What Do PlayStation Plus' Changes Mean For Next-Gen?

Removing PS3 and Vita games may seem like a negative for PlayStation Plus, but could it spell something bigger on the horizon? IGN's PlayStation show discusses!

[Double_O_Revan]

I applaud them for supporting those systems for so long, but I wish they had dropped the PS+ PS3 & Vita games sooner, so they could focus on getting bigger and better games for PS4.

But that also means it'll be the same deal when PS5 rolls around. Lots of Indies asst first.

[Sam Fisher]

Agreed, i believe that they should expand psn to pc. Close the gaps between pc and console and unite

[Imortus_san]

PS NOW is already on PC, at least in a small number of countrys.

[ILostMyMind]

@Imortus_san
I don't know when and this was said many times, but one day the consoles will die. Microsoft is getting ready for it and Sony should be on it as well. I agree that Sony should make all PS4 games and beyond run on a PSN version for PC. Maybe not now, but Sony should be ready when the time comes.

[milohighclub]

Nah ps5 will have a backlog of ps4 games for the first two years then ps5 will start to come.

[anonymousfan]

With backwards compatibility finally present on PS5 at least we might expect some AAA PS4 games even when the PS5 releases

[Muzikguy]

I'm glad they supported the systems for as long as they did as well, but I'm not expecting bigger and better current gen games with the subscription. It's supposed to be for online play and I'd rather it go for that. I have enough games to play without getting Plus games. Probably why I haven't had a sub in years

[RauLeCreuset]

"It's supposed to be for online play and I'd rather it go for that."

Bunk that. I'm a Day 1 sub. From where I sit, it's for the free games and discounts. That online bit is something they added when PS4 dropped that, while I objected to it, did not really affect me as someone already subscribing. I'm very much for maintaining the narrative that Plus is for those things I signed up for and not interested, from a consumer perspective, of ceding that narrative to the notion that it's about paying for online play.

[IamTylerDurden1]

PS+ games HAVE been getting bigger and better though. Ever since the price increase we've been getting bigger games on PS+. The past year plus has been impressive actually. I recall it starting with games like MGSV, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Rime, Darksiders 2 Deathinitive, Bloodborne, R&C, and now Steep, OnRush, For Honor, Hitman 2, MGS4 ect.

It sucks that PS3/Vita games were dumped but it's clearly in preparation for PS5 this November. I assume by holiday of this year the lineup is..

2 - PS5 games
2 - PS4 games
1 - PSVR game

[S2Killinit]

I agree. I think they will now be able to focus on higher quality. I cant wait for PS5 arrival.

[Omegasyde]

Nah first two years will probably be cross platform games.

Less money that Sony has to deal out to publishers.

[gamer7804]

but thats not what they are doing now, they are just dropping games and replacing it with no extra games...

[ocelot07]

Well if the rumours are true about the ps5 having BC with PS4 and possibly PS3 (I doubt it will be BC for PS3). Then come the release of the ps5 not only will ps5 owners have access to ps5 monthly games. But a backlog of PS4 games they have collected due to PS4 and possibly PS3 titles.

[gangsta_red]

Hopefully PS5 will be bc with PS3 as well as PS2 and PS.

This way for next gen Sony can offer a wide range of free games for PS+, just like GWG does with Xbox One, 360 and the OG Xbox.

[remixx116]

This is actually a good idea and while I gear it's far fetched I'm praying it happens.

Need to be able to play klonoa 2 luteana's veil and SSX tricky again

[crazyCoconuts]

I don't think PS Plus is going to reinstitute free monthly PS3 games at this point, even if they engineered a way to play them BC. I suspect they'll offer free VR games to motivate people into getting VR.

[gangsta_red]

Maybe they can do 4 games a month. They offered 2 on each system maybe before. This time maybe a PS5 game, a PS4 game, one VR game and then some retro game that can be from any past system before PS4.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Sony has always offered 2 games per platform. Clearly when PS5 hits the plan will be 2 PS5 games, 2 PS4 games, and probably 1 PSVR game due to the fact that VR is such a new platform still building its ecosystem. Once VR is adopted by the casual consumer and it grows into itself we will see 2 PSVR games per month and a proper 6 total PS+ games. The 2 games per month will be a limited deal until PS5 hits this November. I'm sure the games will be high quality until then, if this month was any clue. But who know? This is my best guess, i'm sure you will bring up this post in a few years if i'm wrong.

[IamTylerDurden1]

I like it, smart positioning. Years of bagging on PS4 for not having BC, now, the writing is on the wall that the PS5 will have day 1 BC but of course that isn't good enough. No, you must rag on PS5 for potentially not having PS3 BC (emulation really) because it isn't in your nature to ever give the PlayStation brand any shine. And in the event that you do say something "positive" about the brand it's truly just a thinly veiled attempt to point out a greater flaw. Beautiful work, i see the template for all of next gen "but PS5 doesn't have PS3 BC and Next Box 2 has 360 BC (emulation)".

We would love to have everything in life, but it isn't real. PS3 made a bold choice in going for the exotic and proprietary CELL processor for the PS3, it had many bad consequences that Sony is still paying for, but it also had some wonderful benefits. It made the PS3 difficult to work with but also allowed unforseen beauty like TLoU. The overwhelming success of the PS4 and Sony's effort to ask developers what they want is largely thanks to the PS3. The top-seat position that the PlayStation brand currently holds is thanks to decisions they made years ago. Sure, it made PS3 BC unlikely, but I personally love where PlayStation is at atm and i wouldn't trade PS3 BC for it.

[Bleucrunch]

I think SONY screwed up the VIta man, as that console was the shit and they should have supported it more....Talk about dropping the ball man. Damn shame too because their ideas about the Vita is what the switch is now....DAMN SONY you let another competitor steal your idea....

[crazyCoconuts]

Sad day when I sold my Vitas. I was just reminding my kids how much better the online was compared to their Switches. I'd love for Sony/MS to take a crack at handhelds but I'm not holding my breath.

[crazyCoconuts]

@Bluecrunch, BTW, if you're ok with PC gaming you may want to check out the GPD Win2. It's a little clamshell PC with a built in gamepad. I've fallen in love with mine and play all kinds of games on it, and since it's just a PC, you get all the cross-play / cross buy stuff we got with Vita but even better. It's a niche kinda thing right now, but so good.

[ILostMyMind]

Vita will be known as The Best Handheld Never Made.

[Bleucrunch]

THAT is a perfect summation of the life of the Vita.

[SegaSaturn669]

I expect a ps5 game in march. So should you. I don't care if the console isn't released, I'll get it in due time.

[trouble_bubble]

Add more games or services, or drop the price. Just saying. We know they won’t drop the price, but GWG charges around the same and isn’t dropping anything last I heard. Could start another flame war.

[StormSnooper]

Sites that calculate the annual value of both plans show that you get more with PS+. Although this change is new so it’s not reflected. It all comes down to the value in the end and I suspect this is not the last time we get changes. I’m pretty sure they are preparing for next gen. Possibly PSVR games will be added to the service.

[StormLegend]

They'll just support the PS5, PS4 and PSVR

[StormSnooper]

That would be great.

[PhoenixUp]

Give us 6 PS4 games a month going forward

[BizarroUltraman]

This is great news for me anyway. I always said to take full advantage of PS+ you needed every damn Playstation device. Anyway man we could be getting PSVR games for free instead. Maybe

[Orionsangel]

I can't afford VR and it's not on my radar. So no I don't want free VR games for Plus. The VR ownership numbers are so low anyway.

[ocelot07]

It would be a good move by Sony. Add a VR game each month which will keep current VR owners happy. Plus it might give PSVR a potential sale boost. As for people like your self (not being negative here) it will simply be the case of "can't please everyone"

Same for people like me who own a PSVR who will be a little disappointed if they don't add PSVR to PS+ from March onwards. It will just be a case of "can't please everyone".

[Father__Merrin]

I'd prefer game time sub over direct monthly sub. Many evenings I've no time to play

[Kashima]

I don't need PS Plus since ffxiv is the only online game i play

[Pantz]

My guess is they will be shutting down the PS3/Vita store like what happened with the Wii store. They don't seem to want you playing older games.

[gamer7804]

consumers get nothing good out of this save for some features we should get anyways, then no plans to replace the games with anything. There are tons of Japanese vita games they could have given away instead of the Indies...

[IamTylerDurden1]

It means PS5 this holiday. Clearly. The 10gb cloud storage going to 100gb is the biggest sign to me. We need all that space for those massive, exotic next gen games. That's my guess.