when Naughty Dog is brought up in discourse.

Rimeskeem1540d ago (Edited 1540d ago )

They aren't deeply flawed, just because they arent as good doesn't mean they are deeply flawed. No one talks about it because it's not something that can be talked about unless you are trying to make some dumb clickbait shit.

Stating the imperfections of a studio who has won hundreds of GOTY awards from countless sites is the epitome of attention seeking. Where is your article for Rockstar imperfections or other studios who have countless praise if though their newest game has obvious flaws in movement and mechanics?

This piece just seems like you have been trying to find flaws in a studio that has been gifted 100s of awarded.

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generic-user-name1540d ago

I'd ask what makes them "deeply" flawed rather than simply flawed?

PhoenixUp1540d ago

It’s easier for me to go through the Crash Bandicoot and Jak & Daxter games than it is to replay Uncharted & The Last of Us. I love replaying those other entries, but sometimes it takes too long for me to get to my favorite parts in those titles than in the previous titles.

One thing I find hilarious is Naughty Dog’s tradition of always having a chase scene with the player character running away from the screen from a big instakill threat in almost all of their games under Sony.

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Steam’s Refund Policy Change Won’t Affect You Unless You’re A Lowlife

Steam is changing its refund policy, but you probably won’t be affected

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thorstein6h ago

Should have happened a long time ago. People wanting refunds after 50 hours in game.

fsfsxii2h ago

Pc gamers will take this as an excuse to pirate things

KyRo2h ago

I'm not sure why you're getting disgrees. Whilst not all PC gamers are petty, an awful lot of them are lol

Crows902h ago

Entirely untrue. Not any more petty than console gamers. The only large difference is console gamers don't have much of a choice.

qalpha2h ago

Daily reminder that 'TheGamer' is a corporate-generated, anti-gamer, anti-consumer, clickbait web site. They are mostly A.I. generated articles that villainize gamers. They provide nothing positive and actively try to provoke and divide the community through extreme view points and politics. Do not give them any clicks.

Inverno2h ago

Only scumbags? As if people don't play their games on console put in the most amount of hours and return it to GameStop and trade it in for another game. But also how many people are actually do this? And what games have been allowed to be refunded?

DustMan2h ago

You can refund any game you've purchased as long as it hasn't been longer than two weeks, and you've played less than 2 hours. I wish they would change it to 3 hours because some RPG's have so much exposition that you may only get an hour total of complete gameplay. That's my only knock on it. I've refunded plenty of stuff I was just curious to try. I typically stay away from Early Access titles which are the only ones affected by this policy change.

Inverno1h ago

Apparently early access doesn't count, only complete games with a play early preorder bonus.

Gaming4Life19812h ago

I definitely know if I want a refund in 2 hours.

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Media Molecule’s Next Game is Going to be a New IP

A job listing published by the UK studio reveals that its next project will be another entirely new IP.

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Inverno22h ago

The only PlayStation dev I care about tbh.

Inverno2h ago

Dayum did I hit a nerve. Sorry for not liking most of this gens games coming from PS, not really doe.

Cacabunga22h ago

Hopefully doesn’t take them a complete gen to release it

TheColbertinator16h ago

Good. Something not boring, not one of those "make your own game" crap and also on Steam would be nice.

Stopac14h ago

I too like to look for things in the wrong places.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto2d ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger881d 19h ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb19811d 6h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein1d 4h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.