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Next-Gen Console Watch: PS5 and Xbox Series X News, Leaks, Analysis

Welcome to Next-Gen Console Watch 2020, your one stop shop for everything Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5. This week we talk framerate vs. resolution, leaked Xbox Series X photos, a GDC Next-Gen Developer Poll, what the new PS4 Back Button might say about PS5, and our feature topic: Will Backward Compatibility Affect When You Upgrade to Next-Gen?

darthv721547d ago

Only 18% of devs are working on next gen games....? That seems really low. But maybe it lends some credibility to the notion that real next gen games dont show up until after the first year or two of a systems release.

LOGICWINS1547d ago

The PS3 didn’t really hit its stride until 2009 when Killzone 2 (one of my favorite games of all time) and Uncharted 2 came out.

I think Sony will attempt to buck this trend though. Spiderman 2 will be out by next year.

As far as the 18% figure.... realize that most devs aren’t creating AAA games. Most devs are better off developing for current gen since thats where the money is.

nirwanda1546d ago

Most devs are making mobile phone games, small teams with a quick turnaround and low costs.

1Victor1546d ago

@The PS3 didn’t really hit its stride until 2009 when Killzone 2 (one of my favorite games of all time) and Uncharted 2 came out.”
Really because I and a lot of people remember a little game called Warhawk that was exclusive day one and have a huge community that was playing it for years after it was released and even after the sequel Starhawk was released so please stop commenting like you for a fact or you was playing PlayStation 3 games

LOGICWINS1546d ago

@1Victor Did I offend you?

1Victor1545d ago

No no offense it’s just that you was talking like a PS expert and it’s clearly by your comments history that you are far from it and will say anything to make your point look truthful even using lies like this
“The PS3 didn’t really hit its stride until 2009 when Killzone 2 (one of my favorite games of all time) and Uncharted 2 came out“

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Obscure_Observer1547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

@darthv72

"Only 18% of devs are working on next gen games....? That seems really low. But maybe it lends some credibility to the notion that real next gen games dont show up until after the first year or two of a systems release."

Exactly! I rather wait one year or so to play true next gen games rather than be mislead into buying a current gen games "dressed" as a true next gen games only playable on next gen system.

If Sony´s "PS5 Only" marketing is anything to go by, I´m expecting PS5´s launch games lineup to blow up all SX´s "current gen games" launch lineup out of water.

The truth will be revealed soon. ;)

MasterCornholio1547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

"Exactly! I rather wait one year or so to play true next gen games rather than be mislead into buying a current gen games "dressed" as a true next gen games only playable on next gen system."

Who says true next gen games can't be available at launch or even close to launch?

https://secure.i.telegraph....
https://assets.vg247.com/cu...

https://c5.staticflickr.com...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_nB...

LOGICWINS1547d ago

@MasterCornholio Shadowfall looked pretty...but it was a mediocre game that was obviously rushed. This coming from a HUGE Killzone fan. Infamous Second Son on the other hand was excellent! To this day the facial animations in that game impress me.

If Im dropping $499 for a PS5 at launch, I want Horizon 2 with little to no load times and photo realistic graphics. Sony typically has abysmal launch lineups but I’ve always bought Playstations at launch regardless because I know the games will come later. Going forward, they need to earn my money at launch. SHOW me on DAY ONE what the PS5 can do!

Obscure_Observer1547d ago

@MasterCornholio

"Who says true next gen games can't be available at launch or even close to launch?"

Nobody said it can´t. It always has been done since forever. What I´m questioning is: Will be the diference between PS5 and SX´s first party launch games lineup night and day as the examples you posted showing the generationl leap between PS3 and PS4 games?

According to some people:

SX´s first party launch games will be like:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_nB...

PS5´s first party launch games will be like:
https://c5.staticflickr.com...

Like I said, truth will be revealed soon enough. ;)

MasterCornholio1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

@Logic

"Shadowfall looked pretty."

That was my point. It is possible to have games at launch that look alot better than previous gen games. But I do understand that overtime developers will maximize the visuals in their games and they will look alot better towards the end of a generation than the beginning. A good example of this are games like Gears 5 and God of War compared to launch titles for the PS4 and the Xbox One.

I'm expecting to see next gen looking games at launch or during the launch window of these systems. It would be stupid for any console manufacturer not to provide next gen looking games at the launch of a console. You really need some really pretty games at launch to show people how much more powerful the new systems are.

This is something that has happened at the beginning of each generation so I expect the same with the new generation of consoles.

MasterCornholio1546d ago

@Obscure

"According to some people:"

Well that's according to you because you believe that Infamous is a title on Xbox. If you didn't know Infamous is a franchise produced by Suckerpunch which is a developer that's owned by Sony.

Anyways like I said to LogicWins there will be launch titles that will look next gen when compared to games from the previous generation. Which is why I was comparing Infamous and Killzone to previous titles because they were launch window games.

Oh and next time do your research. It really isn't that difficult to do.

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rainslacker1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

I think map sizes were probably the big change in generations from PS3->PS4. The limited memory on the prior gen made it so concessions would have to be made to how the maps were handled, as opposed to being more fluid like you saw in earlier games of the generation, and throughout. Other things like particle effects, or how many objects on screen were a good jump, but the core game design involving game play was probably possible on last gen consoles. I'd say that's fairly true for a good portion of games this gen, just there was more complexity to design as time went on.

I'm not sure memory would be such an issue for next gen games in terms of map size. So, I think the big changes we'll see early are going to be games which take advantage of the new ways to handle memory through SSD. Of course, graphics will improve, but that's a given.

Getting hung up on the pedantic, "What could possibly come early in the gen" seems rather moot until you have something to discuss about if it's something that can only be done on next gen. I feel with the current climate, chances are, Sony is going to explain what these games are doing that makes it so they can't run on next gen. At that point, then it's probably OK to discuss if that's true, or if Sony is just making something up.

Obscure_Observer1546d ago

@MasterCornholio

Lol. I don´t need to do any research. I was talking about the difference some people are expecting to see between SX and PS5, and used your Infamous images from PS3 and PS4 only to highligh those differences.

There´s a clear generational leap between Infamous 2 and Second Son. And generational leap is what some people are expecting from PS5 launch games compared to SX launch games.

Got it?

1Victor1546d ago

@logic and all the other half score Xbox fans I have a question why do you want Sony to show you what they got day one you aren’t going to buy a PS5 shouldn’t you be asking Microsoft to show you a reason to buy their new system day one instead of making excuses about true next gen start a year or two after the system release

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Mithan1546d ago

Most games will be cross-generation to start with, probably for a couple years anyways and with 3rd party developers. The PS4 has an installed base of 100 million or so now, with another 50 million or so on the Xbox, it isn't like they are going to abandon that huge user base, especially with how expensive it is to make new games these days.

xX-oldboy-Xx1546d ago

You're correct - cross gen games are the domain of 3rd party devs - NOT - console manufacturers. They have to give a legitimate reason to upgrade.

If HALO was a series x exclusive and turns out to be an amazing game - you've got yourself sold out console everywhere.

This is a no brainer.

Mithan1544d ago

Halo isn't relevant anymore as a system seller. Those days are gone.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 11h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle22h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188119h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio19h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7714h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga21h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv728h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19923h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218321h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga20h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan15h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit8h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2314h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7214h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier3h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple1011d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-13h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac23h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10122h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic21h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead14h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

PSLS writes: I have traveled across the country using the Razer Kishi Ultra in airports and hotels for both PlayStation Remote Play and mobile gaming in general, and I am thoroughly impressed.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 20h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d 7h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 17h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 16h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 16h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 13h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 15h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 15h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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